Marantz's Stereo 70s is a FABULOUS €1000 amplifier
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7:16 Sound quality comparisons
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I bought the Marantz Stereo 70s last week,
paired it with Emotiva basx a2 amplifier, Sonus Faber Lumina 2 speakers and Rel Sub T-Zero. Amazing sound... enjoying every second of it.
Very musical speakers & subwoofer 👍
Thanks for reviewing this! I got the Marantz Cinema 70s when it arrived in New York a year ago. I would have gotten the Stereo 70s had I known it was coming, as I only run a 2-channel setup in my media room. But I am most happy. Marantz has gotten their lineup in order and now the products look as premium as they sound. My only complaint is that HEOS does not support Deezer lossless, which is maddening. So I use a Chromecast as a work-around. HEOS needs more work. At least the app is stable, if slow. It's not BluOS! Deezer through BluOS on a Bluesound Powernode is a much better experience. For anyone who loves music and movies / TV / console gaming, the Marantz Stereo 70s is the first receiver I'd tell them to consider.
I also got the Cinema 70S. I have other integrated amps (Rotel and NAD) in other rooms, and vintage Marantz and Sansui units as well. The Rotel does the 2-channel plus sub music and TV on my main floor, but the Cinema 70s replaces an older AVR in my basement cave. It will power my system just fine, and sound great for music if needed too.
They’re both great units, look better than Marantz’s less recent gear, and come highly recommended by reviewers. Plus, I was able to grab mine during Marantz trade-in days and saved a bundle!
I think the Cinema 70s is worth the extra $200. It keeps your options open for more channels and all those pre-outs are incredible.
My dream is to pick up the Cinema 70s and use my Denon POA-5200, LS50 Metas and powered sub 😊
Thanks for a great review. The quality of your videos are amazing. Thanks John.
OH Sweet!, I've been waiting for a review like this!
Certainly look amazing ! And judging by your review it performs amazing too. Thanks for the review and sharing 🙂
This is what I’ve been waiting for!
Great video John !!! I'm using mine as a preamp. Works great. Thanks for the video.
Since Christmas i started to read Tests,watch Videos to find what might be the most satisfying Entry to an audiophile Adventure. Ended up with the Stereo 70s, BuchardS400 Mk2, SVS Sb1000 Sub .Not for Big Bass but to support the Buchardts and its great what this support brings out to the Sound.Actually waiting for the new Cambridge CXN100 Streaming Device.
Till now i am soooo happy with the Setup, i´m listening to Music in a whole new Way.
And Darka has definetly his impact on my Decisions für the Equip.
I purchased the 70s last month (in black 😊) and have very happily running it every day with my B&W 706S3 bookshelf speakers and SVSSB1000Pro Sub. It's a great entry-level amp for the money if you value the option of HDMI I/O.
Does this support Spotify connect?
Even with gear I’d never consider buying, I continue to love your perspective and attitude.
Olá Darko, gosto muito dos teus videos. Cumprimentos desde Portugal.
Brilliant review as always
Good Video John! I Bought this Marantz 70S and i'm very happy. I have a small 5.1 Setup and I use it as a preamp only. AV Receivers or even AV Processors with separate Pre-Outs come normally in an other price league. In combination with active studio speakers from Adam Audio, this delivers a fantastic surround experience. A little lag over HDMI with a 4K Apple TV is noticeable, not with netfilx via the tv. Even playing stereo files in surround mode, is really fun and way above my espectations.
Thanks you JD for the review.
Nice review! I was waiting for this one, as I'm considering this amp in a near future to upgrade my Arcam Solo Movie 2.1! And it looks good too. 😉
Great video! Thank you for the advice on the external phono stages. I always wonder if I should get one.
There’s a lot of really good stuff here. The radio is extremely important to me and it represents the first decent, modern, replacement for the Arcam SR250 that we have seen in years. The only reason I wouldn’t replace my SR250 is that the Marantz doesn’t have DIRAC room correction. I really hope they do well with it.
I have a Marantz Cinema 70s AVR on order, the sibling, and will report back how it does with B&W CM8 towers. Its a 7.2 channel AVR with full pre-out which is a great thing should you want to hook up a volume fixed higher end integrated stereo amp for music listening while also enjoying home theatre. It has pre-amp only mode which enables you to upgrade the power should you wish.
I think that would have been a great comparison test with the stereo 70s.
The bass management only allows filtering LF for the sub out, and not HF for the speaker outputs. A shame as the amp is very complete in it’s feature set.
Nice coverage. I would add that all though subjective, the Marantz is an aesthetically pleasing piece of kit. if I ever forego vintage, the Marantz will be on my short list.
