Actually, the reason that the controller cables are so short is that people in Japan (prior to wireless controllers becoming the norm, at least) tend to keep their consoles on a living room table or the floor (rather than below or to the side of the TV like we do in the west), so they didn't need to be as long as the NES's. It's an arrangement I've adopted myself, because it allows you to change cartridges, press the reset button, etc without having to get up. Call me lazy if you want, but when you're constantly hitting reset to start over because you keep losing the first race of the Special Circuit in the original "Super Mario Kart", it just makes sense.
This comment is a fucking gem to me, a relic of the past. A time gone by when we didn't care about being funny or getting the most likes. We just said exactly what was on our minds.
You may remember me from six years ago. I planned to buy a Famicom at that time, and asked you about a power adapter or something of that nature. Today, I acquired a Famicom! I still think it's one of the most interesting consoles out there. These videos brought back many great memories of those times!
Hey Sean, I just got my Famicom with the disk system in the mail yesterday. I started to enjoy playing that more then any of my other consoles I own. I have you and Vinnk to thank for getting me interested into the Famicom. 👍👊
KillThad aadz93 Making me feel old, guys. ;) Thanks for being fans for so long. I hope you've been watching the Winter Dojo, complete with a "remake" of this episode!
Probably uploaded video wit no idea he was going to actually have a viral following, ya know become famous and don't know what to do wit it.... Like writers block, probably didn't see yourself still using the channel in 2022
I can't believe I've spent 11y watching youtube without watching this video, and without knowing your channel. you're a genius, all the jokes you've put together here are amazing, specially for the wario ware presentation.
Enjoyed the show man, been looking up famicom stuff lately and learned a bit from this episode. Thanks! And loom forward to the other shows and IG posts
Short answer: you can use the power adapter that comes with the Famicom, though some have cited overheating issues on the US grid. You can use a Genesis Model 1 adapter from the US, but some overheating may still occur. Some Japanese resellers include a modern adapter that works on 120V no problem. Longer answer: czcams.com/video/36J_Ejnv2qc/video.html Also, make sure you subscribe to our dedicated CZcams channel for Famicom Dojo, which has all of our new stuff, including a video coming out tomorrow! czcams.com/users/famicomdojo
Good show. Always wanted a good look at the famicom systems. I can only see this getting better and better in the future. Definitly gonna watch out for these.
Which was addressed in a later Denshimail video, and will be again (in more detail) in an upcoming video. The how and why of the mapping differences is an interesting story. Perhaps I'll tell the whole thing some day!
@@SeanOrange actually pretty psyched to know that. The original famicom series is basically how I learned all about the various jp versions of things yrs ago. Funny enough I still remember most of these jokes all the same even if it's prob been a decade since I watched it last haha.
The DVD has commentary, specials that aren't available for free, and improvements/glitch fixes from this version. It's also higher-quality. It'll also be a FANTASTIC encouragement for us to make more. ;)
Yeah, I sold a Famicom on ebay years ago, and got a negative rating, because the buyer thought I sold him a "junk" Famicom, because it wouldn't display on channel 1 or 2. Little did he know he should have used channel 95 or 96. Oh well, thankfully ebay no longer uses ratings from 10 years ago to account for your current percentage. I hope Digdugger85 figured out it was channel 95 or 96!
I like the part where the guy intro the system, Wario: Smooth Moves style. You know, that B&W drawing with a calm, soothing male voice speaks like a philospher.
Has anyone noticed that the Wii fits under the Famicom almost perfectly, and resembles a FDS?! You could paint the Wii like the FDS and put the Fami over it and make it look awesomely retro!!!
Way to go. That was definitely one of the better video game history vids I've seen. Can one of you guys help me figure out if my Famicom system is a fake? Mines missing the logo seen on the left front of your system.
By using one of the Disk Writer kiosks that used to be found all across Japan, which I mention at 5:24. The DVD version of this episode was updated with a photo of one of these kiosks. A scaled model of one can also be seen in the new Denshimail - Rare Games episode we did recently.
I was very lucky to not only find a Disk System for an excellent price, but one where the band wasn't broken. Famicom Dojo FTW! But the explanation behind that is probably a whole different installment. Hey, that's not a bad idea...
