The Proud Family Bebe Has AUTISM 🧸🧸🧸
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2023
- My reaction and review of The Proud Family Louder and Prouder episode where Bebe has autism. From Penny, Bebe and Cece to Dr.Payne and Dr.Lord, Trudy and Oscar adjust to finding this out. What did yall think of this episode? Let me know down below and please don't forget to comment, like and subscribe. Thank You!!!
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Parentification is what is happening to Penny. Her parents are unfairly using her as a third parent. It can be a form of abuse.
Agreed Penny shouldn’t be put in that situation
Imagine being on the spectrum and having Parentification at the same time. It’s definitely not a easy life.
Perfectly said ‼
Right, Penny's got enough on her shoulders.
I remember one episode where all the kids go on strike from their chores and Penny tells her parents that shes not gonna babysit for them AND WHAT DOES SHE GET? KICKED OUT. LIKE THEY KICKED HER OUT OF THE HOUSE. (all of the kids parents did that but still kinda harsh)
The oldest sibling becoming the extra parent is one of the most realistic things I've ever seen in a cartoon, and yes it seems especially prevalent in black culture.
This is facts
Absolutely ‼
In latinoamerica it's pretty common too, specially with girls of poor families
I wonder why that is.
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I think one of the reason Bebe likes having his hair cover his eyes and ears is so he doesn't get sensory overload.
It all makes sense now ‼
Some kids on the spectrum really don't like having their hair done or cut, could be this too.
@@anonymousperson4209 That was me as a kid. I didn't mind the hair cutting, but I couldn't stand having my hair brushed or done up due to a sensitive scalp. My mom wasn't very gentle either. I was always told to stfu when I complained.
@@anonymousperson4209 brooo... you and OP have a point!
@@bakedbaker9882 im having a hell of a time getting my daughter diagnosed when she shows some very obvious signs. she hates having a ponytail too. so she likes to have her hair cut to shoulder length and an undercut. her brother got the diagnosis easy.
Looks like Oscar had to learn the hard way.....
Though in some cases it takes YEARS for parents of autistic children to realize their children need extra help....
...it just took Oscar a day thankfully.
I have ADD and Dyslexia took my dad time that I needed extra help but he went strict very strict with me to be tough there sometimes my mom has to remind him I’m not like other children
The truth is a lot of adults have arrested development, meaning they can be physically 40 but mentally teenage age. Unfortunately, some parents are impossible or almost impossible to get through for that reason..
People like that don’t actually love their kids
@@Findmy_Way-Home They do but it's hard to accept. Makes them feel they did something wrong.
@@SamuraiBre They did. They had a kid when they couldn’t afford one, causing more pain on that child and even themselves 🤷🏽♀️. I don’t understand ppl who have kids Willy Nilly, that is a life your obligated to take care of. Then they want the children to look after them when they get older, gaslighting like “oh I raised you”. Congratulations, that’s what parents are suppose to do, shoo 🙄. It wasn’t an obligation for u to bring me into this hellhole and it’s not an obligation for me to take care of you, when your “on you way out”.
One of the things I love about this episode aside from how they deal with autism, is that Penny's friends are being sympathetic to her situation. From Michael pointing out that the twins aren't her kids and she shouldn't be stuck with them constantly to Maya saying she needs to stand up form herself. Even Dijonay suggests Penny should let her brother Basil watch after them.
And love that Dr. Lord let Penny express her frustration for the situation and said that her feelings were valid. Even Trudy finally realized that what's going on with Bebe isn't a burden that should be put on her oldest daughter.
Yes ‼‼‼
Sorry, I read Basil, and my mind immidietlly went to the physcological horror game Omori.
Well I’m glad that BeBe showed that he’s autistic and that’s great for the autistic community because I’m autistic as well and I never thought someone such as BeBe have autism cause I feel like the autistic community gets represented and not in a stereotypical version like u know someone with no friends and always shy and always afraid of stuff and considered dumb but I’m none of those things nether is BeBe and u can thank autism speaks for causing these stupid ideas. He’s just a baby and I personally wished his parents were more excepting. Oh and I loved that wholesome moment where Oscar finally accepts that he’s autistic. I know it may have been hard just for other parents who might end up saying something they should’ve never said. It’s about time autism gets recognized!
@@Ruby3P honestly same
@@Ruby3P I’ve seen Basil, and he seems mature enough. Besides, he and Dijoney live in a family 10
Also on the spectrum myself and I appreicate whenever a show touches up on the subject. But the Proud Family did a first which was showing a higher functioning level. Bebe doesn't scream at physical contact, can make eye contact and just handles things differently. Most only know the stereotypical representation so it's refreshing to see more levels shown.
I'm so glad that was represented here 👏🏿
Now this is how autism should be CORRECTLY represented after years of stereotypes!
I love they are showing a POC Autistic because they don't get shown at all. I have autism and I cried because it's very rare Autistic representation gets done right. My parents were more like the Mom were they fought to get me a diagnosis and help in school.
Idk if they chose these details on purpose or chose to make bebe autistic instead of cece based on these details but you'll notice that bebe is never drawn with eyes and a common symptom of autism is struggling to make eye contact. Another detail is that bebe always has had a bottle or pacifier which is a form of oral stimming. Love these relatable details!
Oh really?
I know there are some kids who are unwilling to let go of their pacifier even past the age when they're typically expected to stop using it.
I like these details though I feel a bit conflicted because I feel like both Cece and Bebe could have been autistic (since it is a spectrum and all). Boys just tend to get diagnosed more often and earlier on then girls since it's presents itself differently or in ways that experts are currently better equipped to see. Which is why I really liked the detail of seeing how the school had all kinds of students in there cause it kinda fixes that issue.
