Porter Cable Restorer Vs. Eastwood Contour SCT - Head to Head Comparison

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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2017
  • In this video we take a look at two drum sander / surface preparation tools and compare them to one another. Namely the Porter Cable Restorer Versus the Eastwood Contour SCT.
    How does the Porter Cable Restorer stack up against the Eastwood Contour SCT? Check out this video to find out!
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  • @robynsolomon3957
    @robynsolomon3957 Před 6 lety +22

    This is the only video I've seen online where there is no rambling, hesitation, repeating the same thing over and over. Simple, direct, concise and informative. I've never seen a better presentation. Good work.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety +1

      Robyn Solomon thank you. That is encouraging to hear. Rambling reviews that repeat the same information and miss other bits drive me nuts. So I do my best to present things clearly and concisely. Good to know it is appreciated.

  • @MrFireman164
    @MrFireman164 Před 4 lety +11

    Thanks for the review, it never ceases to amaze me that people take the time to do reviews and show people how to do things only to be criticized and berated, it really shows how unhappy people are with their lives. Thanks for what you do!

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you very much. I always welcome constructive criticism but yea, some people I just don't get. If I really don't like a video, I usually just stop watching and go find one I will look. Seems like some people seek out ones to hate. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @MrFireman164
      @MrFireman164 Před 4 lety +1

      HotRodHippie absolutely

  • @papalilburn
    @papalilburn Před 4 lety +1

    Great video, really made my mind up to go for the Porter Cable Restorer!

  • @thomshere
    @thomshere Před 5 lety +7

    I noticed that the Eastwood SCT now has a 3 year warranty as well. Great video btw., thanks for doing it! Good honest tool reviews are always appreciated!

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety +2

      An improved warranty is a great thing to hear. One thing I really dislike is how limited many tool warranty offerings are. So that's great. Thank you.

    • @brandonpeterman9964
      @brandonpeterman9964 Před 4 lety +1

      Eastwood consumables are about $20 now

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 4 lety

      The flap drum / light duty scotchbrite drums are, but the heavy stripping drum is still $50. That is the one I find the most useful in material removal personally. Great to see the others coming down in price though.

  • @paulcorona642
    @paulcorona642 Před 7 lety +1

    Sold! Ima get the porter cable this week!

  • @terrystephens9227
    @terrystephens9227 Před 5 lety +1

    Great. Thorough review, thanks. Good info.

  • @tommahnke
    @tommahnke Před 2 lety

    Great review, to the point and great information. Thank you.

  • @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz
    @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz Před 2 lety +3

    8:00 slow spooling up is considered to be a feature that tool makers put in on purpose. It allows you to put the tool on the surface and start moving it before it really bites in in one location. This feature becomes more important when you get to high grit metal polishing, not so much on rough stuff you were doing in the video.

  • @xdeepseadiver
    @xdeepseadiver Před 4 lety +1

    Great video well said. Straight to the point. thanks

  • @HotRodHippie
    @HotRodHippie  Před 4 lety +3

    Reminder this review is over 3 Years Old. Since this:
    -Eastwood has Upped the SCT warranty to 3 Years also, AND lowered prices on SOME of their abrasive drums. As well as coming out with expanded tooling and lowering the price of the tool itself. - www.eastwood.com/eastwood-contour-sct.html
    -The Restorer has come out with newer and better tooling options as well. And the Creator has been known to seek out anyone having issues with the Restorer to either replace, repair, or provide new parts for them. I feel that his Customer Service efforts are relevant to the review of the tool itself. Also the tool is now available from other companies with slight modifications, such as Craftsman.

  • @roccoelleto9900
    @roccoelleto9900 Před 5 lety +1

    Great reviews. Thanks

  • @PBS-nm1uu
    @PBS-nm1uu Před 6 lety +1

    great demo thanks for the info..

  • @MrMander87
    @MrMander87 Před 3 lety

    Great review. Thanks!

  • @jongipson1454
    @jongipson1454 Před 4 lety +1

    I bought the Eastwood and love it .

  • @alexonder1545
    @alexonder1545 Před 6 lety +4

    Nice review I would buy the Porter for price and weight

  • @foxbodybuild6637
    @foxbodybuild6637 Před 6 lety +1

    Great review.

  • @3campingguys431
    @3campingguys431 Před 2 lety +1

    It was interesting to hear the differences between the two tools. The video was clearly biased towards the PC product. Due to my past experience, I would consider the Eastwood tool to outlast due to design. Also they now have the same warranty of 3 years. And the concern about spooling up / down, that is what I know when I had an angle grinder back 40 years ago. I also still have that angle grinder! And talk about spooling up or down, try using a bench grinder. LOL What I see is that the PC is a DIY and the Eastwood is industrial.