Thanks for this video, i have a marantz 40n with Definitive Technology D17 speakers and love the sound combo 😊..
Still love to see this video to know what you think.
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Hello John,
I know you have loved the NAD M33 Masters series and I think that you know Terry from Primare, I just bought a I35 amplifier with a DM36 module DAC and a Prisma module, I think it would be a good side by side comparaison between the two products.
Thanks for your amazing work 😊
I like what marantz has done here, integrating surround amplifier features in a stereo amplifier.
Would be interesting how the cambridge audio cxa81 would fair with the 70s.
Love the Tresor shirt.
Tresor t-shirt? From a guy that travelled across Europe 15 times from 1990-2000 to visit Berlin and tresor Berlin at Potsdamer Platz, I dig it 🤩
Excellent review. I have the NAD C658 ands Rotel 70w power amplifier and this might replace them.
I have the multichannel version of 70s and I love it.
Just got the Marantz Model 50. Quit nice.
As always, a very well balanced account. I have the Marantz PM7000 and really enjoy its features though as i can't be bothered playing money to subscribe to Spotify higher res, I put up with their standard version and just let it run in the background. Lazy, yes, but it does throw lots of unexpected artist to me as it has quickly realised I like America of the 1920s-1960s. Other than that I listen to FM Concert a lot here in little New Zealand, still have an older Rega Planar II turntable and a Marantz 6007 CD player, both getting regular use. And there is an older Marantz amp hooked up to a specialist 78rpm Rek-O-Kut turntable that plays my jazz/dance band discs and other genres from the 1920s. Both turntables run via Project Tube Box preamps. But 78rpm is not really a suitable topic for a modern audio channel! From the 78rpms You will guess that I'm a senior citizen (81 yo). Thanks for your reviews John, you are a talented presenter and I hope you will continue doing your reviews for many years to come.
I’ve been waiting for this video and more to come on the Stereo 70s. I recently purchased one and love it so far. Plus I’ve noticed that it shows up in my Roon as a Roon ready device but not yet certified. Until then I use the RHEOS extension to do so.
I don't know for sure but I've heard it *rumoured* that Roon Ready is just around the corner.
Could you explain RHEOS? I’ve been using airplay from Roon to my Marantz Cinema 60, purely because of HEOS track limit
@@DarkoAudio🤘🏼
@@mrjwarren101RHEOS is an extension you can use within Roon. It allows Roon to stream to the HEOS environment within Marantz or Denon as if it’s a squeezebox. Soon (and the creator knows this and is sad his extension would be obsolete lol) Marantz will be Roon Ready. One of the benefits of using this extension is that you can use the Roon environment as in the DSP and it will stream 192/24 which far surpasses the limitations of airplay. Hope this helps. Tons of documentation on the Roon community pages on RHEOS.
Really interesting for a beautiful 2.1 solution, perhaps with Kef bookshelf Reference 3?
I just got called out with the dad remote quip!😂😂😂
The fact the WiiM Amp is actually used as comparison (or context if you prefer) in this video says a lot about the value equation reframing that just occurred in the industry. You can get 3 WiiM Amps for one Stereo70 - all with superior software - and still purchase some 100 Eur + something before getting even with the Marantz from a budget POV, and certainly not inferior sound wise. Wait until the WiiM Amp Pro release…
Uhhhh… doesn’t have the same functionality.
if you like black boxes….
I recently replaced my Denon 600ne with Marantz 6007 and I've got to say that for 450 euros in 2024 it is on another level, better in any way.
Hello Darko. Great video as usual. What about a comparison between Marantz Stereo 70s and Denon DRA 900h? Greetings from Slovakia.
Super nice review!
What would you choose? This Marantz Stereo 70 or Yamaha RN800A?
Thank you
Exceptional piece. Makes a phenomenal preamp. I wish #1 it had a high pass crossover. #2 was not 400$ more than the NR1200 it replaces.
for my first jump into hifi i just picked up one of these, along with a pair of JBL L82s. not too bad. heos needs a complete remake jesus...
Hi John, any chance you can do more AVR reviews? Only for 2 channels and sound quality focus.
Hi John - Great vid. I know you have your views on HEOS / AirPlay 2 combo. Any chance you can do a video highlighting the quirks of HEOS, what you like / dislike etc. Thanks in advance.
I own a very humble Marantz m-cr612 for my small lounge. And it's more than adequate and some more.
If I had a bigger budget and larger room I'd consider this or the pm6007 plus cd or streamer
I'm wondering, strictly speaking from the sound quality perspective, how would this Stereo 70 compare to say a Cambridge Audio AXR100, or even a Rotel A11 Tribute?
