Imho MacBooks are supposed to look and feel sexy and light, and the Pro just doesn’t feel that good for me. It feels like a brick, very unappealing. Could get used to it of course, but why? The 15” air has a nice big screen and is thinner and looks better (for me). I don’t need the pro features, so the Air is where it’s at
The m2 pro and m1 pro macbook 14 pros are also phenomenal even 3 years later. I bought my m1 pro macbook pro with 16/512 for 1200 about 6 months ago, and have been loving it ever since I bought it
I have an M2 15" MacBook Air with the 16GB/1TB config and I use it for development, 3D modeling, and UI and graphic design, zero problems here, even when running local AI models like stable diffusion and llama3 8B Don't let people tell you you can't do this stuff on these lower-end machines, they're beasts As for storage usage, I have all of my iCloud data including photos, the entire codebases of multiple applications, and multiple AI models and I'm using about 200GB, do with that information what you will.
I am starting cloud computing next month. I am looking at a MacBook to do most of my projects for Github and projects for school. I was thinking 36gb model would be mandatory...do you think I could get away with 18gb instead? Just asking because it looks like you are a in the same field. Thanks.
@@jag4650 Realistically you would be fine on an iPad (not really, that's mostly hyperbole), but you won't need that high end of a device, especially in school You're doing proof of concepts, demos, etc. and, especially with cloud computing which, by nature, is not done on device I took all of my data mining courses on an iPad (and not an M1 iPad), for example (and that included work in Windows-only software) Back in the Intel days you would definitely want to go as high end as you could afford, but that's not the case here. I did my undergrad with a 16" Intel MacBook Pro and I'm doing my masters with an M2 MacBook Air, the old paradigms don't hold up anymore
It's your own opinion, everyone is entitled to it. I'll go MacBook Pro any day of the week, I know it's expensive to buy that, but better to have that when I need it, than to get something I'll regret later on.
@jonny2085 video editors do. Don't necessarily need the max chip though. That's agreed on. The extra ports without the need for a dongle is why I say go with the pro.
I was gonna say the M3 Pro 14 inch with additional RAM to 16gb for $200 makes it $1799 ($1699 w/student price) is pretty tough not to go with. Weights the same, better screen, better speakers, same 512gb storage and additional ports. I think unless you really need no fan or that extra inch 🤣. It's a hard sell. I do like the no fan of the Air.
The 16/512 M3, either the 13 or 15 inch, is definitely the sweet spot. Power, portability, and now its a stock configuration. Education pricing brings it down to $1399/$1599 USD respectively, and there will almost surely be more deals at authorized sellers over the summer for back-to-school. Its an excellent device that will last awhile.
Is the 15” that much better than 13”? I currently have a 13” M1 MacBook Air and I want to upgrade to M3 but having a hard time deciding between 13 or 15”. I def don’t need a pro model, I’m just a basic user, I also have an external monitor I use when I want more screen space, but that limits me to my desk, and I don’t use it that often.
The only thing with the 15" is that if your college has small ass chair trays or if you do work in an economy seat tray, anything above 13/14" can be a struggle.
Yeah, plus the footprint is just so much bigger, and as a law student, I’m already carrying around heavy ass textbooks lmao. That’s why I have always gravitated towards the 13 inch. But I do think I would appreciate the bigger screen….why is the 14 inch screen on a MacBook so heavy 😭 I’m so used to my m1 air
With the refurbished M1 MacBook Pro 14 available for less than $1300, there is no excuse to get the MacBook Air for professional use. For non-professional use, the M1-M3 Air are all excellent options with 16GB of RAM. You can get a $20 dongle for extra ports if you do photography as a side hobby and need an SD card port.
MacBooks are meant to be portable. I could get a Mac mini for "professional" use and connect it to a monitor for less than that. A 14 inch screen is not enough for "professionals" and 16 inch is too chunky and it looks ridiculous if you want to work from a coffee shop. Lots of "professionals" don't export videoclips all day and when they need to, they can wait 2 extra minutes.
