How NOT to Rig a Rope Swing - Start to Finish
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2021
- Please don’t rope jump! But this is HOW if you don’t listen. I believe it’s better to share safety systems than to withhold it if people are going to do what they are going to do. If we glamorize it on the internet, we can at least show what goes into it. Please don’t rope jump!
We include the prep, the rigging and the forces we got after jumping. I did this with Brett Stewart and Jaco Santulli who have built Studio Page, a better platform for creators. studio.page/. We did NOT use a haul system and so we ascended the rope which a whole different skill set. Haul systems can be seen in our other rope jump videos.
Our results:
The MBS of the entire system is approximately 44kn or 10,000lbf.
I’m 160ish lbs and we got 2.79kn (627lbf) shared by both ropes and the main webbing got 3.36kn (755lbf).
Brett is 240lbs and he got 3.99 (896lbf) shared by both ropes and the main webbing got 3.98 (894lbf).
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Intro
02:09 Prepping in basement
12:13 Traveling to Fruitbowl
15:26 Getting Line Across
16:57 Building Anchor A
19:52 Building Anchor B
22:00 Tensioning Line
25:01 Throwing Bag & Safety
27:35 Jumps & Forces
30:07 Conclusion
31:39 Ending
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“If you’re going to die it has to be because something fails, not because you fail”
Love it
2:47 really embarrassing to die if nothing fails. Made me spit my morning coffee out with this one.
It's true! :)
Your motto should be "If youre gona be stupid, be smart about it"
Thanks for all the hard work
I can't stress enough how amazing job you guys are doing
20:25 "Take all the time you need to think about that" 👍🤣
love the timestamps. watching them in non-chronological order makes me feel like a timetraveler
If this overhang rock fails that you are still attached to, it is going to be a lot of kilonewtents.
If you're scared there's always other hobbies out there you can enjoy.
Ryan, I’ve probably watched at least 100 of your videos, and this one is absolutely near the top. It is so incredibly cool that you are putting out beta like this.
Honestly I think this is one of the best channels on CZcams :) I will never highline or rope jump, but your approach to rigging, climbing and bolting is outstanding, every climber should watch this channel. And on top of that the production quality is fantastic!
23:09, I love that you get scared too :)
The sound he heard 500x, when the bolt is pulled out
That scared the shit out of me! Thank you so much for being safe and having the time of your life.
Very happy to see that some bigwig tv executives have taken a liking to your work! 100% deserved! This content is a perfect blend of education, humor, vicariously experiencing extreme hobbies, etc etc. Keep it up!!
If I was gonna try to jump, before this video I would say most definitely nope.. But after watching it, I was gradually receiving an understanding YOUR OWN understanding of how complex everything is, and the understanding you have of that complexity. I probably would have jumped just out of the sheer trust that I get from just simply understanding a lot of that(like how the forces work and such) Great content my dude 11/10 as always
That's mad! Appreciate the amount of work you put into these educational stuff!
LOVE your show, Ryan!! Can't wait for every Saturday to show up now!
I love the amount of content you put on your channel. Love this Ryan!
Best show ! So excited for the next episodes !
Dang I was hoping to see how they got back up. That was awesome!
Love your friends' reaction.
Awesome video! The quality of your stuff keeps going up and it’s great watching! Keep it up!
Great videos. I liked it. I subscribed it and I commented it. Algorithm leveled up.
That looks super easy! Im gonna head out and try it straight away 🤙
Love that color on the drop tower!
I've learned so much in this video. For example that I shouldn't rope jump. Or highline.
I love watching you enjoy yourself and having fun with others but I could never rope swing with you so I will just continue watching 👀 ☺️
Love the videos, it’s nice getting my head into rope problem solving during the daily grind. And congrats on the discovery show, I look forward to giving it a watch.
I have the exact same voice as Bret, felt like I was getting to listen to myself get interviewed. Seems like a chill dude🤙
Ryan! You should do a video on how safe "things adjusting" is.
I'm not even there and I was soooo stressed haha, excellent job as always!!!!
Sick set up team !
Great content as usual. I love the bts buildup to the kickass final results type of videos. Also, if you don't have a full size crash test dummy to use on the drop tower I will be very disappointed.
Yo that swing was dope af.. but now knowing what I know. I think your probably the only dude I would trust my life with on shit like this. Your the rigging mechanic
Great stuff!
I love love love behind the scenes rigging videos. They're my absolute favorite
Algorithmic bump
Awesome content as always 👌
no plans yet, but this has only made me want to do this kind of stuff more, your channel has given me so much confidence just in seeing how many levels of safety there are
Imagine being responsible for your safety though...