6:09 Why would you need USB to S/PDIF converter? Usually you need USB in to connect PC, but you can connect PC via HDMI port. Right?
Where do you get these little mushroom lamps that look so cool?
Great video! I just bought that integrated amplifier due to the sound quality. How do you connect the Wiim Pro Plus to the Marantz stereo 70s? Is it HDMI? Will the Marantz show what Roon is playing on the TV when streaming to the Wiim Pro Plus, as it does when streaming to it via Airplay? Thanks!
Between marantz 7000N and steroe 70s, which one is better sound ?
Have you had a look at the LEAK Stereo 230 integrated? It has HDMI ARC among a raft of I/O options, so it would appear some old brands are listening. It's a bit more pricey than this Marantz, mind.
Also, I note how some are talking about how bad HEOS is. It would be great if you could one day do a comparison of multi-room hifi. Many of us have a "main" system but we can't all afford stunning hifi in the bathroom or kitchen, for example. We just need something that sounds good enough and isn't a tinny Bluetooth speaker. So how do they compare? I have Audio Pro throughout the house with their Link1 device to integrate my main system. Nice sounding hardware. Woeful software.
John thanks for your entertaining and relatable opinions. You are my go to for advice and for just knowing what's about.
Excelent review!! Do you have in mind reviewing new gear from Quad, Revela speakers and Platina amp??? True ribbon tweeter from a great company!!!!thanks and cheers from Argentina
You mention hdmi out for on screen now playing screen. Is that with just one HDMI arc connection or does one need 2 connections for this functionality?
Great price! How do you think it will sound with Monitor Audio Silver 100 5G? Does it have a fairly round and warm sound?
Ive had the stereo 70 for about 5 months now and i use a fully differential external amp for power. Use the stereo 70 as a preamp. Been thinking of going with schiit preamp in order to take advantage of fully balanced connection. Do you think the sound difference is worth it or just stay with the stereo 70?
A very nice review indeed. Being a Marantz fan myself I enjoy their slimline but I can't help but notice that this is basicallly a restyled NR1200 with 350EUR uplift... I know inflation and it offers a lot of functionality but still...
Would be great to see a Yamaha NR2000a streaming integrated amplifier review
Like your T shirt 💪
Are you able to load the Apple Music app on your TV and then play music directly via the HDMI connection?
Really silly thing, but I like the idea of the renaming of the sources on the marantz. I don’t think I will be moving away from my Audiolab as, my ears are knackered and I’m not sure how much more I would need to spend to get enough of a better sound to warrant it. I do however intend to buy the wiim amp after having a couple of wiim pro’s since they were released. They anre around the house for streaming with smaller amp/speakers set ups, but having the amp combined is such a very simple solution and after getting such great reviews this sounds a real simple decision.
I've been waiting for this video to appear. I'm quite taken by the look of this amp and spend as much time listening to music as watching TV through a stereo. I had the Denon DRA-800H for a couple of years but got irritated with HEOS and found the sound a bit thick and congested on the Q Acoustics 3020i I use. I swapped out for a NAD 3045 with all important HDMI connection and find the sound much more tonally to my liking. A stroke of luck really as I bought blind from a second hand site. People rave about the Marantz sound quality in general so I'm tempted to find somewhere to give it a listen. The zone 2 pre out is a feature I'd really like to have for feeding music/TV into a room adjoining the lounge without additional wireless boxes involved. Worth mentioning in a follow up maybe ?
Cheers, like your work a lot. Great presentation style.
You didn’t mention that this would make an excellent preamp. I have the NR1200. Which is basically the predecessor to this one. And that’s how I use it. I’m working on my second kit amp now. And for a preamp, it does a good job.
What do you use for your power amp?
Nice review John as always. Are both amps able to handle 4 ohm loads? Don’t the R3 Metas go below 4 ohms at some frequencies?
From the Kef homepage
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE
4 Ω (min. 3.2 Ω)
I bought one the first day of release, do I like it? YEP!
Marantz is my favourite amp
Dad remotes! 😂 I love it! Great review. Thanks for including the WiiM amp. It seems to be a measurable disruptor.
Love mine. Only issue is the remote app. It tends to report incorrect information and occasionally doesn’t function properly.
It's certainly a serious contender with all these features and with good sound, as expected from Marantz. However, I'd seriously consider Atoll's IN80, with the DA200 digital internal extension, that has optical, coax, usb and bluetooth. Less bells and whistles for sure, but I bet it sounds better.
You'd need an A B demonstration to ascertain that.
@@andrewbrazier9664 Sure! Not denying its the only way to find out, but since there's no such luck, I have to rely to what I read in reviews.
