F-35, Why is it the Best Fighter in the World Today?
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Despite the criticism, the people that really matter, namely the pilots and aircrews love the F-35 not only because it can fly as well as almost any other plane but it give the pilots so much more information so that they don't end up in a situation where the odds are stacked against them.
In this video, we look as some of the reasons why pilots think the F-35 is the best fighter in the world today.
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The F-35's stealth capabilities are extremely impressive. We ordered 72 of them in Australia, and 66 of them haven't been seen at all. Bravo.
That's quite the stealth capability.
It's down to 42 now.
@@bwickham195 so the stealth failed!
Damn good these American designers, aren't they? 😁
🤣🤣🤣
Bought one last week, great daily flyer
10/10 Best comment.
How's the boot space? Good enough for the Big Shop?
Nice
"About 25 years ago, in the mid-1990s..."
Why must you hurt me like this?
Because the mid-1990s might as well be the 1970s, for all the technological advance we have seen in the last 25 years.
You're so Old ... OMG
@@heavygustav
Keep livin'. Just Keep Livin', kid.
I hear ya, bro…
thats cap u 50 my guy
this mans literally got the RAF to sponser him
@@GlobalRage how am i butthurt? im just impressed he got the literall RAF to sponsor him.
goodbye objectivity..?
@@satyris410 I thought the same thing. It's a Giant promotion video.
he didn't get the RAF to sponsor him; the RAF paid him to make ONE propaganda video. Man, you're naive. 🙄
@@robertw6894 Why are you replying to idiots? Downvote and move on.
I was at the very first public demonstration of this aircraft a few years ago, Saturday in September at the Miramar Airshow. It did a loop went into a hover, stopped some hundreds of yards in front of the crowd, turned to face the crowd for half a minute, then turned back the way it was originally facing and flew away for more loops and Passovers. It was awesome and holy hell was it loud.
Hoolywood star in a F35: 'Switching to manual.'
I see you have seen the script for Top Gun 2.
And...crash!
@@ettvanligtkonto too true
Tom cruise would still think he could control it
737 MAX here
People dont understanding how much bugs gotta be worked out when every single new aircraft gets deployed, some dont even go into production...
The S-67, The original BlackHawk Helicopter, and the AH-56 Cayenne, with solemn resignation, raise their hands. Two attack helicopters that were quite literally "Airwolf" decades before the show ever aired shot down; one by politics and the other because it cost too much to build a second prototype.
the f 16 had just as many failures and bad press now its the best . when trying out brand new tech there is a small period where old tech is better . when the car came out the horse was superior still because cars were so slow and expensive 5 years later once the bugs got worked out it got cheaper and faster .
Because they produce garbage planes like the Saab Gripen and lecture us on what a good plane is. VERY FUNNY.
Sorry to say it, but the F-35 is a failure. With over 800 defaults, it's more a money hole than anything else. On thr paper, the features are great, but on the field.... that's a disaster...
So it's basically a semi autonomous drone except the drone operator is sitting inside it.
Yes, which is why this program is supposed to be/likely to be the last manned fighter the U.S. develops. The next gen will probably unmanned. Imagine the maneuverability possible if the health of the pilot is no longer an issue.
@@ohger1 They really shouldn't have bothered trying to put pilots in this generation either I reckon
@irvo44 lag and data covrege is also an issue.
Having the pilot inside the aircraft reduces the time for decision making.
To have the pilot outside the aircraft one would need a robust, low latency high bandwidth data network.
Like Starlink for example...
irvo44 Union rules, what can you do?
@@ohger1 They're doing a shit job though ... they could have (still could) run these jets with a virtual RIO seat ... basically a normal RIO except that one would actually not be sitting in the jet, with that system in place the transition to full remote pilot is dead easy.
A general rule of thumb when considering cutting-edge aircraft: great airplanes always come with teething developmental issues. If you create an aircraft that presents no issues during its genesis, then you've created an obsolescent design. I remember when the F16 was called a useless white elephant destined to bring the entire Air Force down with it. Seems to me the Fighting Falcon became a pretty darn good airplane.
That was my first thought when I heard the intro. I'm no pilot or aviation expert, but as an engineer, it made sense to me that the F35 would eventually be developed enough to be an excellent plane - especially with the insane amount of money poured into R&D. History has shown that repeatedly - the stars must really align for the first generation of such a complex machine to be without any issues.
I remember when the M1 Abrams tank was heavily criticized. Too expensive, too heavy, too fuel inefficient, the turbine engine would surely clog, on and on. All of the detractors shut right up when the US Army took them to war for the first time and monkey-stomped an entire army of Soviet quipped and trained Iraqi tankers.
This is true of all technology, really. Anything good is the result of evolution; it never just suddenly pops into existence.
Helium Road the *is* horribly fuel inefficient, though. They could fairly easily upgrade the engine to a newer model and save loads of fuel.
Agree. As Elon Musk said recently : "if you don't fail, you don't inovate enough". You learn by your mistakes. If everything goes too smoothly, you didn't push the enveloppe.
You know it’s getting real when he got RAF as a sponsor.
he is sponsored because the whole point of this is to get other country to buy it so they can get money. The plane? still fucking shit I never want to have to fly it I'm happy with jets that we fly today. the f35 is junk and is meant to scam money of of other country's. there is a reason they don't sell the f22 and that's because its AN ACTUAL PLANE instead of a money maker. yes there working to make it better but the us government keeps pushing Lockheed marten to get it out so they can make money. Me being an Australian our defense WASTED over 1 billion dollars on this hump of junk. oh and this plane can't take off in the rain, they are making a fix for that but we still don't have that yet and the radars fucked.
@@biggles9604 The US bullies its "allies" or rather vassals to buy the F35, like for example Norway that wanted to go their own way with Sweden building something indigenous.
@@biggles9604 Are you a pilot?
Really dishonest, yes.
So many 'experts' and armchair analysts respond to this comment.
Something that just keeps proving true is that the general public has very little understanding of how development and testing of new technology works.
Heck they and Hollywood seem to have that idea about good concepts in films with poor execution. It failed once why try again?
