What QUALIFIES Someone As An ARTIST?
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I'm going to an art school that believe that fine arts and contemporary arts are the only "true" art forms. As a student doing the illustration course this sometimes makes me feel like I'm less important than people who produce that kind of stuff. And then, when I find myself in such a museum I just think its a waste of time in which I'd be rather drawing.
But when I'm reading a comic, which is an absolute masterpiece and gives me way more feelings through the story and the way it's drawn, I realize most comics or animations are not art to most people. But to me they are.
You aren’t alone in feeling that way - and I have no idea where that attitude comes from
But it’s absolutely not true - if comic art isn’t as “true”’as fine art, then I guess Frank Frazetta and John Howe and Alan Lee and Brian Froud and countless other legends aren’t “real artists” either
Which we both know is nonsense ;)
Don't think of it as one or the other, think of it as a continuum.
Maybe you're more towards illustration, maybe more towards fine art.
Do you. Let others worry about classification.
It took me a long time to appreciate expression, our tastes change with our experience, more experience means more to draw from for our 'art'.
I felt your pain, I went through a curriculum at a university that didn't hold illustration high on a mantel, but I pursued it anyway. I felt less important as well, like what I was making was less of an art form, but in the end, it wasn't. I worked my ass off, leveled up artistically, made something for my grandfather (who passed away years before), and connected with people in ways I didn't think would be possible with my comic. Keep grinding my friend, your art, your message will reach people so long as you do it.
That is total BS. Especially if you look at how contemporary art actually works. I was at an exhibition for the absolute UP and comers of the contemporary art scene. It was totally whack. I was shocked how much useless stuff was there. Literally useless. Turned out each of those artists where acquainted with the biggest name sin contemporary Photography so... Yeah... Connections over everything. I rather touch a heart of a teenager with a comic than the wallets of some wierd fella that looks for a way to wash money
I did went to an art school...whilst im okay with animation (we have a minor animating class), and design (im the one in class who are good at cartoons and anime, got high mark on this) but they mostly focus on realism art that i dont really excel...while i do love it, i prefer drawing cartoons etc etc
Again your words are so very helpful, I appreciate all that you're doing. Cheers man
Back at you Ahmed, and thank you for the kind words :)
Hey Ahmed, what brush did you use to write this comment? :D
Man this one spoke to me. You know I forgot to express myself because I focused on the technical skills so much. I just went back to actually express myself in my art a few weeks ago. And I wondered why I hated my art so much. It was empty that's why. (and I also couldn't vent through my art) Thank you. You opened my eyes again. (I just started to fall back in technicalities so hearing this really helped.)
I had the exact same awakening reasently as a product of my portfolio review. :)
Damn this was a great video! You have a great voice for narration as well.
Nice painting Adam! I love the atmosphere and composition.
Why thank you Trent! I’m happy I managed to salvage it
Such a relief to hear the opinion of a professional about contemporary art galleries and shows. I had a feeling that im not good enough artist to understand the depth of those "artworks"
Thanks for the quality topic again Adam
Once in Art school I casualy called myself an artist, I got then scolded by my teacher who said I don't qualify to call myself that.
Same...one of them was also like, dont sign your canvas blablabla.and then they go around and sold some of thr good students work (good as if they excel in realism)
That sucks man. Don't let it get you down.
i have never laughed so much at an art talk in my life....that part where you want to the museum was really hilarious....got me laughing to tears. thanks for these art talks. i recently found your channel, now i have it on any time i draw.
Before starting the video I'd like to give my 2 cents : An artist is someone who creates, interrogates the world, express and present themselves to the world in their glorious vulnerability.
They also work in the entertainment/creative industry too I suppose.
Let's see how it compares with your views, that'd be quite interesting for sure
I am someone who draws, paints, and inks - and always have - but don't consider myself an 'artist'.
I also write... creating characters and stories... but don't consider myself a 'writer'.
I'm just a story-teller, that uses whatever means required to do the job.
get your name out there
Contemperary artists make work that doesn't require sacrifice, hardship and self discipline, and it shows in their art. Thank you for your words because they hit home very truely. I can understand why many young artists might get discouraged with pursuing their passions.
This one really hit home. As a concept art and illustration student at a school that educates both illustrators and and fine artists, I often fin myself caught in between the two. Not as emotionally expressive as the fine arts students, not as obsessed with technical growth as my classmates. Then, at a croquis session just before Christmas, my teacher remarked on my way of tying my sketches together: "Wow, you're a story teller today", to which I replied "No, I'm always a story teller". And since then, that will be my answer.
Thanks, Adam, for these wonderful talks. They are encouraging and motivating, and make me able to reflect upon things in my artistic existence that might have been nudging me but I could just never put to words. And they also make my before-breakfast sketching sessions even better.
The last part of this almost made me cry somehow. Everytime I drew something my friends and family complimented on me for having created something nice but I could not and still can't see anything good about it. My technical skills suck so much and it always frustrates me that my art doesn't come out as I want to. I know that I am an artistic person deep down because I have also loved playing the guitar for years and loved writing novels or fanfictions with focus on good writing. But still, after one year of much drawing practise I just did not improve as much as I'd wished to. I looked up your mentorship info and thought about maybe apply for it but I am too afraid because my art is relatively low-level (like, I can draw more or less but my coloration sucks and there are certain things like environments or mechs I am just bad at)... Plus, my age depresses me, haha. I have been drawing for my whole life but doing it with the mindset to become an artist has only struck me last year with 26.