Those are great observations now that you bring them up‼
@Destiny Nah cause I hear ya, I didn't get diagnosed until I was pushing 16. There was also the factor of people around me thinking it was a phase I was grow out of or people in my community not wanting me to have that label (viewing it as being a death sentence or added difficulty upon already being black 💀). It's definitely a lot of things, studies into autism just being more centered around boys in general or girls outright being ignored regardless of if they show the same symptoms as their male counterparts or not. I was having a hard time describing how a lot of doctors just tend to view it through these particular lens/tinted glasses
@Destiny Jumping off the gender stuff, there's also just straight up different symptoms between genders too. Doctors just either don't recognize them or ignore them. It took a long time for it to finally be acknowledged bc unsurprisingly, there's a lot of misogyny in the medical world. Ever heard the stories about women having concerns to doctors only to be told they're exaggerating and then later on that thing turned out to be extremely serious? Same logic applies. It's absolutely bullshit but that's how it be.
Edit: Just realized you kinda already brought up some of the stuff I did. My bad, ignore me.
Okay, can we all just gush over how cute Cece sounds when she says "I told him don't go anywhere."
Bresha Webb is adorable as Cece.
Yes ‼ I love when they talk
Loved this episode. Autism runs in my family, and I’ve worked with autistic kids. Despite the challenges of this disorder, I’m glad this episode didn’t portray it as this big tragedy, and was able to depict it in a way that is both accurate and lighthearted. Unlike Sia’s “Music”.
Me too.
This happened to me a lot when I was younger I was stuck babysitting. The kids in the family but I instead of hanging with. My friends I wasn't allowed to see them. I told my family that I hated kids but I was still stuck with them. I feel what Penny is going threw but the real parents wants to get mad at us for being "grown" when they was already training us to be "grown" cooking cleaning, changing babies diapers and etc..
Wow. So many can relate to that. Thanks for sharing ‼
Agreed. It’s a very familiar scenario especially when you’re the oldest child. Parents get to choose when you get to be adult and when you get to be a child.
@@queenla227 hey so this isn't something I had to deal with when I wqs a kid, but from whqt it sounds liies you're an adult whwn your parents need someone to help around the house/be a third parent and you're a kid shen yoy want to practice some personal autonomy
@@raydgreenwald7788 Precisely. It is something I had to do when I was a bit younger than Penny. I had two baby siblings when I was 14. Everyone in the neighborhood knew how much time I spent with them and a few people told my parent to stop putting everything on me. She never stopped. It’s sad really. I related to a cartoon growing up. Lol.
I used to take care of my little brothers all the time and on top of that I was my mother's caretaker at the same time. she got sick with diabetes, kidney disease, heart failure, lung disease, was also morbidly obese, etc it all fall on me to make sure she got to her doctor's appointments, made sure her medication was refilled & up to date, & keep the house clean but also keep my brothers in line and out of trouble which was not easy at all especially since I was just a 17 years old boy at the time I also try to finish school was close to graduating but so much drama in my life at that time it was hard for me to even focused on my studies & my mother was in and out of the hospital all the time, to the point where we even put her in a temporary nursing home, needless to say, my brothers are always getting into trouble heck one of them has bipolar schizophrenic & takes medication for it. The point is I was taking care of my mom and brothers from the time I was 17 years old to the time of my mom's death in 2015 I'm about to be 38 years old in less than a week. Watching this episode brought up so many memories of all the shit I had to put up with simply because I was the older sibling & ends up becoming more like a parent than a normal teenager, I always feel that we as Black people put too much pressure on the youth to pick up the slack when the so-called adults in the community don't seem to see the hypocrisy of telling children to stay in a child's place then turn around & tell them to handle adult situations like taking care of the younger children when it the parent's job, look I get it sometimes the parents need help and
All that jazz but there is a limit and I have seen way too many parents and other authority figures push too much responsibility on their children and then get upset when their children rebel against them or burn out before they get a certain age, watching this episode just felt too real for me because I had to grow up faster than other children my age and it hurts, plus when I. Was a kid hell even now as an adult I struggle with a short attention span and show some signs of being on the spectrum myself and currently trying to find out and because of that I sometimes feel like something is wrong with me or feel like a failure sometimes but I realized some people are just different and work at their own pace. Fin
Bro I cried this entire episode, as both the eldest sibling and someone on the autism spectrum, it hit way too close to home. Unlike Bebe, my dad never gave in. My mom had to take me to my psychiatrist because my dad refused to believe I was “mentally retarded” (which he believed is what being autistic meant). I also related to Penny, having been woken up many times or been forced to stay home so I could do stuff for my siblings.
I don’t blame my dad for his way of thinking, my grandfather didn’t really believe in American medicine (he, my grandmother, and my aunt are immigrants). My grandfather didn’t even get my aunt glasses, and now she’s basically blind. I think my dad was a victim of generational trauma, so I don’t fully think it’s his fault for how he was.
When my mom and dad divorced, it was hard. We had the support of my mother’s grandparents and my family. When my mom met my stepdad, I finally had a father figure who endlessly supported me. And when he got sick, and eventually passed away, a lot of responsibility was put on me. I knew my mom was grieving, so I just sucked it up and helped wherever I could. I even postponed and changed my college plans so I could stay home in case I was needed! It took my months to realize I had resentment building towards my family because of the fact I never processed my grief. When my therapist said “you lost someone too” I just about bawled.
I’m still working on myself, I’m still figuring things out. But, now, I can say that I do have proper support. And I leave this post with these messages.
To the elder siblings: you may take on a lot, and your siblings may not realize it just yet, but keep being strong. You are your own person, and if you ever get tired of responsibilities, let your parents know. Communicate your feelings, don’t make the same mistake I did and hold it all in.
To those on the autism spectrum: I get the pain, I know it’s hard when people don’t understand you. But, you are skilled in other ways! Just because you’re not good at reading a room doesn’t meant you can’t read a novel in three hours (I have a really high reading speed). Find what you’re good at and flourish!