The CZcams video art picture reminded me of the Beatles, Pete Best?
Hello, excellent video as usual.
I.m wondering if i should change my Rotel A12 for this Marantz stereo 70s? I would have 15W of increase in power and plenty of HDMI ARC connect. Or maybe it would be a better choice to add a power amp to my actual A12 to stream Spotify? But i will still be stuck with no HDMI so i don't know. Audio is getting more and more complicated, it's a tough game but you make it easier to understand, thank you.
Rotel and Marantz have completely different sound... Marantz is warm, thick and Rotel is very revealing, detailed. If you like the sound of Rotel, than get a Rotel power amp instead.
Does it come with a RHCP button too?
Looks like a refreshed NR1200 after looking inside.
That’s what I was thinking.
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Gibt es deiner Meinung nach AV-Receiver, die auch beim Musikhören an die audiophile Eigenschaften eines Stereo-Receiver herankommen?
Bin grad am überlegen zwischen AV- & Stereoreceiver, soll sowohl für Film als auch Musik dienen.
Multikanal ist nicht geplant, lediglich 2.1. (Dali-Standboxen mit KC62 oder SVS3000micro).
Danke und weiter so!
Hallo. Stand vor der selben Frage allerdings für ein 5.1 Setup und b&w 707 vorne und 607 hinten plus b&w Sub. Höre ca 70% Musik und 30% Filme/Games etc. Meine Lösung war dann einen Marantz AVR Cinema 60 in Verbindung mit einer Stereoendstufe von NAD. Das habe ich mit dem passenden Marantz CD Player kombiniert und einem Elac Discovery Musikserver. Für meinen Geschmack klingt diese Kombi im Sterobereich nicht viel schlechter als ein einer Stereoverstärker aber ich habe eben noch 5.1. Die Musik höre ich im PureDirect Modus ohne Sub und hab für meinen 25qm Raum mehr als genug Druck. Hatte parallel auch über eine Soundbar und ein reines Stereosetup überlegt aber das ist für Film und Games nicht das gleiche wenn man 5.1 seit Jahren gewohnt ist.
@@HatoriHanso5679 Danke. Welche Stereoendstufe von NAD hast du gewählt, C268? Wie wird diese an den Marantz angeschlossen?
Goes through all the trouble, and does so every video, to explain why he's comparing what he is to the review item in question. And every single video still has comments like "How does this stack up against [insert component John just said he doesn't have]?"
Does this support Spotify connect?
I've been considering the Marantz as an all-in-one to get HDMI arc, Airplay/spotify, and turntable connected in my apartment to combine stereo and basic home theater. I was also looking at paying a bit more for the Lyngdorf TDAI 1120. Sounds like Marantz will fit the bill, but is the roomperfect and internals of the Lyngdorf a real step up?
Not currently many 2 channel integrated amplifiers that do it all and include hdmi arc. I personally ended up going with the Technics SU-GX70. It has hdmi arc, Spotify, AirPlay 2, MQA, Phono, and many other great features. It does lack in overall wattage output and has no dedicated sub(s) output with crossover control like the Marantz. Only a pre-out. That being said, it is still very feature rich, has superb build quality, and its own proprietary room correction. It might be worth adding to your list. Especially, if you have interest in the pricer Lyngdorf (which I haven't personally heard). I'd love to see Darko review the Technics. As I think it is very much a “future fi” product at its core. But, I still would personally love to hear the Marantz. The Marantz seem to pack a lot at its price point and is also very feature rich. It's also $1000 cheaper than the Technics and the Lyngdorf.
Hi John, bit of a random question but can I ask which App or method do you use to display album art work on your Tv? Many thanks.
Judging by previous videos it seems like he mainly uses Apple Music.
I have the option of getting the cinema 60 for the same price as the stereo 70. Which should I choose?
Johnnys got style!
The problem for me is the limitation of Marantz's DAC at 24/192. As for myself, I rip my CD on computer with a very good application called Switch in 32/384 or 768 Khz. So, if I buy this amplifier, I will have a good sound with my CD player but I can't read my music if I connect the Marantz 70 to my SHanling M6 Ultra. 😕 Finally I think of buying a PM 14 S1 in second hand and a DAC, it will be easier to read my files in 32/384 and it may will be cheaper as well.
24bit and 96kHz ist more than human ears can decode, so it would only be a psychological point, not an audiophile.
Does it do DSD via HDMI?
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Hi John, nice review. Can you tell us if it has a high pass filter?
Not that I know of.
Have just double-checked with Marantz. There is no high pass filter.