I was thinking the same thing
Indeed but with different outcomes. This airplane needs a network to so it can benefit from cooperating with different weapon systems in the whole army, from satellite imaging, through Ground to Air missles, Ground to Ground and fleets of drones sent to the areas where there is a high density of enemy AA. It's great for rich countries like the USA, especially for use over vast and poorly protected territories like seas and desserts. It makes no sense for poor frontline countries that don't have any of these things, and sometimes not even a solid anti aircraft and anti missle defence to shield those planes while on the ground. Yet it is sold to some countries that don't even have up to date AA, or money to keep F-16s running.
And crying Russians who can't stealth, build, pilot but only lie online.
The have a keen understanding of how anyone who has ever been associated with the program in any way has robbed them blind and they are pissed off about it. The truth is that it's got nothing to do with how good or bad the aircraft is. They were robbed blind because of how development works with the government. It's a blank check and hopefully it works out but take as long as you want, charge as much as you want and who cares. Lockheed Martin has taken that as far as they possibly could with development and there's zero indication that's going to change in maintenance and improvements of the aircraft.
I'm impressed! I'm a software developer. I had an internship in 2007 at an avionics contractor and wrote some databus test suites for the F-35. From the beginning they had big plans for handling an epic amount of data in the cockpit. This video does a great job of getting the big picture right from my experience talking to Air Force guys and staggeringly smart nerds at the time.
These aren't new features. Everybody was already working on the helmet that let you see through the floor. Multiple feeds of high-res real-time video was a big deal at the time. The things the Air Force was most excited about were the next-level avionics and the fact that they didn't need the cold air fan - but they still got to have a weapons bay with a 30,000 ft-lb. PTO shaft. I'm not saying the USAF is putting energy weapons in there, but they were certainly happy to have the option going forward.
The F-16 was the first plane to use the 1553 databus. You can see the prototype YF-16 fly-by-wire testbed at the USAF Museum Annex. The spec is from 1972, and in 2007 I had to look at manuals from 1972/73 to work on the F-35's.
1553 is amazing given its age. It's a databus similar to MIDI. But MIDI (released in 1983) is slower than dialup. The 1553 databus is 1 mbit and has all kinds of redundancies. Every device needs to function even if every other device is destroyed or sending bad data. You still have reliable control surfaces and fire control on the left wing even if the right wing is missing.
The F-16 was made after the F-15, and It's less expensive, but the F-16 had vastly superior avionics. The F-15 was later retrofitted to catch up to the F-16. The F-22 vs. F-35 are similar. The F-35 has vastly superior avionics to the F-22. It uses a high-speed fiber optic version of 1553 called 1773.
But 1773 wasn't invented for the F-35. It was just the addition of the actual high-bandwidth communications. The 1773 databus was actually used by NASA in space probes starting in 1992. NASA didn't need any extra bandwidth. 1773 originally ran at the same 1 mbit speed as 1553. That was still fast in 1992. They just wanted fiber for resistance to EMF.
In 2007 we were working on combining 4 Gbit and 8 Gbit Fibre Channel 8b/10b communications with 1553 signaling over 1773 for the F-35. These days Fibre Channel is up to 256 Gbit.
This is the most detailed documentary film I've ever seen about the F35 and its capabilities. Some CZcams channels are providing some great content.
Yeah. A made for TV documentary would have half the information in double the time, not counting ad breaks.
Paul Westwood try the fifth estatate F35 its a shit plane
@@timtec3000 Yeah, I'm sure I trust a guy who says that the F-15 is a bad plane and would have been easily beaten by an F-16 with no radar.
@@infinitelyexplosive4131
You know the F-15's has been beaten by F-16's over the years.
Being that it is by far the most expensive military project in history, and by far, you would expect this aircraft to be best.
As a controls engineer, watching the F35 recover from a high angle of attack stall was freaking amazing!
Akash Hegde Talk to me, Goose.
Same can be done with Eurofighter, which detects pilot' unconsciousness and stabilizies aircraft at shallow ascent.
Watch su 57 or older models. US can't build vector thrust engines. Russians can maneuver away from missiles f35 can't, in a dogfight f35 has no chance.
US is flying on WW2 engines because politicians stole all research money.
@@vitalygoji the F22 has thrust vectoring engines.
@@vitalygoji
The US has build a lot of thrust vectoring fighters, including the X-31, F-18 HARV, F-16 VISTA, and the F-22. Also, the F-35 can actually out-accelerate SU-35 in subsonic region.
Wifi: goes down
F-35: *confused screaming*
Chris Cunningham plot twist: it’s got a built in hotspot
Oh an enemy nation would have fun hacking these planes and their networks.
you have to turn off airplane mode
One nuke 250 miles high and you can say global f35 capabilities drop to flying blindfolded. *WiFi goes down *F35: confused screaming
Can't take a joke these people. "Aaaaaacckckckttttchuuuuaaallly" they don't use wifi." Yeah stfu
Finally finally someone made a proper video about the F35. Thank you Paul
@Cloud Burst 117 it's ironic that you say that because the exact opposite is true. Wow the uninformed news media likes to wring their hands and cry about the F-35, pretty much every credible pilot report from guys actually flying it are gushing. They love it.
@Cloud Burst 117 this is the United States, not communist China. If a pilot was flying a plane and it turned out to be highly malfunction or even deadly, and they didn't report it they would be in serious trouble. Very similar Thing Happened on the F-22 when the oxygen system was malfunctioning and almost killed a couple pilots. No one was pretending otherwise.
Furthermore, even if it was just Politics, the reports would not end up sounding the way they do. The pilots might have nothing bad to say about the plane, but they also wouldn't say anything good. They would just keep their mouth shut and try to tow the line but when they come out on their own volition and talk ecstatically about how much they liked it, and how much they were surprised before they got in the cockpit, you can pretty much consider - taking into account the full context of the situation - that they are telling the truth.
@Cloud Burst 117 no he's saying that because most videos on the f-35 are jingoistic they're made by those US military channels
@Cloud Burst 117 I wouldn't describe it as a bucket of bolts it has great potential it just needs to have it flaws ironed out there was similar critism of the harrier
I remember thinking the f35 was garbage back in 2007, and it was. The Paris airshow was the demo for all of the fixed, and it was great. I can only imagine what's been fine tuned since then.