Thank you for reading 💛
Thanks for sharing this ‼🙏🏾
Thanks for sharing ur story.
I used to take care of my little brothers all the time and on top of that I was my mother's caretaker at the same time. she got sick with diabetes, kidney disease, heart failure, lung disease, was also morbidly obese, etc it all fall on me to make sure she got to her doctor's appointments, made sure her medication was refilled & up to date, & keep the house clean but also keep my brothers in line and out of trouble which was not easy at all especially since I was just a 17 years old boy at the time I also try to finish school was close to graduating but so much drama in my life at that time it was hard for me to even focused on my studies & my mother was in and out of the hospital all the time, to the point where we even put her in a temporary nursing home, needless to say, my brothers are always getting into trouble heck one of them has bipolar schizophrenic & takes medication for it. The point is I was taking care of my mom and brothers from the time I was 17 years old to the time of my mom's death in 2015 I'm about to be 38 years old in less than a week. Watching this episode brought up so many memories of all the shit I had to put up with simply because I was the older sibling & ends up becoming more like a parent than a normal teenager, I always feel that we as Black people put too much pressure on the youth to pick up the slack when the so-called adults in the community don't seem to see the hypocrisy of telling children to stay in a child's place then turn around & tell them to handle adult situations like taking care of the younger children when it the parent's job, look I get it sometimes the parents need help and
All that jazz but there is a limit and I have seen way too many parents and other authority figures push too much responsibility on their children and then get upset when their children rebel against them or burn out before they get a certain age, watching this episode just felt too real for me because I had to grow up faster than other children my age and it hurts, plus when I. Was a kid hell even now as an adult I struggle with a short attention span and show some signs of being on the spectrum myself and currently trying to find out and because of that I sometimes feel like something is wrong with me or feel like a failure sometimes but I realized some people are just different and work at their own pace. Fins
Omg I have a high reading speed as well! Especially when I’m tea invested in what I read.
I read a whole comic book in under an hour 💀 💀 💀
It made me cry honestly. Reminded me of how my son was diagnosed. His father kept screaming at me in the car, saying horrible things. "My son is not retarded! My son is not stupid! They don't know what they're talking about!!!" I yelled back."That doesn't make him any less smart! He just learns differently!" He was in such denial. It was heartbreaking, but when I looked in my little babies eyes. I just hugged him so tight, and he squirms out of my arms and giggles. I said to my son I was going to work hard with him every day for the rest of my life to help him.
I’m so sorry for your autistic son. However, there’s nothing wrong with autism at all.
As an autistic woman, I've seen the fair share of denial about my diagnosis from relatives but I went to public schools. But I've also seen a child in my church who very much had autism but the father was an Oscar and denies it. I even plan to have my own children and I'm not afraid of the high possiblity of my kids ending up on the spectrum bcoz I know first hand what they might go through
From one Autistic woman to another, good on you for carrying on with your life the best you can 💜
Yeah wasn't always easy but I found my footing in life. Turns out my niche was art all along 😅
@@Dark_Boba-chan I'm sure it wasn't easy at all. Nice! Art is a great area to explore as well as express yourself.
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Me too. Especially when, I learned how much my dad explains to me about my autism.
I love shows like The Owl House and The Proud Family Louder and Prouder because of their themes of neurodivergence. I’m autistic as well.
I love when shows include themes like this
@@TonyTurner Nice!
@@TonyTurner I hope this will continue
Me too, but I’m highly functioning. Sometimes I feel like my disorders are getting worse though.
honestly when it comes to Penny having to watch her siblings ALL the time? future episodes i can see her her blowing up at her parents and saying she never wants to be a mother as an adult, because she's already expected to be one to her siblings during HER childhood and throughout her teenage years.
I love this episode so much, as a neurodivergent person this made me so happy
I'm so glad this episode connected to you 👏🏿
Me too
I haven't seen this episode yet, but I know how to relate about autism. Because I'm autistic myself. I know how it worries my parents from time to time, but they found some support not just by doctors. But with other support that helps with my surroundings to have a normal life. Which I could easily understand this episode, it is hard to accept but it helps to explore more of one being to become something very intelligent. Just like Temple Grant. She's autistic but she is an engineer in science and spoke to a person with autism.
The way I learned while I am diagnosed with autism, holds not just intelligence but talent hidden within. I bet Bebe has a talent hidden within him as well.
Well said ‼ I'm excited to see how this is explored in future seasons
It's Grandin not Grant.
I have Autism too
@@ericfasold805 yes, thank you for correcting me. I easily mistaken on the last name bases.
Bebe in this episode reminds me of when I was first diagnosed. My behavior was at a point where I could really have hurt myself or someone else near me, and genuinely needed some kind of intervention to stay safe. Though I didn't get up high like Bebe, my emotional outbursts could get pretty violent. It's nice to see this side of things explored more.
I get that.
....I didn't know climbing to high places frequently was a sign of autism though.
It seemed like Bebe might have some daredevil traits since he's walking on roofs and model airplanes.
Thanks for sharing this ‼
I can relate. I was diagnosed with Autism when I was around Bebe's age, because my mom noticed that I wasn't speaking words when I should've and rather spend time with my sisters than other kids. She described that if I wanted something, I would usually just point rather than say anything. I remember that there was a particular stuffed animal cat that I would take with me everywhere, and get upset if I didn't have it with me. And my emotional outbursts would usually end up with me crying, or screaming or grunting when I'm stressed or angry whenever I had a bad day at school or at home. But mostly at home when my parents fought about stuff, or my mom yelling at me or my sisters about whatever, and I just thought I had just had short temper like her. There were some incidents when I should've been scared when something bad happened, but I didn't react like most would. And I often done and stuck to certain patterns to do at certain times of the day because of scheduling or convenience. I don't remember how my parents reacted back when a doctor diagnosed me, but back in the early 90's when the world didn't know too much about autism like today but mom did sound very worried when they told her and my dad. But, when I was interested and curious about something, friends of my family would say that I often picked it up very quickly and do something a little more better to make it easy and more interesting, mostly notice little stuff that can make a huge difference.