Thank you for the information. I have a PM7000N at the moment. Have been running it with a Micro 3000 but do miss the high pass filter also. My previous powernode sounded better in my room at least with high pass filtering.
Potentially interested in this stereo amp. Would this be powerful enough to drive Kef LS50 Metas? They are pretty power hungry speakers. Any advice is appreciated.
I have thay same quistion
I think I'd try & get an A B demo with Monitor Audio 100 Silver speakers which I believe would be a better synergy with the Marantz.
I wasn't struck with the LSs sound although many rate them. I had MA bronze with a Marantz PM6006 2 channel amp 👍
@@larre420 @stromblessed2673 did anyone of you tried it? I'm wondering about similar setup.
Hey John,
Hot damn, I'm really pumped to get the 70s!
But wait a minute, it has nice features but how does it sound compared to the 40N or the Model 30? I'm a 95% music and 5% video guy. But the connectivity is very alluring nonetheless.
I heard the Audiolab briefly and found it too lean for my vintage ears.
The model 50 is nice too, but it's strange to have model 50 + cd50n around 3500 € when the 40n is there for 2500€...
I mean I love the convenience of an all in one even if the separates is on the paper is maybe more "convenient" about the separation from the sources.
I'm sure both are very nice, 40n is very nice too, but it's strange to have separates much pricer than the 40n (even if we have a cd player in addition) because 50+cd50 is one lower range behind the 40n..
The stereo 70 is nice but it's more on the av side than hifi ...it's the new nr1200.
I'm waiting the replacement of the 7000n.... To see how things turn...
On the paper model 50+cd50, it was I look for but not at 3500€...
Or a 40n +cd should be fun for an all in one...
How does the sound compared to the Model 40N?
It should come as no surprise the answer is simply: 70s is inferior to the 40n
How are you getting your music appearing on your TV? I've been trying to figure this out for a few months, without diminishing sound quality.
I want to know as well, have asked a couple of times on darko videos.. only way I can think is play through in built Spotify or tidal app via Apple TV etc.. but that prob messes with the sound
I found a way to do it with AirPlay and my iPhone. You got those bits of gear ?
Review sounds like it's an amzing choise for an amp, so now I wonder how does it compare to Marantz 40n which seems to be similar to 70s but it is twice more expensive. I recon 70s might have a less high end DAC maybe but nowhere I can find the DAC specs for 70s to compare. Or simply and for some unknown reason 40n just sounds £1000 better.
Would the Dali Oberon 5's make a good combination with the stereo 70s?
There is some Japanese sound test video available here on CZcams with Oberons
The comparison was spot on. Neither have great streaming platforms! I wonder if you used the Marantz for TV sound and how it performed?
Hello darko, what volumes do you listen to in your test setup.
Depends. In Berlin, 65-75dB. In Lisbon, 70-85dB.
@@DarkoAudio Thanks. Thats plenty for most people. Did you use the amplifier with eco modo on?
Is it possible to play music via Spotify Connect while not switching on the TV unit?
Yes
That is just video content I need, to find where I am must seen to find the best for me, big thanks from me Mr. Darko.
But one question for you, do you listen PRIMARE brand products any acasion?! If you do, have you some opinion about them, sa the brand and the quality in general?!
Not heard any Primare...yet. It's on the list for 2024. 👍🏻
@@DarkoAudioIf you haven't heard Primare, you've missed out on a lot. This is the best thing on the market, as for me, they are very attractive with their “musicality”.
The Denon DRA-900H is 100w/ch @ 8ohms and has almost all of the same functionality at a slightly lower price.
but how about the difference in sound?
You mention bass management for the Marantz. Is it really, without a high pass filter?.
No high pass filter on this amp.
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Why oh why did they not include proper subwoofer management like in their AVRs?
A retailer promised me that the LPF setting also applies an HPF.
Is this something you can confirm? :)
There is no HPF in this amp.
@@DarkoAudio Thank you!
My first concern is whether the Marantz can play through both the A & B set of speaker posts at the same time? If so, it can be used to Bi-Amp a set of speakers, which for many of us would be a distinct advantage. Also, John you didn't cover soundstage and imaging... Finally, I see that this Marantz retains its bare wire only speaker binding posts.
And yet I clearly used banana plugs with this amp. 😉
Oops! Ya got me there John.@@DarkoAudio
Marantz question not amp though . I have a maranzt CD52 mk2 special edition. . Is it worth upgrading to a more modern cd player or is there a ceiling limit on sound quality and did they hit that with this cd player in the 90’s
The only upgrade worth doing is to a higher class CD, not the same just a modern one... The CD53 is a great piece.
@TheGforceuk No. You're fine. You need to get a $700-1000 one, of todays models, to see any difference.