In general: I love your videos! They are very inspirational and nice to listen to =)
26 here as well and I have a very similar story to yours. Wasn’t till this year I started wanting to take my art seriously despite being into art my whole life. You’re not alone.
At the end where the question was asked 'are you an artist?' I, i don't know?
i cannot get the right feeling and all i get from myself is doubt, confusion and questions and making me tear up a bit of 'what if i'm not. '
All i'm able to tell is that at first i just wanted to make cool images but now, after some time letting that idea simmer, and listening to Adam and making me tear up on his videos as i feel like hes reading me like a book, i want to make stories, illustrations and concepts for games. The latter is what i wanted from the start when i wanted to get more serious.
But i've come to the realization for a while now that, even a concept idea can have it's own story. And thanks to Adam, i think what i want is to make a story and make people feel something in set story of what i wanted them to feel. A happy story, a calm story or even something i've noticed i tend to make when making something, drawings that tend to go towards uncertainty and the unknown, dread and the challenges that have to be faced whatever the cost. These feelings i have frequently can be shown with art but i simply do not know how.
I once did a drawing with a monster coming out of someones back at a moment where i felt severly anxious and that was probably the last time i tried to express(which was around last year if i'm not mistaken.)
As i am currently typing this, maybe it's worth to try expressing my feelings again. I already had an idea for something that recently came to mind but, that might be the very thing how i am currently feeling.
Perhaps i am an artist, but i am doubting this as i said earlier on how i tend to feel.
Thanks for the video's Adam, they really are making me cry. Not from sadness, but from happynes and feeling like i'm home and welcomed with a warm and lovely heart. I am so incredibly happy i found this channel on accident i cannot put it into words.
haha, Adam, I hope that during your mentorship, you use the voice/character you used @ 25:04...Lol. That classic pompous critic was spot-on. :) Thanks for sharing your story.
My belief is as follows; If one need's a church with preachers telling them how to be spiritual, they're doing it wrong. If one need's an art gallery with "curators" to tell them what art is, they're doing it wrong. If one needs a promise of a divine reward as motivation to act and do good in this world, they're doing it wrong. If one need's a gym in order to get their exercise and get fit, they're doing it wrong. If one need's an authority to tell them how to think, and if one needs an institution to validate their "precious, unique feelings" through confirmation bias....Then they're just missing out on being a free-thinking human being who is authentic. Be your own person. Don't let pomp and circumstance, or the "media circus" and "cult of personality" dictate how you think. Educate yourself, but remain a skeptic. Allow yourself to explore and be open to everything, yet always be skeptic of the "prophets, faith healers, art curators, critics, snake-oil salesmen, and leeches" who've never accomplished anything other than create their own circle to jerk. Strive to think freely, feel freely, and ultimately, open yourself up to the vast beauty, wonder, terror, and "awe-inspiring" grandeur that nature and the universe has provided to us all around...For free. The best things in life are free. Let nature be your authority, for it never falters, for it is Chaos and Order in harmony, like all life should hope to attain.
Or...Ya know. You could stop caring what some random dude with a keyboard (and far too much free time) has to say in CZcams internet comments. But hey, I'm no authority. I'm just a number. Another voice "screaming" into the void :). I'll probably read my own rambling in 3 months and be like "Wow, that a pompous douche this guy is!....Oh wait, that was my comment". Have fun, make friends, enjoy the journey, free-think, meditate, take care of your body, and I think eventually, with diligence, the authentic version of an "artist/human being" gets born. We're all artists. We're all creators. We're all designers. Whether you're making businesses, making children, making motorbikes, making welds on a rig, raising livestock, making families; we're all leaving a mark on the world. I think artists, and those that call themselves one, simply understand we do more good being positive energy, than we do being negative energy. As Adam said, there are COUNTLESS ways to express yourself as an "artist", so just don't be a poseur. Define what you think a good person should be, and then really work hard on being that person. Then forgive yourself for making mistakes because your'e human..and we're allowed to make mistakes. Just don't...hurt people with intention. Skate Straight, brothers and sisters, we've all got lots of work ahead of us :)
I kind of think that design and art can overlap. A -good- design is going to make you feel something and have story melded into it.
29:45 that’s the same way I used to tell a former piano student who could read music that there’s a difference between decoding the dots on the page and making what the composer has written alive. You can definitely tell the difference.
34:52 wow that is exactly my life......a closet artist. It hurts to keep all that pent up in a closet. 😔
I often find people's definitions of art and artists excruciating, but you touched on something pretty great here. I am thoroughly enjoying binging all the seasons of Adam Duff right now and screaming into the open quarry of your comment sections in the meanwhile. Woohoo! Just ignore me. I can't help myself.
