Nothing compares to the sound of a 2-cycle EMD V-16. This one is wrapping up much higher than the one I ran. It was the driver for a 30 MGD water pump. We ran it at 900 rpm and the sound was so soothing.
This one’s running at about 900 RPM. The buzzing from the two blowers is a deal breaker for me to stand very close while it’s at 900 RPM. I’d much rather stand next to a loaded 645 turbo engine than this one, there’s no teeth grinding buzz with those.
I have 11 engines in the plant I run. We have a few coopers and Fairbanks. But the Crown Jewels are my McIntosh Seymour’s from 1936. They sound like sewing machines.
@@spasticnapjerk When we do our next run I will make sure and capture a video of our McIntosh Seymour’s from 1936. We also have a Fulton Iron works, 2 Fairbanks DLA and 4 Cooper Bessemer LSV.
No ear protection. I had 4 of these on several boats I worked on. Check the oil level, Pre lube for 10 minutes while you walk around, , open air. Roll over with test cocks open checking for water mist then close them. Now with fuel open hit the air start while holding the rack lever to keep it from jumping in RPM until oil pressure looked good. Listen for stuff, does the rack handle feel normal, will the governor take over for idle, if it won't sure sign something is wrong with the turbo drive as there is not enough air. Lots to take in before you move on. Then secure air. Walk around again, let it warm up until oil is 120*F. Bring it up to 900 rpm and put it on line as needed. Locomotives are so different, someone just starts them from the cab, a tough life but these engines are made for it.To relax I'd go out into the engineroom and soogie the generators (no drips allowed) and in general clean up things. The oilers hated that, made them super nervous. Underway at about 80% load the turbo charger would start to come off the gear train that drove it at low power output. Then things would start to sing. Standing between two of them 110 decibels of power. The V16's were between 2800 hp and maybe a little over 3000 depending on the models. I always worked on DC systems so generator maintenance was constant along with normal engine maintenance. Worst was cleaning out the air boxes, long strip of small doors on the upper side. Lower round doors are access to the crank case.
@@RustyorBroken The auxilary generator is the exciter gen for the main gen field supply. Mongrel things they were as well! Bearing and coupling problems. There was a later static exciter available that replaced them entirely.
Did locomotive service for over 10 years and those engineers would push the lay shaft over to hold it in full fuel when it started and they did this every day. Yet those old 16V645's would hold up well even with this abuse.
Very similar to the engins of the ocean going tug I was on. It had 12 567 A engines 4 of them. They sounded a bit diffrent but in the engine room they could lull you to sleep. At sea all the problems of the world for 2 weeks at a time would vanish. I long for the days of past. The ocean when calm is a very quiet place. But when the wind howls and the waves crash it is very exciting. We were in many a storm. The best one was when the waves reached around 50 feet and we were taking 34 degree rolls. We had a nick name for the ship "The Cork".
I served on a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. We had similar GM diesels for our emergency generators. Those things are small compared to our ship's service steam turbine generator, but those were 4KV and carried a much bigger load. Most people don't know what we know about the beauty of that deep blue water. You really can't call yourself a blue water sailor if you've never had over a mile of water under your keel or watched a 50 foot wave coming in for the bow. However, one of the scariest things I saw wasn't the storms I saw while at sea on the carrier, it was while I spent a night on lay over at Diego Garcia. 1000 miles for any body of land and it started raining so hard I thought the island would go under. There was 4 inches of water over the asphalt street. It rains HARD in the Indian Ocean!
