Seiko 5 Sports GMT Hands on Review - 5KX GMT SSK003 Batman Affordable Automatic GMT 4R34 Movement
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- Seiko 5 Sports GMT Hands on Review - 5KX GMT SSK003 Batman Affordable Automatic GMT 4R34 Movement
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I was sceptical at first but popped into a local dealer who ordered it in for me to look at with no deposit or obligation to buy. I knew within 60 seconds I wasn't leaving the shop without it. Not only is it a great looking thing, but from a collectors point of view, it is a significantly important piece, being Seikos first ever budget automatic GMT. Definitely a future desirable classic.
"The afforable GMT" is the wisest words said so far for this Seiko, great channel to subscibe to
Many affordable caller gmt out there
@@sywon6977 true, but without the bi directional bezel I. I have 3 other low price gmts without these feature. ETA 2893 movement
Great detail on the bracelet center links being solid making it sturdier than the SKX bracelet!
Just ordered this, my first seiko in a very long time. Hope I'm not disappointed.
How is it holding up
I love my SKX and now I want one of these!
I just got my blueberry 5 sports gmt yesterday...love it so much...!
Super montre
I just ordered mine, I do wish it had a screw-down crown but great looking watch. Looking forward to it.
Bought a 001 for $400 out the door and immediately replaced the gaudy bracelet with a Barton's canvas strap. Love it.
would you mind if you share some photo with that strap. thank you!
Whaaa? The jubilee bracelet is the best thing about this watch...
Is that a small dust bunny on top of second hand?
Wearing this GMT daily. Love it!
There seem to be 2 versions of this watch. The guys buying in US markets are getting watches with Made in Japan on them. Those of us who bought overseas didn't get Made in Japan watches as far as I can tell. Mine from Bangkok and the one I saw from Hong Kong aren't marked Made in Japan.
I bought one of these and recieved it seveal days ago. Bought it at Long Island Watch and Marc was fantastic as always. I've made several purchases from him and it's always been a positive experience or better. So the watch......Negatives (how negative is personal preference)....No screw down crown. Hardlex rather than sapphire. No lume on bezel. Stamped clasp. Thats about it. For me the biggest problem is the stamped clasp. It takes an otherwise winner and just adds a cheap feel to it. That said, I'm going to either replace the whole bracelet or at least the clasp. The bracelet itself is really decent. The stamped clasp is the problem for me. Don't get me wrong....it's not that it's horrible. It's actually that the rest of the watch is good enough that it deserves better. Positives.....EVERYTHING else. Had Seiko gone with sapphire, a milled clasp, screw down crown and lume on the bezel and charged $750, they would have sold every single one they made. That said they probably still will. Mine is a keeper.
Out of curiosity, did you ever have a stamped clasp break on you? People complain a lot about that, but for decades not only Seiko but certainly also Rolex had cheap looking stamped clasps, and I've never seen one break at the clasp. If anything happens to the bracelet, it tends to be the spring bar popping out, in my experience.
@@Chrissepisje I've had one fail at the hinge but it's not so much being concerned about failure as it is on a $500 watch I'd like to see it machined. Hell even if they'd up the price a bit. I agree completely with you and Rolex being stamped at one point but given today's mass milling/machining capabilities (compared to back when even companies like Rolex used stamped),it's a nice enough watch I'd like to see it milled.
I absolutely love my watch on the big electro watches got my first seiko And it’s an my first automatic watch Because most of my watches in my collections have been Quartz or solar
In my watch collection I’ve got Maserati, Citizen,Seiko, G Shock, Tommy Hilfiger, and many more great watches in my collection eventually I’m going to get myself a tudor Black by 41 mm black dial on the oyster bracelet and then for my 30th birthday in 5 years potentially hopefully a Rolex OP 36 silver
omg, that dust on the seconds hand 😲
Why is this not a “true” GMT? It tracks at least two time zones with an adjustable 24hr hand, correct? That makes it “true” to my estimates. I think we should stop using the word “true” as a synonym for traveler’s GMT. This Seiko is simply a caller’s GMT.
At the second position of the crown, the hour/minutes hands can not be rotated without the rotation of GMT hand. It is a big mistake for GMT watch. Or at the first position of the crown, hour/minutes hands should be rotated instead of GMT hand like Rolex II.