Well I'm surprised, the show is actually quite good. Of course, it's done more in an educative purpose. Consolevania it ain't but it surely isn't the 1UP show. Keep it up!
I think those are for the newer Famicoms. There was at least one hardware update during its lifecycle. I was able to verify this when we tried to fix a TV/GAME switch, and it didn't have the same internal workings.
Fun fact: you don't "need" the disk drive to play the FDS games the ram adapter the only thing that cares is where is the data is send so you can build your own virtual Disk System to operate a famous and obscure example is the FDSstick which emulate the disk drive as it is
There are lots of modern ways around the old hardware; if you watch our Data Recorder video, we demonstrate how to save and load data for games without a tape deck: Famicom Data Recorder and NES Programmable Series czcams.com/video/__9VYaKMwQI/video.html
You just gave me a really good idea: we should really be reviewing each of these things. I would think it can, but the sound might not work. But that's the sort of thing we would find out for sure by getting our hands on one and doing a review. Stay tuned! :D
Here's how I play Famicom (the original version, not the AV) away from the TV -- Get the RCA Male to Female extension cable for the RF switch, and two indoor extension cords for the AC adapters (one for the Famicom itself (I used the one from Genesis Model 1) and the other for the FDS (I used Casio AD-510 AC adapter)).
@Damauveropolis I'm pretty sure we say in the video, but it's 56KB on each side of the disk for a potential total of 112 -- which include any space needed for game saves.
You will probably have to hook it up through a VCR, which I have been told by reputable sources have been able to detect NTSC signals for quite some time now. It also depends on your TV, so maybe it can too. We will get something together more definitively on the subject with an actual expert in the PAL region! Stay tuned.
Show us more footage of Famicom Disk system games highlighting the difference in sound between the FDS versions of games and their cartridge counterparts.
I'm editing the very elaborate into to Season 2 right now! :O The rest? Well, it's hard to say. We're trying to work ahead this year so we don't have huge gaps in between the episodes again. We're working hard, though!
Just found this channel and I love it! Quick question, I live in the US. What's the proper way to plug in the Famicom? Is Japanese electricity different from North America? I just don't want to fry it!
VGx7 to awnser your question as long as you have a famicom power adapter then it will be alright to plug in for the us(japan and The USA have the same power socket) Japanese adpaters work fine here due to the power voltage, though never use a NES adapter with a famicom, if yours is missing then their are adapters, like the retro DC
The Family Computer Robot / ROB wasn't released until 1985, and since the Famicom was originally released in 1983 it indeed was released without the Robot and (to my knowledge) was always sold separately. Also, The Family Computer Robot came with Stack Up and not Gyromite like ROB did in the US.
True! But our latest Denshimail (Famicom Controller Replacement) shows just how easy the process is. What isn't as easy is just finding a new controller...
Fascinating stuff. I just imported a boxed Disk System from Japan that I were planning on using with my American NES2 through a pin converter. I might import a classic FamiCom later if I can find one that have been modded to output A/V. That would be best as the NES2 don't support that expanded sound... I bought a "sealed" Metroid and SMB2 with the disk system for the moment.
@TheMarioMan1 The Famicom had its own version of the Zapper, but it was shaped like an actual six-shooter. Even with the more lax toy gun rules in the '80s, there's no way that would fly in the US!
Famicom looks awesome!! I loved the shape and design of that console. The Disk System was a great idea. From that add-on came out for first time, great games like: Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania (the first Castlevania. It actually came from Famicom and not from Arcade or MSX), Super Mario Bros. 2 (the Original & Only SMB 2). Greetings from Mexico. Sorry my bad english
Well, yeah, it's a more advanced form of the waveform channel in the Gameboy, the fm is used for vibrato effects. For example: Zelda 2 intro, most of the fds instruments use vibrato effects by fm.
