I've been a studying judo since the early 1990s this is a variation on uki waza is you grip uki waza with a right hand grip he should be thrown over your left shoulder not right shoulder wich would solve the problem of him putting his arm down because you already have the sleeve That being said this is a great variation and props to him
If you look up compilations of people hitting uki waza in competition, they often pummel for the under hook and then step to the far side to execute the throw. So if they pummeled there left arm in for the under hook, they would step out to the right, using that under hook as the lever. it occurs to me that uki waza could be set up off of a failed arm drag attempt too.
The difference between Drop Uchi-Komi (first derivative on KUZUSHI) throws and These wrap/Uki-Waza clinches is YOU DONT have direct ippon on these=BJJ’s slip into clinch-guard pulls.YOU HAVE TO USE ANOTHER KUZUSHI TO STEP BACK AFTER THE Initial KUZUSHI like a Sasae Tsuri Komi.SO,getting rid of this “Drop Seoi”,drop tai-whatever,craze is going to be HUGE in scaling the ACTUAL.Uki Otoshi is a KUZUSHI that rotates a pull TOWARDS/into the thrower’s axis,and Sumi Otoshi is a shove over AWAY/outside from the thrower’s axis.So,getting a DROP uchi-komi off the “otoshi” part in Uki Otoshi will be VERY interesting regarding CONTINUING the second derivative off a TURN-A-AROUND hip-guruma line where You start Your axis of KUZUSHI,which is tighter and more rotational as around You in Uki Otoshi,and then,like a Drop Seoi or Tai,continuing like a Drop Morote Seoi nage.which is the rotational sumi of Ippon Seoi Nage,around Your Axis of Sumi ,^^^as defined as “tighter”,and CONTINUING that throw along the hip-guruma line INTO a BACKWARDS throw into a ROTATION BACKWARDS into a like…lol…drop…It ends up like being EXACTLY at the axis 90 degrees around,but it is FULLY along the Hip-Guruma line rotation and drops only because of the Axis rotation’s being in the first derivative of the uchi-komi=just continuing a throw to a continuous uchi-komi into backwards=Hip-Guruma line
I don’t know about fixing anything… He didn’t fundamentally change throw it all, he just changed to a right handed sleep grip in order to accommodate his preference for stepping out to the left to initiate the throw. If you step to the right to initiate the thrill you don’t have to change your grips at all, assuming you take a right handed lapel grip and a left-handed sleep grip.
Agreed. If you wrap the left arm and drop tto the left you are using body weight. Also the step to the right needs to be decisive to get a reaction. Judo takedowns need that reaction and pace change. Otherwise uke will land on you. IMHO with all due deference to the master
@@slavicvolk You have far more control on your opponents arm that is gripping your sleeve than you do on the arm that is gripping your collar. If he stepped to the right and tripped him to the left, it's easy for opponent to let go of your collar and post on the mat. The overwrap is key to where the arm is trapped
I might be missing something but it's curious to me that Danaher, one of the best in the business, an instructor that has cautioned against the dangers of Tani Otoshi and Guard Jumping (and who frequently offers instructions regarding the safety of "training partners") offers little here about how to practice this technique safely. Isn't it just as important as trapping the arm to release it before impact so that uke can properly break his fall? And shouldn't there be more attention paid to kuzushi and kake--especially kake and the goal of using your hands to rotate uke to his back (if there is no effort to use one's hands to rotate uke to his back, then this throw puts him directly on his shoulder, which is a perfect recipe for AC joint and collar bone injuries: I've seen it happen twice and experienced it once, all from opponents who had watched this video). I understand that without the criteria for ippon there is less incentive to try to throw someone to their back but it seems to me that this should still be a consideration for safely training sacrifice throws, regardless of the point system or ruleset.
Currently looking up counters because a purple belt did this throw on me and now my shoulder is messed up. A follow up video would be awesome about countering it or safety tips!
This should be classified as a variant of Yoko-gake, not Uki-waza. To see an actual master perform the technique watch variant 2 by Mifune here starting at 0.17 czcams.com/video/2OohPsAETVo/video.html
Can't he just pummel his hand to the outside and still post it on the mat stopping the takedown? A better approach would be controlling his sleeve instead of the elbow Mr. Danaher, or just keep controlling the collar but switch from elbow to sleeve control on the other side.
To be fair, a large number of techniques (if not the majority) were passed down from the Kodokan to Brazil such that something being inspired by or taken directly from judo should generally be a default assumption, not the exception. By extension, it is tachiwaza, which has been around since antiquity such that, unless evidence exists to the contrary, it may also be assumed that judokas based any given technique on something out of koryu or classical jujutsu. For the honest practitioner, few things are truly original.
Judo and Jiujitsu are both expressions of the ancient Samurai jiujitsu. That being said, why are you injecting random aggression into the situation when no one even mentioned Judo negatively in the first place?
I've been a studying judo since the early 1990s this is a variation on uki waza is you grip uki waza with a right hand grip he should be thrown over your left shoulder not right shoulder wich would solve the problem of him putting his arm down because you already have the sleeve
That being said this is a great variation and props to him
Wow a Danaher video that’s less than 20 hours!
I'm a simple man. I see Danaher I click like.
On another note: solid video. Good to see how to "evade" as well if the person didn't do it well
If you look up compilations of people hitting uki waza in competition, they often pummel for the under hook and then step to the far side to execute the throw. So if they pummeled there left arm in for the under hook, they would step out to the right, using that under hook as the lever. it occurs to me that uki waza could be set up off of a failed arm drag attempt too.