Brought a M2 15" air with 16gb of Unified memory and it's been perfect. Have a 1tb portable SSD for any work i do. Edit photos and short videos on it perfectly fine. For my first mac it's a great introduction to MacOS. Glad it came out when it did as i was about to spend far more then comfortable on a 16" Macbook pro which at the time would have been perfect but as of now would be total overkill. I defo am missing out on some features as somebody who dislikes the iPhone (hate IOS) but the mac is making me want an iPhone for improving tasks and features which i'd use regularly
@@NoahHerman Think if i got an iPhone it would be whichever Pro Max is the newest. Huge mobile photographer and need that larger display. 15PM did temp me at release but i cant upgrade until August
Traded a base 15” MacBook Pro M2 for a second hand base M1 Pro 14”. Although the size difference is minimal somehow the 14” fits better at my backpack than the 15”.
I am a Graphic Designer and a Photographer from India who works on multiple layers in Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Lightroom Classic, Figma and Canva, also I am planning to start learning video editing using Adobe's Premier Pro or Davinci Resolve and motion graphics using Adobe After Effects. Currently, I am using an AUS ROG Zephyrus G14 from 2020 with 16 gigs of memory and 1 TB of storage (this is the base model btw which has a Ryzen 5 4600 HS CPU and a Nvidia GTX 1650 ti GPU). I usually have multiple apps running and this is how it might look on average: 1. Photoshop 2. Illustrator 3. Figma (along with Photoshop on rare scenarios) 4. Lightroom Classic (sometimes along with Photoshop) 3. A browser (2 different ones like Brave and Firefox sometimes), 4. Apple Music, 5. Windows file explorer (4 to 5 tabs), 6. A communication app (like Slack or Teams) and 7. Notion. So now can you tell me whether a person like me can get away with a decently specced Macbook Air (like a 15-inch model with 24 gigs of memory and 1 TB of storage) instead of a much more powerful Macbook Pro?
I wholeheartedly agree with this verdict! I came back to the Mac over a year ago when I purchased a M2 MacBook Air 13 after spending about four years with a ThinkPad. I wish I could have waited for the 15 inch version. I also went with 24GB RAM as I was constantly running out of RAM on my ThinkPad but if I was doing it again I would either save the money and get 16GB or spend the money on the 1TB storage instead. This MacBook Air is the best daily driver laptop I’ve ever owned.
At first thinking about the 15 in MacBook Air seems like a steal.. but then you start to add at least 512gb and 16gb of ram… it is just inches away from a 14 in MacBook Pro which is way better in almost every aspect despite being slightly smaller… if Im spending that much already, I might as well get the 14 in MacBook Pro,, just my humble opinion 😊
I was SURE you were going to say a MacBook Pro! I really like the 15" MacBook Air and am looking at that model and actually the MacBook Air M1 from Walmart :)
Completely agree with the revieq Noah. I got a M2 MacBook Air with 24gb RAM and 1 TB ssd and that too for just £1600 from the Apple Refurbished Store in the UK
Agreed! Just upgraded my 13” M2 16gb 512 ssd to the 15” M3 16gb 512 ssd. Bigger screen, light form factor and what no one talks about, bigger area to rest your wrists.
If I could find a fault, it would be the lack of memory management overall by Apple for their MacOS and Safari. Since the M series chip, many have voiced 'concern' about the issues with the consumption of memory and the lack of releasing memory for other apps, etc. However, for casual day-to-day use, I have to agree (save for Safari) with your take on the Air. I went from a 2015 MBP with the magic choice of 16/512. It served me very well for years. I opted later to try the M1 Mini 1ith the same options and well, wonderful machine but memory was a serious problem I finally ended up with a Studio Max M1 64 gigs RAM as I do some photo edit work. If I had to get a laptop as an addition, I would go with the Air for much of the reasons you give. Noah, as awlays, enjoy your videos.
Other browsers, like Firefox, are much better with RAM than Safari. My workflow involves about eight tabs on Firefox and a few Office apps, and I use about 6GB of RAM. Safari seems to have memory leaks due to how Apple apps handle RAM, meaning websites continue to eat RAM, but Firefox avoids this.
