The World’s Fastest Subsonic Airliner: The Convair 990A Coronado

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    Before Concorde defined what it meant to fly fast, there was another airliner that tried to push the speed of air travel. With outside the box engineering, the Convair 990A cruised faster than any airliner before it. The Convair 990A is still the fastest non-supersonic commercial transport to have ever been produced.
    While the Boeing 707 and Douglas DC-8 are recognized as the first American jetliners, Convair had also introduced a jetliner, the 880 around the same time. While Convair’s jet looked similar to its rivals, the company tried to capture a different segment of the market, betting that there was a market niche for a medium ranged, smaller, faster and more luxurious jet. Yet, airlines showed very little interest in the Convair 880.
    But in 1958, Convair had another opportunity to try to establish itself in the jet airliner market. The company would work American Airlines to modify the 880 into an even faster jet, one that could cross the country at least 45 minutes quicker than its Boeing and Douglas rivals. But this proved to be a huge technical challenge, as airliners like the Boeing 707 were already flying near the limit of subsonic speeds. Between subsonic and supersonic is a speed regime called transonic. In this middle ground, drag on an aircraft dramatically increases. So Convair and its partner General Electric would innovate to produce the world’s first turbofan powered airliner and the first airliner with anti-shock bodies integrated into the trailing edges of its wings.
    After numerous development setbacks, Convair engineer’s had built the world’s fastest subsonic airliner. However, by the time it took the skies, Boeing and Douglas were firmly established as leaders in the new jet age. Convair’s airliners, with their little bit of extra speed and luxury, at the cost of practicality, range and efficiency wasn’t what the market wanted. Reportedly, the company lost nearly half a billion dollars building their 880 and 990 jetliners, and they’d never build another one again. #Convair #990 Coronado #Airplanes #NotQuiteSupersonic
    Special thanks to Major Kong for allowing us to draw inspiration (and a couple genius one liners) from his fascinating article:
    ‘Great Might Have Beens - Convair 880’ www.dailykos.com/stories/2015...
    For an authoritative resource on the Convair 990 development, see:
    Kutney, John T. (2007) “The Inside Story of the Convair 990: The Fastest Subsonic Airliner in the World”, 43rd AIAA/ASME/SAE/ASEE Joint Propulsion Conference & Exhibit
    For a comprehensive history of the 880 and 990 development see:
    Proctor, John (1996) “Convair 880 & 990 (Great Airliners Series, Vol. 1)”, World Transport Press
    Special thanks to: Coby Tang, Christian Altenhofen and Razvan Caliman for supporting us on Patreon and helping Mustard grow: / mustardchannel
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  • @LancasterResponding
    @LancasterResponding Před 3 lety +2427

    Selling to airlines
    Convair: we have luxury
    Boeing: We can shove people in here like a can of sardines.

    • @Thompoux
      @Thompoux Před 3 lety +280

      Airlines responding to Boeing: Say no more

    • @BAFSM
      @BAFSM Před 3 lety +107

      @@Thompoux airlines responding to boeing:I'll take your entire stock!

    • @pankajkushwaha2288
      @pankajkushwaha2288 Před 3 lety +25

      Still Boeing wins

    • @BAFSM
      @BAFSM Před 3 lety +57

      @@pankajkushwaha2288 also douglas would be like we do the same but were cheap

    • @robinsattahip6269
      @robinsattahip6269 Před 3 lety +20

      and then kill them while lying to the Government about the safety of our planes.

  • @PaleoGeek
    @PaleoGeek Před 6 lety +4128

    Mustard's videos are some of the most aesthetically pleasing I've ever seen

    • @LNERMallard
      @LNERMallard Před 5 lety +63

      Airplanes are pretty aesthetically pleasing subjects to cover.

    • @undiamond7547
      @undiamond7547 Před 5 lety +36

      yea the type of art is just amazing to look at for an odd reason

    • @user-ex6lp1yi6q
      @user-ex6lp1yi6q Před 5 lety +3

      • CarGuy001 • *mayo*

    • @ore6959
      @ore6959 Před 4 lety +1

      Ranch

    • @dasher3532
      @dasher3532 Před 4 lety +1

      *Relish*

  • @passwordbosco407
    @passwordbosco407 Před 5 lety +2193

    My dad got out of the US Navy after WWII and was hired by Convair in 1950. He retired in 1982. He worked on a lot of great aircraft. He was disappointed only in two types, the Sea Dart and the F-111 Aardvark swing wing. He would boast to us kids that Convair had the fastest planes of all types at a point in the early '60's. For about 6 months anyway :). Thanks for the memories Dad. RIP.....

    • @idavegt1030
      @idavegt1030 Před 5 lety +4

      PasswordBosco o

    • @nutsackmania
      @nutsackmania Před 5 lety +65

      The F-111 was a very successful workhorse for raining freedom down on commies and derka derkas so not sure why he was so disappointed...the aspirations of TFX were always a fantasy, but what came from it was a very successful tactical aircraft

    • @fandangobrandango7864
      @fandangobrandango7864 Před 4 lety +8

      nutsackmania yanks got twatted in nam 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @5thdawg917
      @5thdawg917 Před 4 lety +13

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 4 lety +20

      One of my dad's best friends got killed in the Sea Dart crash in 1954.

  • @veggieboyultimate
    @veggieboyultimate Před 4 lety +2397

    Your 3d modeling really looks like you took videos of these old airplanes.