  • @sleeks9939
    @sleeks9939 Před 6 lety +1

    I just seen a video of Kevin Tate from Eastwood using the Porter Cable Restore. 😁 HE REALLY REALLY LOVED IT.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety +3

      G FUNKERA the Contour is not a bad product but for my money I just prefer the Porter Cable Restorer. I've seen videos of Kevin using the Restorer as well. He is also the former spokesman of Eastwood, so that may be something to consider when he's selling a product. I'm not trying to speak ill of him. I've met the man and he is nice, just noting the reality of the situation.

  • @ffakr
    @ffakr Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the review.
    I'm about to order a Porter Cable drum sander. I've been happy with their drill/driver set for light-duty home restoration work in my farmhouse. They're not the best on the market but they're well-built, thoughtfully designed, good value, and I expect them to hold up well... so I have high hopes for the drum sander.
    Quick comment before I get my hands on the Porter Cable though, because I'll likely not remember to come back.
    You mentioned that the PC has a [potentially] more sturdy design with support at both ends of the drum. Unfortunately, I've seen several reviews at that A* site where the owners claimed the plastic drum cover/support broke on them after limited use. One user said they contacted PC for warranty support on it and got a replacement part in 5 days.
    Given the price, I'm willing to risk occasional problems with the reliability of the tool. I will plan to save the receipt (and an image of the receipt) and register it (if required) as soon as I receive it just in case I need to get replacement parts in the future.
    Other considerations for me... My immediate need is a better method of brushing off the thoroughly dried old (likely lead) paint from my exposed 135YO first floor joists before I re-frame the basement for a woodworking shop. (135YO pine soaks up Teak oil like you wouldn't believe). So far, a brass-wire brush on an angle-drill has worked best over everything else I've tried... especially to get the finish off while retaining grain and tool-marks,... but that's awful slow going and awful messy. The relatively low weight will be important for the over-head work and the dust collection is extremely important. Later I'll likely use it on a ladder when I get back to pulling the cedar shake that was added over the original clap-board on the exterior. I'll come back with real feedback if I remember to.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety

      I have heard of that support cap breakage as well. As I see it (and from using it extensively now) I truly think the breakage is user error. When changing the drums it is possible to not really close the door right, and if you try to force the latch one of the ears will give and break off. The inventor of the product is a great guy that I communicate with regularly now and he is quick to send out replacement parts for folks. That opinion though is my own. I've had this thing for a year or so now and haven't had any issues at all.
      They offer a stainless steel wire wheel for it now that may work out well for your needs. amzn.to/2rJ4xeT
      Though I could see it being a little aggressive on the wood as well.

    • @ffakr
      @ffakr Před 6 lety +1

      The PC Restorer arrived. Limited testing so far and I won't have time to spend a lot of time with it for a while, but so far I can report...
      The Dust Collection works!
      I don't recommend what I did to test it out (I was being lazy) but I was able to make some passes and remove very old chalky paint from the overhead beams in my basement without additional eye-wear (just prescription glasses) and without feeling like I was huffing dust (no mask either). I just hooked up my small 5Gal Sears dust vac and off I went.
      It doesn't catch everything but it did catch the vast majority of the cast-off. I'll don the appropriate protective gear when I'm ready to clean larger sections and fire up my filter-covered box fan and big dust collector because I'm sure the little that got past the dust port will build up in the air if I'm using this for an extended period in a closed space.
      As I expected, the lowest speed settings didn't work with the impregnated pad that's included for paint removal. It needs more power & probably some inertia to keep from bogging down. Ran fine at about 50% speed. I didn't want to go any faster without having my mask and goggles on so i can't comment about out well it captures dust a full speed.
      I clipped off a couple small bits that stood particularly proud of the surface of the paint-removal drum before using and didn't have problems with excessive hopping.
      The unit is quite light.. which will be much appreciated when I'm working overhead or hanging off a ladder 25' up, knocking loose paint off my siding.
      And.. it works. A single pass wiped all the old paint off my beams in the section I tried it on... but it left the underlying texture and tool marks in place. After trying stiff plastic brushes, abrasive impregnated brushes, wire brushes, paint-removal pads on drills, sanding... the only other thing that worked as well was a brass wire brush on an angle drill... and that was taking forever. This thing is 10x faster and it releases a heck of a lot less dust and debris around the work-area. Also, what it does throw off goes out in one direction so I can eject the cast-off into the work area and not toward the part of my basement that is tarp'ed-off and still in semi-regular use.
      One interesting bit.. It came with some regular sanding sleeves, one thicker replacement drum with a paint stripping pad on it, and a couple other sleeves that I wasn't expecting. They seem to be sanding pad sleeves.. low profile, clearly different than the grit-on-paper sleeves. The manual notes them (I believe) as "sanding pads" or something similar, but it doesn't offer any suggestions on when I should use them over regular sanding sleeves. I don't recall seeing a grit # on them either.
      ** I just noticed you posted another video about these pads. You called them scotch-brite pads there. I'll take another look at mine when I get home, but my first impression after looking at them was that they were more than just a simple scotch-brite pad... I thought they had an abrasive resin on them too. I did consider using them on some cast-iron tool beds but my head's mostly into woodworking and I didn't consider using them as primary metal finishing pads.. their inclusion makes more sense now.
      So far so good. I wish I'd have bought this way back when I first saw it.. I'd way farther along in my basement remodel if I had.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety

      Schmartist Munky so only recently used the evacuation on the Restorer for the first time and was thoroughly impressed with how well it worked.

  • @littlebeebs1
    @littlebeebs1 Před rokem

    The price is now ridiculous on the porter cable drums versus the Eastwood. I am really wanting to buy the Bauer SCT version. And then buy the Eastwood wheels or the knock off wood wheels. I have the restorer. But I use mine to raise grain on wood with the nylon drum. I could use the extra weight of the SCT to help raise the grain better than having to push so hard on the restorer . Great video. Thank you so much!

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před rokem

      Buying direct from the designer opens up options for the Restorer some. Pricing has definitely changed. The $150 Bauer tool is a LOT more compelling of a value these days. Consumables seem to be, some of the SCT cheaper, some of the Restorer cheaper.
      Here is the Restorer website if you weren't aware: www.restorertools.com/shop/

  • @andrewhudson3723
    @andrewhudson3723 Před 5 lety +7

    I have the Eastwood Contour SCT and I like it. I am stripping 4 coats of paint/primer off a car and am half done. I find that I don't switch hands very often. When working on a car, the weight of the tool is on the paint.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 4 lety

      My Problem is on the sides of a car. Doors, Fenders, Quarter panels, you are supporting more of the weight in those circumstances.

    • @maxie9506
      @maxie9506 Před 3 lety

      How many wheels would you say you'd go through with the Eastwood?

    • @andrewhudson3723
      @andrewhudson3723 Před 3 lety +1

      @@maxie9506 I would say two coarse wheels (gray) and 2 red wheels (medium). This was for a large 50's car with thick paint. A regular car might be half that. This is for about 16 hours of stripping. Did NOT scratch the metal at all.

    • @andrewhudson3723
      @andrewhudson3723 Před 3 lety

      I bought my extra wheels on amazon for cheap.

    • @maxie9506
      @maxie9506 Před 3 lety

      @@HotRodHippie any ideas on how to get into those hard to reach places?

  • @cnccarving
    @cnccarving Před 4 lety +3

    i was hesitating much and purchased one works like the east wood
    after your video i buy the portercable too
    like much as it designed
    its price also much convincing
    the porter cable also was sold under craftsman and black n decker too
    those already not sold no where

  • @dirkdiggler5821
    @dirkdiggler5821 Před 3 lety

    What I would love to see the Eastwood compared to is the Metabo..that thing is crazy expensive and I would love to see exactly why that is.
    Great comparison here though and appreciated.

  • @eclypse3d
    @eclypse3d Před 4 lety +1

    The spooling up thing is most likely a motor preservation thing so as not to burn out the 9amp motor, in order to make it ramp up fast you would need a capacitor to be energized before the motor turns, then you would shoot a very high voltage shot to have that drum ramp up faster, great for speed and changing hands but bad for motor longevity.

  • @johnnorris1227
    @johnnorris1227 Před rokem

    The real test would be to try on both on something with a rough surface like a old rough sawn wood beam. Supposedly the porter cable bounces around alot on stuff like that and it'd be interesting to see if that Eastwood did the same which I highly doubt due to the extra heft of the tool.

  • @stevewuertz3598
    @stevewuertz3598 Před 5 lety +1

    Nice tight review. Well done. Question I have is how do the price of consumables vary if at all.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      I'm fairly sure I mentioned that in the video. The consumables differ quite a bit. The black stripping wheel I used in this video is a perfect example. The Contour SCT version is $59.99 from Eastwood right now. The Porter Cable version is $19.99 from Home Depot.
      In fairness the Eastwood one is 1" wide and a larger diamater, so you are getting more wheel for the money. However I can't say it's worth 3 times the price.
      One of the Porter Cable wheels lasts me quite a while. I'm careful not to catch edges or holes with it but that's a simple task usually.

