How To Code Cut a Key with a Key Duplicator
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Today’s video were are going to learn how to code cut (originate) keys using my manual Silca Flash 008 key duplicator. This is a handy technique because when a key duplicator is coupled with space and depth keys you will be able to originate keys without needing to have the original!
This video is aimed at enthusiasts or small start up lock smiths. After watching this you will be able to understand how to code cut keys of your own. Using a key duplicator is a much more affordable option for those just starting out!
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Nice job. I'm just starting in my locksmith journey so I'm happy to know of other ways to make key cuttings than expensive machines or somewhat stressful hand cutting.
I am glad this helped. This machine is $499 new but you can get used machines even cheaper. As long as you are not cutting many different types of keys this is a viable option to start
I am so glad you started lock picking we want more people to join the lock picking community
Just found your channel. It is on my favorite list right after the lock picking lawyer and bosnian bill.
thank you for the kind words
Nice demonstration 👍
Thanks for checking it out!
Great video Thank you for taking the time to make this
Thanks for checking it out 😀
Great job my friend
thank you for the kind words :-)
It can help to start by cutting the highest cut to all positions, and then cut the rest lower as needed. That gives some good marke and better slopes
Thanks for sharing. There were a couple of things that I could have done different but my goal is to make it as straightforward as possible. Hopefully anyone with any additional questions will check out the comments :-)
This is how I also was taught to use space & depth keys. For a 63467: Cut a 3 depth all the way across. The select the 4 depth key and cut positions 1 and 3-5, then cut the 6 depth in position 1 and 4, and lastly a 7 depth in position 5. I just do it this way. Your individual cuts are fine also.
Nice! It's never occurred to me to do it this way. Thanks!
Thank you for checking it out
Good video this is how i make keys for locks ive picked to turn into challenge locks, but i do struggle a bit sometimes as i only have a set of universal space and depth keys, i find the centre punch works great the alignment it can be a bit tricky by eye though sometimes
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome :) thanks
Thanks for checking it out
Do you ever run into problems with the backwards angle from one cut to another by doing this? I recently cut a KW1 and it went from 1 to 5. The duplicator I have left a steep upward angle and I had to manually file it down. I should say the cutter is flat on one side and angled on the other.
VERY well done video! The devil's in the details, and you nailed it.
Thank you for the kind words!
Good demo -- Obviously you could have cut the #6 depth in space 1 and also space 4 while you had the #6 depth key in place to save a bit of time. This is perhaps most useful when you do not have a working key, but can use a Lishi (or disassemble the lock to measure the key pins), to decode so you can originate a key in this fashion.
I agree, and then it's an excellent point to bring up :-) I avoided doing that because I wanted to make the video as straightforward as possible. Thank you for suggesting this video a few weeks back!
Thank you for the video, it was interesting for me, as I am just starting to research all things related to being a Locksmith.
I have only been looking for a couple of days, and have started asking about the different training methods out there. Do you feel a self-study type of course, where you have videos of the main areas a Locksmith will need to know, along with training aids and course material is worth investing in to start learning to become a Locksmith?
I've seen a couple of courses that are designed as hands on workshops, but obviously those were designed prior to the pandemic. So remote options seem to be the way to get started, but I'm asking those who have been in the industry for their advice.
I don't see why you couldn't to a self-study. My friend who is a full time locksmith is self-taught and has grown his business over time.
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you, that's good to know, and encouraging as well.
Good idea 💡 and great video with the 3 different views
Thanks for checking it out!
This is EXACTLY what I wanted to know, tonight. I've learned that I need space-and-depth keys, and what they are. That I must know my pinning, and that I need to basically "trace" the SAD keys. (It's not sad at all! :)
Boom! Now let's say that I pick random pins out of a bunch, I can literally make up random keys for randomly pinned locks.
Thank you.
By the way, can you tell us the make and model of the key cutter you're using? It seems small, quiet and effective. I presume that it came at a reasonable price.
Ilco Flash 008 Key Machine
On some machines, jaw has hard time grapping or holding on narrow height key (not enough metal to attach to) in place for a good cut. Any advise?
I have not run into this because I do not typically duplicate small keys I would use my code cutter.
Where did you get that key cutter at? I'd love to buy a cheaper machine to play around with and get into the hobby
CLK Suplly. Pretty sure they did a drop ship
Great tutorial! P.S. Considering that your machine has a cutter wheel with a single angle, how were you able to make the cuts with 45 degree slopes in both directions(As opposed to ones with a 90 degree rearward slope)?
I honestly haven't though of the mechanics behind it. The cutter wheel is pretty thin as opposed to the wider ones on the code machine. It is even thinner than the CW1011 used for Master Lock
@@HelpfulLockPickerwait…..is that the reason I can’t get a perfect master pro 6000B copy on my silica 44? Have the stock cutter…is that to thick for master pros? Keys work but take a good wiggle front to back. No shoulder so using the front stop and the aligner. Good video!
Cool 😎
Thank you for checking it out
how price I want one piece
When you are cutting to each position, are you eye balling it? How do you know what position?
The flat part is the position
Do you make those space and depth keys?
I can
I wonder if one could 3D print a key first, then use it as the one to duplicate. That way, the slopes, depths, etc. can be controlled. It isn't necessary to duplicate the ridges along the key as you're only interested in the cuts.
I actually wanted to try something similar but I lack the printer 😞
Simple but clever way of making a duplicate key. I guess this method is much cheaper than buying a coded machine.
It's definitely cheaper but not easier. Thanks for checking it out 😀
hOW MUCH ARE KEY DUPLICATORS LIKE THE ONE YOU USED? thanks Mal in BC
This one was $499 new but you can certainly get this one cheaper used
@@HelpfulLockPicker Do you have a link for the duplicator you use?
price
How will you know if the key is jor A or B
mbausa.com/content/flash-008-manual-english%20%281%29.pdf
hmm... this cutting method kinda falls in between. locksmiths are likely to invest in automatic or at least blitz as they do faster and easier job, and return the investment quickly. hobbyists will likely to use files or a cheaper method to cut only few times daily at most. but to me seems there will be a niche that will find the tool useful. thanks for the cool video!
Thanks for checking it out!
First
Thanks for checking it out!
I want one piece
How do I make space-and-depth keys???