  • @eltfell
    @eltfell Před 6 lety +3250

    In the 60s, among german aviation enthusiasts circulated a joke: A Lufthansa B707 crosses the Atlantic. The pilots recognise a Swissair C990 a little bit lower, which was also a tad bit slower. Minute after minute they come closer. "A, the Coronado ain't that fast as always said, we are going to overtake You in the next half hour", they radio to the Swissair Coronado. The Swissair crew answers: "Sure, one of our engines failed."

  • @johnmeye
    @johnmeye Před 4 lety +656

    I clearly remember flying on a 990 as a young boy, and seeing those strange shapes on the wings for the first time. it’s fascinating to watch your video and learn the whole backstory as a -now-63-year-old

  • @andrewanane9715
    @andrewanane9715 Před 6 lety +528

    So sad. I love how there were so many aircraft manufacturers in the past. It sucks most are not here no more

    • @davidvasquez08
      @davidvasquez08 Před 3 lety +62

      Thank Boeing for that

    • @spg_eagle
      @spg_eagle Před 3 lety +129

      @@davidvasquez08 oh and literally every aircraft company in Europe merging into Airbus a few years after Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety +30

      @@davidvasquez08 Thank the cost of increasingly complex aircraft and competition for that.

    • @davidvasquez08
      @davidvasquez08 Před 3 lety +2

      Brice Fleckenstein and that too

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety +7

      @Chris Schmelter Batteries don't have the needed power density yet.
      Perhaps in the next 10-20 years they might get into the range to where an airliner can have space for something OTHER THAN batteries.

  • @willardSpirit
    @willardSpirit Před 4 lety +265

    Convair should've seen the future of air travel: not speed and luxurious lounges but cheap fares and zero leg room

    • @bryantlipetri1092
      @bryantlipetri1092 Před 3 lety +32

      In the 60s, among german aviation enthusiasts circulated a joke: A Lufthansa B707 crosses the Atlantic. The pilots recognise a Swissair C990 a little bit lower, which was also a tad bit slower. Minute after minute they come closer. "A, the Coronado ain't that fast as always said, we are going to overtake You in the next half hour", they radio to the Swissair Coronado. The Swissair crew answers: "Sure, one of our engines failed."

    • @igameidoresearchtoo6511
      @igameidoresearchtoo6511 Před 3 lety +5

      @@PanzerVII-df8hg why not?
      ok for real it was some stupid idea but the 50s were different, luxury was priority

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik Před 2 lety +7

      Convair should make a comeback then, all my upcoming flights are business class, with seats that convert to flat beds on the long stints. And how is it possible? Truth is that YOU pay for it, the cheap charlies at zero-legroom-and-microwaved-meal-class willing to pay for misery has made business class cheaper and cheaper. Before Business was insanely expensive and some of the profit was used to subsidise some of the tourist class seats, now tourist class is so profitable that they subsidise business class. Like same-day-made tourist class meals that could cost over $5 per passenger, now with microwaved long shelf-life meals the cost is nearer 0.50 in a Dreamliner, a vegetarian risotto is probably 0.25 or so.

    • @danielwordsworth1843
      @danielwordsworth1843 Před 2 lety +3

      As sad as it is, it's airline department died with honor

    • @spacehawker1337
      @spacehawker1337 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bryantlipetri1092 still funny haha

  • @nicksutton2964
    @nicksutton2964 Před 6 lety +654

    Mustard, thank you for posting this! I was 8 years old and nuts on jet aircraft. We went on a holiday to the Spanish island of Majorca on a Convair 990 and the airline was Spantax. At the time we called this plane the Spantax Coronado and that is the name that has stuck in my memory. My Father was keen to point out how quickly we got to our destination and I was completely awed - sat next to the window staring out at those huge teardrop shapes on the top of the wing. I asked and asked to go to the cockpit and my wish was granted. It really was a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

    • @sillyoldbastard3280
      @sillyoldbastard3280 Před 3 lety +45

      A time when they welcomed kids up to the pointy end. I remember being in the cockpit of 747 for half an hour heading back to Sydney from SF in the early 80s. Wonderful experience as a young teenager.

    • @osvaldomedina2577
      @osvaldomedina2577 Před 3 lety +6

      what a fantastic and beautiful story, congratulations ¡¡¡¡¡

    • @Kevv554
      @Kevv554 Před 3 lety +1

      So fantastic!

    • @briancarno8837
      @briancarno8837 Před 2 lety +6

      I used to see the spantax 990 land at glasgow in the mid '70s along with air spain bright yellow dc8..now all there is are boring easyjet airbuses! Happy days..!

    • @justalpha9138
      @justalpha9138 Před 2 lety

      @@sillyoldbastard3280 They still do it today don't worry. :)

  • @diegoarpino2080
    @diegoarpino2080 Před 5 lety +653

    "Time is the enemy of the privileged few, while cost is the enemy of the masses."
    -Wendover Productions

    • @turkey0165
      @turkey0165 Před 3 lety +7

      Sounds like something a communist would say! 👎

    • @jessekorhonen3406
      @jessekorhonen3406 Před 3 lety +61

      @@turkey0165 what in that quote makes it communist? Its about how the rich are willing to pay more for speed in air travel, while the masses would rather go with cheaper.

    • @amanthatthinks
      @amanthatthinks Před 3 lety +4

      Wendover mustard reallifelore... All same man... 😡

    • @t.w.wright2520
      @t.w.wright2520 Před 3 lety +3

      Time and money is the enemy of the masses.