Man this was awesome. I just discovered your channel and just subbed. I don't know why it took so long to come across your channel considering I've been watching Marco Bucci , Proko , Swatches and all the other art channels for a couple of years now. Thank you for your words and thoughts. I've rediscovered my love for fantasy illustration in my 30s after a 10+ year career in the automotive world. I used to eat , breathe and live art in my teens and always dreamed of becoming an illustrator in the 90s. Gave up that dream after high school after some bad advice. Now nearly 20 years later I'm way behind in skill and knowledge but its speeches like these that inspire me and keep me going. It especially spoke to me when you mentioned having so much emotion and wanting to convey it through art but not quite having the technical skill to do so yet. That's exactly me right now. Thanks Adam
So, I'm a social scientist by training (sociology and psychology) and artist by heart. I tried applying to art schools and it never worked out and I always felt that I wasn't good enough. But then I've read a few very eye opening works by Pierre Boudieu and other great sociologists. So, according to sociology, the art field is very conservative. Since art in the modern day was always entitled to standing a bit outside social norms it was, basically, also not as much a subject to the reformation of societal norms and values and is still kinda stuck in the 'old way' of doing things. The 'artist' has to conform to certain ideas of what an artist is supposed to be, the same applies to what is considered 'art'. And because 'fine art' was decoupled from 'mass media art' by the field leaders, it has also decoupled the whole flied from a much needed paradigm shift. So, in our modern society it's a pretty non-functional field. The gatekeepers only accept a very specific type of creator in their mids and thus limit very strictly what 'fine art' is for the next generation. But there's also criticism from outside. From people that feel like there's something wrong - viewers of and contributors to art as a whole. So, there is also an art community outside of the institutionalised 'fine art' community. And just because the establishment doesn't like what you do, doesn't mean it isn't art.
Wow...well, now Im a little afraid that I might've been lead astray a little bit, not by anybody else but due to me just focusing on certain things that don't REALLY help me in terms of making the scenes with my Characters meaningfull. Im a cartoonist/character designer and I love to make stories with the pieces I make up, however I've been producing them so fast that I never realised until now that, I practically dont pour even a smidge of emotion into it anymore.
I felt like a borderline slave to my own pencil and social media for so long you have no idea, so thanks for kinda wacking me with a metaphorical bell and giving me a wake up call :^)
Soul, authenticity and integrity. In my opinion.
The way you speak, Adam, to me is Art.
Oh my. I just gotta right in the middle of this video. When you’re talking about the gallery. I laughed out load You have cheered me and lightened me and made me sigh many sighs of relief. Have been listening while making my art and I can’t thank you enough for the way you are transforming the tired , dreaded, washed out feeling I reached A true , true, truuuuu thanks 😇
Listening to you sharing your experiences makes me break into tears every time, i felt i'm walking in the path u been thru, i'm glad to find someone as a mentor and also a life coach even if u never know who i am. Thank you so much Adam.
For years I doubted myself as an artist because there a lot of industry things that I didn't or couldnt do. But thanks to this talk, I got the reassurance I needed to be able to confidently say that I am indeed an artist. Thank you for this, Adam.
25:14 Thank you so much, couldn't agree more. Art needs to speak for itself.
This video has brought me so much joy and peace. You understand the mind of an artist which I myself have been dealt. Thank you from the the long road ahead. 🤝
Thank you for saying this, and all the rest of your wisdom, that you share. I’m so glad that I found you. 💜
This content is top tier
Haha, I think you went a bit too overboard and salty wit the modern art rant, and this is coming from someone who really doesn't like that type of art either !...By the way, great job with that voice at 25:04 followed by "just shut up!": I literally replayed that part like 5 times, it had me in tears! XD.
That type of art might not be our thing, but the fact it manages to appeal to other people does mean it works as art, right?
While some people might just be "pompous arrogants" who consume and produce modern art, without really understanding it, because it's a "thing", I also genuinely believe some people love modern art and are very authentic and honest in that passion.
In some way, even the fact that type of art pissed you off means it elicited an emotional response from you! :)
Most of the time I am totally unresponsive and unimpressed by modern art, but sometimes the "weirdness" and "oddity" of it created a strange feeling of uneasiness and discomfort.
I sometimes get that feeling with some movies, the ones that are clearly odd and strange: Some David Lynch's work, like his short-movies Rabbits, or Possession by Andrzej Żuławski.
Not my cup of tea, but from time to time, why not ?
