3 reasons why the radical left hates Jordan Peterson
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- From being labeled as a racist, sexist, to bigoted, Jordan Peterson has been called every name in the book. But if you listen to him, he seems none of those labels. In fact, he seems like a reasonable, intelligent, and measured man. And you can bet that the radical left REALLY hates that!
In this video, I dive into some of the reasons that the Radical Left hates Jordan Peterson.
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czcams.com/video/oNHuEdy6cZM/video.html this is not part 2 right? I'm curious with your take on No. 2 rise of narcissism. . . if you'll do No. 1 too, that'd be great, wherever inspiration takes you.
Did not know how bad it was with those movements, protests, and bias interviews. To my knowledge, JP is educating people with sound knowledge, did not know he'd been going through a lot. Got interested with you mentioning Tribalism, I did not see it that way, wow. 🤔 Great work hardworking person. 😊 Thank you.
He misrepresents what Marxism is. We don't do idpol.
Do you have evidence to support your claim here? The clips are of liberals, not radical leftists arguing with Peterson, and the hit pieces written on him have been in liberal, IE center left outlets like The Atlantic, New Yorker, Globe and Mail, and my liberal feminists. Meanwhile he has many popular hateful rants against radical leftists (marxists, libertarian socialists, etc) on video, but they only ever invited him on their shows or to debate them, he backed out or refused except in one case where he debated in a friendly exchange, radical leftist Slavoj Zizek.
I found out about JP because people around me kept talking about how he is a horrible sexist bigot and only appeals to misogynist men. So, in order to find out if that was true, I started watching every video I could possibly find of him. It's been two years now and I have yet to find a single clip of him saying anything bigoted.
True, everything he says is common sense. Bill Maher (not suspicious of any right wing tendencies) literally stated that. JP is hard to disagree with unless you twist his words.
I think I date my disassociation from the leftwing tribe dates from the Cathy Newman interview.
Yes. Just try to grope a woman who is wearing red-lipstick and displaying her sexual arousal or question why a feminine Chaos Dragon is in the workplace and see what happens.
It's kind of funny and ingenious if you think about it. People who hate JP are advertising his own cause.
Yep and even when they quote him they typically do so out of context. They will look at the time he asked why women wear makeup in the workplace and suggest it's a sexist question and yet if you listen to the interview he is genuinely trying to have a back to back discussion with the host as to the reason people dress the way they do when around the opposite sex. The greatest flaw JP has is assuming the individual's he is talking to are good faith and honest individuals.
I am a father and grandfather.
One of my grandsons came to me and said..."Dad, Listen to this man. I think you will love him."
So I did. And now we are both following him.
I'm 76+ and my grandson is 19yrs old.
Both highly respecting Jordan Peterson.
The same can be said for the "Reach Out: I'll be There" cover by Jaded Hearts Club. Both my father and 4 year-old son love that song!
You can be proud of your grandson ! Love and support buddy !
WOKE ACTIVISTS NEVER NEVER STOP,
"Don't compare yourself with other people; compare yourself with who you were yesterday." - Jordan Peterson
Yes!
@@starchy101 That is beautiful and so true.
- the red skull
Senior quote
2021 Jargon: “Practice Mindfulness.”
Yes sir.
As a woman, I have never found Jordan to be offensive. I really think people do not spend enough time to critically think about the concepts he shares. They are quick to jump to categorize his beliefs and derive a conclusion that is completely inaccurate! He has helped me, a woman, so much in dealing with the crisis that life threw at me, by reminding me that I am not a victim, I am a survivor and an individual, who is worth just as much as anybody else.
He's just a right wing grifter who believes WAY too much in the Bible.
He's just a right wing grifter who believes WAY too much in the Bible.
Just one clarification, if you don't mind. Many people don't think, let alone critically.
Hang tough and keep plugging along.
Jordan Peterson is the correction for the products of overindulgent, overprotective parenting.
Unfortunately that's the state of the world these days it's disgusting
Child care and education is a state right. Or so I've been told.
Dr Jordan Peterson is... too late. Unfortunately.
I love the guy - but he is the equivalent of an aspirin for terminal cancer.
@@yammoyammamoto8323 Socialism is terminal cancer for a society.