    • @calska140
      @calska140 Před 3 lety +2

      Time isn't the commonfolk's friend either. "Cost" speaks to a yearning for material wealth, in which case "cost" isn't the enemy. The unreachable satiety of material wealth is the enemy. Hug your loved ones and enjoy the sunlight streaming through the window as it warms your face forget the Rolex that won't trouble you in your last moments.

  • @gtaylor2770
    @gtaylor2770 Před 6 lety +239

    Really good stuff. As it happens, the first airliner I ever flew on was a Convair 990. This was an American Airlines flight from ORD to JFK on December 11, 1964. I was thrilled, of course. The seats were upholstered in cloth, with white antimacassars for the head. The food was excellent. And if we flew faster, it just meant that we got to the holding pattern at JFK a bit sooner. December 11 was a Friday. On our tray tables sat a card with a message for Catholics from the Holy Father. If the plane's galley ran out of the fish course, it told us, the Pope had granted a special dispensation for the Faithful to eat meat. How very thoughtful it was, we decided.

    • @tl8211
      @tl8211 Před 4 lety +6

      That's a really cool story.

    • @blitzwolf17
      @blitzwolf17 Před 3 lety +6

      Only God is holy, not the pope.

    • @TSL73
      @TSL73 Před 2 lety +1

      @@blitzwolf17 lol

    • @maskedavenger2578
      @maskedavenger2578 Před 2 lety +2

      It wasn’t really the Holy Fathers message ,it was the Airline’s Managing director pretending it was ,to flog Catholics flight tickets .

    • @spiff8862
      @spiff8862 Před rokem

      @@maskedavenger2578
      So. Very. T R U E!

  • @spirovarelis9637
    @spirovarelis9637 Před 4 lety +646

    "Mom that plane doesn't fly fast enough", "Shut up, you're being Transonic".

    • @Skybolter
      @Skybolter Před 3 lety +6

      Ja Ja XD.

    • @solapowsj25
      @solapowsj25 Před 3 lety +5

      Ok. 'Transonic'. I knew it. Shuddering at the thought. 😀

    • @intothevoid5074
      @intothevoid5074 Před 3 lety

      Funny that.

    • @opsquash
      @opsquash Před 3 lety

      Don't you just hate it when your mom calls you transonic? 😂

    • @veritasvincit2251
      @veritasvincit2251 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@opsquashif a hedgehog were a superhero?

  • @ThatBoomerDude56
    @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 6 lety +133

    My dad was a flight test engineer on this thing. Our family's best friends in the 1960's & 1970's were the flight test crew on this and other Convair planes.

    • @forksandspoons5435
      @forksandspoons5435 Před 3 lety

      Pure crap

    • @32bit15
      @32bit15 Před 2 lety +3

      @@forksandspoons5435 your mom's 707 has no legroom so be happy with it

  • @n1k1george
    @n1k1george Před 6 lety +97

    I had the opportunity to fly in a TWA convair 880 way back in 1974. I had no idea at the time what a rare treat that was.

    • @reapanomin899
      @reapanomin899 Před 4 lety +1

      For you to say that,how old are you?
      The fact that it was a TWA airliner added rarity points to your flight.

    • @pclayton5063
      @pclayton5063 Před 4 lety +1

      Being in the Air Force at the time I knew catching a Delta Convair 880 flight from Oklahoma City to Baltimore (1973 I think) was a treat. It was a great flight as there was maybe 20 passengers on this late night flight.

  • @erwinschmidt7265
    @erwinschmidt7265 Před 5 lety +70

    Belonged to Detroit based travel club the Nomads & we owned a Convair 990. It was fastest airliner around & on trip to Europe in '70s, we were passing everything....until another liner roared up & passed us like we had forgotten to light the engines. We approved the "Con" as it's 1st 3 lettters, but the "corde" part ruined our day!

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety +8

      Better than being passed by a Tu-144.
      At least you could be reasonably sure the Concord wouldn't die in mid-air.

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Před 2 lety +1

      how could you have seen it if it was 20,000ft higher than you?

    • @derekheeps8012
      @derekheeps8012 Před rokem

      So you never met the VC-10 : held the transatlantic record for 41 years : 5 hrs 1 minute , beaten only by Concorde .

  • @aubreysteele4466
    @aubreysteele4466 Před 2 lety +2

    I never rode in a 990 but I did ride in an 880 circa 1971. A scary day in my life. We were going from Boeing Field near Seattle to an airport near Fort Ord (San Francisco). We waited for at least an hour for the pilots during which the airplane cabin became very hot. After the wait, the captain comes be-bopping down the aisle in shirt sleeves chewing gum. He goes into the cockpit, sits down, and fires up the engines and in just minutes, like we were going to pick up some groceries, we're moving. Down the taxiway, he turned the plane around at the end of the runway with no pause to line things up and for a final check and we were going down the runway and up in a very steep climb for an airliner. Nearing our destination, the pilot cut power and we felt as if in a falling pancake which led to a HARD landing. The thrust reversers(?) and brakes came on max with the plane shuddering like an unbalanced washing machine and we still nearly ran out of runway. I've ridden in airliners well over 500 times, since. I'm old and can't remember any details of them, save three. I remember that one most of all.

  • @PlaneBoy2520
    @PlaneBoy2520 Před 6 lety +304

    One of the few quality over Quantity CZcams channels!