@@magnumpunch i guess im of the mindest that from what i have seen the only thing that will end up getting me hurt is me being dumb. i think the scariest thought is something breaking, and like ryan said in a more recent video, it gives me more trust in the gear and less trust in the rock/ice im putting it into. it helps to know that if im gonna die/get hurt from climbing its not going to be because my gear failed me, as long as im smart about it and know what im hooking myself into.
Those "levels" are not levels though, or layers, they are not adding on top of one another, for the most part. Almost each one is solving a distinct, separate danger, each of which only has 1-3 things stopping it from killing you, times 7 or whatever different dangers.
So cool!
At 23:10 it scared the piss out of me for a half second. I was watching intently and when it adjusted I thought it was a fail with you leaning out.
"It's very embarassing to die if nothing fail" should be your new meme shirt :)
Nice job! I took this commercial when I built Shotover Canyon Swing in New Zealand 20 years ago. Come for a jump sometime!
Eso fue loquisimo!!
I love the super good enough. I’m so using that phrase in the future. Next time you all do this you need to use a ton of wile e coyote references. 😂
AWESOME
I need to do this
YOU should have a show on discovery plus.
hey bud! love your videos! hey so iv rigged this swing a lot back in the day. the gear you are using didn't even exist at the time. my question for you is, is using static ropes as your lines across the canyon considered not cool any more? every one in this area was using this system. each line was tensioned on a petzl ID, tied off, span set anchors, giant old style steel shackles etc.... obviously your rig is much softer due to the stretch and bounce of the webbing. just wondering your thoughts. thanks you
That 10:1 ratio is before you consider the force-multiplier of the load angle on a tensioned line. i.e load in the 'horizontal' parts is the same as the hang rope if the angle is 120 degrees. Not sure what angle you end up with but given that your hang and tension lines have about the same numbers I guess it must end up at about 120 degrees under load. Too much tension would reduce that angle and increase the loads on the tension line significantly. It's easy to double them with tyroleans.
That swing does look like _so_ much fun (and also fairly terrifying). We're a bit short of massive cliffs like that round here but there must be some good spots to rig a rope jump in the alps.
I came here mainly because of the (climbing related) tests that you do, but damn. This looks super fun, but super terrifying, as well. I'd probably shit my pants.
Great explained.
If my life depends on it, I now have a slight chance to do it without dying.
But, because my life depends on it, I would probably never do that.
Oh yeah, and I'm probably too scared to even do it with a professional.
But now I start to understand people that are doing it. Yes, it's really dangerous. But with the right gear set up right and executed right, it's pretty hard to die.
got to do this jump, one of the most amazing things I've ever done. If you get the chance to jump, do not let it pass.
Awesome! Is there any way I can watch “pushing the line” somewhere online? Living in The Netherlands, so discovery+ isn’t allowing me to watch in my country.
I wanna do this now
Holy cow, that blue and red rope for anchor #2 looks like an Edelrid from the 1980s.
"Respect the edge" -Ryan
100%
One of my buddies died after he finished a climb up in J Tree because he was looking for some anchors to rappel off. He was an experienced climber too which made it that much worse
@@clanknfrends1 damn, sorry to hear that. It is a dangerous sport to be taken seriously. Thank you for sharing.
This is one of my dreams.. I will probably do it in like 10 years..
I want to see you get out of there!
Well done on redundancy!
I know it isn't in keeping with highlining directly, but a tangent. I am curious to know how much tension is on a typical 30 degree hammock hang line with a load in the hammock. (max rated load?) It would be good to know the ratings needed for the components and what it is hung from. Thanks!
that big soft padding that says Gibbon @3:20 - I'm having trouble finding it online. Any idea where you got it?
Great video. Quick comment/concern. For a personal anchor you are using a daisy chain. As a climbing instructor I teach people to never use diary chains as personal anchors. They are for aid climbing only. Recommend you use a P.A.S. or just a sling or even better for your specific use (working at the cliff edge where you could fall on your anchor) a dynamic personal anchor like a Petzl Connect Adjust. Daisy chains should never be used in situations where any fall is possible. In other words body weight only. Otherwise great video!
Wouldn’t a sling (especially Dyneema) see too much force during a fall? Since they dont stretch. Having watched these guys videos I a now never going to allow any slack when attached to an anchor with a sling anymore.
Have you ever tried a different shape of quicklink in the webbing setup? I'm sure it wants to load up correctly when tightened but just curious if another shape would hold the loops with a better bend radius...Do they make square quicklinks?
They do make square quicklinks but the ring sometimes doesn't like to slide over it as well and after some tests the oval ones didn't really reduce strength
hey . What changed from the last rope jump that you had 7,8 webbings compared to now that you have a typical highline ? The fact that only 4 5 people jumped ? Or you feel like 7 lines are just more sketchy than 2 beacause of the abrasion to each other ?