    • @stevewuertz3598
      @stevewuertz3598 Před 5 lety +1

      @@HotRodHippie Thanks-I appreciate your responding. I'd always known the EWood drum would be pricey-but sometimes that is worth it. If the drum lasts 5X as long but is priced at 2X the PC, the cost to do the job is much lower with the EW.
      I've had good luck with several PC DA sanders so I lean towards them. The weight seems to be an issue with fatigue and while the EW sander has higher amps, brute force is not always what I look for-a little finesse prevents later reworking.
      Great video-thanks

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah I never got the chance to do long term testing between the two sadly. Maybe someday I will come back around to it. Sadly I sold the Eastwood right after this video because I have to fund this channel production.

    • @brandonpeterman9964
      @brandonpeterman9964 Před 4 lety

      Eastwoods consumables are about $20 now some are still pricey but that's mainly the buffing drums

  • @steveadams4009
    @steveadams4009 Před 4 lety

    Wonder how they would work on the hull of a boat?

  • @adamvalenzuela6626
    @adamvalenzuela6626 Před rokem

    I love my east wood SCT works great. I know that its more pricey and heavier but harbor freight sells one exaclly the same for less money.

  • @frankmora8336
    @frankmora8336 Před 6 lety +4

    good review, had a problem with the hands and arms going 100 miles an hour.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety

      Frank Mora thank you. The arms have only accelerated as time goes on sadly. Ha

  • @SteveRivett
    @SteveRivett Před 5 lety +1

    It would be cool if you could get Metabo to send you their burnisher. I'd like to see it against the Eastwood.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      I'd gladly test it but yeah I'd have to be sent it. If anyone has a contact I'd be glad to have it. Haha

    • @SteveRivett
      @SteveRivett Před 5 lety +1

      @@HotRodHippie Perhaps you could make a pitch to Metabo saying you will introduce their product to a passionate audience that is about quality tools and professional results. That would open up a portion of the market that is likely unaware of what is being used on the industrial side of the world vs the high-end home consumer. When I see some of the Eastwood products I can't figure out if they are a gimmick or the real deal.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      The hard part is reaching the right people at brands. Just contacting via the public contact forms 9 times out of 10 doesn't even net a response sadly. One of my greatest frustrations as of late is a lack of communication from companies (never tried Metabo). If I find a decent way to contact someone there I'd gladly pitch the idea. I think there is a real discussion to be had about their product vs the Other options on the market.

  • @jadendallastrucking9907

    I got a Eastwood mine came with 3yr warranty plus u could add the 4th yr for $20

  • @inkedforevr
    @inkedforevr Před 6 lety

    What product/band is the logo from (I know its a Bruins logo)?

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety

      Ryan Dromgoole it is a company called Troy Fab. A shop in RI that makes motorcycle parts.

  • @mgportraits
    @mgportraits Před 3 lety

    I purchase the Eastwood SCT and it came defective. It would shutdown after 3 seconds of triggering the on button. Very disappointed!, Eastwood was nice to offer to exchange it but I can not get over the disappointment.

  • @nicholashopper6724
    @nicholashopper6724 Před 3 lety +1

    The eastwood has a ramp up function so the tool doesn't buck when starting on material

  • @cantyoufeelthelove
    @cantyoufeelthelove Před 6 lety +2

    just wanted to throw out that the eastwood has a trigger lock which solves the issue of switching hands and rest your hand from holding the trigger, but I agree the price for the eastwood is too high

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety +1

      Austin Austin the cost of the tool is fairly understandable for how beefy it is. The cost of the consumables is the really bad part to me. Cost of running the Eastwood long term would add up significantly compared to the cheaper option. I didn't realize I failed to mention the trigger lock. Thanks for pointing it out.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety

      Austin Austin the cost of the tool is fairly understandable for how beefy it is. The cost of the consumables is the really bad part to me. Cost of running the Eastwood long term would add up significantly compared to the cheaper option. I didn't realize I failed to mention the trigger lock. Thanks for pointing it out.