Thanks! There's lots more where that came from. The show currently airs every Friday on WYOU in Madison, WI, but you can also watch on WYOU.org if you don't live in the area, and want to see what the "TV" version is like. :)
the strange thing about this Family Computer of mine is that every time I turn it on, i don't even have a cartridge on it and yet it already contained a bunch of games. Some of the games off the top of my head that are on this list is Rock Man, Super Mario, Contra, Popeye, Devil World
Fantastic man! I just imported a bunch of famicom disk games. Arumana no Kiseki, Seiken Psycho Calibur, Ai Senshi Nicol, Esper Dreams. I tried to search youtube for: "RAIJIN famicom disk" and this video was the first which popped up :)
@bulletproof2353 :O !! 1) The disks were a completely unique size, but that didn't stop people from pirating games for personal use, or -- even worse -- creating or copying games onto their own disks and distributing them that way. 2) There were no official backup units, although there were 3rd party ones like the one you mentioned. 3) Someone just mentioned on another episode that the mystery port on the RAM cart could be used to read/write data, so dumps can come from there. Cheers!
Hiro! 久しぶり！ Don't worry about Zelda -- I was able to get a working copy from you, AND I have an interesting story to tell about it! Thank you for letting us use your shop's name. I hope we will do it justice.
i like the red and white design so much more than the large vcr looking box... then the disks cool.. the controls not being removable haha that kind of sux if they break
It was supposedly going to be a Donkey Kong game, which is appropriate since the other two launch titles were Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong, Jr.! So it only kind of makes sense...
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, the reason that the controller cables are so short is that people in Japan (prior to wireless controllers becoming the norm, at least) tend to keep their consoles on a living room table or the floor (rather than below or to the side of the TV like we do in the west), so they didn't need to be as long as the NES's.
It's an arrangement I've adopted myself, because it allows you to change cartridges, press the reset button, etc without having to get up. Call me lazy if you want, but when you're constantly hitting reset to start over because you keep losing the first race of the Special Circuit in the original "Super Mario Kart", it just makes sense.
High Quality (HQ) is the best kind of video...back then.
CZcams couldn't even do 640x480, so we put up "full resolution" version on our old RSS video feed back in the day.
Lol i like when he makes the nes and famicom talk
This comment is a fucking gem to me, a relic of the past. A time gone by when we didn't care about being funny or getting the most likes. We just said exactly what was on our minds.
@@skidmarx8905damn right
You may remember me from six years ago. I planned to buy a Famicom at that time, and asked you about a power adapter or something of that nature. Today, I acquired a Famicom! I still think it's one of the most interesting consoles out there. These videos brought back many great memories of those times!
Congratulations! How are you liking the world of retro import gaming?
The video that made me wanna buy a famicom
Hey Sean, I just got my Famicom with the disk system in the mail yesterday. I started to enjoy playing that more then any of my other consoles I own. I have you and Vinnk to thank for getting me interested into the Famicom. 👍👊
Sweet! Enjoy!
The disk system's sound chip is wavetable based, not FM synth.
Yeah, we're gonna have to update that oversight... thank you!
no problem :)
Man, this was 11 years ago. Time sure flies.
Thanks for the kind words. There were several things about this installment that bothered me, but we're always looking to improve. Glad you liked it!
wow 7 years since the was uploaded.....doesn't feel that long
KillThad aadz93 Making me feel old, guys. ;)
Thanks for being fans for so long. I hope you've been watching the Winter Dojo, complete with a "remake" of this episode!
Probably uploaded video wit no idea he was going to actually have a viral following, ya know become famous and don't know what to do wit it.... Like writers block, probably didn't see yourself still using the channel in 2022
Maybe they really did anticipate people throwing the controller, the term NES Hard existed for a reason.
+Mr. JH They are indeed pretty sturdy.
I got a famicom as an early birthday gift! so excited to use one! Always enjoyed watching famicom dojo! Can't wait to see more soon.
Nice! Happy birthday!
Glad I bought the DVD so I could support you guys. :D
And we thank you very, very much. We hope you are enjoying the new episodes as part of the Winter Dojo.
Came to watch this after the famicom mini episode!
jercon 85 Twelve more years! Twelve more years!
I can't believe I've spent 11y watching youtube without watching this video, and without knowing your channel. you're a genius, all the jokes you've put together here are amazing, specially for the wario ware presentation.
AW SHUCKS.
Enjoyed the show man, been looking up famicom stuff lately and learned a bit from this episode. Thanks! And loom forward to the other shows and IG posts
Spoony is this guy's evil twin.