Hi,
I wonder, how far can you fall into a static safe belay, like a Nylon ir Dynema sling, before it gets dangerous?
Please. How did they get back to the top... I see they climb... but how do the get off the swing. Or how do they get to the rock??
Smiling well popping
23:16 Always have your heart clipped in near a cliff edge!
i thought i had some loose screws.......none of yours are tight!!! lol. great videos i just started watching and subbed!
At 0:20 does anyone know how they get the camera so that whatever selfie stick type thing they're using appears to be invisible? I'm guessing it's in post-processing since the video warbles a bit around it, but I'm not sure how that's done.
whats the shirt you wear on the beginning of the video?
Like your approach. But just a question...your safety dyneema sling, to save you if you slip, seems quite slack. In a fall over the edge won't the impact of the non-dynamic sling suddenly tightening hurt you. In rockclimbing I use a tie-in sling that is a bit dynamic, or make sure there is no slack if using dyneema. Love to hear your comment. Thanks.
There is so much dynamic-ness with the webbing and ropes and what not that if we have a static part in the system it is mitigated by the stretchy stuff. see our shockloading is a myth videos. there are two
@@HowNOT2 I think he meant your tie-in near the edge (e.g. at 18:47). If you fall from the edge there is sufficient slack in the sling to peak load above breaking strength. Personal tie-ins to achors should be at all times kept in tension when not static, or use a dynamic tie-in (e.g. Petzl Connect adjust). But hey, a bit off-topic from the video, it's about rope swing, not climbing safety.
What is the best rope? For rope jump.
Exactly what is happening in the shot at 29:59? it looks almost like he has pushed off with his feet from the rock, is that just hard to see what really happened or was he able to touch the rock while hanging from the rope?
What if you replaced the leash rings the swivels were soft shackled to with some locking biners clipped through the quicklink and backup soft shackle? Then you wouldn't need to worry about it sliding out of place. Or maybe just thread the quicklink and backup soft shackle through the swivels directly?
Only issue I can think of would he loading the quicklink weirdly?
That isn't a bad idea. I might test that. I would just make sure the carabiners stay orientated correctly
@@HowNOT2 let me know how much that test will cost and I'll shoot ya an extra donation for it.
Stay safe!
How do you get back up?
So did they cut out the testing the rope swing with a bag on pushing the line? they made a big deal about andy going first lol (edit: found my answer in another comment!)
Glad to see some burly boy testing!
Do you guys ever use rangefinders up top to check clearances on obstructions or walls?
Yes
Would you trust the rigging work on the bungee jump towers or bridges that are "commercially" offered in some places in general? Bc i saw people with different weights all yeet off of the same setup with the result of some of them getting yanked up by the bungee and coming very close to poles on the bridge etc so i never wanted to jump off of stuff like that. Seeing you building your setups makes me wonder how much care and caution people invest into these things in comparison to the stuff you guys make
Most of the time they are super safe :)
3:40 reminds me of the (i think) Niko Schirmer video with the infamous 30m rope that says its 60m long.
curious how much someone has to jump outwards to change the trajectory enough to hit the wall. It looks scarily close
When was pushing the line filmed?
October and November 2020
You should be a professor at MIT or some other techy school. Your such a great teacher. You really are.
How the hell do I find someone to go with to do stuff like this? I live in Texas and really want to find a group to tag along with!
I watch all your videos because they're rock climbing related. I don't want to buy all the gear to set up a rope swing but I'd like to do it just once. Do people do "tours"?
you can hit me up on ryan@slackline.com and I'll see what i can do
love the rigging side of things so this video was ace as you explained every detail. Still god damn scary though haha
Could you rig a line like this and drop a super heavy bag of it to see if you could break it.
I don't think rope rigging is as complicated as car transmissions so therefore I'm not sure how I feel about that analogy however I agree with your overall advice.
Goatttttttt
Why the fuck this show is not streamabble in my country. Can someone share it anywhere? Has anyone an idea where to watch it?
I definitely want to rope jump now, but only if you set it up for me... and go first.
Is this a new thing?
@13:47 hey that's my gym lol.
How long are the ropes you use for the anchors?
about 10 to 15 meters
@@HowNOT2 static or dynamic?
OMG you guys are insane it was absolutely horrifying to me just watching y’all
How do you get back up??
Ascending on rope, and sliding out with hangover
Just found your channel. Nope I don’t want to do it.
Well, I don't think I have to do that personally, I already tense up when one of you jumps. have experienced a few good swings when climbing (14m fall from 16m height) now I have more respect for such things.
comment for the algorithm. Yaaayyy!!!!
On video it seems canyon walls are so close