About 7 years ago I spent several hours on a F35 simulator over a few days while at a defense trade show. I am not a pilot but the Lockheed rep was and he was able to get me to do some amazing things. This video is by far one of the best I've seen that captures the sheer amount of info I saw. I was able to target Air to Air, Air to Ground targets etc . Like 8 of them, all at once. The computer prioritized them and I just authorized weapons release. I really cant do it justice with how much info there was, how it wasn't info overload either, because it was prioritized etc. I cant imagine just how deadly a pilot will be, let alone a pack of these
I've been trying to explain to people for years that this is 3 separate planes with commonality and it isnt overly expensive because it is 3 brand new 5th gen planes that are developing the planes but also the network, lack of a better term. They should have called them 3 different names it would have been better PR possibly.
This plane is amazing. Excellent job Paul, no kidding. Really. Thanks
Of course if you called it three different planes, then the probability that the B version gets axed because it has had the most teething problems increases ( nevermind the fact that the B version uses a revolutionary new form of VTOL and is instrumental in getting multi national buy in by countries like the UK which need it for their carrier fleets)
How do you know his name?
worth noting that the parts commonality was a little underdelivered, ending up at ~25% rather than the desired 70%
@@RaidsEpicly Wasn't that calculated by weight though? You can really show anything by switching the way you count those parts.
I worked for Lockheed when it was being built. It’s an utter ball ache working somewhere like that. Every door needs a key card. No more than one person through any door at one time. No phones. With cameras or recording devices. So basically no phones. It used to take me 20 minutes just to get to the toilet. That being said, despite the fact didn’t enjoy working there they run things very well
Might trade in my Camry for one of these. Cut some time off the commute.
In fairness, if BMW and Tesla had a baby... it'd be the car version of the F-35.
I am sure my neighbors would not appreciate it. Oh what I am saying, my neighbors would be the engineer, maintenance and refueling crew.
Sure
i'm afraid the camry is more reliable
Nah, I don't like the colour of the RAM material. /s ;)
F35: sees something
Literally every ally: mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine
well they dont have a choice rly.. they could like grab a gripen which is probably better but the US made the best fighter, the F22 just for themselves and make another one like a mass produced airliner that sucks and then get angry at allies for not spending enough on military
@@tgn2502 LOL no. Yes, the F22 is a better plane in terms of maneuverability and matching up 1v1 with other air superiority fighters. However, the F35 was designed to be the best, most versatile, high level multi-role fighter. It was designed to replace jet fighters such as the F-15 and F-16 which makes up the backbone of air forces everywhere. The F35 will be the new workhorse fighter for the world (US allies, anyway). The program cost was very high, but the F35 is an absolutely excellent plane, and the per unit cost is not all that high anymore. Besides, no one is angry, plenty of allies have been swooping on the F35s, because they realize what a great fighter it is, it is without question the most advanced fighter available on the market, and the cost is very competitive now. Iraq paid more for F-15s ten years ago, than the current cost of the F35 to allied nations, such as Norway and Japan.
@@dr.j5642 but the f35 is still worse in fexabilty then a super hornet or relear hornet tecanly if would of been better if they just upgraded the ecleronic weapons computer and flight computer and engines with this tech they made instaed of wsting it on a new airframe that is just noware as good when it comes to the alvabity of the kinds of mission profiles you can have the F35 still is just not as fexable as a super hornet when it comes to fexabily in most tactal stwations just becuse of got a better elections won't help you if you can't enage the enemys becuse you can't shoot at them from the lack of proper amount weapon hard point mounts can't shoot at the enmy if you don't have the wepons for it and the F35 is a large step backward when it copared to the super hornet becuse the F35 cant carry even half of the payload of a super hornet well untill resitly anyway took them long ennoth but still one F35 R&D cost cuold have been spent in just upgreding hundrads and thounsands of super honets in the long term with the new ecletrnics and vector thrust tech instead of the F-35 airframe with the R&D cost alone like an upgradedsuper hornet would only be like $100 million with new tech instaled of every untit but how much moeny it took to fix the flaws of the F-22 into the F-35 the last 4 years $428.4 billion but of corse hte cost of makeing a new massprodeced F-35 is tecaly around the same cost but ufornly the R&D buget for the F-35 knda make that point less in the lone term like come on the us could have just upgradedthe super hornet with the F-22 computers and engines from the falled R&D proget would have saved way more money then to just thow more money to just deine F-35 by just combieing the faled F-22 with the hardponits of the F-18 F/A D but still lockhead just forced the US to wast more moeny to fix the F-22 flaws to make the F-35 but wast it worth wasting money to make a new aircraft line instead of just upgrading the super honet agen like for the tenth time in o row no it wats not worth the money at all the f-22 and the f-35 is just a lockhead scam to just make the faled F-22 then force the us to bascly get the modern elctrnics to bascly a body kited super hornet knock off for even more money just to do so
@@ashtiboy jesus, do you even speak english? I got a migraine from trying to decipher the first paragraph alone.
@@ashtiboy F35 is more capable than the super hornet and it doesn't need modernizing. F35 has the highest fuel and weapon carrying capability short of the F15. You could crush a super hornet into cute little bomb looking things and the F35 could carry it on its pylons. The hornet can't do that with the F35.
Damn, the amount of software to control that thing must have been an absolute nightmare and probably one of the main reasons the thing went so catastrophically overbudget.
9 millions line of code actually are the heart and largest part of the F-35 program.
The su35 is better
@@alanaban3519 yes, a souped up makeshift airplane form a poor country is for sure better than the F-35... LOL 😂 . And please explain how it is better? Under wich conditions, in wich mission, etc.
Comparing tactical platforms is a very difficult task and the outcome always depends on a specific situation, but Mr. "actually don't know shit", Alan Aban just knows .. the su-35 is better ... LOL
Go back to your basement.
@@alanaban3519 Did you not watch the entire video above this here comment section describing how the f-35 can partially fly itself and see literally everything around it??
@@alanaban3519 Sure, if you're watching it with no external mounted weapons and a full combat load. The SU35 is pretty craptastic the moment you make it lethal.
I’ve always heard the F-35’s biggest strength was it’s stealth and massive situational awareness, but to see and hear it right now puts that experience to a whole other level.
IT'S VERSUS ITS
LEARN TO SPELL FIRST MORON
I'm an F-35 technician and I freaking love my job
Luckeeeee
has it downed a single enemy craft? will it ever?