Freako This is weirdly accurate and I don't know how to feel about it.
I first watched this video in my retro gaming phase of 2013-2015 and revisiting it after all these years
I'd like to publicly apologize for ever doubting you. best video ever.
Cool, hope, pray & fast, I get to revive my Famicom and find a Disk System for the Famicom disk and a power supply for it.
I got pwned? Haven't heard that in eons...
Short answer: you can use the power adapter that comes with the Famicom, though some have cited overheating issues on the US grid. You can use a Genesis Model 1 adapter from the US, but some overheating may still occur. Some Japanese resellers include a modern adapter that works on 120V no problem.
Longer answer:
czcams.com/video/36J_Ejnv2qc/video.html
Also, make sure you subscribe to our dedicated CZcams channel for Famicom Dojo, which has all of our new stuff, including a video coming out tomorrow!
czcams.com/users/famicomdojo
That's Orange are you guys still making videos?
Good show.
Always wanted a good look at the famicom systems.
I can only see this getting better and better in the future. Definitly gonna watch out for these.
The "some reason" is that Japanese broadcast frequencies are allocated differently than American ones.
Which was addressed in a later Denshimail video, and will be again (in more detail) in an upcoming video. The how and why of the mapping differences is an interesting story. Perhaps I'll tell the whole thing some day!
Still have my DVD kicking around here..
AWWW yeah. Dust it off and watch it all! We’re working on the SP Editions, and you’re gonna want to catch all of the alterations/additions. ;)
@@SeanOrange actually pretty psyched to know that. The original famicom series is basically how I learned all about the various jp versions of things yrs ago. Funny enough I still remember most of these jokes all the same even if it's prob been a decade since I watched it last haha.
My mother used to say life is like a Famicom Disk System game. You never know what you're gonna get.
Well made and funny. Wish it was longer. Make another!
10 years later Sean Orange likes my comment. Get hype!
Thanks! We aim to please.
Keep watching for new stuff soon.
Is just amazing that the famicom was released in 1983 and that it lasted until 2003 it is crazy the NES lasted until 1991 or 1992
The NES 2 was released in 1994, and the NES in general was discontinued in 1995 - one year before the release of the N64!
@@SeanOrange Oh yes it's true I forgot the nes 2 thank you sean (when will a next video on the channel)
Best use for the Famicom microphone ever.
The DVD has commentary, specials that aren't available for free, and improvements/glitch fixes from this version. It's also higher-quality.
It'll also be a FANTASTIC encouragement for us to make more. ;)
You look like if Spoony and ProJared had a baby.
What, no Zach Braff?
But with way better lips.
Ironic that Popeye was a launch title that considering Nintendo based Donkey Kong's characters on Popeye's.
Yeah, I sold a Famicom on ebay years ago, and got a negative rating, because the buyer thought I sold him a "junk" Famicom, because it wouldn't display on channel 1 or 2. Little did he know he should have used channel 95 or 96. Oh well, thankfully ebay no longer uses ratings from 10 years ago to account for your current percentage. I hope Digdugger85 figured out it was channel 95 or 96!
I'm super Excited for the 10 year anniversary! ^_^ July 16th 2017!
I like the part where the guy intro the system, Wario: Smooth Moves style. You know, that B&W drawing with a calm, soothing male voice speaks like a philospher.
Yup! We demonstrate this sweet power in Episode 5.
Has anyone noticed that the Wii fits under the Famicom almost perfectly, and resembles a FDS?! You could paint the Wii like the FDS and put the Fami over it and make it look awesomely retro!!!
Way to go. That was definitely one of the better video game history vids I've seen. Can one of you guys help me figure out if my Famicom system is a fake? Mines missing the logo seen on the left front of your system.
Don't mind me. I'm just gonna go and watch all the famicom dojo videos today.
By using one of the Disk Writer kiosks that used to be found all across Japan, which I mention at 5:24.
The DVD version of this episode was updated with a photo of one of these kiosks.
A scaled model of one can also be seen in the new Denshimail - Rare Games episode we did recently.
Good question! Off the top of my head, the logo means that the Famicom was manufactured later.
