Propagandhi - "Failed States"
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- "Failed States" by Propagandhi, the title track from the new album, available now! Get it at www.epitaphstore.com
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It took me a couple of years to realized how good this album is actually is. Long live Propagandhi
This is the best album they have ever made. Lyrics, chord progressions, tightness, production, etc. Hands down.
beaver was still in the band
I think Life at Disconnect from Potemkin City Limits really shows of their virtuosic capabilities.
I don't know when I upvoted you, but scrolling down, went to click +1 and saw I already had. nice.
This is the first time I've listened to this band so I hit play and went to a different tab, and it started playing indie music and I was like WTF. Then I realized it was an ad. Sick song!
No recuerdo exactamente hace cuanto tiempo, quizas sea hace dos años. Antes me sentia algo decepcionado por todo lo que habia hecho propagandhi despues de "Less talk, more rock", incluso pensaba que su nuevo material era de menor calidad. Con el tiempo fui dandome cuenta que cada disco de propagandhi es mejor que el anterior, por lo menos tecnicamente, aquello que se volca espiritualmente sobre el material. Este disco es simplemente oscuro y a la vez lo mas fresco y potente que escuche de la banda, un trabajo que ha quedado a gusto para la banda. La musica tiene su propia edad y nos cuesta entender las cosas a veces con 15 o 16 años... algunas personas crecen y mantienen una mentalidad adolescente, o simplemente se mantienen atados a un juego comercial y masivo que no les permite ver el trabajo y la escencia de cada produccion. Propagandhi representa el trabajo que conlleva cada banda independiente, que se esmera por mostrar una nueva vision del mundo, un simple espacio para reflexionar que no podemos encontrar en todos lados, y menos en los medios masivos.
Mi hermano, no lo pudiste decir de mejor forma. Yo pensaba igual, y me di cuenta que lo que se ve en cada disco de Propagandhi es su nivel de madurez. Este disco es increíble, las letras, la música, un nivel más arriba de complejidad. Me gusta porque ellos no quieren que los encierren en solo tipo de tendencia... es una banda que evoluciona, que estudia su entorno y cada disco que publican lo hacen con mejor calidad y profundidad que el anterior. En mi opinión "Failed States" es el mejor trabajo que han hecho y uno de los mejores discos de Punk que he escuchado, siempre va a estar entre mis favoritos y, como toda la música que escucho, posiblemente pase inadvertido para la mayoría de las personas.
I can't believe most of the comments here, on a Propagandhi song is half trolling half butthurt. I got a couple things to say here
1)To those who want Propagandhi to sound like NOFX forever like on How To Clean Everything, forget it, the band HATES that album and only maybe play Stick That Fucking Flag here and there nowadays cos it's the only good song on that album if you've grown up since 1993.
2)Nobody in Propagandhi is gay. There was a gay member in the band before (John K Samson, he left almost right after the recording of Less Talk, More Rock in 1996. They were basically fucking with your mind back then, Chris might have bi tendencies, but, I wouldn't hold that against him. Basically all he's saying is that if you jerked off with a friend at 12 years old, you don't have to be traumatized by it, it's part of many humans growing up to do such things, even if women only sexually attract one later in life.
3)Propagandhi are NOT pop punk. The only pop punk songs they had were those written by that bassist who left in 1996 and "This Might Be Satire"...ya know the kind of song that pissed all over bands like Greenday and Blink. At first they were melodic hardcore punk/straight up hardcore punk (on even earlier stuff and that split on Recess Records with I Spy) then incorporated some thrash and prog metal. Anybody calling them pop punk just heard that they were on fat wreck back then, assumed they were like all fat wreck bands (which suck, except early Lagwagon, which was a mix of thrash and old school melodic hardcore punk on their first 3 albums).