Lol that’s a very valid point - it definitely did elicit an emotional response from me
But eliciting an emotional reaction, and touching someone emotionally is that fine line that these aforementioned “posers” walk constantly
What gets me so salty is the fact that they’re trying to shortcut or bypass true and authentic talent with “hacks” and”excuses”
I can step on your foot and make you cry - that’s effortless yet it makes you react
And then I can debate with you about your definition of art as a result of it
Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL I’m curious what you think about Jackson Pollocks work. Without knowing who the artist is, what he’s been through or why he made it it’s just splattered paint and fail to see how that could speak for itself without words next to it
You’re such an inspiration and a blessing, Adam! Thanks for creating and sharing all this content. 🙏🏼
I love your videos, you give so much good info and you narrate really well. A long time ago i quit doing blender because i felt discourage with my technicall skills that i thought i couldn't do art. Then watching videos i start to learn more about not just the technicall stuff but more about the feelings, i think that everyone has an artist inside it's just some people get to develop how to capture it. i think that art isn't about the technicall stuff, art is about making anything artfull. it could be grabbing a chair and doing something to it to make it more beautiful its about your emotions left on something
Thanks Adam. I haven't had the pleasure to further refine my technical skills but my first love of art came through drawing. I loved to draw for a very long time. I still do and I still can. Then I picked up the electric guitar and singing but I can only express so much with that and the passion in that did not drive me as far as drawing's passion did to help me improve in that. I still enjoy guitar and singing for fun. I liked writing for my own enjoyment for a little while and often accompanied it with my drawings thinking up stories and plots that I think would be inspiring to see in a videogame or a theatre! That I have not fully realized but is still a flickering spark in my heart to do...I discovered modeling my clothes next. I am now inspired by fashion, film, photography and music and have since been pursuing this specific aesthetic that brings it all full circle that I see is improving but I can't quite grasp! I pursue it everyday trying to put my finger on it, but I can't ever nail it! ….But in a weird way...I don't ever want to really find it...I think I am in love with the chase....I've never really claimed to be an artist, but I've always claimed to be inspired and passionate about all these things...After 35 years of dreaming can I claim that I am an artist?
Regardless I was uplifted by your talk.
Oh god "She was love". I know excatly what you describe. omfg i know exactly what you mean. That's the reason i do creative things. Something in it allows me to express myself in an extremely integrous way which can sometimes even bring tears to my eyes. Hell yes dude!
Exactly what I needed to hear this week. 💕
Hoooolllyyyyy shit Adam, the feels. I used to work at a Contemporary Art Museum and it was fucking hell. The ridiculous garbage hung up on the walls every two weeks was insane, especially considering the price tag on each. I'm actually pretty sure I saw the step girl you were talking about too.
Listen, do I get that it speaks to someone? Sure. And in fact I pride myself on saying/thinking that [almost] everything, in some way or form, is art. When a surgeon gets into her flow state, perfectly performing, that is an artist. When a welder fixes a gate, that is his use of his art. But taking out tonsils and performing brain surgery are in fact very different. Spot welding for minor repairs and welding together a 10-storey tall fountain fixture are altogether different. One is fixing for utility - a quick cut, some ice cream, you're done. A two inch weld, 50 bucks please, buh bye. The other is much more like creating anew, making a sizable difference -- a 10-storey fountain tower will catch the eye, and if a doc saves your life in brain surgery, you'd likely never forget their name (unless they mess up your cortex).
The same can be said with art, I believe. When I worked at the CAM, I saw so many pieces that had little-to-no thought in them, they were just made to make money. It seemed to me the creators didn't think "I want the idea of movement through love to bitterness and back present in this golden foil on a concrete slab," but more like "yeah, this'll look like something those rich Santa Barbara fucks will pay 10k for and hang up in their foyer."
And as you said - if you need to read a novel to understand the piece, they didn't do their job. We had special order plaques that we used for extra long summations of artworks. 12 inches long. 12 inches of 8pt font explaining an art piece. Why would you need to get more information about the piece from any source other than the piece?!
I'm no huge fan of dance -- Ive tried, as my girlfriend loves it, but the only style I'm really interested in is hiphop dance. Regardless, when it is done well I don't need anything describing the dance, what it means, etc; I know, I can feel and see it in their movement. I don't need a goddamn essay telling me what they are trying to show to me... Because they actually put in the work and showed me.
...I'm apparently not an artist. Probably never will be, going by this. Expression in anything just doesn't really come to me. I always believed that if you created something that at least one of the five senses could enjoy, it was considered art. But this whole "feeling" thing doesn't make sense to me. Like "how do I know when I meet the right person?" "Oh you'll just know, you'll feel it." Same thing with careers, everyone says "you'll know, you'll feel it" but what if it's nothing? Like, if I don't make things that make people feel something, like just creating a character, and they don't feel anything from it...do I fail? Am I empty? This "art" journey has always confused me. I WANT to create things from my imagination. But my mind goes blank a lot. It kinda just tears me up because it's something I want really bad but everywhere I go it just says "it won't work, give up." So much resistance. "You have to be born with something to be a true artist" is something I've struggle with too. So..is it genetic?
Think Imma just say "fuck it, I'm done" and do whatever I want. Trying to find answers is just extremely confusing and I just get more lost.
I think we both swallowed the red pill. I got the same feeling from the video. I'm sad someone else felt the same way, but kinda relieved that i'm not the only one.
Adam said at one point that you might be a designer then, which is hopeful. Understanding that will give you something to work towards. I think, going by Adams words, we're designers, wether we like it or not. I totally understand your point about creating something from imagination and mind going blank.
Maybe ask this? "What made you create art in the first place?" You got interested in illustration from somewhere, go back to that.