I was very lucky to not only find a Disk System for an excellent price, but one where the band wasn't broken. Famicom Dojo FTW! But the explanation behind that is probably a whole different installment. Hey, that's not a bad idea...
I hear ya. Stay tuned this Monday and Tuesday!
You changed the thumbnail X3
Mario The M Hat Hero I changed a lot of them! Check ‘em out!
SeanOrange I posted my response to the Change on Twitter also Woot Sean Noticed me XD
Well I'm surprised, the show is actually quite good. Of course, it's done more in an educative purpose. Consolevania it ain't but it surely isn't the 1UP show.
Keep it up!
I think those are for the newer Famicoms. There was at least one hardware update during its lifecycle. I was able to verify this when we tried to fix a TV/GAME switch, and it didn't have the same internal workings.
Fun fact: you don't "need" the disk drive to play the FDS games the ram adapter the only thing that cares is where is the data is send so you can build your own virtual Disk System to operate a famous and obscure example is the FDSstick which emulate the disk drive as it is
There are lots of modern ways around the old hardware; if you watch our Data Recorder video, we demonstrate how to save and load data for games without a tape deck: Famicom Data Recorder and NES Programmable Series
czcams.com/video/__9VYaKMwQI/video.html
Cool vid. I really loved the conversations between NES and Famicom (if only I knew what FC was saying...).
These Famicon Dojo videos are funny and informative. Subbed.
You just gave me a really good idea: we should really be reviewing each of these things.
I would think it can, but the sound might not work. But that's the sort of thing we would find out for sure by getting our hands on one and doing a review.
Stay tuned! :D
Actually, Hudson released an accessory that held the Famicom and the Disk System together. (It pops up on eBay from time to time.
I love the exclamation when the find out that Wrecking Crew is on the Zelda disk.
We will be addressing Famiclones sometime this season, although perhaps not the YOBO in specific -- I'll have to check with Vinnk.
Very very soon! Also almost 30 years of Famicom... hmmm...
Here's how I play Famicom (the original version, not the AV) away from the TV --
Get the RCA Male to Female extension cable for the RF switch, and two indoor extension cords for the AC adapters (one for the Famicom itself (I used the one from Genesis Model 1) and the other for the FDS (I used Casio AD-510 AC adapter)).
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
@Damauveropolis I'm pretty sure we say in the video, but it's 56KB on each side of the disk for a potential total of 112 -- which include any space needed for game saves.
The same way that I get sound from any of the game videos we show: it all comes through the sound channel.
You will probably have to hook it up through a VCR, which I have been told by reputable sources have been able to detect NTSC signals for quite some time now. It also depends on your TV, so maybe it can too.
We will get something together more definitively on the subject with an actual expert in the PAL region! Stay tuned.
Show us more footage of Famicom Disk system games highlighting the difference in sound between the FDS versions of games and their cartridge counterparts.
I'm editing the very elaborate into to Season 2 right now! :O
The rest? Well, it's hard to say. We're trying to work ahead this year so we don't have huge gaps in between the episodes again. We're working hard, though!
nice job with the description at 0:49 like from Wario Ware Smooth Moves, I wish I still had that game
Just found this channel and I love it!
Quick question, I live in the US. What's the proper way to plug in the Famicom? Is Japanese electricity different from North America? I just don't want to fry it!
VGx7 to awnser your question as long as you have a famicom power adapter then it will be alright to plug in for the us(japan and The USA have the same power socket) Japanese adpaters work fine here due to the power voltage, though never use a NES adapter with a famicom, if yours is missing then their are adapters, like the retro DC
The Family Computer Robot / ROB wasn't released until 1985, and since the Famicom was originally released in 1983 it indeed was released without the Robot and (to my knowledge) was always sold separately.
Also, The Family Computer Robot came with Stack Up and not Gyromite like ROB did in the US.
OMG Popeye I remember this game!!! I used to play it on the ps1. I had a 500 NES Games CD ! :D Those were good times
True! But our latest Denshimail (Famicom Controller Replacement) shows just how easy the process is. What isn't as easy is just finding a new controller...
Fascinating stuff. I just imported a boxed Disk System from Japan that I were planning on using with my American NES2 through a pin converter. I might import a classic FamiCom later if I can find one that have been modded to output A/V. That would be best as the NES2 don't support that expanded sound... I bought a "sealed" Metroid and SMB2 with the disk system for the moment.
