Ebike vs Escooter vs Eskateboard - Which is best for you?
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Ebikes are the best but i just hate bike thieves. Just imagine how expensive they are and someone will just steal in a span of seconds. I wouldn't be able to leave it inside my condo's bike locker nor leave it outside for a quick grocery stop. Also storing them inside my condo unit is a hassle.
I wanted the ebike but was forced to opt to electric kick scooter for portability.
I really, really want police to start doing bait e bikes like they do with cars.
this is a fear of mine as well. if im unable to park and lock my bike somewhere im just not gonna let it out of my sight. its just simply too expensive to have it hitched instantly the moment you stop looking at it for 10 secs. the fact that its electric and clearly capable of going at high speeds makes it a high target. and if its stolen you cant do anything about it unless you put a tracker secretly somewhere on it (maybe inside the battery chassis so they dont see it and try to take it off). but even then some thieves will just straight up scrap it and sell it for parts so the owner wont be able to track it
Get one that has, or add, a key, or app unlock. Get a good lock for it and don't get fat tires so fat it won't fit in conventional bike racks. Put a GPU tracker on it. Get insurance, there are agencies that will insure anything you want to, for any value you want to.
If you have a condo, you don't even have a garage you can put it in? Seems like a bad life choice, but if you live on the first floor, just bring it inside. If you don't live on the first floor, again a bad life choice when it comes to putting your stuff where it's safe. I don't suppose you can add an attached shed with an alarm system?
After falling off a skateboard and cracking my helmet open, I feel like having brakes and riding a bike is a better option for me!
The electric longboards have brakes! Lol I busted my stuff years ago before electric vehicles and never wanted to do it again until I got on an electric longboard I went out and bought one right away dont regret it for a second
@@relaxation2380 Yea I got one recently too, beyond happy. People probably get injured because they have the wrong shoes, buy some skateboarding shoes hi tops that support your ankles and if your scared a helmet, that's all you need. I used to ride down hills with a small skateboard, the electric longboard is much safer and more fun than a bike for me, except in a area with a lot of hills, but even that is fun.
@@alexter001122 I went on a 15% grade hill with a penny board didnt matter what shoes I had on lol
@@relaxation2380 Yea one time I went down a hill on a MINI penny board, and it was so stupid, teenagers right. I did a full flip and luckily landed on my feet, so a longboard is a big step up from that stupidity haha.
@@relaxation2380 btw, what board do you have? I got the meepo v3
I do food delivery, and tried them all out. By far, escooter was the optimal choice. I ended up selling all my microEVs except the escooters, and bought more for my job.
Could you please recommend some best escooter? for food deliveries and my town is a little uphill.
@@WanderTeba the best option is modified xiaomi Pro I think. Its an overpriced product, but easy to modify like with Rita, and you can then keep changing batteries when it starts to run out externally. You could do that with almost any escooter and save money, but it would be much harder.
Is ebike not a better option? I live in uk and plans taking it on monthly payment
@@WanderTeba ebike is better for long distance, but it's not very comfortable to be in that position for 8 hours a day. If your back can handle it is a less hassle because you don't have to worry about the battery capacity as much as escooters. But the cons are also its more expensive, you have to park it each delivery while you can just walk into apartments with an escooter so it's quicker and you need a storage area.
Then i think it’s better to go for escooter as i will stop in middle of deliveries for rest can charge at that time or can get a spare battery.what do you say?@12ken.
I prefer e scooters I guess it's personal preference, I really enjoy your content because it's chilled out and informative, I cant believe I wasn't aware of electric unicycles until I watched your videos. It goes to show you learn something every day. Great videos 😎👍
Bike for cruising, scooter for commuting, skating for fun :)
I like the way you present your videos, just chilling outside like having a normal conversation. Great content Micah. An ebike would be awesome for me to go to work, still saving up to assemble one. Really learning a lot from your videos 👍
Good pros & cons synopsis. E-bikes (and motorcycles) are also my favorites now...
but the occasional scooter or skateboard ride is a lot of fun.