@@ToyotaNutjob "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe." I've been told I should write a book about my experiences. However, mine are mostly nothing new. I've seen blue water break over the bow of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier and white water break over the Primary Flight Control (aka Pri-Fly). Think of it like the air traffic control tower. I've seen over 100,000 tons of the world's most advanced warship steaming so fast that you could water ski behind her. While on the builder's sea trials, we were moving faster than that, the fastest the ship would ever go short of defensive maneuvering during an actual war. Still we had to dump extra steam into the main condensers in order to get steam flow above 100% rated flow to test the output of the steam generators. The ship can't go fast enough to use all that steam. I watched the electricians cross their fingers and close the breakers connecting a steam turbine generator to a salt water resistor adjusted to almost 10 megawatts of power and for almost half a second the generator only dropped half a Hertz before returning to normal. Those engineering plants are literally bullet proof. I know, I watched a welder cut a hole through the armored deck protecting the reactor and it was thicker than my fist. I pilfered a scrap of that armor and took it home with me the next time I went home to the rural foothills where my parents live. I clamped that scrap in vice-grip pliers and clamp that to a fence post with a C-clamp. I shot it with the most powerful ammo I could buy for my grandfather's .30-06 deer rifle. The bullet just vaporized on that armor. I took that back and showed my ship mates, we all felt a lot safer inside our armored box after looking at the lead and brass mixture plated onto that steel. While we were anchored at Ra's Al-Hadd off the Gulf of Oman entering the Arabian Sea, every evening we would be visited by a whale shark that was a tad longer than our 50'utility boats. It came to eat the plankton and krill that ate the pulverized galley scrapes we washed overboard every evening when the sun went down and the tides pulled the sea away from the ship and shore. I climbed down a rope ladder to those utility boats pulled away from the boat boom by the tides, the angle was nearly 45 degrees from vertical. Half way to the boat the whale shark passed under the ladder between the ship and the boat. Now I knew perfectly well that whale sharks only eat krill and plankton and are extremely docile, I wouldn't hurt one for the world. Still yet, it's a test of one's knowledge over one's emotions when an animal that big comes swimming by and you're already doing everything in your ability not to fall into the sea.
Watch these guys start this beast here: czcams.com/video/u5p7GIJ9fz0/video.html. It's hard to believe they were building a diesel that big over 80 years ago.
Yup. We had them for backup generators. We were a bit rougher on them, from start signal to loaded at full speed, about 9 seconds. But they were such rugged monsters!
@@mikefochtman7164 As backup generators, were they kept at operating temperature with heated water so they could run up to 900 RPM at startup? Most of the EMD engines I deal with won’t run up like that immediately if they’re cold. They smoke, surge, and hunt until they reach about 160 - 170 degrees F. Then they’ll run up like the champs they are.
Although the size of this generator is small, but this old engine should be strengthened for this generator and its power should be increased by changing the supercharger.
A general rule is that the higher the output voltage, the generator can be a smaller physical size as the amperage is lower. Amperage defines the wire size.
With the roots blowers on that, it’s a 2,000hp engine.. if wanting to make more power on that 16v645, it would be going to the turbo 3,000hp version cylinders sets (E3, E3B) along with matching injectors & turbocharger. It would need a different mounting system for the auxiliary alternator as it won’t be in the center anymore. Going with F3B parts you could get 3,600hp but the F3B’s didn’t have the greatest reliability.
Nice to work on, I have experience with the turbocharged marine varients, there is a reason you blown these engines down prior to starting, had coolant squirting out from a cracked liner once. The other engines that I worked on that have power packs like the EMD, are MTU 8000 series engines which are 4 stroke vice the EMD 2 stroke, beautiful engines for sure.
I operated and maintained this type emd diesel electric power plants for 50 years. Also Fairbanks and Morse and Detroit engines. Some on locomotives and many on ships.
I service these diesels, GM ams FAirbanks/ Morse mostly. I can’t believe those guys don’t have earmuffs on. We normally wear plugs and muffs, it’s that loud.
Reminds me of my days of operating locomotives 16,600 cubic inches of turbocharged fury coupled to a 600 volt DC generator pushing out 3,500 horsepower.
@@timwalker3157I have a first cousin who repaired them for 43 years. He just retired. Went on road calls too. Based at Shafer's Crossing in Roanoke, VA. ( Norfolk Southern)
Retired locomotive engineer here: We loved them! Absolute reliable workhorses. Held up far better than those 4 cycle GE FDL diesel engines. Apparently only roots blowers are needed for power plant use in this video compared to turbo charged in railroad mainline freight service for these high horsepower 645E3's.
Electro-Motive Division of General Motors made locomotives with these type of engines near Chicago, IL, USA for years. EMD has since been sold to another company. EDM competed with General Electric in the diesel/electric locomotive business in the USA. Fairbanks-Morse also built diesel/electric engines and locomotives. Their 2 stroke engines were also used in USA submarines during WW II
We had a bank of 4 similar engines to these - they all may have been GM, but the one I saw was. Just two of these guys provided power generation to the entirety of San Clemente Island - the airfield, RADAR and comms - lots of secret stuff they could have told me about but then they'd have to kill me. I was just a RADAR guy, but I had a friend who actually ran those plants he and gave me the nickel tour. Very impressive machines!! :)
I wonder why it is listed as being in Los Angeles County. San Clemente the city is in the OC, and a map shows the island across from OC. Makes me sad.😪
I laughed at that myself. So much fervour for such a small button, the way he did it he might as well have pushing a massive metal rod that was moving heavy levers and stuff, not just a little button, haha.