Wrecking Crew?!?!?! i got PWNED! pure gold, can't wait for more!
I can't wait for new episodes of this! When are they coming out?
2:38 WRONG!! They did NOT release the Famicom in Christmas 1983 (when the crash is reported to have begun), they released it WAY before December.
You are the one who is wrong!!!!!!
@TheMarioMan1 The Famicom had its own version of the Zapper, but it was shaped like an actual six-shooter. Even with the more lax toy gun rules in the '80s, there's no way that would fly in the US!
Famicom looks awesome!! I loved the shape and design of that console. The Disk System was a great idea. From that add-on came out for first time, great games like: Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania (the first Castlevania. It actually came from Famicom and not from Arcade or MSX), Super Mario Bros. 2 (the Original & Only SMB 2). Greetings from Mexico. Sorry my bad english
Yay! More Warioware smooth moves Form Baton poses. Now, how do I hold the Wii Remote?
If the "Wrecking Crew" part ever happens to me, I would freak out.
Well, yeah, it's a more advanced form of the waveform channel in the Gameboy, the fm is used for vibrato effects. For example: Zelda 2 intro, most of the fds instruments use vibrato effects by fm.
Thanks! There's lots more where that came from.
The show currently airs every Friday on WYOU in Madison, WI, but you can also watch on WYOU.org if you don't live in the area, and want to see what the "TV" version is like. :)
the strange thing about this Family Computer of mine is that every time I turn it on, i don't even have a cartridge on it and yet it already contained a bunch of games. Some of the games off the top of my head that are on this list is Rock Man, Super Mario, Contra, Popeye, Devil World
Fantastic man! I just imported a bunch of famicom disk games. Arumana no Kiseki, Seiken Psycho Calibur, Ai Senshi Nicol, Esper Dreams. I tried to search youtube for: "RAIJIN famicom disk" and this video was the first which popped up :)
@bulletproof2353 :O !!
1) The disks were a completely unique size, but that didn't stop people from pirating games for personal use, or -- even worse -- creating or copying games onto their own disks and distributing them that way.
2) There were no official backup units, although there were 3rd party ones like the one you mentioned.
3) Someone just mentioned on another episode that the mystery port on the RAM cart could be used to read/write data, so dumps can come from there.
Cheers!
@Sajun88 Thanks! We'll be making plenty more very soon. :D
Hiro! 久しぶり！ Don't worry about Zelda -- I was able to get a working copy from you, AND I have an interesting story to tell about it!
Thank you for letting us use your shop's name. I hope we will do it justice.
Oh man, I HOPE it only gets better! Hahaha. I'm glad you liked it.
@mehpipi It was me saying it through the Player 2 controller microphone on the Famicom. ;)
@SeanOrange Darn, I really wanted to play Mother with the mic. I just wanted to shout PK THUNDER! At the screen.
3:06 OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS THE FIRTS ONE?????????????????
Adriel Guerriero The original, you might say!
@@SeanOrange I DON'T KNOW.
Adriel Guerriero It IS the original, fear not!
It's a callback (call forward?) to the Metal Gear Solid games. The game in question on the screen at the time was the original Metal Gear.
Dude I LOVED your WarioWare Smooth Moves references. Hilarious! Also rewritten Zelda game hilarious.
Wrecking Crew is the most underrated game in the Zelda series xD
Yeah. It's weird that they redesigned it at all for the US, since the Super Famicom is so similar.
i like the red and white design so much more than the large vcr looking box... then the disks cool.. the controls not being removable haha that kind of sux if they break
thanks for sharing SeanOrange
@JuanMamaril Oh, I'm aware. We'll be getting to the AV Famicom later in Season 2!
@Pichu441 Thanks! We're working on a new one right now.
700 Likes!! Needs MOAR!
no, when I said "rox", its an abbreviation (sp?) of "rocks".
It was supposedly going to be a Donkey Kong game, which is appropriate since the other two launch titles were Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong, Jr.! So it only kind of makes sense...
Great vid! I had no Zach Braff was a gamer.
Do you know the use of the expansion port that is on the RAM adapter? I am curious...