Another great video! Your presentation style is really good. Easy to follow and understand. As an older person I can tell you the e-bike is about my only option. The older you get the more balance you lose and your agility is just not what it used to be. That's just a fact of life. There are older people who still use a scooter or skateboard but they are certainly not the norm. Thanks for the video.
I really love that the micro mobility scene has so many options to get around. I guess because you don't need a huge loan to afford one, companies can afford to try all sorts of ideas.
Hi Micah! I really enjoyed this overview of all of the different types of electric mobility options available today!
been contemplating if i’m going to get escoot or ebike. You made making decisions much easier. thanks!
I’ve been longboarding for probably 15 years, I got on my friend’s e-skateboard, I nearly killed myself immediately, it’s completely different having the board suddenly be a variable instead of a constant.
Ye true I think e scooters are the best for urban use
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Go ahead and type another novel that won’t get read.
I'm the opposite I hated having to kick push and no brakes with the brakes and not wearing myself out it's way better!
I’m 67 and love all’s ☮️💪🏻
never tried a e-scooter, but do have an e-sk8, and e-bike - one day i'll try one out. another great video - look forward to the next video.
My preference is the eScooter over eBike, eSkateboard, etc. after years riding ICE motorcycle and scooter all my life. Why? They are just so darn fun! I live in San Francisco and commute locally on my modified Xiaomi M365 Pro when I don't drive. The portability of the eScooter is amazing since I use my eScooter in conjunction with public transportations. In addition, the eScooter blends in with the rental eScootes scatter around the city, hence minimize the probability of thief although a good u-lock is a must. I installed front suspension and larger 10" puematic tires, and the ride quality is amazing. The FWD Xiaomi scooter has issues with the hills in the city so I am planning to convert it into an AWD in the near future. Once this is done, it will be a perfect eScooter for the city.
Watching some of your video helped a lot since I am planning to build a larger battery pack to power the 2nd motor, and over-voltage them to get better performance (speed and torque).
How about covering three and four wheel options? This is the best channel for information keep up the excellent work!
Working on my 1st ev motorcycle. Love the channel. Great Help.
Nice explanation of the multiple different modes of transportation.
Ebikes are the best for me, riding with bafang bbshd motor for almost 3 years, it's perfect. For someone who needs portability there is no problem since there are folding bikes, they are portable enough.
Scooter could be the best! I love you scooter reviews!! “Entire different animals” I crack my self
thanks for laying down all the different electric options
I got a light folding bike. Because I live in town, in a downstairs apartment which means to get outside I also need to go upstairs. I wanted a bike cause I feel pedaling allows for more exercise than basically standing and leaning. I might be oversimplifying that however.
Really good to watch. For someone in the eBIKE world you can talk about all other options as you ride them since kid. Really enjoyed watching! :)
You really hit the nail on the head when you said portability on e scooters. I was late in the game but I am addicted to e scooters. I can put it in the trunk of the car and go to parks and tourist areas. Fold it and go inside.
10:40 Onewheel is definitely not safer than e-skateboard. Onewheel has a design flaw which it can tip forward and send the user face plant directly to the ground at high speed.
Hi Micah, I’m curious about folding bikes for traveling with a solar enabled camper trailer. What characteristics/models might I look at for a do anything e-bike that will handle trails to gravel to street efficiently, as well as be fun, durable, and a good grocery getter.
Agreed, EUC, esk8, and onewheel are fun. EUC probably had the highest learning curve for me. Ebike with pedal assist is the best for getting exercise, for utility, and for riding at night with lights. I think it was inevitable - two days ago I ran my esk8 into a pickup truck when the brakes failed to engage. They were so reliable ...until they weren't. Normally I jump off the esk8 if I suddenly see an unexpected pothole or other danger where I couldn't brake in time and then engage the brake as I'm jumping off, but the failure of the brakes surprised me this time so I completely forgot what I'd practiced and rode the esk8 right under the parked truck and bent my legs underneath. PPE did its job, though, and protected my hands, wrists, elbows, head and back. Sadly I neglected to wear knee pads that day and now I have some nice road rash on my knee. Could have been worse...
great comparison, pros & cons
you just earned a sub
Hi , I am just starting to look for an ebike and have been watching your channel for useful insight into my first purchase. While I'm not quite sure which brand I'll wind up with I am looking at wide tire options for offroad excursions as well as being a daily ride. Though I watch others you have been the most informative the reason I ultimately subscribed.