But then again.. Looking on the bright side, if you like to draw, do it, and keep doing it. If not, try to find another means of expressing yourself. Just showing interest in this kind of thing means you want to express something, wether it's feelings or a pleasant design
Or.... Don't stress out and take a break. Hope all this will work out for you.. for both of us
@@GlazeAndMaren I'm not sure what I am. I always have had this issue of finding my place or fitting in, feeling like "yeah, this is where I belong." It's weird and hurtful to hear someone say "you can't be this because it's not in you" since I don't even know myself, and maybe that's the problem with people like us. It's hard to believe that you HAVE to have something you're born with to truly be an artist. Maybe sometimes people have an affinity for it, but there have been others that have learned to do art without ever having anything in the beginning. Before as a kid I never had issues imagining things, but as an adult it's much harder, like I lost something precious.
As for what got me started, ironically it was video games and concept art, but it's such a competitive field. But you're right, maybe we should both just keeping doing what we want to do and see where it goes from there. Maybe we're just black sheep in this community of artists and just have a different path to take that's more difficult and complex. I do wish us both the best of luck and maybe one day we'll find our way through this
@@_Nyxus_ Hey, if you wanna.. Feel free to join my discord server. I'd be happy to chat more about this with you discord.gg/aPQEc5P
oof that track in the beginning had me feeling things
I have all of these feelings I want to potray... But it just feels impossible to put them into an image with my painting knowledge of 2 years. It makes me feel like I'm not a true artist, as I can't put my feelings into a painting. Yet I have all the images in my mind on how to potray it. But I don't have the skill to put it into a painting.
But that will not stop me! As I know for a fact that drawing, painting. Is the one thing that really makes me just relax these days, I find happines in doing it. And nobody will ever take that away from me.
I can absolutely relate to this kind of modern/abstract museum thing. I had to go to several of those during my school years and I was always mildly confused why someone would call it art.
About the other part: I guess artists need to be more in touch with their emotions because a lot of times it is the fuel that keeps them going to do art. (I hope this makes kind of sense 😂)
From one artist to another - it makes perfect sense :)
I feel so good hearing you said that, i really dont have the (lets say) authority to say something about that contemporary art (in general i mostly dont like it, there have been exceptions), some of those paitings look so generic, like made without intent, and when they have "untitled" name im like "really"? Once i asked something like "why is that so recognized? (talking about a contemporary painting) to an art student, and she told me "anyone can do it, but that person made it first". At that moment i kept silent because i wasnt sure how to respond to it. Now with some years later and with a bit more experience about art i think of that day and how i should ve said "YES! Noone did it before because there is a f***** reason no to do that, is garbage!!!". Anyway Its a relief to hear you say something like that, seems im not totally crazy after all xd. Thanks for doing this videos Adam they are really helful in so many levels. Wish you the best!
Aw. I love contemporary art (or rather conceptual art). I'm more of an illustrator/animator and contemporary isn't my thing, but I also know a lot of artists for whom that is their passion and the way they express themselves, and I wouldn't call them a douchey poser compared to me just because I can render a face better. But I get why lots of people hate it. (I personally hate DADAism so damn much god) But as far as I'm concerned, it's all fine. Even if you don't like it, it moves other people and makes them think, so it's art to them. And I think there's no need to compare conceptual art to representational art because they're completely different things. It's like comparing idk cooking and bartending. The results of both end up in your body and you get them at the same place, but they really have very little to do with each other. Contemporary artists have no business telling other types of artists their work is inferior, and I think the same is true the other way around.
Really digging this. Its also helpful to see how you use reference in your work, thats something I struggle with
Thank you, and definitely - reference is one of the core points of a professional piece
Well, I definitely have an artist in me. Though I think I am designer first, artist second. I love being apart of the world building process; I'm not so big on conveying emotion or a feeling (Although I'd love to do mood painting at some point during my career). I prefer the storytelling aspect. It's what put me on a path towards concept art... er design? I find myself really loving the prop design and environment building. That whole idea of a picture speaking a thousand words; but in this case telling a story about the world a prop, vehicle or structure resides in. What it tells you about the people, etc...
In a lot of cases, especially nowadays, artists are looking for actual ways to make a stable-ish income. And that requires a lot more (often times) than just conveying a message or a feeling. It requires working towards an end product to be sold in some way. However because its so "industry" a lot of the starving artist types will act all pretentious and refuse to accept it as art. I think its a real shame though. Especially coming from contemporary artists... Like I'm sorry but the worlds I help build will bring joy to who knows how many people. What kind of joy will a shoe glued to a canvas bring people? I mean even I want to say "to each his own.." but at a certain point it just comes out as "to each h--- wtf is that?! But why?"
thanks, i needed this.
i love you
I’m studying to become an architect and realising that what is lacking from the community is that many architects do not have the souls of an artist anymore ... look at sagrada familia and tell me that isn’t art. We need more architects who are artists again.
WHOA, I wasn't aware you were going to have Sir David Attenborough himself making a guest appearance at 25.01.... tre cool ;)
Thank you!
Great video! This reminded me of some art classes and projects I did in college, and got me wondering about what my work conveys to people. It also got me reflecting on a lot of things. My friends are starting careers with their art, while it's always been an outlet and way of communication for me. I'm not sure if I should pursue art as a career or just keep it as a creative outlet. I'm also not sure I want to go back to college, as it's so expensive. Actually, your classes are something I've been thinking about. I'd like to level up my skills as an artist even if I'm just doing it for fun.