4)Yeah, the guys are on Epitaph now, so what, Agnostic Front used to be on Epitaph, tons of legit bands used to be or are on Epitaph. They basically got rid of their Fat Wreck contract after Potemkin City Limits. This is why Supporting Caste in 2009 was released by "Hassle" records. If you know their style of humour, it means at the time they had absolutely no label. Look on discogs.com, click on Supporting Caste, click that Hassle label, it links to only that Propagandhi album. In a perfect world (which ironically they say is a total fantasy here), they'd be releasing their shit themselves but lose all the distribution. So Epitaph, which is managed by a pretty cool guy who isn't a joke in itself like fat mike, Brett Gurewitz, just helped out a band with a very similar vibe and messages to his own band (Bad Religion).
I doubt this will stop the retarded comments, but at least it might inform the youngin's around here about what these trolls are claiming : it's all bullshit. I'm amazed a song like this with such great lyrics is barely even discussed here. You know what they say about YT comments but I expect more of people who actually bother clicking 'Gandhi songs. Fuck.
Well said.
In an interview asking that maybe some people love it because of how it's a classic and how it was one of the first albums that "woke them up". Chris said : Yeah, I guess you could see it that way, the only thing I'd change was that fake british vocals thing I was doing then (it sounded better on their split with I Spy on Recess Recs for some reason. But yeah, I have the original cassette album, my dad had bought me a high quality but only dual deck tape, no cd, at least I had one on my pc, but yeah, we all need a kick in the asssssssssssssssssssssssss. Hate Muscle Myth Etiquette might be the best song on it with Stick That Effin flag on it, because the massive sarcasm was balanced with poignant lyrics. And yeah for a so called pop punk album (I'd say LTMR is even more pop punk, but the good songs are so good that it grew on me way back. I think if we're thinking old Propagandhi, Less Talk More Rock deserves more praise. Pc Fascist, Nailing Descartes To The Wall, Less Talk More Rock, Rio De San Atlanta, Manitoba, The State-Lottery, A People's History Of The World and well all songs except Gift (the first John only song is alright) makes it a lot more cathartic even if so short.
*****
It's pretty good, but has some skippable songs, and later they figured that trading vocals should not be so often and mostly sing their own songs. Also Todd's vocals aren't as amazing as on Potemkin and later on, but yes of course, its an amazing album that TETA, It was my soundtrack as I drove south to Quebec City for the Summit of the Americas in April 2001 where they probably discussed the final details of 911..."murderers walk our streets, their weapons are desk pens policies, PR campaigns paid by the spoils of war, against the lazy shiftless population of the poor!!! THIS SYSTEM CANNOT BE REFORMED!!!" Hopefully I don't have to say where this is from.
+severed111 They played a lot of songs from How to Clean Everything at a show at The Echoplex about a year ago. On their Failed States tour. I have grown up since '93 and still think it's their best album.
+Jacob Fox I too like it, but it's nowhere their pinnacle. The song Supporting Caste destroys everything on it, and then some. They played some of the old stuff more to sell those 25th anniversary copies pretty much. I called them fucking pussies when the crowd was yelling for the encore song to be "Ska Sucks" and demanding Bullshit Politicians, you could see they agreed with me but Jord went....well we're a democratic band...I guess". Hah. Also, Note To Self, Failed States, This Is Your Life, Last Will And Testament, Mate Un Moris..., Fuck The Border, Today's Empire, Tomorrow's Ashes, Bullshit Politicians, The Flensing of Sandor Katz, The Banger's Embrace, The Funeral Procession, Potemkin City Limits, Fixed Frequencies, A Speculative Fiction, Die Jugend Marschierst(America's Army), Iteration, Purina Hall Of Fame, Ordinary People Do Fucked Up Things When Fucked Up Things Become Ordinary, Rattan Cane, Status Update, Fedallah's Hearse, Lotus Gait, Duplicate Keys Icaro (an interim report), Incalculable Effects, Devil's Creek, Ladies' Night In Loserville, Back To The Motor League, Ego Fum Papa are all songs vastly superior to all songs off HTCE, except for the 2 timeless classics Haillie Sallasie (and the best version of that song is on the I Spy split in '95 2 years later as Hailie Does Hebron) and Stick That Fucking Flag, the rest if mostly forgettable. Anti-Manifesto I have heard too often, same with Hate, Myth Muscle Etiquette which were solid back then but don't stand the test of time. They're kinda reverse Lagwagon, when Derek and Sean left Lagwagon after Hoss, they had the massive letdown known as Double Plaidinum, I'll never get sick of Trashed, Duh and Hoss. I don't care about DP, Let's Talk 'bout feelings, Blaze is half great half embarassing, but the great songs are really great, Resolve should have been an EP...My Older Brother Used To Listen To Lagwagon EP is awesome and so is Hang, but nowhere near the amazing power that was Joey's polished but still pretty damn punk voice in Trashed, Derek's amazing drumming, and the best guy to put with Chris (the tall one), Sean, when these guys left, they almost broke up.