Great video !
Awesome learning about the different options
keep to the great videos! it's like to get into electric unicycling, but I have no idea where to start
This video is one which i was looking for
Awesome video! One video idea (something I can't easily find on CZcams) is a video showing examples of specific torque levels at different inclines from mid-drive motors, just to see what "x" nm of torque on a "x"% incline looks like in real life
Many thanks for the nice comparison. Excellent video!
Great Video, on how to choose the right one for you. Thanks
Cool stuff as usual.
Thanks for all the great info!
Hey Micah, a question I'd love to see you answer is how to play around with (and even hack) the standard ebike controller/readout screen. Even pointing us toward online resources for that. The lack of finish in the chinese UI's, plus poor documentation, means that it's challenging to learn what the settings even mean, let alone how to tweak them to make it fit our needs. Thanks! Love these videos.
I just put a down payment on a BBSHD Ebike from a private builder. I'm told there is a shortage on the motors right now and it may take a while, so I'm nervous and hopefully excited. I need to try and be patient.... I've learned a lot from all my research lately though. Those Eskateboards look neat.
Thanks for the video, well explained.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
An ebike is definitely the most well rounded option, but I love my escooter and ride it all the time because it's fun. I use it to commute to the gym or around town and it's nice to be able to throw it in my car or store it in my closet. My non-electric bike is too big for the car and, while it gets me around without the concern of a battery dying, it's just not all that much fun.
Great channel, helpful video.
I’ve been looking heavily into Personal Electric Vehicles a lot lately and I’m leaning toward an electric unicycle. Up to 30+ mph and 50+ mi range on top of being the most compact and portable compared to a scooter or bike
Also high power ebikes are a lot more expensive than high power scooters and EUCs
Actually the Lextric XP 2.0 is 1k
What happened to the "DIY electric motorcycle" project? I would like to see a playlist from a similar project.
Restaurant? What is a restaurant? I have a veg memory from childhood about it.
Another great videos . Thanks
I would definitely choose an e-bike over the other choices.
Hey Micah, I'm thinking of building an ebike, and I read in some forum that sine wave controller don't match w all motors, but I can't quite understand why. Is it because not all motors have Hall sensor? Thanks, congrats for your videos, they're awesome
This is coming from somebody who owned all of them - I think the interactive feeling of an ebike is the best. Everything else feels too passive but when you’re on an ebike you could still get some good exercise with a low level of pedal-assist. I also got some weird hip and back pain from my e-scooter so I don’t ride it as much. I think an ebike is the most comfortable option and you can mount a lot more onto a bike than a scooter/board.
Thank you sir for so much of information that your providing online,I really wanna meet you and learn alot from you and make something futuristic ebike, but it's a bit tough for me to travel to your country from India ,but one day ,I will come and meet you.
I’m enjoying your videos! What 360 camera do you use for your action shots?
Great video, here's my book entry
New Subscriber. Love the education.
I have 3 escooters and 2 ebikes, all different types and choose the most optimal for that trip I need!
Ur ballin lmao
@@Ryantheman2023 it's still 20 times cheaper than petroleum and car maintanace, are all car owners filthy rich then?
12ken eh ur right about that Lmaoo 😂
U could buy 100 electric boards with the maintenance of a car
12ken help me out tho I can’t choose between scooter and board
@@Ryantheman2023 yeah lol board as in hover board? I used to have a one wheel, it was really fun but not useful for anything else. Escooters on the other hand are very useful. If you get a proper one, you can replace a car for commuting and travel. It all depends on what your application is. What do you plan to use it for?
Hi, thanks for a great program and informative videos.
You mention EUC's in the video, have you ever been riding an Electric UniCycle going 30 miles per hour?
I'll bet that you'll love it, and get a rush from it.
I've been riding a lot of different e.transportation vehicles but the EUC'S are really amazing especially in the last year, a lot of new "wheels" are being introduced.