I build them in Ft. Worth and also love my job. I've been doing structures & sheet metal aircraft maintenance for over 20 years, never did manufacturing, but building this airplane is so much fun I actually look forward to going to work every day! I walk a mile (literally) down to final assembly once a month just to see the completed airplanes.
Your job says nothing of your product.. Just sayin..
@@DrWhom
Hopefully not.
The whole reason for developing and deploying a (supposedly) technically superior weapons system/platform is that it remains an ever present threat to any opposition.
If the enemy simply cannot destroy the aircraft, they will not attempt to engage it, and in theory force a more diplomatic conclusion to whatever incident may have made the opposition consider taking military action.
The English Electric Lightning in RAF service is an excellent example of the above.
I was one of the staff that forged the races for the engine bearings.... they were 36” round, 4x5” thick.... but because the material was such a dense titanium, you could pick these big ass things up with no issues by hand!!! Fun fact, we had a couple that were not good enough to ship, we would hit em with a hammer when ever we walked by just to hear the bzzzzzzzzzzzz for hours! That engine has some serious metal in it!
@@jc.1191 size by assumption can be listed, however exact specs can’t! I know the numbers, you think I will post them exact? Your on crack!
"F35, best fighter in the world"
F22 Raptor: Am I a joke to you?
Yeah, but Raptors are Not For Sale.
No one wants them
yeah it is a joke, sure its one hell of an aircraft but there is literally no need for it and besides the f-35 is better at air to air combat
RC stuff the f35 is definitely not better in air to air combat. The f35 doesn’t have thrust vectoring.
@@Mac10Daddy Yeah got confused there, f35 is better at air to ground. regardless the f35 is still significantly better is some aspects because it is a multirole fighter after all
"...and hovering [with harrier] was like riding a unicycle - you have to continuously pedal or move something, whether it'd be your left hand, your right hand or your feet." That pretty much describes each flight of a heli pilot :D
Wasn't the pilots who could perform the VTOL manouver on the Harriers the best also heli pilots?
3:23 This model Airwolf is so awesome!
I wasn’t humming the theme tune when I saw it ... honest!
The rack reason I only buy motorcycle helmets with internal sun visors :D
@@metalfatigue708 I was... and you're a fibber ;D
@@metalfatigue708 you weren't humming along? 😬
*Stringfellow Hawk wants to know your location*
I remember the Public Broadcasting (US) - Nova series on "The X Planes" roughly 20 years ago - during development.
It is said that Lockheed Martin pretty much tore up that design and started from scratch again after the competition. Why? Well one; that plane couldn't deliver (either) and 2; because taxpayers fund the research.
@@arcanondrum6543 It was a "proof of concept/technology demonstrator" fly-off between X-35 and X-32, same as YF-22 and YF-23. Todays Raptor has NOTHING to do with the YF-22 and the X-35/F35 works the very same way. And yes, taxpayers fund the research, because they are the customer!! Do some research and thinking before you post.
I remember that! Loved that episode
Finally, a channel that talks about the F-35s networking capabilities instead of versus videos.
I wonder if this is the last generation of fighter that will have an onboard human pilot. It sounds like the F35 doesn't need much direct controlling.
We can't be far from UAV-Fighters that can react faster than a human, and can handle manoeuvres and forces that would liquefy a person.
Nah, still don't have the processing power for that, would need a supercomputer plus the military and the public would NEVER accept a completely autonomous military machine, for fairly obvious reasons. The next best option would be remotely controlling the plane and a remotely controlled plane would introduce unacceptable delays in response times. Just look at the drones we have now.
I think we might reach a point where the pilot pretty much becomes a passenger who only grants permissions for use of weaponry, letting a human have the final say.
Already these fighters operate on same carrier deck or airbase where drones are launched. But I dont think that human pilots will disappear completely. Some proportion will remain.
@@claqyagami6914 Pretty much, I mean, the only drones that actually have full autonomous flight are recon drones.
For released information about US 6th gens specification.
Future generation (likely) will be able to chose to be man or unman if need be. US will be focus on doctrine of a group of drone wingmen control by human pilot.
I don't think so. We still have a ways to go to get AI to that point. But what I wonder is why can't they be flown remotely like a drone? The plane could be smaller if it didn't need to house humans, it could endure higher G forces, and there's less risk to human lives.
I always love when a Science Varys video shows up!
Lol, best description ever
Shitty description ad homonyms from over a year ago. You know originality is the spice of life.
@@Jameson1776 woah you are so e d g y
F-35 is doing 15 better in development than F-16 at it’s infancy.
During development, there were times Air Force lost 1 F-16 a week.
You forgot about the engine. Its the highest thrust to weight jet engine in the world.
"Ah, finally an unbiased view on the subject" was what I thought when I saw the thumbnail. Then I discovered it was sponsored by "Royal Air Force Engineering". Too bad.
It was still factual information
That doesn't infer editorial control does it? Conspiracy Theorists and intelligence seem to be a non intersecting venn diagram.
@@Insectoid_ Nope; for most, it was repeating of adverts and would be's.
It wasn't unbiased. Didn't you see who sponsored the video?
@@AndresGrimace Yes, it's biased against the F-35.
The media get paid by the amount of views they get. Quote mining official reports to make the F-35 project look ridiculously bad has been an easy business model for a decade now. There was no need to be factual because people will actually buy anything as long as it's outside of their expertise.
In this video the writing was still tainted by the media lies, for example there was no F-16/F-35 dogfight that the F-35 lost because it wasn't a dogfight. A fucking blogger made up that lie and all the mass media picked up on it.
Love your videos, Paul. They’re always so well researched and delivered.
It's crazy how he does it, it's like magic
I dont see the sources in the description. Anyone know where he put them?
Paul, you’ve presented the clearest view of the F35; thanks so much. I read several of the anti F35’ers and am reminded of the viscous nature of the Channel 4 types. Congratulations, my friend, you’ve gotten another convert. Dave in Phoenix Arizona USA
After playing few hours of DCS, the technology shown here is gets even more amazing.
Sponsored by the RAF lol, I was waiting for something like that!
How the best fighter in the world is made by the US, sponsered by the RAF lol getting cucked out here
damn. I had doubts when I read the title, and hope it was to setup a twist. good thing I checked to comments first.
I love this channel, but guess I'll skip this one.