My mom always seemed to resent me being autistic because like BeBe I always got into less than ideal, inconveniences to dangerous situations. My mom was a single mom for the first two years of my life and I remember her saying that I got into her grandma's kerosene lamp while I was being babysat. The babysitter took me to the emergency room and met my mom there and apparently, I got to go to the circus the same day. My mom says that I had a shit-eating grin that day. The babysitter was freaking out obviously because my skin was yellow and peeling.
She just always seemed to be bitter towards me.
@@Neku628sorry to hear that.
Seeing this episode got me teary eyed. Being on the autism spectrum myself, I can relate with Bebe because I can remember some moments where was different from everyone and that no one could understand me at first.
This will forever be one of my favorite episodes of the proud family, if not one of my favorite cartoon episodes of all time
Even though I don’t personally relate to autism, this was a nice episode.
Also, Oscar is a neglectful parent. What’s worse is Trudy just went along with Penny watching the twins, even though she had just asked him to take care of them. It’s reminds me of the episode last season where Penny created the rider app because Oscar wouldn’t pick up his kids.
I can relate to autism.
I’m autistic and I became a semipro basketball player. I’m glad that this episode explained that people with the disability can overcome obstacles
I feel the same way watch this video to
Me too
As someone with autism, this is very touching. I was a little concerned with how they would handle it, but they did amazing. Couldn’t have asked for better representation
As someone who is on the spectrum, I'm surprised that this show tackled autism and actually did it well. Most media portrayals of autism are *extremely* problematic!
I'm sorry for laughing when Oscar said "you calling my baby stupid!?" 😂😂 he's so wrong 😭😭
My mother used to say "you don't leave children for children to watch".
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Wise words which should be more common
Too bad more parents don't understand this
I relate to this sooooooo much I have a sister with autism and I’ve had to take a lot of responsibility as an older sister and naturally have been very mature at a young age this episode rlly hit home and brought so much awareness to people about what people with autism go through as well as the family dynamics that follow along
I myself have Autism and ADHD, and I've seen so much representation come and go. Both accurate, inaccurate, and even incredibly stereotyped.
But when it came to the scene in this episode where they diagnosed Bebe with Autism, I can confirm that support and patience are the most important things when raising a child on the spectrum. That the developmental process in dependency and learning, even emotional responses, can fluctuate in major and minor ways.
I really related to Penny in this episode, growing up I had a sibling who was mentally challenged and my parents were really counting on me to look out for him. It was a lot of responsibility and it felt like I had to go everywhere with him to his friends house, to his appointments, I even had to stay after school to watch over him. While I understood why I had to do these things and I did love him, I did grow angry at my family and I never had an outlet so I just kept it buried. Everyday that anger just ate at me and would release itself at random moments getting me in trouble, but I never aimed that anger at my brother because I knew it wasn't his fault.
Things got better as we got older, and he was able to do more things on his own, but I still had to convince my parents he was capable of those things. Even though we're both grown adults I'm still looking out for him in my own way and I always will be, I let go of my anger now that I know I have somebody to count on who will help me.
I used to take care of my little brothers all the time and on top of that I was my mother's caretaker at the same time. she got sick with diabetes, kidney disease, heart failure, lung disease, was also morbidly obese, etc it all fall on me to make sure she got to her doctor's appointments, made sure her medication was refilled & up to date, & keep the house clean but also keep my brothers in line and out of trouble which was not easy at all especially since I was just a 17 years old boy at the time I also try to finish school was close to graduating but so much drama in my life at that time it was hard for me to even focused on my studies & my mother was in and out of the hospital all the time, to the point where we even put her in a temporary nursing home, needless to say, my brothers are always getting into trouble heck one of them has bipolar schizophrenic & takes medication for it. The point is I was taking care of my mom and brothers from the time I was 17 years old to the time of my mom's death in 2015 I'm about to be 38 years old in less than a week. Watching this episode brought up so many memories of all the shit I had to put up with simply because I was the older sibling & ends up becoming more like a parent than a normal teenager, I always feel that we as Black people put too much pressure on the youth to pick up the slack when the so-called adults in the community don't seem to see the hypocrisy of telling children to stay in a child's place then turn around & tell them to handle adult situations like taking care of the younger children when it the parent's job, look I get it sometimes the parents need help and
All that jazz but there is a limit and I have seen way too many parents and other authority figures push too much responsibility on their children and then get upset when their children rebel against them or burn out before they get a certain age, watching this episode just felt too real for me because I had to grow up faster than other children my age and it hurts, plus when I. Was a kid hell even now as an adult I struggle with a short attention span and show some signs of being on the spectrum myself and currently trying to find out and because of that I sometimes feel like something is wrong with me or feel like a failure sometimes but I realized some people are just different and work at their own pace. Fin
God im happy everyone in my family is autistic
The best part about this episode is that they don’t view autism as a negative, and this episode means a lot to me cuz I’m on the autism spectrum
what about oscar? he viewed it as a negative,but oscar thinks everything is a negative though XD but I think this is the first time I've seen him refuse to take bebe to a school
@@eeveefennecfox Well Oscar was older, he didn’t know how to take this
The moment when Oscar hugs Bebe after coming to terms with the situation was so sweet! I'm so glad we get to see characters other than Turdy interacting with the babies in the new series. I don't really remember seeing that happen all that often in the original. And I love that Bebe is getting developed as his own character. I mostly remember him and Cece appearing as a unit in the original series, the way that often happens with twin characters (even though they weren't identical). I hope that we get to see Cece get her own storyline too.