Keep trying it gets so much more fun on an EUC😜
Kindly
Mikael
Denmark
There are tons of citycoco type electric scooter users out there.. pleaseee make a video for them,, for example most of them can make 45 km/h as top speed. You can show us couple of upgrade options for their speed.
I prefer a e-bike, but due to an above knee amputation and balance issues I use an electric trike (recumbent tadpole) it is not as good for maneuverability, and it is horrible off road, but it is far better than nothing. It is also a great way to get some cardio in when you can not run, or even walk, more than a very short distance. I credit my trike with getting me walking again at all, after over a decade stuck in a wheelchair 24/7.
Also, something I've noticed as a consideration between these is the quality of the ride on the road. Once I boosted the speed of my bike with a motor, potholes and bad pavement became an issue... I'm switching to fatter tires and under inflating them, and someday will move my kit onto a suspension bike. With the smaller, harder wheels of the sk8s and scooters, they make every sidewalk crack jarring. Do you have advice for a setup (softer/larger wheels? Trucks with springs?) that would add some 'give' for a smoother ride?
I just acquired a 1970's Raleigh Chopper for nothing and would love to convert it to an eBike. Any suggestions as to which drive method might be best ? Thanks.
Yet another great video - I'll have any of the books please if I'm lucky enough to be picked ;-)
Recently I've seen people using home-made spot welders to build their batteries. Most of them are based on a microwave transformer. Would you recommend using them? If so it would be awesome to see you building one!!
Just started building a cheap e-longboard (my first PEV). Never really thought about the learning curve since I have experience with skateboards since I was little, but now I get that it can be scary for some people. Didn't want an e-scooter even though it's super popular now because I still don't like how you look.
Yes I wish I had more skating experience as a kid like you. I don't think starting with an electric skateboard is wise - you should really learn on a standard skateboard first so you learn how to control it. For you it feels second nature, but most people (me included) had to develop those skills later on, unfortunately.
crashing on my ebike was bad enough.. I can't imagine flipping off of the other e-options.
Great video
Hi Micah! I have an old ebike that uses SLA batteries, and I lost the charger. Does it require a different type of charger then a lithium ion battery charger?
Hello, I saw one your video regarding headlights for ebike, I would like to install 2 headlights on a electric kick scooter by Kaabo model is Mantis Pro. I want to directly tap the headlight with a handle switch to the battery of the scooter. Can you please tell me should I get the Ultimate DIY ebike book or the DIY lithium Batteries book to be able to do the job? Thanks.
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Nice video!
Compare eBikes, eScooter like Zero11x or Mantis and a unicycle like the inmotion v11, please. I was told, the inmotion v11 is a game changer, and unicycles are much more useful for daily commuting, but also better regarding fun and off road, freestyle, acrobatics!
I live in a very hilly area of San Diego And I'm on the fence about using a 48 Vlt 1000watt motor rear hub or a 52 vlt 1500watt, rear Hub I'm about 250lbs and I want to be able to go up steep hills that's a couple miles long. at a decent rate of speed then cruse along the beach. What would you recommend?
I'm now up to 8 electric vehicles. 2 bikes, 2 scooters, 1 skateboard and 3 EUCs. The lack of range puts me off the OneWheel. But it's EUCs all the way for me. 2 big plus points over other things. They can play music and people can't ask to have a go and ride off.
Which eSkateboard would you recommend regarding fun, and/or commuting? something like a Baja board, or something with street wheels? I am a newbie, from what I have read, there are Baja board boards, but also similar, a bit smaller boards with off road AND onroad wheels included! Which one would you recommend? Maybe you can make a comparison about this aspect?
Love my electric chopper bikes. My question is there a way to make my bike go faster? Its built using a kaishan 500 scooter. Its 36v 500watt 48v 25 amp hour battery pack.
Question: I own a ProdecoTech Phantom 400 V6 eBike. It came with a 36-Volt 10.2 amp hour (I think) battery which lasted one year of everyday use and now won’t hold a charge anymore. I opened the case of the battery, but it looks too complex for me to tackle. What can I do? I live in Baltimore, Maryland.
I'm using a scooter and I love it ... Mostly using it because of mix of portability, safety and speed.