I recently went to check out the macs and I honestly can't get over how smooth the refresh rate is on the pros. If they put 90Hz at least on the macbook airs then they will be the bests laptops money can buy
2 things 1 - What is that airpods max stand? And 2 i fell for the hype and started with an m3 pro - but then needed 1tb because 512 was slower - so i got the midgrade 18 core gpu. then i was like well its only a few hundred to go to 36gb so i switched to m3 pro with 36gb. but then you get faster computer at m3 max so i upgraded there. Then i was like oh future proof and i got the 40 core gpu and 2tb and 64 gb and all i do is play games, browse web, emails, watch youtube, and videos, and granted the screen is sick and the computer is instantaneously fast, i find myself 5 months later, looking to downgrade macs and go with either a mac mini as a dedicated plugged in machine, and switch between the new ipad pro's 11' for portability and using while doing cardio in my home gym. most of my computing comes down to content consumption and emails and web browsing/research/shopping. i love the idea of the ipad pro and the new ones coming soon are sounding awesome. I want to sell my current macbook pro and i can 75-80% of what i paid back. my budget will be around 3500 for ipad pro/keyboard and either a new air, pro, mini, or studio. What do you recommend?
How is the Lightroom Classic performance of this Air 15 ?? Let's say importing 1000 photos, then scrubbing & editing them, then exporting .. Does it lags ?? I can get by with the importing & exporting but what's more important to me the scrubbing & editing if it lags from scrolling photos to photos ..
yes it is! esp compared to its 13" little brother and models with just 8gb. plus if you watch the rest of the video i comment on using it for productivity, media consumption and some light creative work with the fantastic hardware! but you know, you can choose to listen to and understand whatever you darn well please :)
You’re good! Don’t keep passively telling yourself you have ADHD.. You are better than 90% of CZcamsrs! Just let your subconscious mind take care of it all.. feed it with positivity and you’ll be good! Cheers 🍻
The M3 is significantly faster, as well as having an encoder/decoder and Ray Tracing. If you are a creator I would not recommend going the cheaper option of the M1, and go straight for the M3 or wait for the M4.
As an engineer now (i was studying) i wouldn't go less than 16gb ram. You can literally cut on storage and get the 256gb if you have another pc for you. If this is your only machine then 512 is ok.
what do you think about a MacBook Air M1... 16GB 2TB on the Apple refurb store? They're probably extra inventory and likely new... they are going for 1500$ 600 bux off what a similar M3 spec... plus I like the gold color... I use it as a base for my Quest 3 virtual monitors so 15 is not needed... I'm coming from a MacBook Pro Intel... I looked it up the M1 MBA is 5000 points better on GeekBench Multi-Core than mine... so huge spec bump... thx in advance for your reply!
Am I the only person who is getting tired of CZcamsrs constantly using the phrase "bang for your buck"? I must hear this 10 times a day LOL. With regards to this MacBook Air 15, it is possibly the worst value laptop on the market anywhere. The the display quality looks terrible by todays standards.
It is an excellent IPS panel, and for those who suffer from PWM flickering, it is the first choice if we cannot afford miniLED. I only do notes and office workloads and watch media, so 120Hz is redundant for me, as I expect for many ultrabook users.
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Imho MacBooks are supposed to look and feel sexy and light, and the Pro just doesn’t feel that good for me. It feels like a brick, very unappealing. Could get used to it of course, but why? The 15” air has a nice big screen and is thinner and looks better (for me). I don’t need the pro features, so the Air is where it’s at
The m2 pro and m1 pro macbook 14 pros are also phenomenal even 3 years later. I bought my m1 pro macbook pro with 16/512 for 1200 about 6 months ago, and have been loving it ever since I bought it
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@@NoahHermanjokes on you ive never met him he ran off to get some milk and still havent gotten back
I have an M2 15" MacBook Air with the 16GB/1TB config and I use it for development, 3D modeling, and UI and graphic design, zero problems here, even when running local AI models like stable diffusion and llama3 8B
Don't let people tell you you can't do this stuff on these lower-end machines, they're beasts
As for storage usage, I have all of my iCloud data including photos, the entire codebases of multiple applications, and multiple AI models and I'm using about 200GB, do with that information what you will.
I am starting cloud computing next month. I am looking at a MacBook to do most of my projects for Github and projects for school. I was thinking 36gb model would be mandatory...do you think I could get away with 18gb instead? Just asking because it looks like you are a in the same field. Thanks.