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Retired locomotive engineer here: We loved them! Absolute reliable workhorses. Held up far better than those 4 cycle GE FDL diesel engines. Apparently only roots blowers are needed for power plant use in this video compared to turbo charged in railroad mainline freight service for these high horsepower 645E3's.
it sounds just like the train engines CIE had on the irish rail system years ago , they were often left idling over night as they were hard to start from cold when out on the rail lines in the yards at the main railway stations like dublin cork and limerick , i loved the sound of them are they two stroke or four stroke please and what kind of power output had they , good video by the way thank you
This sounds like a non-turbo EMD, maybe a 567 or 645. EMD 567, 645, and 710 engines are 2 stroke where their new 1010 is 4. The 645 is rated at between 750 and 4200 hp, I'd say this one is around 3000 but I'm no expert.
@@amessman your doing fine i must look it up Adam many thanks and happy new year ,she looks all muffled up for quietness as its down in the ship its a fine old engine and im sure there are alot of proud people looking after the engines , look at the shine on the GM plate as an example of the care taken ,, many thanks again Adam
@@williamkelley7654 Hello there William its a big engine , there used to be a Commer engine with a Roots blower on it ,i remember it well on that engine back 55 years ago as im sure the 5 cylinder Foden lorry engine also , many thanks for your message
This engine in its current configuration is only good for up to 2000 horsepower, or what ever that would be in kilowatts. Exact output would depend on whether it's a 567C, 567D1, or 645E.
When it's going to make that much noise... You Have to push the button with your Whole body! (I was pretty sure it was air start but still scared me, lol)
Largest genset I ever saw in Person was a MTU Turbodiesel coupled to a 1000KVA generator head. From start to full power was only 10 seconds or so since she fired immediately as you would expect from a preheated standyby generator for a hospital rolled coal like a mf until she was up to 1500rpm rated speed. Turbos sounded like heaven on that thing though. The german Leopard 2 uses a similar engine from MTU. Honestly I like these "smaller" gensets more since you really feel the power thats in these engines unlike these humongous roots blown sets turning at super low rpm.
Hi.thanks for you The advantage of old GM diesels compared to other brands is the ability to be upgraded from a blower to a turbocharger and an intercooler.
an EMD, world class. a few blow up, mistreated. emegency power-EMD. compresed air starter. lube oil has to be warm. emegency back up power is there, now the v20 710 is a must have.
@@precision430 Well, yes and no. GM's Detroit Diesel Division built the engine (in a locomotive it is called a "prime mover"). GM's Electromotive Division (EMD) built the actual locomotive itself (frame, body, wiring, electrical and electronics). Several years ago, GM sold off EMD. It is now a private company, but it still uses GM prime movers. The 16V645 prime mover was used mostly in the "General Purpose (GP)"-series locomotives - GP-9, GP-15(?), GP-20, GP-30 & GP-35 {a limited number of each were made}, GP-38, & GP-40. I don't know if they were used in the SD line. GM did experiment with a 20V645 in the SDP-45 passenger diesel. It was not a good design, as there were a lot of issues with broken crankshafts (a common theory was the length of the crankshaft, which couldn't deal with shear forces).
@@erzahler1930 I went to school at EMD in LaGrange Illinois, EMD built most parts of those engines right in that plant other than the crankshaft, a 2 stroke engine yes, but Detroit Diesel, no. I watched H beams and channels being welded together and machined creating the block, I was shocked the first time I seen that, another bit I never forgot was watching red hot valve forgings slide down a chute into a large crate and many more very cool and interesting things. All gone now purchased by CAT and a piss poor move on GM's part in my opinion. Detroit Diesels have been a part of my life from the beginning as well, my dad is a 50 year Detroit Diesel and Allison master.
@@sandasturner9529 on newer setups like this, it's an automatic process. On something older, like a GP9 locomotive, you'd open all the cylinder vents and crank it a bit (vents it, and prelubricates things), then you close the vents, prime it, and start it. Unless it's really really cold it will fire up almost immediately.