Those one wheels look neat. Any thoughts on a diy one wheel?
Great video! By the way, what`s The brand of that helmet?
Mika I have your book I’d like to have more information on prismatic cells or Lipo4 cells for my trIke build build I just don’t understand wiring and stuff 72 V 50ah or larger.
Well made and informative video. i personally have an e skate and im head over heels in love with it. I agree that its inherently more dangerous than a bike or scooter, but man, its sooo much fun. The adrenaline just hits me like a sledgehammer when flying down the road 40km/h. Life is too short to always play it safe
I really want that book.
I just ordered a segway Ninebot es4 the non folding version for half price 👍👍👍
nano motors are better than switch, you should review them. What I love most is the ability to have a Bosch 36v battery
friend I have a question and I need your help. I make deliveries with my ebike. I wanted to trade the two batteries I have for just one. I have a 1000W motor and my motor brushless controller is 26amp limits, if I replace the motor brushless controller to one with a high amperage, I could use a 48V-40ah battery?
You didn't mention hoover boards in this video. What do you think of them? (Maybe you've covered them before but I just found your site today)
/Christian from Sweden
Is it possible to put regenative breaking (maybe front hub motor) to bafang mid drives?
Thanks, nice video
Hi, I'm new to your channel, but I have a question, I'm not really sure if you already answered this before, but well, I'm a heavy men, 300 pounds but I'm looking to get a new ebike, which one do you recommend??? Also I'm looking for something affordable and I will used it just 2 to 3 days a week to work out. Thank you
how should I dimension a solar system to be able to charge (maybe in 6hours) the batttery pack?
I set out to build my own e-bike. I wanted a strong reliable bike as I live in a hilly area. I purchased a Bafang BBSHD and a 52 volt battery. Now I'm getting an error code 07. My seller told me Bafang is no longer making the motor for 52 volts. I'm about $1,200.00 in the hole and wondering what options are available. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If choosing scooter (and especially skateboard) and living in the US, make sure you have good health insurance. I broke my wrist in the first 30 mins just practicing. Had to get surgery T.T
I see it like this: ebike if you need to carry stuff or go over lots of bad terrain (big wheels are superior for going over curbs and potholes), scooter if you're mostly sticking to decent roads or want to squeeze through tight places, skateboard if you're going to only ride on very good road or need to carry it on your person a lot.
Good video.
hi what is more power full scooter 48v 2000watt hub motor with a 2000ah speed controller or a scooter or ebike 48v 2000watt hub motor with 2000watt speed controller witch one is more powerful and will have more speed
I prefer escooters. Cheaper, more protable, have seat options, no need for pedaling at all, less maintenance, etc. Escooters are also the fastest if you considering higher end (70mph+).
I'm making a 8s12p battery for my AT mountainboard and I would love to try out the Vruzend kit. But 88 cells force me to get 176 blocks. Anyway you can help me with my diy project? Like a sponsorship or a discount in a trade for translation to Portuguese of your things? Let me know. Awesome work you make in each video. Saudações de Portugal.
HI I NEED HELP I HAVE A EBIKE KIT 72V 2000W I HAVE A 48V 1000W 20AH BATTERY BUT I JUST BOUGHT A NEW BATTERY ITS A 60V 2100W 35AH WHEN I PUT THE NEW BATTERY IN THE BIKE DONT POWER UP THE DISPLAY
Hey Micah.. Keep up the good work.. Awesome vids.. crisp and to the point.. On an unrelated note could u pl tell me how u shoot these moving clips like at 0:08 to 0:13 and then 0:42 and lastly 1:55... Hoping u can help...
Btw Im from India and sadly not too much choice with ebikes but am dying to own one... Preferably a really torquey one with fwd which shud be able to do wheels spins on demand... ;-)
Even the 7:58 bit on the e board with the cam panning all around.. is it all just with a disappearing stick and a 360 cam ?
Micah, can you do a video reviewing different 48v batteries from aliexpress - there are some which are 25000mah yet only cost £70? a scam?
e scooter is perfect for me. safe, portable and slow enough so you dont worry about thef, you can carry it anywhere. it is very cool to ride it on the beach shore roads too.