@@yammoyammamoto8323 only for the current generation, which is a lost cause. However if he connects to even a small group who sort themselves out, and they then raise good children with a grounding in virtues, then it's an improvement.
An overemphasis of blaming society means that there is no room to look within... Well said
This is SO HUGE. I have been in these spaces and, sure, blame society bc a lot of the times it deserves it.
But. Then. What.
We have to use our INDIVIDUAL strengths to actualize the change. If we merely demand it, how are we fighting it or changing it, or even protecting ourselves in the midst of it?
Well, it depends on what the problem is. Often there's a systemic problem and internalizing isn't possible or helps no-one. Changing (or trying to change) the system helps also those who may be unable to fight for their own cause because of age, mental health, abuse, poverty etc.
@@marsukarhu9477 I agree fully. I think where I’ve seen the praxis get muddled is when the people demand the system be changed but fail to act because the very principles that were created to call the system out (not arguing that the system may be screwed up) suddenly come into conflict with implementing an action against the system because then those calling for change would have to violate the principles. I’ve never figured out how to solve this issue. Also, the Nirvana fallacy is particularly pernicious.
@@marsukarhu9477 There very well may be a systemic problem, but that's probably why the OP wrote "overemphasis". If you're overemphasizing, you're emphasizing too much -- beyond the point of practicality. There may be a problem, but it's blown out of proportion, or it's being attacked to deflect attention away from more important problems. Like attacking one side for being "oppressive" while openly using all of the same underhanded tactics, biases, hate, and even violence that you accuse them of. Or, say, like attacking everybody who disagrees with you as a beta-male, androgynous snowflake (and the like) because you oppose how they are labelling people as groups instead of individuals, when you're just as ready to dismiss them collectively by the group you just lumped them in with.
There may be something bad happening, but if we're unwilling to deal with ourselves critically, we're being the worst kind of hypocrites. I say we, because both sides of every issue demonstrate some level of this. Using a smaller crime to defend a larger crime is monstrous. It creates bigger and worse problems while often failing to solve the smaller ones. It punishes growth and applauds blindness and immaturity. It's horribly destructive, so I'm not only very pleased the Peterson isn't having any of it, but very pleased that people are actually listening. I hope more and more do.
there IS A LOT society is to blame for... but a person also has to take responsibility for their own decisions/actions in their life
I might not agree with everything he says, but to silence and de platform someone because they hold views you find offensive says more about you than it does about him. I think his core message is helpful to allot of people and is sound. Great video!
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Wouldn't that be the free market in action?
Would you apply that same standard when churches kick our members for supporting lgbt rights?
De platform?? He has millions of followers, he's not de-platformed.
I think your looking at this wrong. Yes, Jordan Peterson has some good opinions. He serves as a father figure for a lot of young boys and try’s to teach them about discipline and the value of hard work. That’s all great.
What is not great are his bigoted and hateful opinions. He lied about Canada’s bill C-16 and said they would lock you up if you call a trans person the wrong pronoun. That is false and breeds anti trans hate. He believes in forced monogamy for the sake of giving men access to women. He believes women who wear makeup are asking to be physically harassed and it is their fault for wearing makeup and temping men. He recently began to say climate change and the science used to determine it are wrong and that climate change might not be so bad.
With all of this in mind, do you believe he should still have a platform? I 100% agree with your sentiment that we as a society shouldn’t de-platform people we disagree with. But if someone is insinuating hateful rhetoric like ‘women who wear makeup are asking for it’, then that goes beyond a simple disagreement. If we as a society allow people of power and influence to indoctrinate the minds of people with hateful opinions like the ones of Jordan Peterson, then we will have a lot more hateful and bigoted people. Not to mention, most of the things the left ‘disagrees’ with him on are things he is blatantly wrong or lying about.
"Growth only happens when you look past what you think you know" Damn good stuff
You gotta admire this man for the amount of patience and composure he’s able to maintain amongst a group of aggressive radicals 👌🏼
Yeah, I’ve seen some of the videos of him being screamed at by hysterical sjw’s & damn- that takes an EXTREME amount of patience & grit to not pop off while being berated! I don’t know how well I would fare- u gotta admire someone like that!