    • @cantyoufeelthelove
      @cantyoufeelthelove Před 6 lety

      Hot rod hippie i agree the price for the stripper drum needs to be 20 bucks like the rest then it would be the same as the carbide stripper 7inch hook and loop disc that i use to strip. Then i might buy it. But i can get the same setup with .5 inches less surface area for 200 bucks with 2 stripper discs

  • @sleeks9939
    @sleeks9939 Před 5 lety +2

    Damn. At 4:32 that eastwood busted that metal. Haha.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety +1

      Sleek S yes, yes it did. The drum grabbed the edge and had fun with it.

  • @jimsimeone960
    @jimsimeone960 Před 6 lety

    Has anyone had a problem with the drum paper walking off on the Porter Cable before,that would be my only concern

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety +1

      That was an early problem with it. The customer service for the tool has made an effort to replace ones where that happened. Newer models haven't had the issue as much or at all. That is a concern with any tools using an expanded drum design but it is s really handy design.
      I never used the sandpaper drums personally. I use the scotch brite and stripping drum exclusively.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      The Oracle good info. The designer of the tool is a good man and he does his best to try and make customers happy with the tool. I talk to him from time to time and it is really admirable how much he tries to make good on even minor issues.

    • @haulinsteelcustoms9304
      @haulinsteelcustoms9304 Před 5 lety

      i havent.

  • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
    @TOMVUTHEPIMP Před 3 lety

    Restorer has been discontinued so theres not much to debate now.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 3 lety

      It is now, or will be soon, available direct from the original designers company. And some are still in the wild.
      And in the end, I don’t delete videos just because products leave the marker. Consider it a time capsule, no reason to erase what was.

    • @mickm5097
      @mickm5097 Před rokem

      I think it's sold as a Craftsman at Lowes these days

  • @timw9919
    @timw9919 Před 5 lety +2

    On the slow spool up time on the trigger you did not bother to mention or use trigger lock which greatly reduces this issue you seemed to really take issue with. I find this hard to understand how you could not have bothered to try the trigger lock as why would you want to hold the trigger for large jobs if you do not have to. You mention costs media but no mention of long each media lasts. That is huge and looking at just cost of each without duty life is meaningless and could be very misleading. I do not know the PC for duty life of their abrassive drum but the SCT I just did a full size Chevy square body long bed single cab and used 3 abrasive drums to strip the entire body and frame down to bare metal. That is $180 and a full weekend to fully strip out a complete exterior and frame of a truck. Also I got to try a PC and you absolutely can bog it down if you are giving heavier pressure when stripping many layers of paint. To do the same with the SCT yuou would really have to stand on it. The PC was also a PITA as you can not get near any edges. Its not some pencil line its a good amount you are stuck having to go back and hit with smaller setup. It adds up to hours depending on the body panel shapes. Where this really noticed was the truck bed with the alt recess. Even if the PC fit it would be leaving a strip on both inside edges where the SCT leaves nothing to clean up in those areas. I really would prefer to have a tool made by PC as IMO they are a more reputable company for long term durability. Also a bit bias in your review coming thru. You actually called the PC and talked to the one of the main designers hmmm. How did you get ahold of him? Just call CS.....I doubt it. I have never called any of those companies and got some senior level employee. You really need to explain this. At the end you are just looking for excuses to support your choice rather than being unbias. Yes you cover it with giving points here and there to the SCT. . So you have one motor that is 40% more powerful but right off you say thjey

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety +1

      How exactly would you have me test the life span of the consumables? I did state that the SCT abrasives are larger and there for MAY last longer than the PC ones as a result. The only way to test that in anything close to a scientific manner would be to create some mechanism to hold both and have it run over the same type of material indefinitely. Which is still a problematic concept. Otherwise the only way I can compare them is with anecdotal evidence (aka my opinion). Which would have to be tested in the exact same conditions over and over to be fair. That's next to impossible really and would require me to have spent weeks testing just abrasive to really confirm.
      The edge issue with the PC can be very annoying but I also fine it saves abrasive. Not getting up to those flanges and edges means I'm not catching them with the abrasive wheel and tearing it up (wasting it). But I can see why someone would be annoyed by that, thus why I said that was a pro of the SCT.
      As for contacting the designer of the Restorer, he is very active on Instagram. Anyone can contact him if they like. His screen name is Inventor_Of_The_Restorer. He is available for contact about warranty issues or questions about the tool. He personally handles issues on a regular basis. Even taking time from his own schedule to drive hours out of his way to deliver repair parts when necessary. He really cares about the reputation of the tool he designed. He is simply a nice guy. And you would actually be surprised what you can do if you ask the right questions. I've had Snap-On connect me directly with lead engineers when I posed questions they simply couldn't answer without that person. Quality companies want to take care of the customer. Robert is not a "senior" employee at PC. He is an independent American inventor who created s prototype of a tool on his own. Then shopped it arund to various tool manufacturers for someone to mass produce it. Porter Cable happened to be the one who bit.
      As for the spool up time issue. That was s trivial complaint I had but an honest one, thus why I mentioned it. You assertion that the issue is fixed by simply locking on the trigger and leaving it running constantly is absurd. "It takes a long time to turn on, so I never turn it off". I work in a very small shop space and constantly have to move, change positions, sit up, sit down, etc. I'm no going to lock the trigger on the tool and leave it running Non stop and handle a tool that is much heavier than the competitions for an extended period of time, while it is constantly running.
      I know plenty of people who have purchased the PC Restorer and been very happy. I've known plenty who have bought the SCT and been happy as well. I know people who have changed from the SCT to the PC. It is all a preference. I am NOT biased to PC. The Restorer is the only PC tool I use. I don't have a high esteem for the PC brand in the least. I simply like the Restorer. So I recommended it based on the information I clearly provided in this video and this comment. I don't take kindly to being called biased. I had never used either of these tools before my testing for this review. I chose based on the reasons I explained and I do not regret it at all.