@@litz13 I know this is a bit of a stretch, but it's a lot like the old warbirds on which I used to work. Before starting a radial engine, you have to "run through" the propeller to ensure none of the lower cylinders are hydro-locked. Once done and no hydro-lock is present, then the ignition can be switched on and the engine started. A common joke among A&P technicians is that when the starter is engaged, the cylinders meet in committee to decide which one will fire first!
This obviously isn’t happening in America, cause OSHA would have you wearing muffs, gloves, fireproof suits, helmets, nail polish, condums, you name it!
Nothing compares to the sound of a 2-cycle EMD V-16. This one is wrapping up much higher than the one I ran. It was the driver for a 30 MGD water pump. We ran it at 900 rpm and the sound was so soothing.
Yep, 900 is just about right, ran 16’s and 20’s for many, many years.
This would be running at 900 rpm to generate 60 HZ power. That's what it sounds like.
@@mumfordthepitbull4581 No 1800 rpm for 60hz USA Overseas @ 50 hZ Lower Rpm See & Here That Too
8v71 sounds pretty nice with a good driver.
This one’s running at about 900 RPM. The buzzing from the two blowers is a deal breaker for me to stand very close while it’s at 900 RPM. I’d much rather stand next to a loaded 645 turbo engine than this one, there’s no teeth grinding buzz with those.
EMD. Converting diesel fuel to noise since 1938.
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utter nonsense.
@@3RTracing How about the 20,000 ton trains I’ve moved with them, eh? It’s got to be a good design if EMD has kept updating it for eighty years.
... and still running 😜
Noise and some awesome brute power! These units were dual purpose, could be used as stationary power (as used here), or railroad locomotives.
I have 11 engines in the plant I run. We have a few coopers and Fairbanks. But the Crown Jewels are my McIntosh Seymour’s from 1936. They sound like sewing machines.
Where?,How old?,power output?,how many homes?.
Sounds like we need a video!
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@@spasticnapjerk When we do our next run I will make sure and capture a video of our McIntosh Seymour’s from 1936. We also have a Fulton Iron works, 2 Fairbanks DLA and 4 Cooper Bessemer LSV.
No ear protection. I had 4 of these on several boats I worked on. Check the oil level, Pre lube for 10 minutes while you walk around, , open air. Roll over with test cocks open checking for water mist then close them. Now with fuel open hit the air start while holding the rack lever to keep it from jumping in RPM until oil pressure looked good. Listen for stuff, does the rack handle feel normal, will the governor take over for idle, if it won't sure sign something is wrong with the turbo drive as there is not enough air. Lots to take in before you move on. Then secure air. Walk around again, let it warm up until oil is 120*F. Bring it up to 900 rpm and put it on line as needed. Locomotives are so different, someone just starts them from the cab, a tough life but these engines are made for it.To relax I'd go out into the engineroom and soogie the generators (no drips allowed) and in general clean up things. The oilers hated that, made them super nervous. Underway at about 80% load the turbo charger would start to come off the gear train that drove it at low power output. Then things would start to sing. Standing between two of them 110 decibels of power. The V16's were between 2800 hp and maybe a little over 3000 depending on the models. I always worked on DC systems so generator maintenance was constant along with normal engine maintenance. Worst was cleaning out the air boxes, long strip of small doors on the upper side. Lower round doors are access to the crank case.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. What is the smaller motor/generator/alternator at the end of the video?
@@RustyorBroken The auxilary generator is the exciter gen for the main gen field supply. Mongrel things they were as well!
Bearing and coupling problems. There was a later static exciter available that replaced them entirely.
@@kevinhorsfield7048 that explains it. Thanks for the reply.
Did locomotive service for over 10 years and those engineers would push the lay shaft over to hold it in full fuel when it started and they did this every day. Yet those old 16V645's would hold up well even with this abuse.
Very similar to the engins of the ocean going tug I was on. It had 12 567 A engines 4 of them. They sounded a bit diffrent but in the engine room they could lull you to sleep. At sea all the problems of the world for 2 weeks at a time would vanish. I long for the days of past. The ocean when calm is a very quiet place. But when the wind howls and the waves crash it is very exciting. We were in many a storm. The best one was when the waves reached around 50 feet and we were taking 34 degree rolls. We had a nick name for the ship "The Cork".