@@nonamedpleb No please don't skip the video on account of my comment!!! It's still a very good one, I just thought it was amusing is all ; D
What is the issue with the sponsor. It's a great video. If you think CD is biased well you haven't seen his work. If he thought this was a bad airplane he could have rejected the sponsorship and made a video about how bad the F35 is.
@@nonamedpleb CD is probably the least biased channel like this.
Gonna need some popcorn for this comments section...
Underrated comment nice
Nice
F-35 is like a computer so when you need it like WW3, its doing updates with a message saying.
( Please don't tune off jet - Loading 2% - approx time 2 hours remaining ).
Just don't leave it in plane mode over night.
it's
@@DrWhom
It's.
Penny wise with family, it's the it's.
Lol.
Loading 2 hours remaining?! No. 2 WEEKS remaining. Because it's boardcomputer has a softwarepackage of 24 million lines!!! No, I am NOT kidding. Besides that, the 'skin' of the aircraft is so thin, that a 20 mm round from an AA gun, can set it on fire. This is because Lockheed left a fireproof part OUT of the design, because it made the F-35 to heavy!!
So, the F-35 is a giant piece of SHIT. Period.
@@Kirovets7011 lol, "period".
How i fucking despise things viewed by people as being either "black or white" , with no gray area, no parlay, no room for speculation nor doubt.
Its either a 0/10 or 10/10.
It is quite sickening for me to see.
It pleases me that the RAF are advertising here. Not only because it's actually a cause i like, but it's a bloody smart place to advertise.
"WWIII has broken out, scramble all fighters!"
"-Sir, the fighter jet is busy doing a software update, it says on the screen please don't take off the jet. While we're at it would you like it to install Java or targeted ads? we could get a 15% off on refueling"
As if that’s something new with F35. Fighter jets have been running tons of software for many, many years. It’s just even more with modern fighters.
Software for decades has actually been sold separately from the fighter jets.
this isnt a windows computer lol
@@weasle2904 but odds are it runs on windows (honestly idk, but I do know other planes run on some military version of windows, or something)
Your jet must update and restart. Please choose a time.
This is why I love this channel: a hot topic, debunking decades of myths and presenting well researched facts in a calm & informative manner. :-)
Or maby it's because Paul is British... ^_^
And the video is sponsored by royal airforce engineering..
@Gmail X Political arse covering? What are they supposed to do buy an inferior aircraft? F-35 beats everything else, see first shoot first = win!
@Gmail X - See, what's cool here is that the marketing hype is actually true. This plane is literally built for the UK's carriers, BAE had a ton of input, and it is the pride of a wonderful friendship between the US and UK (plus our Aussie friends) that produced something amazing for the defense of both countries. This is an international marvel that should be celebrated.
@@Mediiiicc So cute.... Or, maybe... You F35 lovers just got scr... : Have you ever heard of the F22? The actual fighter made to beat any other? F35 is cheaper (I can't even believe writing "F35" and "cheap" in the same sentence) than the F22 but is still a huge gold eater. But everyone who paid for it have to go to the end of the program now (and imagine that it's a perfect plane, just to make it easier)
@Gmail X I've followed the F-35 project for almost a decade and every single time the reports and media were completely misrepresenting the F-35 to make a buzz, because that gives the media tons of views.
The F-35 didn't lose to the F-16 in a dogfight because there was no dogfight, it was an aerodynamics test where the F-35 was following a F-16. The idea of it being a dogfight came from a blogger. The same goes with the price, which was a projection for 2065 but was always thrown around like it was the actual current cost. The cost of the aircraft were always quoted wrong, with the big inflated numbers from 2011 being used all the way to 2018 or so. Morons like Pierre Sprey who opposed the F-16 having a radar and the Abrams replacing the Patton were making tons of bogus claims and he was given tons of airtime despite not working as an analyst since the 80s.
The funniest part? This video downplays the capabilities of the F-35. But sure, the moment it isn't media and their manufactured drama by quote mining official reports, now people are complaining about the validity of the information.
I'm absolutely loving your videos, I'm learning so much whilst being stuck indoors :D
Great vid ! Veeery interesting, with a lot of details of this masterpiece.
He smartly avoided the A-10 replacement claim :D Putting something that expensive close to a bunch of hillbillies with AK47 is very inefficient.
The whole point of aircraft like this is to conduct CAS at > 25,000 feet well away from hillbillies with AK-47's. Not to mention, in any real conflict, throwing A-10's at a bunch of proffesionals with integrated A2AD systems is also very inefficient. This aircraft is designed for CAS in an actual war, the A-10 is designed more for cas in an insurgency type scenario. Unfortunately, the next war isn't going to be against a bunch of hillbillies with AK-47's.
Hillbillies carry ARs not AKs and would not to firing on an F 35 as hillbillies like all F 35 countries except they regret Turkeys involvement. -Spokesperson from the hills
It does CAS by "seeing the ground" better, from much further away.
12 Small Diameter Bombs precision dropped from an F-35 at 40,000 ft is the combo intended to replace the A-10.
The only reason you need to be "close" in CAS is to use a gun, or to see what you're shooting at.
Supercruise gets the CAS where you want it fast too.
They have Strike Eagles for that, not all fighters in the US inventory will be replaced by the F-35.
Drones
Ah yes, the comment section. Welcome to the aviation engineering forum, please take a seat.
just experts and patriots down here
Oh yes, that's always the case, but common... this is sponsored by the very army that uses it....
So what? He thinks is a good plane and has a sponsor by the people developing it! This isn't a Mac you are talking about. I'm sure if he thought the F35 was a bad plane he would have rejected the sponsor and made a video about why is it a waste of money, like he has done with other subjects.
@@pmunoz7117 If it was sponsored by the Russian Air Force about something the UAC produces everybody would scream bloody "Russky propaganda" everywhere. So at least it should be treated equal.
If only.
As a mechanical engineer I can only imagine how hard and long the testing validation was on this plane
Thank you for the education regarding the F-35!! You did an excellent presentation. It is clear and concise!
I thought I was shit at flying helicopters when I first got my RC as a gift.
I still have my first 4CH heli. It costs more to replace the obsolete motors than to replace it, so it looks cool collecting dust.
Re: situational awareness. I read one account where a pilot was still sitting in his plane at the end of the runway but knew everything that was going on in the sky out to 200 miles because of the plane's networking capabilities.