This made me tear up greatly. As someone with a sibling who has autism, it makes me so happy to see so much representation of it in animation, not just with adults, but with kids as well. And I also can’t help relating to Penny a lot in the sense that her parents tend to pin BeBe and CiCi onto her a lot. I’ve taken care of my little sibs since I was around 12, so finally knowing that my feelings of resentment toward my parents are justified makes me super happy. Thank you for this review on the episode. Much love ❤️
the puzzle piece is a hate symbol and most autistic people don't like it.
I'm also not a big fan of how they portray autism as a superpower we are different in some ways but we're still regular people.
Other than that I do like this episode.
Thanks for letting me know ‼ I changed it
The puzzle piece isn't a hate symbol and most autistic people including myself don't care
As someone who was diagnosed as a kid and spent 20 years learning how to hide it and still would never admit to having it outside of a doctors office or anonymously , its nice to see that there's a show or literally anything that doesn't portray people on the spectrum as completely mentally or socially retarded
Trudy really gets on my nerves seeing how she never acknowledges how much she and Oscar milk Penny for help and not get a babysitter
Yeah they been making Trudy look real crazy these last 2 seasons
or make changes in her work life
I got autism and turning 25 this year. I'm just glad to see more people on mainstream media like me. This show was my childhood
BeBe could be a doctor when he grows up, after how quickly he fixed Oscar’s arm lol
A great chiropractor in the making 😅
Hey Tony I’m catching up on all ur content and I must say, you are immaculate in what you do!! I’ve always wanted the show to dive further into BeBe and CeCe’s lives and personalities. I think this gives the character BeBe more depth to him and a way he can be relatable to some viewers. Definitely gonna check this episode out!😊
Thank You ‼👏🏿 I'm so glad they're developing BeBe and CeCe's characters instead of just keeping them babies who make goo goo ga ga noises
Very happy you covered this! I personally can't relate to the type of autism BeBe has, as well as getting diagnosed as early as him, but i think it provides a good enough picture of what some go through. And i like that his parents slowly start to understand more about it, seemingly only knowing stereotypes like where Oscar thought it meant he was stupid. Its nice to see his character grow more in this new version of the show
Btw just a heads up though, puzzlepieces, like in your title, are generally not used by our community, as it is made by Autism Speaks which is an awful foundation. Also a lot of us feel like the puzzle piece means we are incomplete, just in case you didnt know. I know you probably meant no harm in putting them in the title but it can be very triggering for a lot of us, so i just wanted to let you know. Hope thats okay ❤
Anyway loved the video, as i do with all your Proud Family content
Thank You ‼ And thanks for letting me know about the puzzle pieces. I changed it 👌🏾
This was one of the best episodes of season 2 and honestly did not see it coming. They handled the topic very well in a way that is not sugarcoated. And thanks for this episode I think I understand a little more about autism.
Of course ‼
As a neurodivergent girl as well as the older sibling of one brother who is much more severe, I basically was like Bebe when first diagnosed but became penny over time, helping mind my brother who was much more severe, I felt pressure of having to act like a good older sister cause I slip up I’m a bad influence… I also was often not forgotten, but felt left out. Example I was in choir and musicals for many years but because my brother would act out on occasions (including my high school graduation) my mom or dad wouldn’t be there, like my brother took them away from me… I’m 28 now… and it’s just a sad truth that he needed more help than me, but in exchange I’m able to live on my own and be independent while he can’t.
I appreciate showing multiple sides of the family after or before diagnosis
Yes, this is what my son is. My son is in primary school and has been diagnosed with Austism close to his 5th birthday. He’s a sweet boy who loves connecting with people and is very intelligent in his own way. He does need extra support in regulating his emotions and reading social situations and that’s why I’m so grateful that we have Telehealth sessions to help him. Support does go a very very long way and is no way demeaning his intelligence and ability.
I’m both autistic AND the elder sibling to an autistic person, so I can relate to both Penny and Bebe. I think they did a great job with this episode.
Cece’s voice when she said “I told him not to go nowhere “ was adorable
I'm on the spectrum myself and unfortunately grew up in the Andrew Wakefield misinformation period and as a result grew up not really understanding my own autism, but always felt stupid because of the lack of understanding of myself and the world around me. I'm so happy with the way this episode handled it and it's nice to hear that a little extra support doesn't mean lack of ability.
This episode straight up had me crying, I'm autistic and when people see me they assume I'm retarded or have some disability, hell Oscar even made that assumption himself when he was told Bebe is Autistic, but then being corrected of what Autism actually is, its very so wholesome for this show to dive into a very important manner
I think it was a good episode.
It had serious moments with Bebe's diagnosis and funny moments too.
I have a few friends who have Autism and this helps me to understand a little more.
Awesome review dude.
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As someone on the spectrum, I never thought a show like this would make me cry. How they explained it compared to a lot of medias was refreshing.
I'm pretty sure everyone knew this but, the actress that did the voice for Dr Lord is Holly Robinson-Pete. She played in many tv shows including 21Jumpstreet in the 80's. She has twins, a boy and a girl and her son has autism while her daughter doesn't. So it made sense to have her voice Dr Lord.
Yes. That's true ‼
i haven't watched this episode yet but being autistic myself, i was really happy finding out it even existed! the proud family has always been a great show when it comes to bringing up real-life issues in a way that doesn't feel patronizing or preachy. it's just such a fantastic show all around, i've loved it since i was a kid!
I know what it feels like to be different from other people and I do understand how the Proud family feeling right now as they're trying to accept that Bebe has autistic because my parents went through the same thing with me when I was very young before I starter at Primary school. I don't really have autistic but I do have asperger syndrome which means I can sometime get confuse or misunderstood what other people are talking about. I didn't know that I have a asperger syndrome until my mum finally decided to tell me the whole truth before I started high school.