Kudos to him. I myself have very little patience when facing the willfully ignorant.
@Baggage Claim : "...the status of Victim gives people the right to anger and retribution..." AND to set up their GoFundMe;(
"We'll see who cancels who woke moralists" very calm indeed 🤣🤣🤣
Gods bless your soul woman
Thank you so much, Jennifer!
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Part 2 needs to happen. This man is on the vanguard of constructing a positive future for everyone. Anyone who rides with him will be on the right side of history.
What about the left side
Laughably ridiculous near insanity. You are falling for a cult.
@@Akkordeondirigent Agreed, that did sound pretty cultish.
@@cellbiologyshorts9105 Thank you! I really hope that it begins to be seen that Peterson isn't by far the intellectual he pretends to be, and that his ideas aren't nearly as good, not to mention original, that his followers think they are.
@@Akkordeondirigent Indeed. I have found that none of the useful stuff he says is in any way original. He also seems like a deeply traumatised man. I kind of feel sorry for him when he goes snarling for half an hour before ending up in tears.
I have so much respect for Brittany never having seen nor heard of her before this video, because unlike the majority of the people she surrounded herself with, she could listen to the arguments of someone who challenges her ideals and be flexible and non-rigid enough to see the truth and logic of those arguments, and then _furthermore_ publicly admit that she thinks she was wrong before and announcing that the people she associated with are wrong, along with gaining perspective on how her former movement categorizes people, she has an understanding that that group mobs people and uses their numbers to have a rhetorical upper hand in labeling and ostracizing people.
The one thing I 100% disagree with in this video:
It was NOT "so long". I think I speak for others when I say I'd happily watch 20+ minute videos from you.
:)
@@BaggageClaim PREACH
I also regularly find them much too short
Agreed. Excellently presented, thoughtful and insightful. I always wish they were longer!
@@BaggageClaim Part 2 welcome.
In my college class we were assigned several jordan peterson vids. He definitely is a man with common sense in a world where it is lacking
I'm glad to hear it! More people need to learn about him
Wow I'm shocked a university still has integrity and will show his work 😮
Mad respect for whoever you had for your teacher
Common sense….that was what I first liked about him. Been listening to him for over 3 years now, and the smarter he gets!
@Gordon Eisenach I am from Europe. They showed us some Hitler speeches with context in school, one can learn from them, how much time and energy he invested in "composing" them to influence "the masses", what he really succeded to do. For our standards he sounds hysterical and over the top, then he was entertaining and "daring". I never understood how people could be tricked into national socialism, today I think I have a better understanding how they did it. They did the same as they do now, framing narrative, not reporting the whole situation, fighting adverse opinion. The reasoning is "people are so dumb" we need to make sure, that they do the right thing. I shudder to think what comes next.
11:05 "Growth only happens when you look beyond what you think you know". That is a great quote on a well presented video. Great job!
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I remember quoting Jordan Peterson on a public forum comment section and someone told me he was not talked about in polite conversation...I replied that was a Leftist mentality that I don't subscribe to, which seems to also involve controlling other people's right to express their opinion and I am politically in the middle. Peterson would rather he told us an uncomfortable truth, instead of comforting us with lies because, in the long run, it is better for us. Also, tribalism has always led to societal issues throughout history, as it erodes individual identity, and anyone outside of the group identity is dehumanised - the Nazi party being one of the most obvious examples of this in the past 100 years.
Wow!
So Peterson isn’t spoken of in polite conversation, and yet Epstein’s name is splattered everywhere. IdEaS aRe DaNgErOuS
@@imhannahs the reason for Epstein was that no one actually believed he committed suicide.
@@Rinesmyth yes, I just meant more along the lines of what is “polite conversation” when we so openly talk about pedophiles these days, like Josh Duggar and Epstein. “Polite conversation” seems like an old fashioned term in this context, because what has Peterson actually said to make him so taboo
@@imhannahs - The thing that makes JP taboo is that he speaks truth. The left doesn’t want to hear the truth since it undermines their entire worldview. He’s the little boy who shouts the emperor has no clothes.
"they are not seeking to solve a problem, they are seeking to use a problem to gain power." Thankyou. That is the words I've been looking for for years to put around the idea in my head that explains it all PERFECTLY.