  • @kewkabe
    @kewkabe Před 6 lety +406

    Mach 0.97 cruise speed at FL350 for those wondering. Would have been nice to include that in the description.

    • @romanbaranovichi5375
      @romanbaranovichi5375 Před 5 lety +49

      soaringtractor what are you smoking lol

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 Před 5 lety +12

      @@romanbaranovichi5375 everything

    • @donald_doe
      @donald_doe Před 5 lety +36

      @soaringtractor BUT my Honda Civic can go 1 Mach!!!! The stickers on it made it 1% faster but when the vtec kicked in I would've been able to go Mach 1000!??! But at those sppeeds yes it uses more fuel!!!

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 4 lety +14

      @@donald_doe My 1956 Pontiac Star Chief station wagon uses more fuel even without going Mach 1.

    • @pizza_parker9689
      @pizza_parker9689 Před 4 lety +3

      soaringtractor lol wut?

  • @douglasjackson2361
    @douglasjackson2361 Před 4 lety +16

    I remember flying TWA 880 from Chicago to Columbia, SC, for Army basic training at Ft. Jackson. I was impressed as to how quiet it was in the cabin. During my later aviation career in air cargo, DC8 pilots would refer to the Convairs as 'The DC8 Sport Model'. They all loved it. And we can't forget that Elvis owned an 880 names the 'Lisa Marie'. I remember seeing it parked on the tarmac at Miami. It's now on display at Elvis' Memphis home Graceland.

  • @fabianzimmermann5495
    @fabianzimmermann5495 Před 4 lety +32

    Only 37 CV 990 were ever build and one of the surviving ones is in the Verkehrshaus Luzern in Switzerland. It surely is worth a watch, if you‘re close-by. One of the most fascinating airplanes ever.

  • @toasterbathboi6298
    @toasterbathboi6298 Před 6 lety +1743

    Mustard, your content is truly exceptional. I absolutely love this! Keep it up!

  • @coriscotupi
    @coriscotupi Před 6 lety +258

    As a kid, I flew once in Varig's 990. I was only 6 years old but distinctly remember the "Whitcomb bodies" over the wings. Shortly after, family members would often see a 707 or DC-8 and say "that's the airplane type we flew on that trip" and I'd mentally say, "Nope. It's lacking those funny things over the wings". When I learned about the 990 (circa 1970), I could finally answer them properly, "In that trip, we flew in a Convair 990".

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 6 lety +20

      When I was 6 years old, my dad was flying in this thing as a flight test engineer.
      I still have a model of it on top of a bookcase upstairs.

    • @dc10fomin65
      @dc10fomin65 Před 5 lety +11

      Interesting story about Varig's Coronados, they were originally ordered by then Panair do Brasil. When Panair folded in early 60's Varig took over their routes and some of their aircraft, including the 3 990's ordered. The 3 units flew only a couple of years as Varig standardized on the 707 by the mid 60's.

    • @stephenpersic3331
      @stephenpersic3331 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ThatBoomerDude56 wow you topped everyone with that comment there sir
      That's impressive

    • @aydankhaliq2967
      @aydankhaliq2967 Před 4 lety

      When I was 6 years old, I thought Herobrine was real.

    • @Scazoid
      @Scazoid Před 3 lety

      F u n n y w i n g s

  • @ronsouther
    @ronsouther Před 3 lety +3

    How could anyone “dislike” this video? The information and production quality are outstanding!

  • @Migo1290
    @Migo1290 Před 4 lety +30

    The way Mustard edits videos is like putting Mustard on a Hotdog.

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 4 lety +3

      A proper Hot Dog requires equal portions of Mustard, Ketchup, and Relish.

  • @FutureNow
    @FutureNow Před 6 lety +699

    You are killing the game with these videos. Fantastic.

    • @meevil24
      @meevil24 Před 6 lety +2

      FutureNow Dude, where you at? Are you working on your next video? If so, I'm looking forward to it

    • @FutureNow
      @FutureNow Před 6 lety +1

      Aasim Oh hi ... yes. In fact, I finished writing and recorded the script for the next one over the weekend. It’s much longer than my usual stuff so it likely won’t be out until the end of the month. Thanks for asking!

    • @meevil24
      @meevil24 Před 6 lety +3

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      @marcomarcio950 Před 5 lety

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  • @austindarrenor
    @austindarrenor Před 6 lety +36

    I flew on a Swissair Convair Coronado in 1972, a short flight from London to Geneva. Remember looking out the windows and noticing the big blisters on the wings. Didn't appreciate at the time that I was flying on such a rare airplane.

    • @derekheeps8012
      @derekheeps8012 Před rokem

      My first flight , in 1970 , was on a VC-10 , from Glasgow to Amsterdam - never before or since did I experience such acceleration , and when it rotated : WOW , that was an experience I'll never forget . VC-10 held the transatlantic speed record for subsonic aircraft for 41 years , bettered only by Concorde . Convair ? Never heard of them - don't exist here . Must be a US only thing . But then , we made all the best airliners : Comet - first jetliner , VC-10 fastest , most capable and by far most comfortable , Concorde - nothing comes close .

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor Před rokem

      @@derekheeps8012 Look up Convair B-36, it was quite the airplane. With six pusher-props that dwarfed the B-17 and Lancaster.
      We could go back and forth for hours on who made the best airliners. For me though it's really simple: "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going." 😆

  • @swisscake1591
    @swisscake1591 Před 3 lety +6

    I am happy to say that I have seen the CV990, and been inside of one a long time ago! She was sadly not flying, but I had the privilege to be in one

  • @robyoungquist5803
    @robyoungquist5803 Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you for bringing back fond memories of flying on American’s 990 and Delta’s 880. Taking off in one of them was like taking off in a rocket!