The only thing I miss from Propagandhi are John's back vocals sang at the same time as Chris'' like on The State-Lottery. (btw I love Less Talk, More Rock, much better and smarter than HTCE). But I do own the vinyl of HTCE as I am a completist, I've listened to the How to clean a Couple 'o Things 7" to hear the studio version of Pigs Will Pay more often though hah.
You didn't grow up regarding real world issues is mostly what I meant.
Awesome
Still think this and Cognitive Suicide are the best songs they have ever written. I didn't think they could top PCL but they did with SC, and now they somehow topped that with this album. Ricidulous.
Wait till you hear Victory Lap. Fucking amazing
Victory Lap is good... but Failed States is the best album I've ever heard
After listening to everything, I still think PCL is my fav, closely followed by SC and Victort lap. Failed states is amazing, but takes so long to grow on me.
Great job guys!
Muito bom n conhecia a banda, to curtindo muito.. \,,/
29 years in human history: the total duration of time without war. What the fuck am I acting so surprised for? If I had a dime for every single idiotic time I felt like strangling some goof on the street, I could afford a business class seat on fucking Soyuz 13. Straight sandwiched between Tom Hanks and Lance Bass. Already fighting, nowhere near space. Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek. Perfect world. Fantasy
what an opener
This. Is. Awesome.
It's like thrash riffs, infused with punk.
I love thrash. I'm meeh on punk.
The riffs make it worthwhile.
try A Wilhelm Scream
So fuckin good!
Portage la prairie!!
i really want to know your opinion on this bro. punk might still be alive as a sound, but i dont think its still here in any real force as a cultural movement. and i'm still trying to dissemble whether our generation is going to be the start of the end of the legacy of American mass political apathy, or what sheldon s. wolin called the "inverted totalitarianism"
This comment deserves a goddamn medal.
Fine Rock Music. Just heard about this guy from watching Religulous, with Bill Maher. Stopped the movie immediately to hear what this guy has to say.
Unfortunately, although I enjoy the music, I cannot understand a word. The dude is drowned out by drums and thrums. He should consider a slightly different mix perhaps. I just want to be able to hear the words, myself, but the words also make a song more memorable. You have to catch the lyrics for a song to be catchy, after all. ;)
Propagandhi inst rock
I can pretty clearly hear the words
And why must we argue over something stupid?
First!
There is so much invalidity in your argument that I just need to show it to my Philosophy proffesor and he'll shake his head then give us an hour lecture on how to not argue like you. Good god man I think I need to review my university notes after reading your comment
sometimes its ok to use bad words. appropriate even
Lol not my problem
this is not even close like old propagandhi! this suck!
Yes, let's go back to generic skatepunk. Actually, let's not.
People that say this shit obviously never appreciated the progressive rhetoric in the first place. It’s been how long dude? They grew up and got better. Go dance to some pop punk that doesn’t make you feel anything sad :(