Through my life from teenager and now as an adult I accepted my condiction as there times when I do need help when I need it but I do start to think for myself as I tried to be organise or even help my parents out as I could. There are some things I'm good at while there are other difficult things that I'm not good at but I always try best to bring out the person in me which I'm sure Bebe would do the same thing even though this is a cartoon.
Asperger’s Syndrome IS autism. Depending on where you live. I’m in the USA which renamed it as autism spectrum disorder .
Thanks for sharing this ‼ This could really inspire someone
Is asperger and autism are same?
8:21 idk why, but when he hugged him, I shed a tear-
They did this topic justice.
Also, Aiden Dodson (the voice of Bebe) is on the spectrum, and the creators said that Bebe showed Autistic tendencies in season one.
I do feel upset with the episode because I just wish the Proud Family had addressed older kids, teenagers and adults that are autistic. Well, earlier on in the 2000s, it could have helped me cope with being on the spectrum when I was starting my teenage years. I just feel like there is too much media focusing on little kids with autism and adults and teens on the spectrum just get ignored. It's hard enough to get diagnosed with autism as an adult.
The episode did make me cry though because it just made me sympathize with Oscar a lot. I mean, here he is thinking his kid is defective and this "quack" telling him that his toddler son needs to go to a special school that he's going to have a lot of money for. Yet, he's just shown as being an ableist idiot that cannot admit that there's something up with BeBe.
Also, Tony Turner, I think what is happening to Penny is called adultification where a minor is forced into the role as a parent. It's incredible that some parents think that their older kids are just free childcare. Yes, they are probably always overworking and we live in an absurdly capitalistic country that forces people to choose rather to have kids and who's going to look after them because they can't afford or probably even mentally deal with raising a child.
Thanks for sharing this ‼ Great analysis. I remember Arthur having a good episode about autism as well
Seeing the representation actually made me cry, as this one of the only representation I've seen before, including my twin brother was in the high percentile and I was in the lower percentile. I was also that kid who went out on their own, in potentially dangerous situations. I've found myself alone in the M&M store in Times Square, without a care in the world.
I liked that Oscar immediately put the responsibility of watching BeBe onto CeCe. It was a great way of showing that the parents don't do this because of anything Penny does, but because they think she should be able to. Any justification for dumping toddlers onto a teenager is thrown out the window when the teenager is absent, but it still happened
This hits close to home cause my youngest brother has autism but he's almost 5 and hasn't spoken yet. When he was first diagnosed my mom was in denial and kept refusing to believe it but she later accepted it.
This is one of the best episodes of the season to me ‼
I was diagnosed with Autism or High Functioning Autism when I was 7 I'm in my 20s now and it's hard for me to keep a job but I know what I wanna do with my life though that's going to be a tough road too as long as I have support and as long as anyone on the spectrum has support we can be extraordinary! :)
This really does bring me back to when my mom would deny my autism diagnosis and would refuse the therapy they wanted me in
I did eventually get that therapy
And I'm happy I can communicate better because of it
I have Asperger’s and I relate well to this. I ran around when my mother wasn’t looking and I needed more support in school. I wish more cartoons would make episodes like this on tv.
I haven't seen the whole episode but I saw a clip of it and as a person with autism its very satisfying and wholesome. Like the way the teacher explained it very well has to be said more and the fact Oscar support his kid is what we all need. I really hope more shows portray this more so that people can learn more about autism and have less worry about it.
I also have high functioning autism myself too and I’m very sociable around other people but when it comes to being around like little kids like babies and toddlers, I tend to be socially awkward and distant with them. Not because I hate kids buts because when they cry and throw temper tantrums and act up, I just can’t help but get extremely overwhelmed and overstimulated by the sound and the drama to the point where I just become extremely anxious, fearful and just burst into tears. But I’m also very afraid that not only would I end up losing my temper and hurt them in the process but I’m also afraid that people especially parents of kids will start to quickly judge and think of me as a monster who hates kids and that they’ll never understand the pain and anxiety I go through of dealing with this specific trigger. The truth is, I honestly don’t hate kids at all, I just prefer to keep my distance away from them so that I can stay out of trouble if they start acting out. But just because I’m not very comfortable being around babies and really smaller children, doesn’t mean that I want them hurt or that I don’t truly care about the or feel genuine concern for their well being. Unlike a lot of autistic people my age, I genuinely show compassion and show empathy for other people. Plus I’m very sensitive about my autism mainly because I’m fully aware that my autistic quirks can really drive people crazy and make them frustrated and it makes me feel bad when they remind me or call me out on that but I know it’s nobody’s fault. In the end, I’ve had to go through so many big changes that I had to overcome in my life such as the death of a loved one, moving into my new place, losing my job a few years ago and MOST especially learning how to cope and deal with the Covid pandemic which I’ll admit, was the HARDEST experience I’ve EVER had to go through physically, mentally, emotionally and socially. I’m also am a hugger so when the pandemic came along, it was very very difficult for me to maintain social distancing. Social distancing to me was like getting shock therapy in a way that whenever u get physically closer to the person, u get zapped and the more u do it, the more u get zapped until u eventually restrained and stop yourself from hugging. That was one of the few Covid health protocols that was killing my mental health and running my life socially.
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I just finished this episode and it really had me crying.
I have been told by my psychologist that I show signs of high functioning autism, and I notice my younger brother acts a lot like BeBe. The way Oscar denies all of this until he is presented with the fact that BeBe puts himself in danger a lot is heavy in black culture, especially my family. A lot of times, your own family will just ignore the fact that mental illness/disability exists, especially if you were trained to 'mask' it your whole life.
I've been in Penny's shoes of fearing for the younger brother, and in BeBe's shoes in functioning differently with everyone else and others trying to ignore it to make it easier on themselves.