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 lety

      If you want a rocket takeoff, try a cat shot on a COD aircraft.
      I suspect fighter takeoffs are even more so but never had a chance at one of those.

    • @richardmorris7063
      @richardmorris7063 Před rokem

      I flew in Delta 880 Tampa - Chicago & the flight was well less than 2 hrs in 68.

  • @xxXCromaxXxx
    @xxXCromaxXxx Před 6 lety +390

    You should have millions of subs

  • @MichaelRoma91
    @MichaelRoma91 Před 6 lety +23

    I've never heard of the 990 and its significance in the airline industry, so I was quite surprised because I am a plane nerd and thought I knew them all. Way to really dive to the crevices of unknown. You're making very well thought out professional quality content I see. Congrats on the new website!

  • @theshermantanker7043
    @theshermantanker7043 Před 3 lety +158

    Wait a second you're telling me this plane, supposedly the fastest subsonic plane ever built, has a max speed of only 2km\h more than the bloody A380??

  • @106875834
    @106875834 Před 3 lety +2

    I was lucky enough to be a passenger on a 990 from Seattle to Anchorage in 1966. Most comfortable, quiet and smooth ride I have ever had in a jet including the C-141 Statlifter.

  • @paulmccrackney6440
    @paulmccrackney6440 Před 6 lety +57

    I love the animation you put with your video it makes it different from any other videos on CZcams.

  • @robit96
    @robit96 Před 6 lety +92

    His voice is soothing. I could hear it all day.

  • @JamesPetts
    @JamesPetts Před 6 lety +15

    My father flew in one of these once, from Switzerland to London in the 1960s.

  • @NumberedMonk
    @NumberedMonk Před 3 lety +1

    Coming back to watch this again on my lunch break. Still easily one of my favorite channels on CZcams.

  • @JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ

    All hope was not lost for the 990 after the fuel crisis! The Spanish charter airline Spantax flew a few 990s all the way till the late 1980s when they went bankrupt, and a few others were converted into freighters during the mid 70s though details about them are scarce.

    • @tz8785
      @tz8785 Před 4 lety +7

      The Finkenwerder Airlines incident is fairly well documented though, that was a Coronado as well. One Spantax Coronado is still parked at Palma airport.

    • @JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
      @JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ Před 4 lety +4

      @@tz8785 Yep! That, plus 2 on display in Switzerland and the US. There is one more ex APSA 990 owned by Scroggins Aviation that's stored in the Mohave plane yard where the NASA one is. The 880 they used to have was cut up for scrap and only the nose section was saved, so who knows what's gonna happen to this one.

    • @newportbot7709
      @newportbot7709 Před 3 lety +3

      What do you mean? Just use the spanish armada.

    • @potatojuice5124
      @potatojuice5124 Před 3 lety +3

      @J. C. Denton but alas, it’s gone :(

  • @ferrywinklethehondahater
    @ferrywinklethehondahater Před 6 lety +69

    Thank you Mustard. These videos are my favorite.

    • @defaultmesh
      @defaultmesh Před 6 lety +2

      Alex your profile pic screams HMMMMM

  • @SHINR__
    @SHINR__ Před 2 lety +2

    I wish planes still looked like this, it actually looks beautiful.

  • @Robert-xp4ii
    @Robert-xp4ii Před 5 lety +46

    Timing is everything. And I'm pretty sure my ex had a Convair hair drier. 😉

  • @mattwehner
    @mattwehner Před 6 lety +23

    I worked in Mojave last summer and saw one of these every day since it was on static display at the entrance of the air and spaceport. Very cool plane!

  • @grahamrothphotography
    @grahamrothphotography Před 6 lety +11

    Good video!! My flight, a Delta A330 going east over the Pacific, we had a 150MPH tailwind, and were cruising at 650MPH, was insane!

  • @motorsportidagpodcast3661

    I usually don't get impressed but the content and even the commentary voice is as spot on as a human being can ever be, absolutely class

  • @A.A1995
    @A.A1995 Před 4 lety +1

    Your narrating is really something else man, your calm voice is very pleasant to listen to.

  • @Y3227jl
    @Y3227jl Před 6 lety +18

    Very interesting video. I worked for American Airlines 1964 - 1967 at JFK Dispatch and recall their fleet at the time had a number of the 990's, along with 707's, 720's, 727's, L-188's DC-6's and still had DC-3's! When I left American in 1967 I went to work for Modern Ait Transport in Miami and what do you know - they bought an American 990 that I took a rid in. All very fond memories.

  • @johnwatson3948
    @johnwatson3948 Před 6 lety +12

    Thanks - this is great and amazingly good graphics. My dad flew it briefly in his American Airlines career - don’t know if totally accurate but he said it was realized in the real world the “anti-shock bodies” did not help performance and even added drag - but it was too late to delete them from the overall design which also used them as necessary fuel tanks.

  • @JaidenJimenez86
    @JaidenJimenez86 Před 4 lety +53

    British Airways: "Hold my tea"

  • @zoomidy9737
    @zoomidy9737 Před 6 lety +4

    Hey Mustard, I really hope you see this:
    Every time you make a video, not only do you teach me amazing new facts about the futurists of the past and the inventions mankind tested, but you make me ponder: what if these inventions had been successful? What insane futurism would we have today? Planes in particular have made little advances in the market, so your channel makes me think in a new perspective.