Honestly that kind of choice is usually made for you - your sheer desire to pursue it professionally gets the better of you
But even if you decide not to - there’s nothing stopping you from training to as professional a level that you want
Adam, These topics you bring us are amazing, these are the words of experience flowing through emotion. I've struggled with the identity as being an artist because i thought i had to be a purist, i like design too, each one has a different language but the "accent" is unique to each person and it's great to explore both, thanks for highlighting a lot of facts about being an artist. After all it requires patience with the crafts and "knowing thyself". Thanks for your concrete words, they are invigorating.
Well you are - through and through
But I still understand your concerns, I too aim to be my most authentic self, which is why an artistic career doesn’t only feed your talent, but your character as well :)
Hey Adam, whenever you mention an artist, would you please show some of his arts? Because I don't always know who you are talking about and it's paintings
Some nice people can help spell " John Hawl?" which Adam mentioned at the ending part. I must spell it wrong. I really want to see her/his work too. Thanks!!!
Douchebaggery !!
New favorite word to describe a person’s actions
Thank you :)
-Tobu Heart
Watching this video has been a truly heartwarming experience, thank you so much...
I guess I used to be an artist and for the last decade I became more of a designer and lost my artistic side.. well ok maybe not lost it. I sometimes express feelings but I repressed the artist in me. Thank you for reminding me of it. it helped me a lot
I flip flop between the two frequently - sometimes designing alone is more fun
@@AdamDuffArt Ah, hmm that's interesting. I feared (and still kinda fear) I lost my artistic self and that I am just a fake. Though my biggest problem is regressing and improving fundamentals. I used to be able to somehow get things correct without knowing fundamentals and when I tried learning them and still do I sorta lost my artistic expression and got stuck in design alone.
It'S bit weird how brain functions sometimes.
Please Is there a way to more tune myself back to artistic self somehow?
picked up the brush at 26 . Hell yes I am an artist!
I was hesitant to first watch the video; many channels have done this "are you an artist" discussion that is so shallow that their argument boils to "if people buy your art, you're an artist", which I don't agree with. It wasn't the whole picture. But then I thought, it's Adam, he has a genuine mindset. And I was right.
I had given up on pursuing my art career a couple years ago, life was just a struggle after struggle. I returned to finish my degree, and it helped turn me around.
But what put the nail in the doubt coffin was visiting Beksinski gallery in Krakow. The single most impactful element of his work was the emotion that it stirred in me. I had always used art to express myself since I was young battling depression(no meds, no therapists, just me and art). When I saw Beksinski's work, I knew this is the effect I had always wanted to achieve in my own work. This reminded me that it was not something I could give up, it is who I am and if I give that up, I give up my spark. My soul so to speak.
I have been to my fair share of contemporary art museum, some in Krakow, and I know the dreadful pain of seeing emotionless work, but the only ones that struck a cord with me were the ones with meaning and a soul behind it. There were a few works that expressed Poland's issue with identity in the struggles the people have pushed through over decades. It spoke of the people identifying with nothing but their hardships; the worse of hardships you had, the more validated you were[or something to that effect]. I see this strongly within my mother who grew up in Krakow. Pieces like that stuck with me, for good reason. They had soul and emotion with real discussion.
It's about communication. What are you communicating? How are you doing it? And why? Stephen Baumann really hits this home in his video series on youtube.
35:00 damn that spoke to my soul.
As an aspiring sound designer, who actually went to school, studied audio and anything that falls in this realm. I actually hate when some people call me an "artist". Back then i did not know why i had such feelings towards that word, but now i think i have a clearer image of why i use to feel such way about it. I was wondering if by any chance there was a way to have just the audio version of these video. Take care :)
performer , singer...- artiste
visual arts - artist
your voice is like meditation
Thanks for another great video Adam. Loving this Wendigo piece by the way. :)
After hearing this I don’t know what I am. I want to able to call myself an artist. But I also love to illustrate stories. I can feel very strongly I always have been able to. If I try I can pull all my emotions out and put them into my work almost like a trance I don’t even fully think about what I am putting on the page. Whatever feels right at that moment is what I do. What drives me is the joy of creating. A light glows inside me when I create.
I am currently in University for Illustration but now I’m scared that I am not an artist. I want to be, calling myself an artist has sometimes been the only thing I feel I have. I love to draw and paint, more than anything in the world. Is being an artists slapping paint on a paper due to emotion? I don’t know... What if I’m not an artist?
why are you giving so much importance to be called artist? if you creating if you love what you do if that light glows when you create you have artist soul.
i think real artists not worry about weather they are artist or no they just do what their feelings lead them to do
and let that question to audience not to her/him self ..
@@disguiseangel182 Thanks, it’s just that art is really the only thing I’m good at, not math, english, science and the rest. Thats what I meant.
@@emmygraphicss well you are lucky bcoz already you dont have interest in any other thing easier for your path to choose..
you will get there by experience we don’t grow in one day by the time you will find yourself and you will believe yourself that you are an artist .. i never knew i have artistic soul until i was 26 or something
25:00 that impression lol
Love your videos Adam. Always remind me why it is that I am training and drawing and painting, and what I should be working on (in this case, to let inspiration flow through).