When Oscar finally hugs BeBe and puts his head in his hair- seeming close to crying, that broke me. I still haven't had that moment from my family of "yes, you have this problem and I will at least try to acknowledge it", but just seeing it made me feel like BeBe is gonna be okay,
My favorite episode and props to the writers for showing a black character with autism to spread the message that we exist
I haven’t been watching but it’s good to know they kept the same characters for the reboot.
And I love that they are reading the room to what is happening today.
Before I started to watch that episode, I've read the info about Bebe is on an autism spectrum. Once I watch that show, the more I watch it everyday. Non stop. Because that's my most favourite episode ever. Plus that reminds me when I got diagnosed with autism spectrum at the age of 2 just like Bebe.
It is very common in black house holds where we become defensive when someone says a child has a different diagnosis then the others
Some people are bringing up that Bebe is probably using his hair to cover his ear and eyes because of sensory overload- BUT there is also the fact that some people on the spectrum absolutely CANNOT get their hair cut. They can’t stand it, it is especially apparent in autistic children.
Another great point ‼
It has to be pointed out that Bebe climbing and being up high is part of sensory seeking - something autistic people deal with. Yes, we deal with being sensory avoidant, but sensory-seeking isn't often mentioned. The hard part is that he doesn't really understand boundaries and danger since he could care less about the danger he's in (e.g. laughing after having to be rescued.) Something I wonder as an autistic person who works with young children (not looking for advice), on the one hand - is how to encourage sensory seeking behavior (e.g. climbing) safely, but on the other hand, discipline after doing something dangerous. It's so contradicting and confusing.
I'm autistic, and I LOVE this.
I am so blessed that my mom never had me as the third parent. Yes, I do have to look after my sister at times but it was very rare. My mom was the middle of 6 brothers/sisters, so she understood the burden of the third parent, she didn't want to do that when she has kids. I always hated that Penny was the third parent, if it was only for work or sick parents, I would understand. Most of the time, it was mostly bc of date nights and fun outings, when Penny already have time. It was expected for Penny to sacrifice her plans for her parents to have fun when it should have been the other way around. Those twins are Trudy and Oscar, not Penny. I know if Penny had a baby, I doubt Oscar and Trudy will be a 24/7 free babysitter for her kid. My friend is the oldest of 5 siblings, she gets paid if her parents want a date night and she has to look after them. Dijonay even pays Basil to look after her brothers/sisters for her. Maya and Michael did have a point, if I were Penny I think I would have taken Dijonay's offer and dumped them off Basil. Plus taking care of babies/toddlers is a lot of responsibility for a 14-year-old girl even if Bebe wasn't autistic.
the way they portrayed this was very enjoyable!! even just the little details made me happy and i felt understood watching this :p
Like! The way Penny's parents just Dumped bebe and cece onto Penny like that its just like "No wonder Your kid barely talks to you anymore"
I absolutely love this episode!!! I don’t know what to expect
My dad actually was the one who picked up I had autism quicker than usual. As he had alot of behavioral issues and his own demons (addiction is a rough area. He passed in 2018 and I love my dad, just hate the fact the bottle took him away.) . My mom did the best she could. And both grandparents on each side paid for my therapy. Sadly, I miss my mom's parents and my dad's dad. As they passed and will never see me graduate college or get married to a man I love. My dad's mom is alive and I love her and my mom to bits.
Thanks for sharing ‼🙏🏾
@Tony Turner Any time. Sometimes I can sympathize with parents. It's hard when you put so much effort into the pregnancy, birth or infant milestones. It's hard to overlook. And you could be scared that children or other adults are better or stuck up. And some are. But, it's you and only you can change. With the right support system and tears, meltdowns, and psychologists along the way.
I haven’t made it to this episode but I love to see it. I’m very happy to these stories and storylines in this season handled with tact and penny’s storyline is very validating as well, even as a younger sibling. So happy this show came back.
Wow..I saw the colorism recap episode as well.. Very realistic! This isn't The Proud Family that I remembered from the ABC network. Made me stop to think. Penny was definitely being forced to watch the kids. That would've caused resentment and staying away from home to avoid that responsibility. In addition, I read a comment below about Holly Robinson Peete and I'm like, yes I'm aware of her and Rodney's son who is in the spectrum.
Penny learned that her baby brother Bebe been showing signs of autism when ever he’s doing something that’s right or wrong screams having trouble with communication that would be a good thing for penny and her parents Trudy and Oscar to take good care and looking after him creating great things that when I have autism I have trouble understanding what it is and having trouble with communicating and couldn’t remember anything I asked for help
As a girl with autism I don't deny this is a huge step for animation showing a black character being autistic but in my opinion they should have made CC autistic because there aren't a lot of girls in animation Or shows in general that have autism
I associate Entrapta from "She-ra" (Canonically)
I have autism too and I have been having it for years ,but since I saw this it got me thinking about how I can I change the way I think about autism.
A kid with autism can be tough but being an adult with Autism it’s even harder.
My mom and I been looking for a therapist and I hope it will help me with my problems with autism.
Good Luck with everything ‼
@@TonyTurner thanks!
True that, at least it's easier for a kid to get diagnosed early, especially a male.
Why does it seem like every episode of the reboot that doesn’t deal with race handled so beautifully while any adjacent is handled so poorly.
This episode was really well handled with Penny being pushed to take care of her siblings when it’s not her responsibility, Oscars denial to Bebe’s Autism, How They out him in the spectrum and what Not.
This and Juneteenth were the only two episodes I’ve seen so far that felt as if it really embraced the old proud family.
This season was VERY good. It felt like OG proud family and my favourite was the puppy war episode and the Penny disciplining one.The characters mostly felt like their old versions. The only bad episode was the zoey slander one against the guy with a “white preference” and im not watching Juneteenth at all. When Disney isn’t trying to be woke, they produce good things. I think every time Maya comes on screen, expect the episode quality to go downhill.