    • @MustardChannel
      @MustardChannel  Před 6 lety +2

      Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment! I’m definitely drawn to stories about things that had huge potential but missed the mark somehow. The next video we’re working on is no different :)

  • @fernandoalonso5935
    @fernandoalonso5935 Před 6 lety +37

    Great work Mustard! Here in Spain, we hava a Convair 990, which was owned by Spantax (airline that went bankrupt in the 80s). It has stayed LEPA (Palma de Mallorca) until now. It is so beautiful!
    Looking forward to the next video, and greetings from Spain!

    • @fabianzimmermann5495
      @fabianzimmermann5495 Před 4 lety

      There also is one in Switzerland in the Verkehrshaus Luzern. It‘s really beautiful and it‘s in the colors of Swissair, who flew that plane.

    • @royeb63
      @royeb63 Před 4 lety +1

      I actually flew on that Spantax going on holiday to Mallorca in the early 80s. :O)

    • @bertalucas
      @bertalucas Před 3 lety

      @@royeb63 Me too. And I loved it

  • @Gameflyer001
    @Gameflyer001 Před 6 lety +198

    The 990A may have been the fastest subsonic jet ever made, but it never made an attempt to break the Vickers VC10's record of the fastest subsonic Atlantic crossing between London and New York.

    • @MustardChannel
      @MustardChannel  Před 6 lety +93

      VC-10 is on our list of future videos. It’s simply too beautiful not to cover

    • @GustavG10
      @GustavG10 Před 6 lety +5

      I'll look out for that one.

    • @angusyoungssg
      @angusyoungssg Před 6 lety +2

      Read my mind......

    • @richardshiggins704
      @richardshiggins704 Před 5 lety +2

      Unfortunately both very aesthetically beautiful but equally unsuccessful in terms of sales .

    • @binaway
      @binaway Před 5 lety +2

      Did any airline ever run the 990A LondonNew-York ? I know Swissair ran services to the USA Switzerland. Pilots of the 2 airlines would have a race from a point one side of the Atlantic to a second point on the other side. The 990A usually won depending on passenger load. Due to prevailing winds NY->London is generally faster.

  • @MrBigShot110
    @MrBigShot110 Před 5 lety +2

    Looks like you've gained around 4K subs in two days. Keep it up man, the CZcams algorithms are really showing you love right now 👍🏾

  • @williamhicks6409
    @williamhicks6409 Před rokem +5

    The Convair 990 was such a cool aircraft! I flew on it twice: New York (Idlewild, now JFK) to Dallas on an American 990 in 1962 and Seattle to Anchorage on an Alaska 990A in 1968 (signage was in both English and Portuguese as the plane was originally VARIG Brazil).

    • @georgegage7138
      @georgegage7138 Před rokem

      Alaska had 1 880-no 990s

    • @jamesgass5355
      @jamesgass5355 Před rokem

      @@georgegage7138 Alaska did lease a 990 for s short time in the late 60's, pending arrival of their first B727's.

  • @mentalstampede
    @mentalstampede Před 6 lety +15

    I've always loved the Convair Jets. It's really a shame they've almost all been scrapped. Tho only easy way to see one up close is to visit Elvis' 880 "Lisa Marie" which is on display in Memphis.

  • @jdog11231
    @jdog11231 Před 6 lety +35

    It was like you heard me say "I really wish a new episode of Mustard was out" keep up the great work!

  • @spockboy
    @spockboy Před rokem +1

    Love your channel. 3:22 um...the poster on the right looks like that plane is crashing, and on fire. LOL

  • @dougfinlay7528
    @dougfinlay7528 Před 4 lety +2

    This is a good video about a largely forgotten plane. Also, an example how faster (only a bit) doesn't always play out to be better.

  • @ammarishere1692
    @ammarishere1692 Před 6 lety +207

    Your quality just keeps going up. Just add some more British and Soviet era stuff :D

    • @Bayofthe91st
      @Bayofthe91st Před 6 lety +4

      Could've also adding up other non major coutries like Brazil, India or even perhaps Yugoslavia to the list as well.

    • @mateuslembi7781
      @mateuslembi7781 Před 6 lety

      Bayofthe91st Brazil, yea, please do about my loved country

    • @ravenkliff
      @ravenkliff Před 5 lety +1

      The windows into Soviet tech are always so fascinating to me.
      If you guys know any other good CZcamsrs covering Soviet tech lemme know.

  • @martijn9091
    @martijn9091 Před 6 lety +22

    The best cheer-up of my day is Mustard making a video on, literly, my favorite airliner ever!

    • @MustardChannel
      @MustardChannel  Před 6 lety +4

      Thanks for watching! This video was tough to make...so much to cover. The 880 also has a crazy backstory with Howard Hughes being much to blame for it's failure.

    • @martijn9091
      @martijn9091 Před 6 lety +1

      You really did your research. Can I ask you, what did you study? You have a lot of field-specific knowledge and terms in there, which impressed me very much. It cought my attention because I work in aviation myself.

    • @vieuxbal1253
      @vieuxbal1253 Před 6 lety

      M artijn 👍🏿

  • @johnmallard9548
    @johnmallard9548 Před 3 lety +1

    Read somewhere that the 990 did break the sound barrier during testing but not by enough to make it worthwhile - considering the extra fuel burn.