I share your thoughts on contemporary art (most of the time). I went through a ''Fine Art'' BAC at Concordia in Montreal and gods, that was utter and complete bullshit...well most of it anyways, especially the painting classes.
But then again, sometimes I can appreciate some contemporary artists who go out of their way to produce raw, heartfelt pieces. Berlinde De Bruychere's sculptures (think they had her work at the DHC gallery in MTL a few years ago), and Olivier de Sagazan's performances come to mind.
No way - we a fellow Concordian :) I studied there too, but in Classical Animation
I got my DEC in fine arts at Dawson
And yeah, bullshit exists everywhere - saw plenty of it in fine arts as well
Lovely artwork and voice ^^
Aw, thank you Nicholas :)
I played guitar for 15 years, almost half my life and before that I played other musical instruments. . . I got kinda good at the expression you are talking about hut I dont want to be a musician, I want to paint on the same level that I am as a musician. T-T
Love the video and your humor! Keep up the great work!!
lol thank you! it was partial humor mixed with a bit of salt ;)
Feels alien to me still, this stuff on feeling, when so much of my art has been on the absence their of and rarely , the extremes of my feelings
As I was listening to your idea on artist, I started to ponder about my own opinions towards it. I walk this odd line, a cloudy and vague border, where craftsmanship and artistry are very similar but the completely polar opposites. Maybe they are the exact same thing but come to the conclusion in a through a different route. Let's take design of hand made tools. If a tool is on the aesthetic side of the spectrum where the adorned detailed out weigh the function, that's bad design, it's pretty but it's it really art? Now on the opposite side of the spectrum where function completely out weighs the look, it may not be pretty to look at but it serves the purpose that tool is suppose too. So what would a meeting point of function and aesthetics be? Where the aesthetic form serves mainly for the function, ergonomic tools actually fit within this group in my opinion. As an artist and craftsman, I always ponder about how art, or the skills and techniques of it permeates the world, just got to have the eye to see it.
An odd example is from the first animated film produced by Gainax, Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise. I heard this from writer of the original founders on how the concept art was created for that movie. Due the setting being a parallel world of Earth, with it's own unique nations and how they developed. The everyday objects cannot be a mirror of our own earth, they maybe similar but have to have their own uniqueness to them. From the bolts and wrenched, the screws and screw drivers, even the minted currency were vastly different from our own taking the shape of long slender sticks with specific grooves that vending machines and kiosks would be able to recognize. Unlike Ghibli movies having the underlining "Miyazaki" stamp of design, the employed myriads of artist to design the props and environments. So that this world seems realistic with varying industry fabricating these tools and everyday objects. This seem extremely excessive for just an feature film during the 80's and probably was possible due to the youthful vigor of the staff and this to me is both mastery in artistic side and the craftsman side.
Thank you Adam for being the person touching the Elements and not simply the “tricks” and easy paths of the so called Artists. One question: what is your opinion about the Art piece that was so famous .... the banana on a piece of wall fixed with duck tape? Art?
Well I guess that means I will forever be just a pretender... oh well guess I'll just keep drawing and hope something works out...
You’re only being a pretender if you’re pretending - but if you’re being authentic in what you do - and how you feel, then you’re the real deal
Thank you again Adam :)
You’re very welcome Jana :)
Art has been reduced to the equivalent of a little league baseball tournament where everyone gets a participation trophy. Time an history determines how valid or far reaching art is. Unfortunately human lifespan is relatively short. Art that is ignored this day may just as easily end up in the masses at some future time. Art that is raved about now can be forgotten in 20 years. Art is not learned...its lived.
That british voice was priceless 😄😄
THANKYOU
I am an artist it took me this long to realize this due to my childhood.
I actually don't know if I'm an artist, I just started painting. Maybe I can become an artist but for now I don't know if I can enthusiastically talk about being one. With that said I don't think its wrong to consider myself just a student.
I love listening to your videos while I’m either drawing or doing house chores but when I’m doing chores it’s really hard to hear you clearly on a phone (even with the volume on max) is it possible to increase the audio on your videos in the future please? I’d really appreciate it :D then I don’t have to pause the video while I pack the dishwasher haha.
Thanks again Adam.
You’re very welcome :)
It's a case of the emperor has no clothes. People are afraid of not getting it of appearing stupid ..when there is nothing to get its all 'avant guard' crap. As a holder of a bachelor's in fine art I learnt that it's not talent but the ability to bull sh*t their way in. Be true to yourself that's all there is and paint and draw as much as you can... And feel
At 25:02 I swear to god he changed in his seat and became a completely different person. I heard wise man beard grow out of him as he changed. A very good performance. Ironically xD
Congrats for another great video Adam! I really want to know your toughts about what is the real meaning of doing art, what is the true essence of a piece? I'm asking this because today I see tons of artists doing stuff that dosn't bring an emotion or that 'touch', just artists trying to copy an style of render and most of the time getting frustated because they are doing something that might not be their thing, they look robots trying to get acceptable and regonized by copying others stuff that is 'mainstream' (an company arstyle or that famous artist) instead of trying to find their own style and bring some new things.