The difference between Drop Uchi-Komi (first derivative on KUZUSHI) throws and These wrap/Uki-Waza clinches is YOU DONT have direct ippon on these=BJJ’s slip into clinch-guard pulls.YOU HAVE TO USE ANOTHER KUZUSHI TO STEP BACK AFTER THE Initial KUZUSHI like a Sasae Tsuri Komi.SO,getting rid of this “Drop Seoi”,drop tai-whatever,craze is going to be HUGE in scaling the ACTUAL.Uki Otoshi is a KUZUSHI that rotates a pull TOWARDS/into the thrower’s axis,and Sumi Otoshi is a shove over AWAY/outside from the thrower’s axis.So,getting a DROP uchi-komi off the “otoshi” part in Uki Otoshi will be VERY interesting regarding CONTINUING the second derivative off a TURN-A-AROUND hip-guruma line where You start Your axis of KUZUSHI,which is tighter and more rotational as around You in Uki Otoshi,and then,like a Drop Seoi or Tai,continuing like a Drop Morote Seoi nage.which is the rotational sumi of Ippon Seoi Nage,around Your Axis of Sumi ,^^^as defined as “tighter”,and CONTINUING that throw along the hip-guruma line INTO a BACKWARDS throw into a ROTATION BACKWARDS into a like…lol…drop…It ends up like being EXACTLY at the axis 90 degrees around,but it is FULLY along the Hip-Guruma line rotation and drops only because of the Axis rotation’s being in the first derivative of the uchi-komi=just continuing a throw to a continuous uchi-komi into backwards=Hip-Guruma line
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This is very similar to the collar drag that JD is teaching as well
I could have used that yesterday in class lol
Danaher has spent so much time, not just on the mats, but working through problems on the mat, that he’s fixing judo techniques! I love it!
Fixing? C'mon... He is doing wrong...
I don’t know about fixing anything… He didn’t fundamentally change throw it all, he just changed to a right handed sleep grip in order to accommodate his preference for stepping out to the left to initiate the throw. If you step to the right to initiate the thrill you don’t have to change your grips at all, assuming you take a right handed lapel grip and a left-handed sleep grip.
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Or just step to your right and attack their other side since you already have their right sleeve
My thought the whole time… still a good move but you get more “pull” utilizing the lapel than the far sleeve.
@@JasonDempster1 except they can post with their free arm…
@@chcknpie04 no I mean step to the right and use your left foot to trip. You already have their sleeve, just go the other way
Agreed. If you wrap the left arm and drop tto the left you are using body weight. Also the step to the right needs to be decisive to get a reaction. Judo takedowns need that reaction and pace change. Otherwise uke will land on you. IMHO with all due deference to the master
@@slavicvolk You have far more control on your opponents arm that is gripping your sleeve than you do on the arm that is gripping your collar.
If he stepped to the right and tripped him to the left, it's easy for opponent to let go of your collar and post on the mat.
The overwrap is key to where the arm is trapped
good video. btw, what belt rank does Danaher have in judo?
White
not sure but ik he has worked with some notable Judoka like Travis stevens and Gary st Leger
White
Does it matter?
I might be missing something but it's curious to me that Danaher, one of the best in the business, an instructor that has cautioned against the dangers of Tani Otoshi and Guard Jumping (and who frequently offers instructions regarding the safety of "training partners") offers little here about how to practice this technique safely. Isn't it just as important as trapping the arm to release it before impact so that uke can properly break his fall? And shouldn't there be more attention paid to kuzushi and kake--especially kake and the goal of using your hands to rotate uke to his back (if there is no effort to use one's hands to rotate uke to his back, then this throw puts him directly on his shoulder, which is a perfect recipe for AC joint and collar bone injuries: I've seen it happen twice and experienced it once, all from opponents who had watched this video). I understand that without the criteria for ippon there is less incentive to try to throw someone to their back but it seems to me that this should still be a consideration for safely training sacrifice throws, regardless of the point system or ruleset.
Currently looking up counters because a purple belt did this throw on me and now my shoulder is messed up. A follow up video would be awesome about countering it or safety tips!
Nice
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Another judo tip is to pull the over hook arm to your hip
He can post because this uki waza is being thrown on the "wrong" side.
This should be classified as a variant of Yoko-gake, not Uki-waza. To see an actual master perform the technique watch variant 2 by Mifune here starting at 0.17 czcams.com/video/2OohPsAETVo/video.html
Am I the only one that thinks that with the double overwrap grip the opponent can still post his hand on the floor?
Can't he just pummel his hand to the outside and still post it on the mat stopping the takedown? A better approach would be controlling his sleeve instead of the elbow Mr. Danaher, or just keep controlling the collar but switch from elbow to sleeve control on the other side.
Ugh this is so hot 🤣
Its a Judo move. NOT from BJJ. No one ever gives credit to Judo for their beautiful throws.
To be fair, a large number of techniques (if not the majority) were passed down from the Kodokan to Brazil such that something being inspired by or taken directly from judo should generally be a default assumption, not the exception. By extension, it is tachiwaza, which has been around since antiquity such that, unless evidence exists to the contrary, it may also be assumed that judokas based any given technique on something out of koryu or classical jujutsu. For the honest practitioner, few things are truly original.
Danaher gives props to judo ALL THE TIME
It's a judo throw that compliments really well to the ground 👊👍
Where do you see someone saying this is from bjj? Does the move have a japanease name or a brazillian name?
Judo and Jiujitsu are both expressions of the ancient Samurai jiujitsu. That being said, why are you injecting random aggression into the situation when no one even mentioned Judo negatively in the first place?
Bad throught No technique