It's calld link 11, 16 or 22 (and 14 before). Nothing new about that, just a costly plane able to do what other planes could already do.
@@a.herixe9048
But the F35 brings that data sharing to a very different level.
It is higher speed, more seemless and it shares far more data. In fact one F35 can be doing a bomb run, and 4 others providing air support. If one of the jets sees another jet, not only can any of the 4 simple touch the enemy jet o their screen, but now all others know that ONE pilot has engaged the emery. (no radio coms about which pilot has engaged the emery). Hey Joe,, there is a jet out ther, are you going to engage? No bob, I used up a few missiles and I think John should go, since he just said he has more fuel. Hi folks, this is John, yes, I do have more fuel, but I only have air to ground weapons load.
So, by the time they all talked this over, the enemy jet is either getting away, gone, or has dropped bombs on friendly troops.
With the F35? Not only is no radio coms required, not only in a flash will all jets know WHO just accepted the target by touching it on their screen? ALL OF THE OTHER jets actually see the missile track and EVEN time to impact when that jet fires it missile! So, all jets will even see the engagement process and even flight time in real time of missiles launched by other jets.
The other 4th gen jets don't even have the computer power let alone a high enough speed network to do this how the F35 does. The older data link systems pale in comparison as to what and how the F35 system works.
A lot of jet's have Datalinking and able to see miles out just sat on the Runway.
A. Hérixe Now What possesses you to come on here and make such a straight up ignorant comment? unless you’re just a moron .
There is nothing electronic in the F-35 that cannot be installed in an aircraft that is FAR BETTER at climbing czcams.com/video/Cwebkw1bg5s/video.html and FAR BETTER at turning czcams.com/video/15xPtIfQl98/video.html
Thank you for the great, very informative, positive review.
A good video! I wondered what you were up to at first with the model helis but it made sense at the end. Good job.
A few months ago, amongst all the negativity about it, I read something from a former F-16 pilot who was now on F-35s. He said that when he was on exercises in his '16 against them, u could be flying along, minding your own business and all of a sudden u were dead! Shot down by a '35 not having had the slightest chance to detect it! Needless to say, he was much happier to now be flying it!
Which is why it was so stupid to hear politicians saying we should just buy more Super Hornets instead. A plane that is essentially 1980s technology with a few updates.
It's simply strange since air to air combat has more or less disappeared, the F-35 has been developed for an enemy that doesn't exist and likely will never exist.
When was the last actual air to air shoot down, the first gulf war?
Worth that trillion $?
@@bodybag22 - So targets on the ground don't exist....okay🙄
@@ThisIsMyRealName they do and the A10 is more cost effective tool.
@@bodybag22 _"t's simply strange since air to air combat has more or less disappeared,"_
Can you guarantee it will stay that way? What if we didn't stay on the cutting edge and allowed another not so friendly nation to catch up? It's like the debacle of the F-4 not having guns in Vietnam because "missiles had made dogfighting all but obsolete." Better to have the capability and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.
_"the F-35 has been developed for an enemy that doesn't exist and likely will never exist."_
Su-57 and J-20. Enemies already exist on paper which is enough reason to develop something that can counter its theoretical capabilities well before they can get theirs into production.
_"When was the last actual air to air shoot down, the first gulf war?"_
China is constantly encroaching on Japan's airspace so the potential for an air-to-air engagement is clearly present for one of our closest allies and with a near-peer "enemy" no less.
_"Worth that trillion $?"_
For continued air superiority, better radar protection, cheaper to fly, easier to fly, and less information overload on the pilot? Yes.
3:25 I squealed when I saw "The Lady"... Airwolf has been my favorite helicopter since I first saw the show as a kid.
I felt the same way :)
Yup! :)
Your comment made me hum the 'Airwolf' theme.
@@TheCimbrianBull I do that every time I see that helicopter or the word "Airwolf" 😁
That show was awesome!
CD you really do a marvelous job with your research and presentation. Thank you very much.
3:25. Hell yeah. “AIRWOLF”. That was my favorite show when I was a little kid and that was on tv. That helicopter was bad ass
It was my favourite too. I was a kid then and Jan Michael Vincent was my pinup idol. Too bad what happened to him. RIP Jan! May you fly your Airwolf up the heavens.
The Yak 141 is looking niceee!
>sponsored by the RAF
Yeah, no bias here.
THIS!!
Or from you?
No bias in facts
@@coreyfellows9420 well he did focus on the advantages and didnt focus on its limitations like the air frame. As I remember it the critics say the same electronics could be loaded in to a more capable air frame.
@@dbuckleton F-22 F-35 Mix...
What an absolutely brilliant video! I learnt so much! - Thanks!
you do a damn good & informative video, great job!!!!
The smartphone of the skies.
aka xiaomi smartphone.. looks great, in reality always crashes and provides nomerous bugs
Imp Aug Jul Div Max ... are you a F35 Pilot or Lockheed Engineer?
The i35 Smartjet Plus S.
Bill Smith armchair pilot lmao
@@billsmith8605 are you?
8:40 you actually understated the situation in a fairly important way. If one is jammed, the others can identify the source and any members of the group, including the jammed one, can respond. Jamming one aircraft in the group takes out its jammed sensors only, it does not take the aircraft out of the fight. This is especially important when you consider that the jammed aircraft is the one that is almost guaranteed to have a valid firing solution against the source of the jamming.
is it necessary to turn off the radar of one in the squad, taking others feeds to avoid jamming while able to geolocate the source?
@@trungnguyenhoang6821 If I understand the question, the answer is fairly complicated. For most types of jamming, no you do not want to turn off the jammed radar, the data analysis package just treats its signals differently. If you start getting nonsense data from the battlefield management system and have reason to suspect a compromised sensor, then you may turn that sensor off to see if it fixes the nonsense problem.
In general, you want to gather as much information about the environment as possible including what a jamming signal looks like to the jammed system. That way, even if the current version of the software can't get anything useful from the system, later analysis of the data may be able to allow now features that analyze the signal and potentially give battlefield information that would not be available if the enemy was not trying to jam one of the members of the squad.
Very interesting. I never thought this thing would ever make it. Thanks for posting.
This guy got the RAF to sponser him.
*absoulute mad lad.*
"Why the F35 is the best" - Sponsored by an Air Force that owns them.