They just want to win. Left and Right are as bad as each other, in that area.
Rainbow be like
Sorta like Palpatine.
Thanks for this video, I am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and he is one of the few public figures that is attempting to open society's eyes in the present decline of common sense and unity. Many far left claim to fight for unity but it has only spawned resentment and division. I would love to see a part 2.
Gabbage-Claim: "Racist-and-Transphobic-and-Bigot, its all just Buzzwods! Hes real nice!"
/ Peterson, joining Hategroup Daily-Wire,
the people getting an E-ection from the Overturn of Roe v Wae /
Gabbage-Claim: Uhm, ignore that. And while youre at it, ignore that no Science-CZcamsr
in Existence respects him and Millions of LGBT-Voices -and -CZcamsrs call him anti-lgbt-as-can-be.
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Never heard a better explanation about this man and why exactly they hate him. Spot on.
I love him! He is my inspiration for going to graduate school and becoming a therapist!
That's wonderful! I've often thought about it too!
You should totally consider it! You’re so smart! If you’re interested in Depth psychology (like his lectures) i recommended you checking out Pacifica Graduate Institute 😃
We need therapists who are not on the far left. Too many therapists are from the ideological left, and that makes it hard for non-lefties to find care. I wish you the best on your journey.
@@deleted01 💯💯💯 it is definitely hostile territory when you aren’t woke😅 I get a lot of glares😂 thank you!
@@samanthagupta I agree that the world needs more people with your open attitude going in to therapy now more than ever. And I admire your courage given the hostility around you. I wish you every possible success.
He speaks out against the huge population that wants all the rights and no responsibility. His book helped me take control of my life and get out of a toxic relationship. His enemies know nothing about him, my friend who hates him hasn't even watched an interview he just tells me he's transphobic and sexist 🤣
Good on you for breaking out of a toxic relationship. Hope you reflect well on what took you to it, and do better next time.
@@jellyfishi_ JP doesn't even come across as transphobic. I haven't heard anything that is about hatred or fear of trans people, or even advocating violence against them.
Bot.
@@Krindig ?
@@yesand5536 he has fucking said that trans women aren’t women, and he rose to fame by misinterpreting a Canadian bill which MERELY added gender identity as something against which one cannot discriminate. Not ONCE did it mention gender, but on he went with his fucking bigotry, anyway. Peterson is a piece of shit who alternates between being a crypto-fascist and a waffling grifter whose banal, useless advice is somehow seen as clever, presumably due to his (irrelevant) qualifications in psychology, and tendency to use formal language, often to such an extent that he just waffles on and on. As for his lectures, he has referred to the 3rd reich as the 4th - a common neo nazi reference to the continuation of the original nazism which ended in 1945 - , asking “why would you assume hitler wanted to win?”, acting as if Jewish people and other “undesirables” weren’t forced to work, etc. He has also claimed that nazi Germany was somehow an atheistic state, even though atheists were killed for not believing in any deity or deities. So no, his lectures aren’t any better. He also thinks Jews are over represented in the media - a common nazi conspiracy - and this is why they perform better in IQ tests, even though 1. IQ is garbage as a measure and 2. It was created to justify racism, by racists. He has praised Milo Yiannopoulos (even after his pro-pedophilia comments came out, though even before then, he was still far-right cunt, so there aren’t any excuses either way), appeared on Stefan Molyneux’s show - a known far right deplorable piece of shit, race scientist, etc. who has been banned from all mainstream platforms due to the aforementioned - AND has agreed with him on certain matters such as IQ differences between the races - a favourite talking point of the far-right to justify things like racial segregation. He has also been on Lauren Southern’s show, likewise a far right POS who, for example, attempted to stop refugee ships from entering Europe. He has appeared on Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder’s shows multiple times, both of which having had Gavin McInnes - leader of the far-right paramilitary group The Proud Boys - on their shows. He also promotes the far-right, extremely antisemitic “cultural Marxism” conspiracy theory on numerous occasions, and believes that women wear makeup purely for sexual-purposes - an entirely false statement - and as such, they should not complain if they are sexually harassed while wearing make up. The only “good” he is doing is promoting far-right and conservative ideas - everyone who disagrees with a conservative is a Marxist, certain college courses should be banned, women are manipulative beings whose only purpose is to engage in sexual acts and to be a maid, etc. This is good for turning normies into misogynistic fascists, and nothing else. Even when he isn’t being a fascist piece of shit, his self-help advice is extremely banal grifting purely intended to make himself wealthier; and to radicalise more people because he often interpolated basic advice with conservative ideas and such. All of the evidence points to Peterson’s being on the far-right - this is simply how it is. I - and all of the others - who rightfully condemn him as a member of the far-right have looked at all of the evidence against him and have thus quite easily determined that he is, in fact, a member of the far-right. I will include some helpful links to relevant CZcams videos which expand on my points.