  • @arnoldfishman1513
    @arnoldfishman1513 Před 6 lety +3

    I had the wonderful opportunity to fly on an AA 990 from SF to Chicago in grammar school It looks sharper and looks more energetic and faster that the others too. Thanks Mustard for doing the video.

  • @slyfer5321
    @slyfer5321 Před 6 lety +61

    5:25 "Convair had just built the world's fastest airliner...atleast on paper" had me dying

  • @bjbeardse
    @bjbeardse Před 6 lety +4

    I got to fly on both American 990, and Delta 880 just before they were WFU as spares in the early-mid 70's. Great airliners!

  • @rippspeck
    @rippspeck Před 6 lety +1

    I've never even been on an aircraft yet this channel is produced so well, I can't stop watching!

  • @Charles-if9bw
    @Charles-if9bw Před 5 lety +1

    I love this channel it's quickly become one of my favorite channels to watch.

  • @Spectre_ski
    @Spectre_ski Před 6 lety +32

    (Feeling sad ;( )
    *sees Mustard new video*
    (Feeling :) )

  • @whawaii
    @whawaii Před 6 lety +5

    As an airliner aficionado, the Convair 990 Story got my attention & interest. What I really want to thank you for, is your informative & entertaining bit on Squarespace. I hadn't considered them before, but now that will be the option I'll be looking at when designing my next website. Keep up the informative pieces. Thank you.

  • @dpohunter
    @dpohunter Před 2 lety +2

    The domestically operated CV-990s, along with other aircraft types, were forced into retirement when new noise regulations took effect at the end of 1984. Up until then, a few 990s were still operating for travel clubs and charter airlines. Great video!

  • @andreferro4618
    @andreferro4618 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm an ex VARIG BRAZILIAN AIRLINES crew member.
    The fact you used a picture of a BOEING 707-320 B of my old and beloved company, made me feel honored!
    Unfortunately, like PAN AMERICAN AIRLINES (they were born by the same time...) VARIG was killed by the same reasons...
    I'm your subscriber and also enjoy very much, your very good work!
    Greetings from BRAZIL!

  • @bandfromtheband9445
    @bandfromtheband9445 Před 6 lety +3

    The 880 and the the 990 were amazing Aircraft!

  • @TheSirRolfe
    @TheSirRolfe Před 6 lety +7

    Even though mustard doesn’t upload often, I always love it when I see a video of his in my notifications! Love the content, can’t wait for more!

  • @brettcastro97
    @brettcastro97 Před 6 lety +1

    Not only an incredibly interesting and well made video, but you included one of the smoothest transitions to an ad ever!

  • @johnsaxton5281
    @johnsaxton5281 Před 2 lety +1

    Such a BEAUTIFUL Airliner

  • @jasoncavitt2043
    @jasoncavitt2043 Před 6 lety +3

    Great job, Mustard. It's worth mentioning that Boeing's original 727s were designed to cruise at Mach 0.92, and one was measured at Mach 0.965 in level flight during testing. The oil crisis prompted a throttle-down in later variants, but as designed, the 727 was right there with the Convair 990 for fastest subsonic airliner ever.

  • @madam757
    @madam757 Před 6 lety +4

    One of the forgotten legendary planes, what an awesome video as well!

  • @bluejesper
    @bluejesper Před 4 lety

    Pure airplane nostalgia at its best. So much great and detailed work has gone into these videos. Kudos to Mustard.

  • @5012810
    @5012810 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you very much for the Convair story!! Greetings from Moscow, Russia! ;-)

  • @CMFL77
    @CMFL77 Před 6 lety +61

    Convair was one of the coolest and most unique companies of the golden age. The Hustler bomber could be its own episode...such a neat plane that suffered much the same fate as the 880/990 - too good at what it did at a great cost. Their Delta fighters were kind of a mess and under performed. The General Dynamics division gave the world the F16 though so that was a great parting gift from a conglomerate the completely and thoroughly represented its era! Loved the episode!

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 6 lety +10

      The F-106 Delta Dagger was never intended to be a fighter. It was an interceptor. The only mission it was designed for was to stop Russia from delivering atomic bombs to the U.S. Also: It out-performed the F-104. By a lot.

    • @Hornet135
      @Hornet135 Před 6 lety +5

      In some ways the F-106 outperformed the F-104; I wouldn't necessarily call it "a lot" though. Conversely, the F-104 also outperformed the F-106 in certain areas.

    • @user-ky6vw5up9m
      @user-ky6vw5up9m Před 5 lety +2

      Concorde designers acknowledged the influence of B-58.

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 Před 5 lety +3

      @@ThatBoomerDude56 F-106 Delta Dart, F-102 Delta Dagger.

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 5 lety +3

      @@Ni999 Yeah. Thanks. I've been getting those reversed for at least 50 years.

  • @wingnutzster
    @wingnutzster Před 6 lety +4

    I looooove your work, it's amazing to see these legendary machines brought back to life and you're doing good work reminding us of these often forgotten beauties. Keep amazing us!

  • @sainandank4045
    @sainandank4045 Před 6 lety +1

    I really appreciate the quality of your content! Love it❤

  • @bergenfamily1314
    @bergenfamily1314 Před 5 lety +4

    I only turn notifications on for the most important of channels. Your's is one of them.

  • @Saimyoshu
    @Saimyoshu Před 6 lety +109

    I freaking love when you post

    • @OumuamuaOumuamua
      @OumuamuaOumuamua Před 6 lety +7

      I don't like the wait.