@@kychoi2653 there is no mistake in a caller GMT. Those movements were designed and engineered with intention. My point is that both configurations are capable of keeping track of at least two time zones and should thusly both be “true.”
@@joshuamelara1495 "caller's GMT" can be easily achieved by the bezel rotation. and so-called "caller's GMT" is only for the watch which has no bezel rotation function, so To the watch with bezel rotation function, "caller's GMT" hands rotations setting is very very idiot and foolish. Hands rotations should be "traveler's GMT" setting, if they have bezel rotation function.
@@kychoi2653 your last comment is hard to follow, but it seems like you still believe there is a mistake in a caller GMT. I ask you to ponder this: when Seiko set out to make this new movement, do you think their intention was to make a traveler GMT and failed and somehow that mistake ended up as a caller? Or do you think it is more likely that they set out to manufacture this movement with intention and succeeded? I’m not arguing that one is easier to manufacture than the other, I’m simply saying that both are GMT movements capable of virtually the same functions and therefore the term “true GMT” that gets thrown around is nonsensical. They are both “true” and one is not “truer” than the other.
How about a watch with two hands and a rotating 24-hour bezel? Is that a true GMT?
For people who care about the inner workings of the watch and not just its functionality, these distinctions matter.
TRIBUS $500 automatic GMT because of you 👍
And that is Swiss !
looks great. that's definitely the color i prefer. maybe next time they'll do a pouge version. that would look killer.
The Seiko SSK001, black face, is listed at MSRP of $475.
Never buy at this ridiculous price.
If you are smart you will do a good research and be able to buy it for just $250 with free delivery and no tax.
I did and of course bought it.....brand new.
Much more I waiting from Seiko 7548-7000 / 7C43-7010 reissue with 7C46 and sapphire
Did anybody else notice the bit of fluff on the second hand?
Yes.... I mention it in my follow up review
Yes there is. You have a good eyes. If I was him, I would return this Seiko right away for exchange or refund cause I’m picky and that fluff is really bother me every time I look at the dial.
Just received mine in the post today. love it! just wish is tick was a little louder.
Big fan of these as daily wear watches. I bought both the orange and blue dial variants. Bit of splash of color for the summer and spring months, I’m a sucker for a gmt movement, and with the prices of Rolexs going up I’m wearing mine less unfortunately while saving up for a Rolex gmt Batman. Once I get a couple more bier end watches in I’ll go back to daily wearing a sub
How is it with water? Can you shower or jump in a pool and be good with the push down crown?
@@AirborneAnt yep definitely confident taking it into a pool. I believe it’s rated for 200 feet deep. I normally don’t shower or swim with my watches but this one I have jumped in the pool a few times while wearing it and no issues
@@jaydubs6354 alright cool!! Thanks man!!
I understand it is an office gmt, rather than a traveler’s.
Right. I believe he misspoke at the beginning of the video, but he then said it correctly at 3'55" mark that it is an office GMT, which is not very useful for travelers.
I’ll be adding this watch to my watch collection eventually
As for the misalignment, it only affects cheap, entry-level Seikos. These Seiko 5s are what Swatch is for Omega. Get a Seiko Prospex and I assure you there won’t be any misalignment.
I have owned at least three prospex divers that had misaligned chapter rings. And I also featured a Seiko LX spring drive which was misaligned. And the LX is probably the most expensive Seiko made
I've brought 2 of these and they wwere both miss aligned
I replaced the movement In my skx for the nh36 much better with hack and wind. The date wheel need s to be swaped over.
I find the amount of particles in those macro shots disappointing.
Hardlex is always a deal breaker for me, that being said I can't wait for them to start selling the movement, the micro brands and Asian watch market will go nuts. Thanks for the review Chris!
I think they already have, Venezianico emailed me with a launch of their new GMT with this movement.
That is unfortunate for this model. Good news is aftermarket will likely have sapphire replacements at the ready in no time
slaped in skx sapphire for 30 usd - job done
@@nextrealit2597 nice
Yea, a homage with AM 4R34 is always a great deal. But i purchase this particular model and the hardlex isn't really bother me much, the deal is GMT or Sapphire, take it or leave it only.