    • @timw9919
      @timw9919 Před 5 lety +1

      First let me appoligize for the way I came off. I was writing late and did not review my post as it accidentally posted as you can see it cut off;. Upon review I came off as an ASS. Not the way I speak to people. So please accept my app[apology.
      The agree for your testing i would have been hard to do life of wheels comparison but if you had done some reseach you would have found that the SCT reall is a much more heavy duty not consumer duty tool. If it for this reason you have the higher wieght and costs of the drums. The weight savings of the PC does not come from high ttech light weight materials it comes from a smaller motor and windings smaller thinner gears etc. Its not a knock on PC as they will tell you it is a consumer grade tool period. This tool is a clone of the German made Metabo unit. It uses the german and US made drums which are the same and fit without issue on the SCT. They all cost that $50+ range for good reason. They last many many times longer than those PC ones. They also hold up much better. Please go research to confirm for yourself.
      Some thing also is Portacable use to be a American made company. Same as did Black Decker. They are now both owns by Stanley and ALL those tools are made in china. SO that is a wash. Not saying you said otherwise but people can be misled as PC is tech American owner but has nothing to do with orgin of parts and assembly. In fact to show how this unit is not one of the more professional PC units the exact same unit is made with the Black Decker label.
      The reason the SCT has so many accessories is because its uses the same standard industrial drums. There are likely hundred or more choices that fit that mount. The PC was never meant for that and thus you will NEVER have the level or quality and durability and life these will have. Its not its target.
      But to addrress those that want cheaper drums. Becuase it uses the same accessories there of course are chinese manf drum for this price point. You can get most all the drums for 1/2 the cost by choosing this over the German made drums. OF course you will never hear this from Eastwood as they want you buying from them. To support this so its not just words here is a link with pic and link support from another forum: www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354258
      Next is warranty. The both have the same 3 yr warranty. Here is the link to Eastwood site SCT page: www.eastwood.com/eastwood-contour-sct.html?SRCCODE=PLA00020&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_p--57WH3gIVEYWRCh2r1w0hEAQYAiABEgJJkPD_BwE
      You also mention that you feel the PC has a stronger mounting system becuase it has the hinge supported door with a bearing in it. While at first glance that may seem the case its not. The shaft and its support on the frame and gear mount is much more robust on the SCT and frankly you will see this same design and metal thicknesses on the German and USA models costing from $600-$1K+. Please take a look for support if you need it. The PC needs it becuase of the weaker mount system and its still not the equal. That bearing and weak sheet metal hinge will offer little if you were to put real pressure on it. Again its not bad its just what you get from a machine thats less than 1/2 the cost. Think about it for a sec. They are both mass produced in China from the same type of manf facilities. If one is double the cost there is a reason and its not Eastwood markup. There is a very similar ( read all same parts with very small design dif) machine on the marker and it too is $199-$220. No eastwood name for mark up. If anything eastwood gives you a USA company for support which is a big bonus and 3 yr warranty. Compared to the other version offered by Hardin. But they are very if not the almost the same machine certainly same manf line. But with Eastwood you get CS and 3 yr warranty.
      I have the same issue as you when I am debating +/- I tend to downplay, minimize or make excusing for my preference and magnify hte issues of the one I do not. Listen to your video you do the same thing. Just about every weakness of the PC you state its minor not a big deal etc and many of the SCT pluses you downplay or chose to not compare.
      So lets recap the info in a condensed format:
      * PC made in China-----------SCT made in China = Equal
      * PC 3 yr warranty--------------SCT 3 yr warranty = Equal
      * PC Consumer grade--------SCT HD grade (will not call it industrial as we are speaking of the tool only) = SCT Win
      * PC accessories low cost consumer grade----------SCT industrial grade lasts many many times longer and more durable = for value will say a tie as one is much cheaper but the other is much stronger and the value is there for the increase.
      * PC is wider and will leave more follow up work that can add up to hours on a entire vehicle. Way easier to see and prevent damage with the SCT. SCT clear win
      * PC changing drums way faster as its toolest. The SCT a tool is needed. The SCT actually is the stronger mount = PC wins hands down.