@@jag4650 Realistically you would be fine on an iPad (not really, that's mostly hyperbole), but you won't need that high end of a device, especially in school
You're doing proof of concepts, demos, etc. and, especially with cloud computing which, by nature, is not done on device
I took all of my data mining courses on an iPad (and not an M1 iPad), for example (and that included work in Windows-only software)
Back in the Intel days you would definitely want to go as high end as you could afford, but that's not the case here. I did my undergrad with a 16" Intel MacBook Pro and I'm doing my masters with an M2 MacBook Air, the old paradigms don't hold up anymore
It's your own opinion, everyone is entitled to it. I'll go MacBook Pro any day of the week, I know it's expensive to buy that, but better to have that when I need it, than to get something I'll regret later on.
99.9% of people don’t need the pro
i agree with both of you haha. that's why i own both! 😂😉
@jonny2085 video editors do. Don't necessarily need the max chip though. That's agreed on. The extra ports without the need for a dongle is why I say go with the pro.
Yeah. MacBook pro. It's expensive upfront but it's very cheap (apple line up) in the long run.
I was gonna say the M3 Pro 14 inch with additional RAM to 16gb for $200 makes it $1799 ($1699 w/student price) is pretty tough not to go with. Weights the same, better screen, better speakers, same 512gb storage and additional ports. I think unless you really need no fan or that extra inch 🤣. It's a hard sell. I do like the no fan of the Air.
My 13” 2020 M1 Base MacBook Pro is still a beast !! Blazing fast, still amazing battery life and don’t need anything more !
Agreed
The 16/512 M3, either the 13 or 15 inch, is definitely the sweet spot. Power, portability, and now its a stock configuration. Education pricing brings it down to $1399/$1599 USD respectively, and there will almost surely be more deals at authorized sellers over the summer for back-to-school. Its an excellent device that will last awhile.
Is the 15” that much better than 13”? I currently have a 13” M1 MacBook Air and I want to upgrade to M3 but having a hard time deciding between 13 or 15”. I def don’t need a pro model, I’m just a basic user, I also have an external monitor I use when I want more screen space, but that limits me to my desk, and I don’t use it that often.
The only thing with the 15" is that if your college has small ass chair trays or if you do work in an economy seat tray, anything above 13/14" can be a struggle.
Yeah, plus the footprint is just so much bigger, and as a law student, I’m already carrying around heavy ass textbooks lmao. That’s why I have always gravitated towards the 13 inch. But I do think I would appreciate the bigger screen….why is the 14 inch screen on a MacBook so heavy 😭 I’m so used to my m1 air
With the refurbished M1 MacBook Pro 14 available for less than $1300, there is no excuse to get the MacBook Air for professional use.
For non-professional use, the M1-M3 Air are all excellent options with 16GB of RAM. You can get a $20 dongle for extra ports if you do photography as a side hobby and need an SD card port.
what if i wanted a sleeker or larger screen? the pro is amazing dont get me wrong but the form factor of the air is beautiful
MacBooks are meant to be portable. I could get a Mac mini for "professional" use and connect it to a monitor for less than that.
A 14 inch screen is not enough for "professionals" and 16 inch is too chunky and it looks ridiculous if you want to work from a coffee shop.
Lots of "professionals" don't export videoclips all day and when they need to, they can wait 2 extra minutes.
Brought a M2 15" air with 16gb of Unified memory and it's been perfect. Have a 1tb portable SSD for any work i do. Edit photos and short videos on it perfectly fine. For my first mac it's a great introduction to MacOS.
Glad it came out when it did as i was about to spend far more then comfortable on a 16" Macbook pro which at the time would have been perfect but as of now would be total overkill.
I defo am missing out on some features as somebody who dislikes the iPhone (hate IOS) but the mac is making me want an iPhone for improving tasks and features which i'd use regularly
great configuration!! get a 15 Plus :)
@@NoahHerman Think if i got an iPhone it would be whichever Pro Max is the newest. Huge mobile photographer and need that larger display. 15PM did temp me at release but i cant upgrade until August
Traded a base 15” MacBook Pro M2 for a second hand base M1 Pro 14”. Although the size difference is minimal somehow the 14” fits better at my backpack than the 15”.
This and the new M3 MBA 13" 16gbram 512gb model are both the best for most people honestly.
I am a Graphic Designer and a Photographer from India who works on multiple layers in Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Lightroom Classic, Figma and Canva, also I am planning to start learning video editing using Adobe's Premier Pro or Davinci Resolve and motion graphics using Adobe After Effects.