There’s a speck of dust on the seconds hand :/
Oh yea there is lol I'm not happy about it... I will be making a video soon 🤠
At 2:29, Is there a tiny speck of dust on the seconds hand? Watch just as it crosses the red GMT arrow, between the tip of the arrow & the tip of the hand. I'm watching on a 55" TV and it's obvious from across the room. I think QC missed something😁
For $250 more you can get an Steinhart ocean one titanium GMT with ceramic bezel, titanium case/bracelet, Swiss movement, sapphire crystal and ar coating..wearing my hulk seiko 5 and that’s enough seiko for me..lol
These are already available discounted, the gap will only get bigger to the Steiny.
I got this watch a few months ago ..i played $330 out the door
Nice review, good photography. I get that this is a GMT and not a dive watch but the 100 m water resistance and the non-screwdown crown render this particular watch's water resistance useless.
Many reviews fail to mention 100m of water resistance DOES NOT mean your watch can be used for swimming - in a pool, in a river or at the beach. Even 200m does NOT guarantee this.
It can and might be able to withstand a five-minute swim and you may get away with it several times - but only a 200m ISO certified watch, such as a Seiko PADI or Citizen Promaster dive watch, guarantees true water resistance while swimming and diving.
Hamilton and Certina produce watches with 300m of water resistance, stated on both the dial and the caseback but they are not ISO certified and prone to compromise - if you notice a tiny water droplet on the inside of the dial do not place the watch in the sun or under a light - take it directly to a watch repair shop who will remove the sapphire crystal to deal with the humidity in the watch and make sure it dries thoroughly.
You said it yourself, this is not a dive watch. Plenty of options from Orient/Seiko/Citizen for diving. That said, 100WR from a powerhouse such as Seiko is more than enough for swimming. The push-pull crown on this one is pretty sturdy, takes a lot of effort to pull it out.
Seiko usually are conservative with their numbers, they perform much better. Lots of people swim with their SNK809 which has 30m WR.
Anyone have links to the sapphire crystal that can be used to replace the hardlex?
Let me know if you find that. I would be willing to exchange that too
Clasp from the SPB071 or the SBDC039 might fit. That's provided both bracelet to clasp ends are normal and not the screwy design on the one end.
If it is the screwy end on the one side; that final link can be removed and replaced with the same end link like on the other side.
Hmm 🤔. Since I have spare Jubi bracelets; think I'm gonna put the original back on my 009 & make the appropriate mod.
I Wish they would be doing a skx suite or a 5 quartz
Ive brought 2 of these and both chapeter rings were out
How classic Seiko SKX design become inspired by Rolex? That 8s something new 🤪
Date cyclops is only Rolex inspiration I can see. Godsend to us with older eyes.
BTW, Seiko Alpinist back in late 80s- 90s had a Cyclops as well.
Date cyclops, jubilee bracelet, and bi colored bezel blue black all inspired by Rolex...
Seiko qc still apparently sucks. Can see a piece of dust/lint clearly attached to the second hand of the watch at 1:55. It sucks when a company takes customers for granted.
I presume when this gets serviced these issues can be fixed, obviously just them being lazy towards customers but this can be sorted after yes?
Just bought the blue dial'd one
Here in Asia it's about $320.
Nice looking watch, would be perfect if it had a Pepsi bezel.
Not a cyclops guy, but this looks great.
It's not a traveller's GMT (video time 1.00), it's an office GMT. Still a nice watch for the price.
Thinking twice if Im getting this watch but I have an 8 inches wrist, imagine it looks small for me. Hope they will make at least 44mm or 45mm
Would make sense to try out the bezel on camera.
Would you prefer this watch or the Baltic aquascathe?
Thank you for the review. Nice looking watch.
Wait a minute how comes your one sais made in Japan at the bottom of number 6 and mine don't is the a difference
I don't understand how it's a new movement being a 4r34? It seems to me that they took the 4r35 and then used the day wheel to drive the GMT instead of a day wheel it's the only way I can think of that on that particular series of movements that you would get a 24-hour range please explain
I Just bought mine, but does anyone knows why mine doesn't say "made in Japan" (apart from the obvious reason)
Let's call it the Unicorn, rather than the Bleubeery/Batman ?
The blue color is really really growing on me... In person the blue didn't really appeal as blue. If you don't get the blue right I can really look tacky or not much of your wardrobe. Where as black is look more grey.. much grey than what you see on computer screen. Please please check it out yourself before you decide color and purchase online!
Is there no problem if I touch the gmt function in the dead zone?
