(16) MOKI LOCKPICKS
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2023
- **A MESSAGE FROM THE GREAT MOKI**
"To adress some things that came up in the comments, I would like to give a few more infos and updates on things to cover (hopefully) everything.
In general, that document was in the very first place to summarize a project I was working on and what I not exactly expected to become that big. So it’s definitely not some scientific paper, its my personal experience, at that time, with that current state of knowledge, basically a small diary. It was meant to be shared with the community I am involved in and to give people something to read about a project they might enjoy following.
About the AKAB picks I would like to summarize, that I had indeed contact with Yabende and LockpickingMX about those picks, with second quite a while after I made that document, thats why LockpickingMX isn’t mentioned in there. Thats indeed a shame and I want to apologize.
Also I think there happened an error in the wording, its probably not meant to be called as „high pin cut“, but rather „high pin count“. That, as mentioned in the comments already, points to locks made by Kaba, Goal, West, just to mention a few. Those locks have pins coming from 4 different directions or even more, its not actually meant to adress any high cut key bittings in general on dimple locks.
About the pick baking, I might have mixed things up at that time and I have to admit, its been a while since. I cant exactly tell what I did, or to be more precisely, with which steel type I did those experiments, but I am not entirely sure anymore if it was in fact 301 or maybe something else. Also, the baking was not done under any scientific testing conditions, it was a wild testing out of things, bare with me, I was young and innocent 🙂
So I am glad I at least called it unofficial advise in that document. So please take it with a grain of salt, test out things, but the picks are already pretty damn good as they come and definitely don’t need any direct modifications.
About bending the prybars, thats also not in fact that easily done as mentioned in the paper since I switched the steel type for those in the meantime.
I hope that clarifies a few things, sorry again for things referred to the document that are updated now or not been complete at that time."
Sincerely,
Moki
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The best Moki pick review to date.
Thank you!
Great review & really pleased to hear you like them ✔️👍
Thanks for watching! I’ll do a follow up review on the 3 dimple lock picks to clarify what they are used for in the near future. It’s hard to sound intelligent 20 minutes into a video review sometimes. And you’re so far in, you can’t stop or turn back lol
Those 3 high pin count lock Picks credited to Yabende were originally designed by LockPickingMx(Pedro). He made a set for Yabende who credits him in his video titled "KABA Quattro (17 pins) Picked and Gutted". Shame LockPickingMx didn't get the credit he derserves in the Moki document.
When that document was made I wasnt aware that those designs where introduced by LockpickingMX. Its really a while out there and to my shame, I missed to update it. I reached out to Yabende because I knew those profiles from him and thought they are his design. However, I reached out to both, Yabende and LockpickingMX to clarify that, I will also make sure to give credit more precisely in the near future. Thanks for the comment.
@@mokislocksport5127 don’t sweat it, what I will do is I will make a video in the future on just those three picks, and I can talk about the history of them and who created them and that way people can have a better view of what those three picks are for.
@tipenengapuhi Thank you for clarifying that. I’m sure I will create a video in the future highlighting just those three picks to give credit where credit is due. Thanks for watching!
@@sandman_locksportIf you search YT for the following you'll see lockpickingMX using one of his HPC Picks. They can also be seen in some of his older videos.
"Lockpicking Kaba ExperT SPP picked&gutted" lockpickingMX
@@mokislocksport5127Don't worry about it mate, I was just providing a little history to the development of those HPC Pick profiles. Not your fault you weren't familiar with it.
I agree with your findings. I have the rakes, and my plan is to skip a couple of lunches each month to add three more Moki picks to my collection until i have them all. When the cases are available again I will be getting at least two of them. One acquires a lot of picks over the years.
I’m the same way. I can eat tuna to save money to buy things that are worth buying! Thanks for watching!
Amazing review, just discovered your channel, you got yourself a new subscriber!
You have a very nice channel! Looked al videos in a row! Can't wait for new content! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you for watching! Greetings from Texas! 🤠
I ordered the explorer set and some single picks from the german lockpick store.