Link one: “The very true story of Jordan Peterson” - Thought Slime
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Link two: “Subverting the narrative I Holocaust denial and the lost cause myth” - Knowing Better
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Peterson is a piece of shit who alternates between being a crypto-fascist and a waffling grifter whose banal, useless advice is somehow seen as clever, presumably due to his (irrelevant) qualifications in psychology, and tendency to use formal language, often to such an extent that he just waffles on and on. As for his lectures, he has referred to the 3rd reich as the 4th - a common neo nazi reference to the continuation of the original nazism which ended in 1945 - , asking “why would you assume hitler wanted to win?”, acting as if Jewish people and other “undesirables” weren’t forced to work, etc. He has also claimed that nazi Germany was somehow an atheistic state, even though atheists were killed for not believing in any deity or deities. So no, his lectures aren’t any better. He also thinks Jews are over represented in the media - a common nazi conspiracy - and this is why they perform better in IQ tests, even though 1. IQ is garbage as a measure and 2. It was created to justify racism, by racists. He has praised Milo Yiannopoulos (even after his pro-pedophilia comments came out, though even before then, he was still far-right cunt, so there aren’t any excuses either way), appeared on Stefan Molyneux’s show - a known far right deplorable piece of shit, race scientist, etc. who has been banned from all mainstream platforms due to the aforementioned - AND has agreed with him on certain matters such as IQ differences between the races - a favourite talking point of the far-right to justify things like racial segregation. He has also been on Lauren Southern’s show, likewise a far right POS who, for example, attempted to stop refugee ships from entering Europe. He has appeared on Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder’s shows multiple times, both of which having had Gavin McInnes - leader of the far-right paramilitary group The Proud Boys - on their shows. He also promotes the far-right, extremely antisemitic “cultural Marxism” conspiracy theory on numerous occasions, and believes that women wear makeup purely for sexual-purposes - an entirely false statement - and as such, they should not complain if they are sexually harassed while wearing make up. The only “good” he is doing is promoting far-right and conservative ideas - everyone who disagrees with a conservative is a Marxist, certain college courses should be banned, women are manipulative beings whose only purpose is to engage in sexual acts and to be a maid, etc. This is good for turning normies into misogynistic fascists, and nothing else. Even when he isn’t being a fascist piece of shit, his self-help advice is extremely banal grifting purely intended to make himself wealthier; and to radicalise more people because he often interpolated basic advice with conservative ideas and such. All of the evidence points to Peterson’s being on the far-right - this is simply how it is. I - and all of the others - who rightfully condemn him as a member of the far-right have looked at all of the evidence against him and have thus quite easily determined that he is, in fact, a member of the far-right. I will include some helpful links to relevant CZcams videos which expand on my points.
Link one: “The very true story of Jordan Peterson” - Thought Slime
czcams.com/video/9A2UC1YQxy4/video.html
Link two: “Subverting the narrative I Holocaust denial and the lost cause myth” - Knowing Better
czcams.com/video/G9vehIbDkNY/video.html
Nice explanaition on what is happening. Having watched 100+ hours of his lectures, podcasts and even went to see him live you hit the nail on the head. Personal responsibility is an empowering ugly truth. Cool video!
Peterson has been such a breath of fresh air.
I was miserable, heavily overweight, feeling trapped in a dead-end job and felt like I was stuck in life and it seemed like it would never get better before I found him and his work(which I found because of the endless vitriol that has been unfairly and incessantly heaped on him). I'm down a hundred pounds and am putting myself through college now, and I feel like I'm on a road to being someone I could be happy to be, in no small part because of him.