What would make it a true GMT?
I have the orange one and I absolutely love it. I’m looking to get the Samurai next
The caliber 4R34 is adjusted at the factory to keep the time between +45 / -35 seconds per day, this is an insult and that's the main issue with below $2,000 watches. The 6R35 is slightly better than this one, so I'll keep my G-Shocks and other quartz watches for the EDC "economic" solution (below $2,000) and save for a high-end COSC/META wristwatch.
From my experience, I've never had one worse than +15 a day on the 4R36s. But I agree,30 or 45 seconds a day would be too much for me to keep a watch. I think they claim those numbers just to be safe. In reality I've never heard someone say that their watches were at those numbers.
But I totally disagree when you say that's the main issue under 2k. I have two watches with the Powermatic 80, one in a PRX, another on a Certina DS Action Diver 38mm and one is at +2, the other at -4. You don't need no spend 2k to get an accurate movement at all.
An insult? What do you need that accuracy for? Timing detonations?
People adjust their vostok movements to within 5 seconds a day, it shouldn't be an issue with a timegrapher and some patience
it's an unadjusted mass produced movement. that's why the specified accuracy tolerance is wide.
Virtually everyone I’ve heard who’ve addressed the accuracy of this movement reports significantly less error than the published figures. I’ve consistently heard people reporting less than 5 seconds per day. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Not a fan of the watch or the movement TBH. I know a lot of people want to see this in microbrand watches, I don't, it's way too thick. I'm trying to think of what the thinnest watch I've seen with an NH35 is and I think its around 12mm, this is thicker still so expect whatever it's in to be at least 13mm thick. Maybe it will inspire Miyota to make a GMT movement, they seem to be able to do it thinner and better in pretty much every respect. I am glad it exists, just not for me.
Did it have protective film on the crystal?
What do you mean by travelers GMT?
Seems to be a lot of dust under the crystal especially that piece on the seconds hand 🫢
I didn't notice that until I finished editing... And I thought I had a QC free watch lol I will make another video soon and call that out
Thank you for the nice video.
2:34 whats on the second hand looks like dust or somthing
It's insanely depressing to hear "a perfectly alligned seiko is a unicorn.". Like wtf seiko. I have a gen 1 orange monster and an snz white face field watch with perfect allignment and i had no idea that was rare. I want to buy some more watches but it seems like buying a seiko is just a crap shoot whether you'll get one with even such a basic fit quality as to be properly alligned. THere's no real excuse for this for any watch over 50 dollars.
It’s so nice
Ssk003 or Srpd51k2?
My authorized dealer didn't even know these were coming out I started bugging him second week of June and he was on vacation so I checked back with him on July 1st and he called his distributor then happily called me back and said he'd ordered a bunch of them I asked for the '01 but then I realized I already have two skx 007s that are black on black so I believe I'm going to go with the 03 the blueberry. It seems like a lot of people are calling the blue one a blueberry instead of a Batman or Batgirl so keeping with that theme I would like to say that the
SSK-001= BlackBerry
SSK-003 = Blueberry
SSK-005 = Winter Berry
I went online and the only orange Berry that I could find was this Winterberry which is right in the same color range and fits with the nickname scheme that I'm suggesting anyway I'm sure that a bunch of people are going to tear my head off and say that that's a terrible idea if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
Positive thoughts on nicknames?
Other's opinions for a list of Nicknames? Personally psycho to me has always been their own thing and I like the idea of them having their own nicknames for these watches
Please stop with this.
@@SinnMaster like I said if you don't have anything nice to say you shouldn't say anything at all and if you don't like what other people are saying then don't read move on my opinion is frankly none of your business best wishes enjoy the watch whether you get a blueberry or Blackberry or a Winterberry you don't have control of what nicknames people come up with other people enjoy it apparently you don't so if someone should stop with this it's you
I will say both of you are right 😂
Dust or debris on edge of second hand is annoying me lol. Love the look but way overpriced for the spec .
Yep all I can see under macro. Typical Seiko QC.
Nice series. Too small sadly.
At the second position of the crown, the hour/minutes hands can not be rotated without the rotation of GMT hand. It is a big mistake for GMT watch. Or at the first position of the crown, hour/minutes hands should be rotated instead of GMT hand like Rolex II.
at the start of the video you made a mistake by saying it's not an office gmt
WHAT THIS HAIR TYPE THING AT THE SECOND HAND AT THE END?