You beat me to it Elianai, I’m planning exactly that very soon - just have a few projects already in the works
@@AdamDuffArt Thanks a lot for the amazing content man, I'm very curious to know your opinion about it.
So you are saying that making grilled chese sanquiches is not art ?
that was such a good british accent haha
I'm an aspiring artist that believes that all artist should create what they love, even if it means getting out of my comfort zone, cause that's when art is at its most authentic. But I'm honestly scared that people will accuse me of being a fraud for making surreal art inspired by cartoons and anime, especially when they start calling me a fake artist. I just don't know how to combat this feeling of fear from external forces. Basically I want to be an illustrator, but I'm afraid I'll be made fun of for it.
So is art something that we establish from what other people are feeling when looking at our creation? Because that is kind of what I get from this....
Thanks Adam. Very though provoking.
24:59 That was really good actually xD
25:00 was so perfect omfg😂 I choked on my saliva
art
noun
noun: art; plural noun: arts; plural noun: the arts
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
wow you figured it out. congrats, genius.
@@Cons-Cat glad you can read
i really like the video but makes me question what do you think about people making fan art. because that what i do (and love doing)
I loved this episode, but please could you write a list of the artists mentioned so that we can look them up. Especially the names that aren't English. Thanks in advance.
Pascal Campion is one of the artists mentioned
www.deviantart.com/pascalcampion
Sure...
Pascal Campion
Zdzislaw Beksinski
Modigliani
If you liked this, listen to "How Tracy Austin Broke My Heart" by David Foster Wallace: czcams.com/video/U7BYK0hZibk/video.html he dissects the success of child tennis superstar Tracy Austin, and how she, like many great athletes, seem doomed to be unaware of the levels of mastery they reached, despite millions of fans appreciating her towering levels of skill. so maybe your greatest spiritual talent as an artist, what makes your art stand out and shake people, is something that you are entirely unaware of and will never know, but is obvious to everyone who sees you.
But what if the answer is "No" ?
there was a movie(don't remember the name of it) with one epic scene with star sick "artist" who had "artistic block" and his manager. Manager demanded work from him but "artist" like was just saying that he is in "artist" and he will do it when he does it and he needs the inspiration to make art. manager took a piece of paper, made the "artist" sign it, then took his pants off, literally put a shit on it than making a call and sold it for 150k $. and then sed to this "artist" - " When you can sell a shit, only then you can start to call your self an "artist"
you can sell crap and call your self and "artist", but that not makes crap and "art". "Art died with Renesance when everyone who wanted to take a brush and throw some random paint on some surface could start to call themselves an artist as long as they could explain it in some psychedelic way so no one understands using all possible terms like "emotions" "soul" "expression" "feelings" which is nothing to do with actual painting as a craft. and the fact that there are enuff ppl who just cause they don't want to show themselves as ignorant in "art" will applaud and shout how genius thous "artists" are.
feelings and way of expressing your self might make you an "artist" in our reality, but "Art" itself should have much higher quality standards than an emotionally signed blank piece of paper with shit on it and detailed expressing description speech how that shit speaks to your gentle soul.
P.S I do not refer it on a work of the host, it has quality in it. but this flow of thoughts was definitely from "pseudo-artist" handbook.
You’ve really touched on what a lot of this whole “art” journey is. We are essentially communicators of thought and feeling - and this resonates into any art; dance, music, painting, comedy etc.. ultimately, it doesn’t matter how you connect with others emotionally, so long as that feeling is effectively and genuinely conveyed. You can take a crap and call it art, but unless that crap has a meaningful message and an effectively means of conveying it, then it’s just that...crap.
even if you fill that crap with a meaningful message and effectively throw it in someone's face it will still feel like crap. and passing by people who would look at that will see the nothing more than crap. Journey and destination. if you take the crap at the beginning of the journey, fill it with all the meaningful messages in the world and at the destination, it still looks like crap, smells like crap ... it stays crap.
in an analogy of dance, no matter how much you love to dance and how much it means to you and how much you want to show it to others if you can't follow the rhythm, trip on every step, stumps all over your partners' feet and are unable to improve your technique.... just stop.
2nd "artist", you mentioned, I didn't find any of that improvement of the quality in his portraits and they all look like substance we talking about. I don't know his message, and looking on thous portraits I don't care to know if it has one. nothing sexy about them, unless you say that after car crash someone actually flirting and thous who see that, actually get the message.
there is enuff crap in the world and if you are a philosopher you can give that crap a meaning. but about being an artist... when you can bring Beauty into the world you can call your self an "Artist". if you can fill that beauty with meaning, you can call yourself a "Great Artist". but Beauty has to have much higher quality than a crap.
Oh bless you and your opinions for gallery contemporary art bullshit!! I agree whole heartedly. Art should not need a fucking essay on how I should read it, it should be rolling off the piece when I view it!
Beautifully said Tammy - and I whole heartedly agree
24:07 ...
Have to disagree with your conclusion. An artist does not have to convey any emotions in person at all.
who is this pascal person? a link?
Pascal campion - just google “pascal campion art”