I really like how Moki has 9 different profiles (3 for each pin height and 3 for each pick shape) for hooks. I'm really looking forward to the three flat hooks, as those are my favorites so far.
They make setting a pin so easy, while some of multipick's round and point shapes get lost in the keyway and somehow become more helpful in picking the warding rather than the pins that I'm targeting 😂
I'm glad Pedro is mentioned!
Thanks for watching
Hey Sandman really can’t wait to see your review on the covert instruments American lock/master lock loto Cores with stand review. Anyway, love the Content!!!
It’s one of my favorite toys to play with! If you see it on sale get one!
i do like the look of the flat hooks and diamonds
Buy yourself a set! You deserve it! Thanks for watching!
The yabende are for the HPC locks for picking the top row on the ones that have them. Examples off the top of my head are Kaba star, West 917, Goal V18
Thank you for explaining that to me! I couldn’t figure it out! Thanks for watching!
Great review Sandman! I wish I'd have waited now to drop $250 on a set of Multipicks. I won't be disappointed in them I'm sure but those Moki's are nice and priced right for good product. Thanks!
you cant go wrong with multipick ever, they are always a great addition to any collection. youll be happy you have both someday.
@@sandman_locksport Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I look forward to getting them in a day or two to try out.
Where did you come from? Finally, I have found one of the few lock pickers who make sense to me. Good description of float picking. Because of you, I have ordered a set of Moki lock picks. Thank you for your most informative videos.
Thanks for the compliments and thanks for watching! You’ll love your picks!
These look amazing. What is the length from butt to tip on these? Would they fit in the same roll case.you use for your Jimy Longs?
Excellent review.
Thanks for watching!
@@sandman_locksport You have 16 major Videos up, not counting Shorts, and it’s great production. Signal to Noise Ratio is excellent. By the I mean, there’s virtually no Noise and it’s all Signal. Pretty rare on CZcams in general and Lockpicking in particular. ☕️🐇
@@rogueandvagabondrabbit5837 thanks for the compliments! 🐇
I work with 301 steel or 1.4310 spring steel regularly and the heat treatment or "baking" he did in the document is correct, as long as the heat is consistent you don't even have to do an hour (30min is enough) but 1 hour is what we treat our products in as standard. it loosens the tension like he said and makes it less prone to snapping. after you take them out of the oven or furnace or whatever you used to heat them up let them cool down by air slowly (a table fan is enough) and your good to go
Thank you for the info! I appreciate it.
Great vid man. Very curious how they feel on the hand compared to jimy longs. Looking forward to try them in the future.
They both feel great. I prefer Jimy Longs over everything I have so far but these are a close second or 3rd. Thanks for watching!
Haven't received my moki picks yet but do love my plastic peterson. I have some of the rubber handles... they are among the worst handled picks I own.
If you bake a pick you should get two of the same profile and bake only one of them so you can compare the two. By baking I wonder if they mean hardening and tempering. In the knife world, steel is first hardened under high heat and quick cool down "quenching" and tempering is heating and slow cool down. A knife needs to be hard to hold an edge to last, but too hard and it will snap and not flex. I am no knife maker, but I wonder if that is what this German means by "baking". With CI Ergo tools it is only ergo on one end; maybe with longer tools you can make ergo on both ends? I bought the Ergo bars because of you, however I am more likely to use flats as they pack better in your typical case.
I found out today from Christina Palmer to not bake these, because they will lose their strength. She is a scientist, so I trust her on this.
@@sandman_locksport the heat treatment Moki suggested is the correct way to loosen the tension in 301/1.4310 spring steel. though you don't want to quench it but rather let it cool off by itself or under a fan. with the size and thickness of the picks it should take 20 min tops to cool down
The problem is they are never in stock lol
I just got some Moki picks some came with green handles and some with black handles that seemed super cheap anyone know where to get upgrades ?
The green handles are the older one. The black handles are a little better in my opinion. He will be offering both at some point. But black is all that’s available for now.
Is uklockpickers the only source?
At the time of this recording, yes. Things will change in a couple of months.
Your intro reminds me of back to the future
your not wrong there!