It's killing my ocd, but that's seiko quality control for you
Is caratco an authorized dealer? I’ve been searching for links to buy this but wasn’t sure if the dust speck on this one’s hand meant the website wasn’t legit? Not sure if people make seiko counterfeits but wanted to be sure
This is a watch I want to love, but the 5 branding scares me off. I had an older (maybe 5-10 year old model) 5, and it was pretty much garbage. Just too cheap to work well and feel good. I would love to hear about the action and case quality changes since the older 5s (when they killed the SK line and expanded the 5).
You will be hard pressed to find a better looking more premium sport watch for the price I got min for 372 and it looks like a watch 4x the price
c'mon, milled buckle and sapphire crystal gmt for $475?? You're dreaming.
Not really … easy to find around the same price
It's a Blueberry and not Batman 😅
How is it with water? Can you shower or jump in a pool and be good with the push down crown?
It claims 100 meters, so yes.
I noticed yours is a J1 not K1. I wonder if it's luck of the draw or is that a JDM?
I see your chapter ring is also miss aligned 😭 goddam it Seiko
There is dust on the second hand. It's unnerving...
Yeah I don't understand why Seiko doesn't start doing nicer finishes at the $500 price point I bought a steel dive unbranded Willard homage and the same week I purchased a grenade king turtle the steel dive was I think $89 the turtle was 500 bucks and I would say the steel dive had an overall nicer finish overall the steel dive had a steel bracelet not a rubber strap they both had sapphire crystal they both are a 200 M dive watch with screw down crown I found the bezel click to be far superior on the steel dive the brushing was equally as good on both it really came down to three things the bracelet was way nicer on the steel dive the steel dive had applied indices on the dial the turtle had printed indices and the bezel was just far nicer ceramic bezel on both but the click is just that much better on the steel dive it has me actually looking into getting other homages by Steel dive I have the tuna homage and it's neck and neck with my Seiko except for the Shroud on the steel dive the opening for the Shroud should be rotated around the dial in a different spot and it's a little Sharp otherwise fantastic in every way double Dome Sapphire amazing click great bracelet honestly almost on par with the Seiko I guess I just need to buy a turtle homage by them and compare them side by side unbranded of course
Seiko is expecting sub 500 models (5 sports, presage) as entry level for people new to the brand. The main focus is to lure buyers attention to its higher range/premium models.
Because the watch is not worth $500.00.. This watch is not an exclusive watch. This will drop to $395.00 to $350.00 by the end of the year. A SKX withou a GMT hand was about $200.00.
Uh, a gmt hand adds a bunch of complexity to the movement. What other automatic gmt's are out there in this price range?
@@nunyabusiness9056 not necessarily since the movement originally had a day feature next to the date, they simply converted it to an hour hand. You are correct though there really isnt any competition at this price range other than chinese brands
Jubilee is solid steel though. SKX was hollow.
I already bought mine for $350 new.
Please show me an automatic watch with a GMT complication that competes with it
You contradict yourself. At the start you say it is a traveller's GMT. Later you say it is an office GMT.
340ft
How much Uk £ ?
This reviewers Keep saying affordable boy it is still expensive.
Affordable gmt!? For 400$, a Vostok gmt 20ATM costs around 100$
LOL enjoy your ruski shit watch
Let's be honest - it's a fashion watch masquerading as a tool watch. Et tu, Seiko?
Cheap version of SNR033
Yeah...5k cheaper!
It's too bad really. They have the resources to make watches that people actually want, but instead keep grinding out the same quality issue pieces with movements they make no effort to cut down in size or make more accurate...they just 'skin suit' their quality issues in old tech and put all their effort into a watch line nobody can really afford, and if they can afford then they go for Swiss watches. There is no elevation from their innovations. Their Presage line, supposed to be a mid-tier...still as thick as a brick with a questionably designed case shape that has an identity issue...which makes it over-priced. They've abandoned their designs which were promising and still have a lot of fans, in order to make tiered down 'have this instead' knock offs. Seiko doesn't deserve your money unti they get their head on straight. Save...get an Omega, Tudor etc.
Lume shot
Inspired by Rolex? 🤣
Be careful Jubilee is Rolex trademarked. You can get a strike on this video and your channel.
too big