Currently, I am using an AUS ROG Zephyrus G14 from 2020 with 16 gigs of memory and 1 TB of storage (this is the base model btw which has a Ryzen 5 4600 HS CPU and a Nvidia GTX 1650 ti GPU).
I usually have multiple apps running and this is how it might look on average:
1. Photoshop
2. Illustrator
3. Figma (along with Photoshop on rare scenarios)
4. Lightroom Classic (sometimes along with Photoshop)
3. A browser (2 different ones like Brave and Firefox sometimes),
4. Apple Music,
5. Windows file explorer (4 to 5 tabs),
6. A communication app (like Slack or Teams) and
7. Notion.
So now can you tell me whether a person like me can get away with a decently specced Macbook Air (like a 15-inch model with 24 gigs of memory and 1 TB of storage) instead of a much more powerful Macbook Pro?
I wholeheartedly agree with this verdict! I came back to the Mac over a year ago when I purchased a M2 MacBook Air 13 after spending about four years with a ThinkPad. I wish I could have waited for the 15 inch version. I also went with 24GB RAM as I was constantly running out of RAM on my ThinkPad but if I was doing it again I would either save the money and get 16GB or spend the money on the 1TB storage instead. This MacBook Air is the best daily driver laptop I’ve ever owned.
I have a 15 inch macbook pro from 2018. I def think i like the 15 inch form factor.
At first thinking about the 15 in MacBook Air seems like a steal.. but then you start to add at least 512gb and 16gb of ram… it is just inches away from a 14 in MacBook Pro which is way better in almost every aspect despite being slightly smaller… if Im spending that much already, I might as well get the 14 in MacBook Pro,, just my humble opinion 😊
I was SURE you were going to say a MacBook Pro! I really like the 15" MacBook Air and am looking at that model and actually the MacBook Air M1 from Walmart :)
Completely agree with the revieq Noah. I got a M2 MacBook Air with 24gb RAM and 1 TB ssd and that too for just £1600 from the Apple Refurbished Store in the UK
What if we have a M1 Air 13"?
And it's still sufficient...?
This is what I have! I probably won’t need to update for another year at least. They did the same thing with the 2018 iPad Pro…it’s just too good!
Agreed! Just upgraded my 13” M2 16gb 512 ssd to the 15” M3 16gb 512 ssd. Bigger screen, light form factor and what no one talks about, bigger area to rest your wrists.
Definitely need a home tour of your new place when it's ready!
If I could find a fault, it would be the lack of memory management overall by Apple for their MacOS and Safari. Since the M series chip, many have voiced 'concern' about the issues with the consumption of memory and the lack of releasing memory for other apps, etc. However, for casual day-to-day use, I have to agree (save for Safari) with your take on the Air. I went from a 2015 MBP with the magic choice of 16/512. It served me very well for years. I opted later to try the M1 Mini 1ith the same options and well, wonderful machine but memory was a serious problem I finally ended up with a Studio Max M1 64 gigs RAM as I do some photo edit work. If I had to get a laptop as an addition, I would go with the Air for much of the reasons you give. Noah, as awlays, enjoy your videos.
Other browsers, like Firefox, are much better with RAM than Safari. My workflow involves about eight tabs on Firefox and a few Office apps, and I use about 6GB of RAM. Safari seems to have memory leaks due to how Apple apps handle RAM, meaning websites continue to eat RAM, but Firefox avoids this.
I recently went to check out the macs and I honestly can't get over how smooth the refresh rate is on the pros. If they put 90Hz at least on the macbook airs then they will be the bests laptops money can buy
🤞🏻 for M4's to have 90hz :)
They need to also get speakers comparable to the pros.
When the Macbooks get OLED then I expect dynamic refresh rates. Not sure if that will be the M4 or M5.
2 things 1 - What is that airpods max stand?