@@julemandenudengaver4580 It's actually mentioned in the description....
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Gotta justify the British public that their f35 purchase was sound
12:01
That is insane. Dibs on not being the guy who has to test that out! Lol.
There are a lot of aircraft that do such thing, even commercial available ones like the TBM850 for example. They have envelope protection systems. Also the F-22 raptor could also do this, so this is not new.
The aircraft are also designed to some degree [or they used to and the F15 was a champ at this* was self-correction due to aerdynamics pulling th eplane back to neutral.
Imagine the program chief didn’t tell the pilot about it.
@@huracan200173 Yeah, I remember watching a video of the F-22 pilot throw in the aircraft into a huge spin. Watching it recover itself made me wanna throw up hahaha.
You guys are missing a key part of his post: “test”
This might be a well developed system but when being implemented in a new air platform anything can happen with little time to account. Dibs indeed.
outstanding comprehensive video, clearly explained. thx Curious Droid
Love your videos! Keep up the great work!
Airwolf still has a cooler looking helmet.
Lol
And it’s own theme music ;)
The most important part of any plane is how badass you look while flying it
Lool a Motorcross Helmet
Nah, bruv. The helmets worn by the colonial warriors flying the vipers in the original Battlestar Galactica with the Egyptian crests...
At least, the sponsor of the video is completely unbiased.
Infectious laughter…🤢🤧😱😝😣😬🤒😷
yes, im getting very strong and biased vibes from this video
I’m proud to build the F135 engines in Palm Beach. These engines are outstanding. I really like how, during Red Flag exercises a couple years ago, an F-35 “shot down” five F-15s before they even knew they were targeted. Just awesome.
watching this makes me so excited for the tempest. I cannot wait too see us brits back in the aircraft game again.
All great planes have to be developed even when they are already developed, basically iron out the kinks and further improvements. I'm sure the F35 will be a legendary great plane.
The F-35 is all based around sensor fusion and being able to share that data with a large force. It's not designed to be a dog fight as it can identify a target, fire missiles and leave the area before the the enemy even knows it was there.
God I wish this could be confirmed though. I've grown to love this plane but I don't recall that the F-35 has ever done such a thing in real life, only in simulations. Would be nice if we actually got some prove other than what the statistics and simulations tell us.
And my god is this the best looking plane I've ever seen. I don't see how people think it looks ugly.
Yeah why would you ever engage in a fair fight xD
Did you watch the entire video? They debunked the commonly held misconception that the F35 is inferior in dogfights.
It can dog fight if it needs to, but it's designed to not even enter the fight in the first place.
Heck, it can fire a missile at a target another F-35 is looking at, then leave, while a 3rd F-35 guides the missile the rest of the way, making sure the enemy ain't able to track any plane's radar back to the source long enough to engage them, before an AMRAAM slams into their face.
Another awesome video! Keep it up man
Wonderful video. Thank you!!!
Love the carbon fiber custom helmets! Very interesting aircraft. I heard through the many RSS feeds I subscribe to with NewsBlur that the F-35 engineers had eliminated the much fabled bugs. And, that it was in fact far superior to anything else in the air. However, I was not able to get the details of the networking capability it had. Kind of an aircraft version of The Borg in so much as operating like a single unit with multiple nodes. So if there is a female wing commander, she'd be called the Borg Queen, (Not to her face! Show some respect for the pilot in charge!)
Thanks for your research. It's a fascinating airframe. Did close air support drills with Harriers when I was in the Marines. But the entire way that unit used to call in fire is gone. Now instead of maps and radios, it's satellite dishes and GPS. And I can see how much more deadly a networked system is over the conventional.
Subscribed!
You are a BS artist.
Saw the F-35 at 2017 Paris Air Show, and the maneuvering was outstanding. More impressively, it was *LOUD* ! It made the Rafale sounds rather quant.
A very good analogy with the remote controlled models and insightful advantages software logic brings to the sky.
Excellent video, very well put together.
In one sentence; It is the flight dynamics software coupled with the extremely advanced sensor suite software signal processing that sets the 35 apart from the bad guy's frontline aero weapons platforms...of course the stealthy characteristics are also quite helpful (a Ph.D. Engineer who works for a certain large American defense contractor.
I swear to god if anyone tries to claim “the F-35 cant dogfight therefore bad...”
See the spitfire has a smaller turn radius and turns tighter, and it is also much cheaper, therefore the F-35 is a overpriced and overhyped garbage!
You called it now that everyone is rushing to buy it. It's the best platform on the market.
Good commentary/information. Well done.
The F 35 looks amazing but I still got a lot of love for the Typhoon Euro fighter both excellent for the RAF and the Royal Navy. 🏴🇬🇧
@@oakpope I mean Typhoon for RAF and F35 for the Royal Navy what I meant as the Typhoon would be no good because it needs quite a long runway.
@Nathan Pether I also love the Eurofighter Typhoon because i made a Minecraft Animation video of the Eurofighter Typhoon on my channel which this video was a bit wrong.
Eurofighter production line is declining and I do not think they will make more batches of planes, just parts.
What an incredible machine! I'm very happy that Australia is adopting them to supplement, and then supplant our FA-18's.
throwing money away
it's your funeral, dipstick
F-35 is going to be the best defense purchase Australia ever made. Best bang for the buck. And a real problem for CCP China.
The simulations indicated at best 1 of the ordered 35 planes we have ordered would make it back from a sortie against our closest enemy.
How is that value for money?
@Cloud Burst 117 I think Australia only has about 20 F-35A's so far. They aren't flying around like F-18's because they're not 4th Gen fighters. Completely different missions. You don't see F-22's and F-35's hanging with F-15s, F-16's and F-18's in the US. If anything, they will use the F-18's as bait. F-35's operate as a wolf pack. 75 F-35's will put serious dent in much larger forces. They are up against ghosts.