    • @chrispychickin
      @chrispychickin Před 6 lety +3

      It bothers me far more than it should that Kirino has her hair clip on the wrong side

  • @nightwingtqftcc
    @nightwingtqftcc Před 6 lety +69

    The Convair 990 is so forgotten and unknown. :(

    • @nightwingtqftcc
      @nightwingtqftcc Před 6 lety +4

      bob wach sad I didn’t know the Boeing 720 existed

    • @petrolweeb
      @petrolweeb Před 6 lety +1

      Nightwing/TQFTCC My flag carrier (Garuda Indonesia) once owned it in the 60s

    • @nightwingtqftcc
      @nightwingtqftcc Před 6 lety

      Fajar Adi Burhani Otoluwa very nice to hear. When I went to Mojave air and space port in the front was a Convair 880, good times mate

    • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
      @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 Před 6 lety

      bob wach wasn'tthat the 707-120 before United got them to change the name?

    • @codyjackalope8464
      @codyjackalope8464 Před 6 lety +4

      The transition from speed to sardine packing people is the reason I refuse to fly on those busses in the sky. Drive, train, fly private or fly my own plane. Commercial airliners suck

  • @bubbakushingtonIII
    @bubbakushingtonIII Před 2 lety +1

    Man I wish there was a channel like this that went over semis.

  • @erikhafer1415
    @erikhafer1415 Před 5 lety +2

    that Convair was a good looking Aircraft.

  • @BizzarFish1
    @BizzarFish1 Před 6 lety +5

    Just so you know there is a Conveir 990 at Palma De Mallorca airport its been motheballed since Spantax stopped operating, she is looking pretty sad. (EC-BZO

  • @jeansibelius5721
    @jeansibelius5721 Před 6 lety +8

    IT’S A MUSTARD VIDEO!
    LET US SING! REJOICE! DANCE!

  • @petercallaghan5156
    @petercallaghan5156 Před 6 lety +2

    Oh my god how did I not see this pop up on my feed I'm sooo late😢 Absolutely loved this keep it up Mustard👌👍

  • @askme5805
    @askme5805 Před 5 lety

    Every new Mustard's video is as small Christmas's present. What professionally created vids, graphic, scenario...etc it is incredible. Even big tv channels have less pro videos/tv shows.

  • @1chish
    @1chish Před 6 lety +38

    Interesting you never mentioned the Vickers VC-10 that first flew in 1962. The aircraft that still holds the record for the fastest subsonic crossing of the Atlantic. It was a beautiful aircraft but designed for specific routes that required Short Take Off from high altitude airfields in hot and dusty conditions. The 707 couldn't compete on these routes but like the 880 / 990 the VC-10 sold well but not well enough to dent Boeing's grip and they all ended up in RAF service as air tankers and personnel transports.

    • @ettoreamico1325
      @ettoreamico1325 Před 5 lety +2

      I saw BOAC's VC10's at BOG airport as a teenager.

    • @RavingMadJock
      @RavingMadJock Před 5 lety +3

      During the cold war, used to travel on VC-10 from Kinross - Gutersloh, thee passenger seats faced backwards ~ lovely aircraft.

    • @karlosbricks2413
      @karlosbricks2413 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah, trouble was, Airports/governments realized just how important being able to handle 707s was, so rather than waiting for something like a VC10 that could fly in anyway, they built runway extensions and all the facilities to handle DC-8s and 707s.

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Před 5 lety +2

      The VC-10 record is influenced by tailwinds. Not so much the indicated airspeed.
      Also the VC-10 didn’t sell well. They only sold 17 more planes than the Convair 990!

    • @colinbignall7036
      @colinbignall7036 Před 5 lety +1

      RavingMadJock dropping through the clouds and suddenly remember that we were facing the tail, never got use to that

  • @CybranM
    @CybranM Před 6 lety +10

    Another fantastic video :D

  • @Kardashiangrandere
    @Kardashiangrandere Před 4 lety +1

    mustard is so oddly satisfying

  • @ianinvan
    @ianinvan Před 5 lety

    I'm not sure how you do this. Your graphics are outstanding. 70-year old planes in HD CGI. Unreal. Thanks.

  • @WebWolf89
    @WebWolf89 Před 6 lety +13

    Oh my gosh, this is so beautiful!

  • @jakebclaridge8311
    @jakebclaridge8311 Před 6 lety +4

    I remember subscribing when you had 24k subs. Now, look!

  • @dennisalexanderreilly8624

    Love this channel. The content is always interesting, well researched and beautifully narrated.

  • @ketoking9435
    @ketoking9435 Před 6 lety

    Living this channel,,,I grew up in the 70s hence flew on Trident British Airways,, DC from Switzerland,,,Boeing 747 Wardair to Canada,,,,,,Awesome channel,,,big Thanx for your hard work,,

  • @colonelcactus2462
    @colonelcactus2462 Před 6 lety +3

    You've done it again. Another great video. If only it was possible that you could make these more often. Hope to see more great content in the future.

  • @ryanm.191
    @ryanm.191 Před 3 lety +14

    The modelling is fantastic
    It has that satisfying graining artificial feel like they made the simulations the time of and it’s so nice

  • @bradleyclark4656
    @bradleyclark4656 Před 4 lety +1

    You need to make a airline game

  • @bytaiyominami
    @bytaiyominami Před 3 lety

    3D Design and Motion production is so nice in each video