And 2 i fell for the hype and started with an m3 pro - but then needed 1tb because 512 was slower - so i got the midgrade 18 core gpu. then i was like well its only a few hundred to go to 36gb so i switched to m3 pro with 36gb. but then you get faster computer at m3 max so i upgraded there. Then i was like oh future proof and i got the 40 core gpu and 2tb and 64 gb and all i do is play games, browse web, emails, watch youtube, and videos, and granted the screen is sick and the computer is instantaneously fast, i find myself 5 months later, looking to downgrade macs and go with either a mac mini as a dedicated plugged in machine, and switch between the new ipad pro's 11' for portability and using while doing cardio in my home gym.
most of my computing comes down to content consumption and emails and web browsing/research/shopping.
i love the idea of the ipad pro and the new ones coming soon are sounding awesome. I want to sell my current macbook pro and i can 75-80% of what i paid back.
my budget will be around 3500 for ipad pro/keyboard and either a new air, pro, mini, or studio. What do you recommend?
where are your framed posters from? they look so good
I think the best Macbook money can buy is Macbook Pro 14 M1 Pro, same cost but better
How is the Lightroom Classic performance of this Air 15 ?? Let's say importing 1000 photos, then scrubbing & editing them, then exporting .. Does it lags ?? I can get by with the importing & exporting but what's more important to me the scrubbing & editing if it lags from scrolling photos to photos ..
It may run smoothly for now. But eventually, it is going to struggle when it can’t use a fan to cool itself down.
Really nicely made video. Unfortunately I feel like you barely said anything -- no original insights. It's good to browse the web on?
yes it is! esp compared to its 13" little brother and models with just 8gb. plus if you watch the rest of the video i comment on using it for productivity, media consumption and some light creative work with the fantastic hardware! but you know, you can choose to listen to and understand whatever you darn well please :)
You’re good! Don’t keep passively telling yourself you have ADHD.. You are better than 90% of CZcamsrs! Just let your subconscious mind take care of it all.. feed it with positivity and you’ll be good!
Cheers 🍻
haha appreciate it ❤️ but fyi i don't say it in a negative way, it's just part of who i am :)
@@NoahHerman Glad to know that brother 😊
Nice content bro.
Actually its wrong that safari sips least power as it takes the highest resources ever
still less than Chrome, afaik
Did he say what color he bought???
Silver
I have a m1 16gig ram MacBook Air….. that thing struggles editing 4k footage.
The M3 is significantly faster, as well as having an encoder/decoder and Ray Tracing. If you are a creator I would not recommend going the cheaper option of the M1, and go straight for the M3 or wait for the M4.
Im planning to buy 15inch m2 8/512 or mbp m3 8/512 or 13inch m3 16/512, what is better for programming as a student?
Take the 16/512 or if you can afford 1to go for it
As an engineer now (i was studying) i wouldn't go less than 16gb ram. You can literally cut on storage and get the 256gb if you have another pc for you. If this is your only machine then 512 is ok.
M1 Pro is still supreme. Go pick up a used one for 700 .
I still think the 15 inch is the ideal for most creative pros. You normally need to travel and you really don’t want to do it with something massive.
Love your videos. I want this computer. Can you please link the blue loveseat and grey chair in the dining room!!!????
what do you think about a MacBook Air M1... 16GB 2TB on the Apple refurb store? They're probably extra inventory and likely new... they are going for 1500$ 600 bux off what a similar M3 spec... plus I like the gold color... I use it as a base for my Quest 3 virtual monitors so 15 is not needed... I'm coming from a MacBook Pro Intel... I looked it up the M1 MBA is 5000 points better on GeekBench Multi-Core than mine... so huge spec bump... thx in advance for your reply!
how i wish i have a 16gb ram for MacBook air.. hehehe
"you know" counter when
i talk like a white dad my bad lmfao
@@NoahHerman 😂 all good, just joking around
Yoo fellas let ke know how shocked am i gonna if im coming from a 2015 MacBook pro 16gb ram 512 storage???
your hairs going to be sticking up straight that's how shocked you're gonna be
It was a night and day difference when I went from a fully loaded 2014 15" to an M1 Air.
Am I the only person who is getting tired of CZcamsrs constantly using the phrase "bang for your buck"? I must hear this 10 times a day LOL. With regards to this MacBook Air 15, it is possibly the worst value laptop on the market anywhere. The the display quality looks terrible by todays standards.
It is an excellent IPS panel, and for those who suffer from PWM flickering, it is the first choice if we cannot afford miniLED. I only do notes and office workloads and watch media, so 120Hz is redundant for me, as I expect for many ultrabook users.