      * PC can only use its own accessories limited to handful------------------SCT can use all metabo and other drums. 1/2 cost china versions available literally hundreds of choices and options, They last much longer equal to the higher cost. Do you know how many sanding sleeves it takes to do a entire car? Make sure to order by the crat e. SCT one drum would do an entire small car = SCT wins unless you are going to do only a few small jobs that takes many different accessories which the cheaper PC would offer the best choice for cost. But for vehicles SCT
      * PC substantially lighter weight because of smaller motor and thinner frame and gears. But still lighter to hold over long periods for someone with lower strength or possible handicap or other reason .... ------------------------SCT heavier because of HD construction making it stronger and more powerful. thicker metal larger more powerful HD motor. = If wieght is the major above the others PC wins if not SCT wins. Call it user preference to be fair.
      * PC less costly see above reasons-----------SCT still way less than comparable options such as Metabo and other German and USA manf commercial units. Different target audiences with some overlap. You get what you paid for between PC and SCT. = User preference again but the SCT is the better unit in terms of power build and accessories choices
      I think in terms of the units being demo'd and there features you did a GREAT job. You also were in the end honest in why you choose PC price and weight. I just do not think the facts support your conclusions as to the strengths and weakness in comparison of the units. Its the old adage " He who frames the debate always wins" You had a bias and that influence effected your evaluation. Still you do a damn good job compared to much of the stuff out here. You are well spoken and courteous and those things in themselves has my support and veiwership. The fact you promptly replied in a respectful manner to my no so respectful comments speaks volumes.
      I do not think you could strip a car with aircraft stripper (chemical) anywhere as fast as you could with the SCT. Not even close. I have done both a few times ( not even remotely close to be a expert or even high end hobbyist but been there done that) and it was easily 3x as long with the stripper when you take into account prep and all the clean up etc. Even more so if there are multiple layers of paint coats from repeated paintings. Now maybe with the strippers that we had in the early 80s it might be closer. Even the industrial not found even in commercial paint stores still is not what the products where before all the greenies effected the epa regs. Not to mention the 10x increase in costs from having to use more expensive weaker chems. Use to one gal stripper would do 2 cars and was $15-$20 now its 2x the amount and 4x the cost per gal. Then all the health hazards and proper disposal of it all. For me there is NO WAY I would choose chem stripper over the SCT or even a powerful orbital air tool with stripper disk. There is a reason most shops that do not use blasting all use sanding. For small hard to hold parts or weird nooks and shapes stripper, dip, or blast all the way. Blast wins for speed hands down but not for mess or cost or risk level of damage. It also unless its soda will flash rust almost right before your eyes unless you are in the southwest.
      Keep up the reviews and info I think what your doing is helpful and informative regardless of disagreements etc..
      Cheers.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      I appreciate the apology, haven't had a moment to go over your information. I will when I get a some time. 👍 Thank you.

    • @59LPGibson
      @59LPGibson Před 5 lety +1

      @@HotRodHippie, I see replies where people clearly were not listening- maybe drinking too many beers when they watched. As for audio and tattoos, what does that have to do with tools? I heard you just fine on the video (BTW- 30 years in audio biz, recorded bands that have sold 25 million records) I have met numerous people who are sleeved, necked, face tats who have bank accounts larger than anyone making comments here! very good review, would love to see more. No bad comedy and right down to business! I have read and seen video on the inventor of the PC tool. His first one was huge in size. he did a great job making it compact! He is also very accessible. I also have an extensive background with tools and anyone who would lock a tool on that can filet you in seconds is foolish. I believe you were changing hands partially due to the weight of the Eastwood tool anyway. It is much more powerful and looks industrial, that said the average diy person isn't stripping the titanic! Stripping frames of a bus everyday? Get the Eastwood. (hopefully you can bench press 450 pounds). Keep up the good work! If you want to be politically correct, where long sleeves and an Armani suit while you are grinding rusty metal!!!