Why do they always show boys with autism? I have autism and I’m a girl. Girls can have autism too. No offence. I’m happy they’re spreading the word and education about autism, but it’s not just in boys
I've seen this critique a lot. I wonder why that is more seen in this type of media too 🤔
@@TonyTurner because girls who are Autistic are better at masking than boys. My parents tried to see if I was on the spectrum when I was 4 but it didn't work, but they tried again when I was 11 and they found out I had ADHD and was autistic.
I’m autistic. Haven’t seen this episode yet but I’m so so happy to know people are learning about what autism is from it! Ngl tho hearing how Oscar first reacted hurt…it’s super realistic so it’s super painful! But it’s good because it calls out the people who think like that and just maybe they see from his growth and acceptance that they got it all wrong
Now that's just said how Oscar didn't wanna believe the symptoms of Bebe's autism. My mom did the same thing to me growing up when I had severe social anxiety. She kept telling me nothing was wrong with me and to interact with people more. She didn't wanna even take me to get diagnosed but like I always knew something wasn't right. So in my teen years I had looked up the symptoms and came to found out I had social anxiety.
3:37 BeBe is just built like that. If he wants somewhere he’ll manifest there and we have to accept it
Also since when was BeBe so adorable???
Lol. I love that they gave BeBe and CeCe more personality. They used to just crawl and make goo goo noises
Love your channel and your commentary! Keep going, you’re doing great ❤️ I loved this episode too.
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I can relate to this I have a learning disability and i have friends who has autism and so does my nephew ha it it means everything to me that someone talks about this . I never grew up about people talking about this . Thank you .
Bro why am I crying when the parents hugged Bebe?? I don't understand my emotions 😭
My favorite part of the episode ‼
I have autism. Im glad they show this in the proud family 👍
I’m glad there are episodes and things that show autism and give education to it. My sister has autism, she didn’t speak actual words til she hit 6 and even then it was very few.
She may be difficult to deal with at times, but she is amazing. She’s extremely creative and very intelligent but has a difficult time getting it out.
And yes being the eldest sibling is very difficult with that because I’ve had to help take care of my sister and baby sister many times, but it helped me also learn how to help her with her autism (as in how to express emotions or how to deal with emotions) and how to figure out how to communicate with her. I love them so much and they mean the whole world to me.
I was the older sibling stuck with my autistic brother from 13 til I moved out my mom house. I felt this episode , dealing with melt downs and shit
This episode was so well done and touch on two important topics parentification and autism. I'm the oldest out of three siblings but thankfully I didn't have to watch my younger siblings that much growing up because we are close in age but it is unfair to expect the oldest child to always have to babysit their younger siblings. The oldest child wants to have their fun and be a kid/teen too. My brother has autism so this topic hits close to home for me. People need to know the signs, more education, awareness and understanding on autism.
Trudy told Oscar to mind the twins and Oscar trying to dump the twins on Penny as if he had a job 😒
What makes it worse is that Trudy was OK with this nonsense, and when she did speak about it it was only because Penny was struggling with BeBe. Why she got married to that man we'll never know..
@@bakedbaker9882 right?!?! Like she JUST told him to mind HIS children and then watching him toss that onto their child knowing she was already doing something else, just sides with him?! Like MAAM! Your husband doesn’t have a JOB. That lawsuit of a business is not WORK and brings in NO MONEY. HE CAN WATCH HIS KIDS.
I was diagnosed as an adult and both my parents said they didn't think I was autistic because I was smart. Smart but always struggled to be social, had meltdowns a lot, picky eater, sensory overload, but yeah I'm smart so nothing is wrong lol. I don't blame them for not understanding, but it shows how important awareness like this is. I really appreciate it.
I hate the cycle of parentification that happens many eldest siblings. Like talk need to start having all your kids around the same age. I'm more than a DECADE older than my siblings. I literally have no free time, besides school. Ion even ask to go nowhere cause I know the answer. Just because one child is older, mean they can handle caring for their SIBLINGS. keyword SIBLING.
I have a form of Autism called Asperger syndrome so I think it is about time to teach people about Autism even all form of Autism.
I have twin siblings like Bebe and Cece. This reminded me of when my brother first got diagnosed. They’re 16 now and I sent this to my sister. It’s so heart warming:
And I think it’s great to point out that the voice actors for the doctor I think? Has a child on the spectrum
I think so too ‼ Holly Robinson Peete. This episode was well done
I wonder why this episode didn't have both Bebe and Cece both being diagnosed with autism, it's rare that we get to see a girl diagnosed with autism. Sure, it's uncommon but girls can have it too. I say that as a thirty-year-old woman with autism.
@@Neku628 as a 25 year old who received a late diagnosis. I totally agree with you! Though i know plenty animated shows with Neuro divergent, female characters
I’m 35 years old and I was diagnosed with autism when I was 3. I remember how difficult it was for me with certain subjects in school and needing extra help. There were a lot of doubt from my parents wondering if I would be able to live independently as an adult. I spent most of my life having to prove people wrong. I live in apartment by myself and have a steady job.
@@Neku628 I definitely agree! Any representation of autism for black women and girls specifically is basically nonexistent and I think it would’ve been good to show that in both of them, not just BeBe
I’m autistic too I never thought Disney would tackle autism but here we are
I was diagnos with autism when I was 2 years old and my brother but he got it more badder then me I so happy they get to make this episode it is a important message to know to love and support your children no matter what when my mum and dad found out about it they were so upset in their day I'm 28 now I have a loving partner and we have a beautiful 6 month old daughter! ❤️
I hate that since day one of the original series they always dump the twins on penny y’all wanted these twins not your teen daughter don’t dump them on her
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Now this is how shows should write about a character having autism.