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I asked in a leftist Facebook group why they were always attacking Dr Peterson's image using for example his abuse of prescription drugs instead of attacking or refuting his arguements,and they responded by digging up an old post of mine to ridicule me and i told them that they were already proving my point for me 🤣🤣🤣
Note: Edited
Yup they're bullies
He didn't abuse medication either. He got a horrible reaction called akathesia when his doctor increased his dose. He explained that very clearly but the left are determined to misunderstand what he went through
@@uyoebyik and they continue spewing this drug narrative every damn time just to discredit him
It's annoying really
That their response was to use an old post you made is telling, I think at best that's lazy and at worst it's deceptive. If they can't refute an argument without resorting to such tactics is them admitting that they have nothing to counter your argument. it's ad hominem logical fallacy, I might not like a person but if I can't counter their argument then I don't resort to attacking them, it's beneath contempt to do so. I am so done with people trying to manipulate me. It is relentless.
Perhaps they saw the hypocrisy of a man abusing drugs while moralising to others about having to have perfectly spotless lives before criticising the world?
I'm a dumbass and whenever I've heard people talking about 'Jordan Peterson' I thought they meant that guy from Wolf of Wallstreet. This makes a lot more sense...
Hahahaha love it!
You made me realize I have probably been doing the same up until recently! 😂
Haha that’s Jordan Belford
love the videos sis! women like you restore my faith in the future of the human race.
Mr Peterson is a mental Mozart. His ability to see things from a different viewpoint is incredible. But I'm most impressed by his ability to stop, take a moment and come back with the perfect words in response. Most of us think of the correct response 5 minutes after the other party left the room. Which is why most people use E-Mail instead of a phone call. Having a long pregnant pause on the phone can expose a shortcoming. This man has a very clear and careful mind, and knows all the mental tricks to make opponents stumble. Always worth watching.
Tks for your report.
I'm slightly left of center and the radical left makes me want to scream in frustration. Then I listen to folks like Jordan Peterson and I'm like, "ah. There are still reasonable people in the world". I don't agree with everything he says, but that's ok. I prefer to listen to people when they're being reasonable
Heyy just a question, what are some of the things you don’t agree with JP on?
@@your.favorite.detective25 his perspective on God. I am an atheist. Also, I believe he is too individualistic for my liking.
@@Nimish204 hey I do agree that he’s individualistic however he talks about it in his book that if you want to have an impact on others you need to be able to say that your actually happy within yourself and your own home. So his idea is one similar to a stoic idea where you the bees help the hive so if you become a better individual you will be able to help others in the world. Just a thought but yeah, hope you have a good day!
I'm not religious, but I say Amen to that.
@@benc9567 huh, after spending 18 years working in the middle East I can say that he is mostly correct. Although this is a broad spectrum thing Islam is not big on free thinking. In some of the countries I've worked in you being an atheist would get you stoned to death. Now, you cannot prove whether God exists or not, it comes down to what you believe. There is a vast difference between belief in a creator and religion. Religion for the most part is a man made concept designed to control people. Personally I find it disgusting. Who is the bigger fool? The people who teach blind obedience or the ones who follow?
Wow, the idea of tribalism is seriously relevant at this time!!! Peterson is brilliant!! Topic #2 sounds like it would be a wealth of interesting ideas to discuss
He is!
@@BaggageClaim He's one of the few people left in our country who makes me proud to be Canadian 🇨🇦
I'm late to the party but I discovered your channel last week and here's another gem. In a world of men who are struggling to find purpose, this man is solid in his approach by inserting that proper responsibilities are the key. (Highly recommend any man feeling that way listen to some of his work). Adding in the realization section of someone else realizing he's not the monster people paint him to be is powerful. A lot of people would find the same thing if they listened to him instead of the foolish individuals who try to make him appear ever more the monster. Well done Baggage Claim!
Part 2 please!!! Your videos are so well thought out and put together. I appreciate them very much!
I absolutely love Jordan Peterson. He's logical, calm, researches and intelligent. He is absolutely inspirational.
Tel me more about how logical his all meat diet is.