I served on a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. We had similar GM diesels for our emergency generators. Those things are small compared to our ship's service steam turbine generator, but those were 4KV and carried a much bigger load. Most people don't know what we know about the beauty of that deep blue water. You really can't call yourself a blue water sailor if you've never had over a mile of water under your keel or watched a 50 foot wave coming in for the bow. However, one of the scariest things I saw wasn't the storms I saw while at sea on the carrier, it was while I spent a night on lay over at Diego Garcia. 1000 miles for any body of land and it started raining so hard I thought the island would go under. There was 4 inches of water over the asphalt street. It rains HARD in the Indian Ocean!
bravo
@@trplankowner3323 balls of steel. I'm from mainland usa and I would never go beyond a half a mile from sea shore
@@ToyotaNutjob "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe." I've been told I should write a book about my experiences. However, mine are mostly nothing new. I've seen blue water break over the bow of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier and white water break over the Primary Flight Control (aka Pri-Fly). Think of it like the air traffic control tower. I've seen over 100,000 tons of the world's most advanced warship steaming so fast that you could water ski behind her. While on the builder's sea trials, we were moving faster than that, the fastest the ship would ever go short of defensive maneuvering during an actual war. Still we had to dump extra steam into the main condensers in order to get steam flow above 100% rated flow to test the output of the steam generators. The ship can't go fast enough to use all that steam. I watched the electricians cross their fingers and close the breakers connecting a steam turbine generator to a salt water resistor adjusted to almost 10 megawatts of power and for almost half a second the generator only dropped half a Hertz before returning to normal. Those engineering plants are literally bullet proof. I know, I watched a welder cut a hole through the armored deck protecting the reactor and it was thicker than my fist. I pilfered a scrap of that armor and took it home with me the next time I went home to the rural foothills where my parents live. I clamped that scrap in vice-grip pliers and clamp that to a fence post with a C-clamp. I shot it with the most powerful ammo I could buy for my grandfather's .30-06 deer rifle. The bullet just vaporized on that armor. I took that back and showed my ship mates, we all felt a lot safer inside our armored box after looking at the lead and brass mixture plated onto that steel. While we were anchored at Ra's Al-Hadd off the Gulf of Oman entering the Arabian Sea, every evening we would be visited by a whale shark that was a tad longer than our 50'utility boats. It came to eat the plankton and krill that ate the pulverized galley scrapes we washed overboard every evening when the sun went down and the tides pulled the sea away from the ship and shore. I climbed down a rope ladder to those utility boats pulled away from the boat boom by the tides, the angle was nearly 45 degrees from vertical. Half way to the boat the whale shark passed under the ladder between the ship and the boat. Now I knew perfectly well that whale sharks only eat krill and plankton and are extremely docile, I wouldn't hurt one for the world. Still yet, it's a test of one's knowledge over one's emotions when an animal that big comes swimming by and you're already doing everything in your ability not to fall into the sea.
❤😅
It's truly amazing how utterly reliable big EMD diesels are..."bulletproof" doesn't do them justice!
Watch these guys start this beast here: czcams.com/video/u5p7GIJ9fz0/video.html. It's hard to believe they were building a diesel that big over 80 years ago.
They have always gotten me home! Have you seen the documentary about the navy vets who sailed a retired LST from Greece? They’re EMD powered.
@@trplankowner3323 no it isnt
Yup. We had them for backup generators. We were a bit rougher on them, from start signal to loaded at full speed, about 9 seconds. But they were such rugged monsters!
@@mikefochtman7164
As backup generators, were they kept at operating temperature with heated water so they could run up to 900 RPM at startup? Most of the EMD engines I deal with won’t run up like that immediately if they’re cold. They smoke, surge, and hunt until they reach about 160 - 170 degrees F. Then they’ll run up like the champs they are.
Lovely engine !. Regards from the UK.
Sim, um motorzão!
One thing for sure, with over 1/2 million views lots of us like hearing them start!
1:57 Amazing how powerful electro-magnetism is....that relatively small generator is able to absorb all the power of that huge engine!
Although the size of this generator is small, but this old engine should be strengthened for this generator and its power should be increased by changing the supercharger.
A general rule is that the higher the output voltage, the generator can be a smaller physical size as the amperage is lower. Amperage defines the wire size.
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With the roots blowers on that, it’s a 2,000hp engine.. if wanting to make more power on that 16v645, it would be going to the turbo 3,000hp version cylinders sets (E3, E3B) along with matching injectors & turbocharger. It would need a different mounting system for the auxiliary alternator as it won’t be in the center anymore. Going with F3B parts you could get 3,600hp but the F3B’s didn’t have the greatest reliability.