    • @mopardamo
      @mopardamo Před 4 lety +1

      I feel your criticisms are fair and have merit. The soft start feature has real value that is missing from the PC. You can hold the tool against the material upon startup with the SCT. Why can't he just lock the motor on when changing hands? He's a small armed person. What about people with even less arm strength? You never said it always has to be locked. Then he claims your locking idea was "absurd"? His review is biased to the extent that he contacted the manufacturer of just one of the products. His response confirms the bias by having a long paragraph dedicated to the history of the designer. Shows definite bias then claims his feelings are hurt. LOL Its the internet and he needs to man up! The SCT is designed for taking off heavy scale, paint, etc in the process of restoring a car. The review was not a fair test for the SCT product design. The SCT removes layers of paint 3x faster and removes much heavier rust that the PC is not capable of. Time is money and he works professionally with these tools...humm. Access around the guide, getting to and observing irregular work areas is far superior for the SCT. For its intended use the SCT is a clear winner. I find it in poor taste that a product review misguides the viewers as to the actual intended use for a product.

  • @steveriddell1937
    @steveriddell1937 Před 5 lety +1

    Eastwood products are a rip off in Australia nsw . I've wont buy anymore

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      Unfortunately the conversion rate on money between the US and Australia, along with Australian import taxes seems to be killing trade between our countries. I know Hoosier Profiles, a well known maker of English Wheel anvils is closing up shop and they partly attributed the lack of Business from Australia to that.

  • @toolsdealsautomobiles6980

    Not even close to the same tool. Ones pro (Eastwood) ones DIY (porter cable)

  • @thatfeeble-mindedboy
    @thatfeeble-mindedboy Před 3 lety

    Dump the music. All content is either signal or noise. Signal is whatever it is you intend to communicate by being seen or heard. Noise is anything present that can be seen or heard, by accident or intent, that is NOT signal. These are the technical definitions of signal and noise. Any and all communications systems have as a top consideration - the signal-to-noise ratio. The universal goal is to reach a ratio of 100/0. The music is not signal... nobody clicked the thumbnail because they wanted to hear some music. They wanted to hear the comparison, and has to hear and understand you speaking over any background noise. That could be the hvac system, equipment running, excessive reverberation or echo in the room, other people talking - things like that. From a listeners perspective, you might as well go over and turn on your loud air-handler, or open the door so the traffic noise gets in etc., because it just adds to the “noise floor” that they must “hear you over”, and that requires effort. Why would you actively introduce something that degrades your S/N ratio and requires more effort from your audience to achieve your goal of transferring this information? You’re expending time, effort, attention and resources to reduce your effectiveness. Stop doing that; I want you to succeed. This is all stuff I’ve learned from a 40+ year career as a sound engineer. If I don’t share it when it appears someone might benefit from it, then what’s the point? It dies when I die.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 3 lety

      Kenneth Vaughan you clicked on an over 3 year old video (THE oldest HRH video) and critiqued that one. Did you happen to watch any of my newer ones to see if maybe I’d grown in 3 years without having your expert input? My most recent upload is music free.
      The background music is a balancing act but does serve a purpose. It smooths plosives, jump cuts, rustling noise, etc. Any little annoying sounds that may occur get lost in the background or become far less noticeable with a constant smooth playing sound behind it. I hadn’t learned the balance of that audio by this point. Watch a movie, tv show, or documentary, music in the background is ever present. This isn’t Talk Radio.

  • @jekinneys
    @jekinneys Před 5 lety

    Good video, thank you. That tattoo running up your neck looks like a **** though. Distracting as I was curious what is really is.

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety +3

      Gee thanks for the compliment.

    • @GridIndustries
      @GridIndustries Před 5 lety +1

      @@HotRodHippie That dude is a douche. I appreciate you taking the time to make the video. I've been trying to decide as well! Being able to get consumables locally is a big deal to me, because you never know when you could be in a pinch or go through them faster than you thought.

  • @hoytwood4937
    @hoytwood4937 Před 6 lety

    EASTWOOD SUCKS! OVER PRICED HIGH SHIPPING! POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 6 lety

      James Hoyt a lot of the stuff they sell can easily be purchased elsewhere for less money. No doubt about that. Luckily I've never had much need to work with their customer service but I've heard mixed things.

  • @cpkunlimited8558
    @cpkunlimited8558 Před 5 lety

    Audio sucks

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie  Před 5 lety

      Watch some of my newer videos. This was a year and a half ago and is nothing like my videos today.