@@kyrtuck it works for him so it’s quite logical. It may not work for you though
Yep. People like Rowling and Petersen are more complex and reasonable than the typical redpill dickhead like Andrew Tate and so on, and are so much more open to discussion, and people still hate them for some reason. If you have an issue at least communicate why instead of jumping on the hate train
Yes please, a Part 2. I don’t see your thoughts as left or right, just a refreshing dose of critical thinking and common sense; a breath of fresh air. Thank you 🙏 I’ve seen Jordan speak in Sydney, it was heartfelt and moving. If you listen to him I cannot understand how someone can hear bigotry. I don’t have to pick a side. My views are subject to nuance and challenge and I’m not fitting in a box with a label. As he says so eloquently, I’m an individual. I think, I grow, I make mistakes, I change. It’s how we acquire wisdom over time with any luck and good judgement. His humility humbles me, we can all learn from that regardless of our labels.
If you want critical thinking, Peterson is not the man to speak to.
@@danielbroome5690 exactly lmfao. He’s just one of many conservative grifters.
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@@danielbroome5690 so who should we speak to
0:38 oh believe me when i say i disagree with a lot of his statements (i loathe a lot of his views with a passion!) and i came to this video thinking i'd be "offended" and sad since i found your toxic feminism video absolutely amazing but this one line really tells me that you REALLY do research before doing a video.
Even though i disagree with him in certain places, i do not think he should get cancelled. He seems like a very intelligent man with many wise (and unwise!) opinions who's helping a lot of people and i would love to meet him one day. It's so satisfying to finally see a creator who doesn't categorise ALL critics of JP as "hard left". Thank you for this! This really means a lot ❤️
Hey! I've been watching your videos for about 2 hours now, and I love your analysis! Def need a part 2 on this!!! Also, would love for you to cover the three topics mentioned :)
I have a lot of admiration for Jordan Peterson. I found his videos while researching Carl Jung for a paper 5 years ago. I think his books and videos helped many people including myself and members of my family. Great video, I sense a lot of empathy and compassion in your narration. ❤
Thank you!
I hope this changes your opinion of JBP. 🙏
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"This video is getting very long, i'll do a part 2"
Me: *Laughs in 2 hour long lectures from Mister Peterson*
Hahaha
@@BaggageClaim this was a great video, and you have a great way of compressing a lot of information into a small package. I'd happily have watched double this length. Thank you for what you do!
Dang! Super insightful please do all three videos!
I love all your videos!thank you so much for all the time and effort that you put into all your amazing videos 🙏🥂❤️
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Pencil me in for No. 2, but I'd also like a No. 3 with fries.
I have been a long-time fan of Prof. Peterson and am glad he has recovered from his "illness." I am interested to watch your take on the rise of Narcissism and why Prof. Peterson is the antidote. For that is a bold claim.
Indeed! Guess I'll have to deliver :)
I agree that Jordan Peterson being an antidote to narcissism is a bold claim. I find it hard to believe that a person who went out of his way to overlook Trump’s narcissism is the antidote to narcissism.
BTW, I’m a fan of a lot of what Jordan Peterson has to say. He’s right on many topics, outside of Trump. Nonetheless, JP failed to warn the Right to be careful when listening to Trump - as Donald J. Trump is an intraspecies predator - willing to lie, cheat, and manipulate - in order to only temporarily satisfy Mr. Trump’s ego and narcissism.
11:31 …I’m very much looking forward to an upcoming video about this. Thank you for making this type of videos. I really enjoy them.
@@BaggageClaim, thank you for making this video. It was fantastic. I look forward to your new videos.
Did you happen to find any clips where Jordan Peterson is outright warning people about Trump’s narcissistic behavior? Perhaps there’s videos where Dr. Peterson warned that people should not trust everything that Donald Trump proclaims?
11:31 … From what I’ve seen, when it comes to Donald Trump’s narcissistic behavior, Jordan Peterson applied more narcissistic supply, not enough narcissistic antidote.
Thank you for your valuable time.
@@platoscavealum902 why would this be his responsibility? Who has he ever warned anyone about before??
All rights come with responsibility. Recently, I've been noticing that everyone wants all the rights, but none of the responsibility.