Say what you will about EMD engines, in the locomotive world their reliability is legendary.
We had two of those under my berthing on my first ship. That sound brings me back.
Non turbo, pure roots blower sound. 👍
*>full noise howl!
I think that was the generator.
Supercharger. Only way to go. And yes that is the engine noise not the gen/set. 2 stroke diesel power
@@scott250r2 never mind I see it now in front I think. Smaller than I expected.
@@devoncantrell3311 They are not real big. Like the Detroit Diesel 8V92 the supercharger is a perfect size for a big block Chevy.
I used to love sleeping on an angle iron that the engine was attached to while working in edg on my first ship in the Navy.
you know what angle iron is.....
Nice to work on, I have experience with the turbocharged marine varients, there is a reason you blown these engines down prior to starting, had coolant squirting out from a cracked liner once. The other engines that I worked on that have power packs like the EMD, are MTU 8000 series engines which are 4 stroke vice the EMD 2 stroke, beautiful engines for sure.
Love that sound of those EMD 2 cycle V16 diesel engines.
I operated and maintained this type emd diesel electric power plants for 50 years. Also Fairbanks and Morse and Detroit engines.
Some on locomotives and many on ships.
I service these diesels, GM ams FAirbanks/ Morse mostly. I can’t believe those guys don’t have earmuffs on.
We normally wear plugs and muffs, it’s that loud.
Tough guys love tinnitus
Fairbanks, man I miss those days! Yeah, dbl hearing protection for sure... Suffering from when I was a tough Engineman w/o it.
Perfect... Nobody started big engine without 10-45 sec in idle before full run☺☺☺🐼🐾🐾🐾
Hello dear friend. Please explain more about this
Back when the name GENERAL MOTORS actually meant awesome engineering and top-notch quality.
Worker: Why do we have a big diesel engine in the basement?
Company CEO: We are moving the company to Texas, hold on...
Along with everyone else that are California refugees.
Burn! 😃
Music to my ears! I'm getting excited!
Reminds me of my days of operating locomotives 16,600 cubic inches of turbocharged fury coupled to a 600 volt DC generator pushing out 3,500 horsepower.
Me too!! 45 years worth. I miss them immensely. You only give such a beautiful thing up like that once in a lifetime.
@@timwalker3157I have a first cousin who repaired them for 43 years. He just retired. Went on road calls too. Based at Shafer's Crossing in Roanoke, VA. ( Norfolk Southern)
Retired locomotive engineer here: We loved them! Absolute reliable workhorses. Held up far better than those 4 cycle GE FDL diesel engines. Apparently only roots blowers are needed for power plant use in this video compared to turbo charged in railroad mainline freight service for these high horsepower 645E3's.
Electro-Motive Division of General Motors made locomotives with these type of engines near Chicago, IL, USA for years. EMD has since been sold to another company. EDM competed with General Electric in the diesel/electric locomotive business in the USA. Fairbanks-Morse also built diesel/electric engines and locomotives. Their 2 stroke engines were also used in USA submarines during WW II
I was wondering if gm still did this or not.
I love the history of there diesel divisions. I can't rember the original name before they were detriots
@@rodfrost5051 Cleveland Diesel.
I saw the USS Blueback (SS-581) in Portland OR last year. It has Fairbanks-Morse engines.
@@rodfrost5051 Caterpillar now own EMD. I work for Caterpillar in the UK.
We had a bank of 4 similar engines to these - they all may have been GM, but the one I saw was. Just two of these guys provided power generation to the entirety of San Clemente Island - the airfield, RADAR and comms - lots of secret stuff they could have told me about but then they'd have to kill me. I was just a RADAR guy, but I had a friend who actually ran those plants he and gave me the nickel tour. Very impressive machines!! :)
I wonder why it is listed as being in Los Angeles County. San Clemente the city is in the OC, and a map shows the island across from OC. Makes me sad.😪
That is a MONSTER OF A GENERATOR for a ship
UG8 WOODWARD HYDRAULICAL SPEED GOVERNOR. I LOVE IT ❤
It even has the duramax tick, impresive
Somebody already got it. Woodward UG8! Love it!
Very impressive ! 👍
Sim.
Dammit Scotty! Where's that power you promised me! I'm given' you all she's got captain! She can't take much more!
What a monster 🤘
I love the part that one guy is telling the other guy to check his crap In his pants before pulling up. Other than that, the engine sounds awesome.