Very good and precise explaining!👍🏾👍🏾. Thank u!🙂
The big tip-off that the F-35 wasn’t the boondoggle the press kept claiming, was last year, as it started entering service, the international orders for it went nuts. Lockheed can’t build them fast enough. Especially the B’s.
rrobertt13 You misunderstand. The A Variant is the land based Air Force variant designated as the F-16 and similar replacement. It is the most widely ordered variant for obvious reasons. The C variant is the naval carrier variant. That will have a limited number of clients and purchasers as not many operate catapult and arrester wire carriers. But the US Navy will be replacing its FA-18 fleet with it. So it’s a fixed and known number of planes needed that will not vary much. But there has been a sudden unexpected increase in orders for and inquiries about the B’s. Especially from South and Western Pacific Nations. As they get a look at it, and see it’s utility in converting Naval Helicopter Platforms to Light Strike Capable Carriers. Nobody expected Japan to suddenly add 50 B’s onto their A order. Nobody expected Australia to start talking about B’s. Or South Korea.
The ads are getting smarter
Lol, he forgot to put a link where you can buy one in the description
This isn't smart, it's just deceptive. Presenting this video as an unbiased review when it's clearly one big ad for the sponsor should be against the rules.
@@AhmetwithaT there wasn't deception, there was a disclosure at the beginning.
@@pisnotmynamesisnotmygame3757 No. It was a deception. The video title states that the F-35 is the best fighter in the world and on top of not proving shit they don't explain how the sponsorship interacts with the "facts".
I used to feel negatively about the F-35 until I started playing and understanding DCS. Then after learning about it's capabilities, I started to realize how absolutely amazing the F-35 is. In real world scenarios I believe it to be an incredibly effective weapon and a perfect compliment/force multiplier to all other aircraft in inventory.
haha what the hell same here . After flying stuff like the A10C , F16 and harrier they are all so complected when it comes to fast reactions and ontop of that information seems to be the key in air combat . If you see someone on radar before they see you .. you have won and if this plane is able to snipe enemy aircraft from the shadows without putting the pilot in any danger thats incredibly impactful .
There was also the g limits in the software early on and the flight control system being too conservative/stable. Things are loosened up now and it shows. That lift fan design on the B model is amazing, one major thing that just absolutely destroyed Boeing's proposal. Planes would be crashing and pilots would be losing their lives if Boeing won the contract with that ugly turd they came up with
Great upload. Thanks for your analysis.
I worked on the airframe design of the F-35 family and this is a good overview.
These helmets are amazing. All that technology. Really reminds me more and more about Star Wars and how many helmets have an similar interface like that build in
actually, starwars technology seems pretty low and outdated.
So what you're really saying is it has the best computer and data link in the world?
So what you're saying is they've signed up to Virginia media 100mb/s broadband package with free calls. ;-)
That’s 80% of an aircrafts combat effectiveness these days
It’s so much more than that. It’s the fusion of all the systems that integrated using 8 million lines of code and 52 iterations of the software.
@@williamtheiss5080 too bad that AESA, equvalent of EOTS, JHMC and datalinks are basically standard for combat aircraft today....
It is what he is saying and it is not true.
Excellent! Very well explained.....and reassuring!
I watched one of these hover about 30 metres in front of me at an airshow, wow its loud ! Very impressive.
will admit as a proud englishman that i was a bit miffed when the raf and royal navy scrapped the harrier inplace of the f-35. im just a big fanboy of the harrier and was in denial of the f-35s capability but over time i have warmed to it and i am well and truely impressed with this jet. deffinitely worthy of its home on HMS Queen elizabeth.
A friend of mine was a Harrier mechanic for the US Marine Corps back in the 90's. Let's just say he wasn't a fan of the bird. It was okay for it's one, very specific, and not broadly flexible role.
Well the problem was the Harrier was so incredible and so groundbreaking. There are VERY FEW history making examples that changed everything such as the Harrier. They are still flying today - and that is a stupid, beyond crazy 50 years!!! Yes!!! - 50 bloody years!
So I can well understand that when a Harrier flies over you take your pants off, drink a bottle of fine scotch and start dancing around in the room. There is not much more of a logical response one can make when talking about the Harrier.
It took 50 years and some serious wads of cash for someone to finally cook up a replacement for the Harrier - many have tried, but for 50 years the Harrier was the only VSTOL game in town.
Without question putting 30+ of these bad boys on the HMS q will result in a force projection of astounding abilities. In fact, it going to be some time until a USA super carrier will field 4 squads of F35's (one squad = 12-15).
The Harrier enabled forward air power projection with smaller ships. The HMS q is not all that small, and with these jets, the HMS q will be something that not only the UK never had, but something that is beyond a serious force projection.
Because of the F35 networking, then F35's will do a FAR BETTER job then any AWACS flying. Toss in stealth, and supersonic abilities? That HMS Q will be one hell of a trick pony - and one you would never want to mess with. No one in their right mind would want these things coming at you - and by the time you do see them? It all oh to late and the party will be over before you known it even started.
I do see the day when the HMS q will in fact adopt v22's Osprey, since this can and will give the HMS the ability to have air to air re-fueling.
What pissed me off was builing 2 semi-carriers. No cats and traps tied them into the worst verion (F-35B) with no communality with the US and French airforce.
Nicely done!
I got to see two F-35's streak low over me near Lake Powell last week. They were flying through the canyons doing maneuvers. It was a sight to see.
Wow, I'll bet that was awesome! About half the time on my way to work, on Lockheed Blvd, I get to see F-35s doing their thing, making noise, darting about and attracting crowds of photographers who park & exercise their high-power zooms. What makes me actually stop my car, get out & watch, is when A B model is hovering or flying really slowly. Awesome stuff! Love building them!
@@crooked-halo f35s real ability is above and beyond those Ariel stunts 1970s f16 I'm sure could do similar I keep hearing term situational awareness like flying under an Iranian f4 and telling its pilot you should be heading home now
Flying the F-35 must be like playing a video game. The amount of data coming in and the fact you can look around like that while the flying experience being so smooth is interesting.
The F-35 is not the only jet that has that capability.
There will still be a lot of haters just because of its immense politics
You mean it’s like a politician, full of hot air, doesn’t do what it promises, costs you a lot of money and you would be better off without it.....I would say you are spot on!
I only see bells and whistles. This is a gigantic money pit which doesn't provide any additional mission value. This could potential contribute to the bankruptcy of the US.
I make $40G a year. I'm $2mil in debt. I spend $150G a year... and I just bought a Ferrari... but its GREAT!
@@peter.a.langan5872 "better of without it" yep
The plane isn't even sexy. It's not a Phantom, let alone an F 14.... It's ugly. And it's ridiculously expensive. A bit like nobility in fact.