The key is sufficient commitment to push the push the button hard enough
I laughed at that myself. So much fervour for such a small button, the way he did it he might as well have pushing a massive metal rod that was moving heavy levers and stuff, not just a little button, haha.
Cool to see a GM generator in Iran.
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Great sound.
Would be nice to know KW rating and voltage. What year it was built and manufactured how many units were built.
What a Monster!
0:52 It’s a good thing he put his whole scrawny weight into pressing that button or else that engine never would have started. 😂
Thats a seriously large roots blower!
Good job 👍
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click, click, click -- push the door safeties in. Excellent
Let's starting. NASA T-shirt.
That’s the future of power generation. One large diesel generator for every hundred wind turbines, for those windless days. 😂
Global Warming nuts don't see it that way. And the politicians who listen to them.
Load tested many EMD 645E3& 710G3 on the Southern Pacific Railroad.
Retired locomotive engineer here: We loved them! Absolute reliable workhorses. Held up far better than those 4 cycle GE FDL diesel engines. Apparently only roots blowers are needed for power plant use in this video compared to turbo charged in railroad mainline freight service for these high horsepower 645E3's.
Music to the ears
I’ve been working on Waukesha 7044 VHP
Natural Gas engines for over 30 years. Very lucrative occupation
wow, what a beast.
This will charge about 100 EVs...
Good work bro
I know a 16-567D1 when I hear it!
we have similar engine of 12v 567c in our sri lanka railways class M2 fleet
it sounds just like the train engines CIE had on the irish rail system years ago , they were often left idling over night as they were hard to start from cold when out on the rail lines in the yards at the main railway stations like dublin cork and limerick , i loved the sound of them are they two stroke or four stroke please and what kind of power output had they , good video by the way thank you
This sounds like a non-turbo EMD, maybe a 567 or 645. EMD 567, 645, and 710 engines are 2 stroke where their new 1010 is 4. The 645 is rated at between 750 and 4200 hp, I'd say this one is around 3000 but I'm no expert.
@@amessman your doing fine i must look it up Adam many thanks and happy new year ,she looks all muffled up for quietness as its down in the ship its a fine old engine and im sure there are alot of proud people looking after the engines , look at the shine on the GM plate as an example of the care taken ,, many thanks again Adam
At 1:44 you can see the scavenging blower so it's a 2 stroke.
@@williamkelley7654 Hello there William its a big engine , there used to be a Commer engine with a Roots blower on it ,i remember it well on that engine back 55 years ago as im sure the 5 cylinder Foden lorry engine also , many thanks for your message
This engine in its current configuration is only good for up to 2000 horsepower, or what ever that would be in kilowatts. Exact output would depend on whether it's a 567C, 567D1, or 645E.
When it's going to make that much noise... You Have to push the button with your Whole body! (I was pretty sure it was air start but still scared me, lol)
While it says GM diesel technically speaking these engine were built by the Cleveland Diesel Division of General Motors.
just listen to that thing purr.
What you are basically seeing & hearing is the insides of a Diesel electric locomotive
The sub tender I was on had England Diesel later was Detroit diesel engines I had four 16 278 and 4 16 278 Detroidiesels
I operated & maintained EMD 645's on aircraft carriers
Ear protection is very important.
back in a sec....need to put on my earplugs
That drone from my tugboat days
"Miracle Ear" here we come !
What’s the heat like coming from those engines in such a place?
Largest genset I ever saw in Person was a MTU Turbodiesel coupled to a 1000KVA generator head.
From start to full power was only 10 seconds or so since she fired immediately as you would expect from a preheated standyby generator for a hospital rolled coal like a mf until she was up to 1500rpm rated speed. Turbos sounded like heaven on that thing though.
The german Leopard 2 uses a similar engine from MTU.
Honestly I like these "smaller" gensets more since you really feel the power thats in these engines unlike these humongous roots blown sets turning at super low rpm.
Hi.thanks for you
The advantage of old GM diesels compared to other brands is the ability to be upgraded from a blower to a turbocharger and an intercooler.
Nice
When he started that thing the sound reminded me of Godzilla. I was thinking "Look out Tokyo!."
Blue Öyster Cult™ "Godzilla". 1981©
7;^> ...heh
I used to work on EMD’s on offshore rigs
Wow I want to install the engine on my Land Rover 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Is this at the cummins engine plant?
an EMD, world class. a few blow up, mistreated. emegency power-EMD. compresed air starter. lube oil has to be warm. emegency back up power is there, now the v20 710 is a must have.
Where is this? Looks like some sort of power station??
Yeah I used to work on those engine says in the power plant that I work at they took them out because they couldn’t pass the emissions imagine that
It's like a locomotive engine
It is. Same one in the SD38's and SD40's. I dont's know the sub grouping though. This one is non turbocharged like the SD38.
@@BossSpringsteen69 if it's a 645 then it would be a 645E if naturally aspirated in the 38 series EMD units. The one in the 40s is listed as a 645E3.
Thats because it is, that is a real EMD
@@precision430 Well, yes and no. GM's Detroit Diesel Division built the engine (in a locomotive it is called a "prime mover"). GM's Electromotive Division (EMD) built the actual locomotive itself (frame, body, wiring, electrical and electronics). Several years ago, GM sold off EMD. It is now a private company, but it still uses GM prime movers.
The 16V645 prime mover was used mostly in the "General Purpose (GP)"-series locomotives - GP-9, GP-15(?), GP-20, GP-30 & GP-35 {a limited number of each were made}, GP-38, & GP-40. I don't know if they were used in the SD line.
GM did experiment with a 20V645 in the SDP-45 passenger diesel. It was not a good design, as there were a lot of issues with broken crankshafts (a common theory was the length of the crankshaft, which couldn't deal with shear forces).
@@erzahler1930 I went to school at EMD in LaGrange Illinois, EMD built most parts of those engines right in that plant other than the crankshaft, a 2 stroke engine yes, but Detroit Diesel, no. I watched H beams and channels being welded together and machined creating the block, I was shocked the first time I seen that, another bit I never forgot was watching red hot valve forgings slide down a chute into a large crate and many more very cool and interesting things. All gone now purchased by CAT and a piss poor move on GM's part in my opinion. Detroit Diesels have been a part of my life from the beginning as well, my dad is a 50 year Detroit Diesel and Allison master.
I got the power!!!
Very nice
Trabalhei muito em barcos que usavam esse motor EMD.
👍👍👍💖💖💖
I need that for my house lol
Anti climax because they run so smooth
The genset looks good and why did it take long start please let me know
There was a period of barring the engine (without fuel) to ensure lubrication and to clear possible moisture, then it fired right up afterwards.
@@litz13 good explanation
@@sandasturner9529 on newer setups like this, it's an automatic process. On something older, like a GP9 locomotive, you'd open all the cylinder vents and crank it a bit (vents it, and prelubricates things), then you close the vents, prime it, and start it. Unless it's really really cold it will fire up almost immediately.
@@litz13 I know this is a bit of a stretch, but it's a lot like the old warbirds on which I used to work. Before starting a radial engine, you have to "run through" the propeller to ensure none of the lower cylinders are hydro-locked. Once done and no hydro-lock is present, then the ignition can be switched on and the engine started.
A common joke among A&P technicians is that when the starter is engaged, the cylinders meet in committee to decide which one will fire first!
@@erzahler1930 not much of a stretch at all - the classic EMD diesel is barred over for the same exact reason.
Is that the best sound on earth?
Yes
This obviously isn’t happening in America, cause OSHA would have you wearing muffs, gloves, fireproof suits, helmets, nail polish, condums, you name it!
And in a year without those protections, you’d be whining and trying to sue for your disabilities!😂
And would have you starting from another building or from behind a fire wall.
Just remember safety is our number one priority for you
...and a belt on your pants
So you're fine sacrificing your health and life to some company. Typical boomer mentality.
Doesn’t matter how big or small a Detroit is. They all sound the same
*IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO EXPLODE.*
Wow!.....
A tiny bit of power on demand to 'buffer' ruinbles.
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how many houses in ONE generator...
how long run motor and how many watts
That engine looks identical to a train engine with the access plugs in the side of the block.
Well funny enough it is the same engine as what you find in the locomotives, just fitted for stationary power application
Yeah I have one of these this is the 6.5 turbo they put in the hummers
Why do you need such big engine to turn the generatoris something ive always wondered
You know way more than I do but I usually let a diesel warm up real good before full throttle. This engine doesn't care?
А если бы штаны не поправил, то и дизель не запустили бы 😊
2500HP Get er done!
By the sound of it its naturally aspirated
One od thr gauges shows.GM Locomotive. Did tnis come out of a train?
Train engine? looks about the same size and same generator size
GMC 2 stroke diesel power The sound of victory