Responsibility is the grunt-work and the rights you enjoy are the reward of the work you've done.
Gabbage-Claim: "Racist-and-Transphobic-and-Bigot, its all just Buzzwods! Hes real nice!"
/ Peterson, joining Hategroup Daily-Wire,
the people getting an E-ection from the Overturn of Roe v Wae /
Gabbage-Claim: Uhm, ignore that. And while youre at it, ignore that no Science-CZcamsr
in Existence respects him and Millions of LGBT-Voices -and -CZcamsrs call him anti-lgbt-as-can-be.
@@nenmaster5218 1: JP may not be a nice guy, but that doesn't mean he's wrong when he says that individualism should be respected. People are more than just their race/gender/sexuality and whether you like him as a person or not doesn't make that philosophy invaluable.
2: If you show me just one unedited video where JP actually says anything even remotely bigoted towards anyone and maybe create something of substance rather than type snide impressions of Baggage Claim, I might take you seriously.
@@autisticscreechling4950 Yeah, i dont say people shouldnt be respected, so that's that.
Instead of argueing agsint a Strawman Version of NenMaster5, can you maybe finish 'A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson' by "Some More News" and then come back to me?
Glad Drinker had you on one of his live streams. CZcams clearly isn't recommending your videos to me... which is strange (maybe not, because "the algorithm" doesn't really work), because your content is definitely up my alley. Anyway, looking forward to the three topics you mentioned. Till then, I'll check the backlog.
Yay thank you!
Can we have a part two please!!! I can't get enough
The constant misunderstanding and misrepresentation of JP’s ideas is such a strange symptom of a growing public inability to engage with nuanced conversation. The Cathy Newman interview is infuriating - she had an agenda from the outset and treated him unfairly and with a total lack of objectivity. She should be ashamed of herself.
They hate him because he advocates the idea that biology has some role in the construction of the individual, which contradicts the post-modern belief that everything is socially constructed, including the individual. Woke critical theorists need to hold to the premise that everything that defines the individual (beliefs, biases, perceptions of truth, etc.) is defined by the social class (race, sex, "gender", etc.) one pertains to. This allows them to push the narrative that all individuals in the same group think the same way, and in certain social classes that have more power the members of these classes are conditioned into subconsciously perpetuating systems that keep those classes in power and keep other groups oppressed. For example, they would argue, all men are conditioned by society into perpetuating misogynist systems of employment that deny women high-paying jobs and that's why there is a pay gap. Their solution is to engineer society so that traditionally "oppressed" groups are given more power and opportunities. But when Peterson notes that there are biological differences between men and women that may determine job preference and thus salary, and when he pushes for the sanctity of the individual over the group, he is standing in the way of their agenda. Hence, why they hate him.
@Kere Brilliant post. Thank you for a great explanation.
Awesome. Just like JP himself would have said.
Yep.
Yep, these rads need some experience.
Maybe I need to read up on this more, and I would like to hear your opinion on it, but I've always been of the impression that the "biological" argument is essentially what you described as the "socially constructed" argument, in terms of a group being the same and thinking alike (and pushing that narrative). Biological psychology in general makes me feel like people can be excused from questionable behaviour or determined to fit a behaviour because of some loose relation to what cavemen used to do (nurturing, sexual drive, reproduction, alfa/beta mentality). Beyond that, putting people into boxes based on biology might encourage that sort of "boys will be boys" attitude that drives a social wedge between how people are treated. I don't disagree with the premise of biology impacting behaviour, but the message that sends in terms of how people are "supposed" to behave is what I have a problem with. Ideas like sex meaning reproduction, women being more empathetic and nurturing, "boys don't cry" and men have to be physically strong and providers, differing degrees of anger, pain, emotional spectrum and intelligence having something to do with sex/gender, all this can be bad news for any women, men, lgbtq+ persons that don't neatly fit in a category. My worry therefore is pushing the "biology" argument (without the 100 asterisks needed) to laypeople looking for a simple world view of behaviour, may cause a lot of prejudice, stereotypes and discrimination. Thoughts?
i'm all for a part 2! I'm really looking forward to it.
If you're still thinking of doing a part 2 to this, please do. These video essays of yours are great!
Thank you all for watching! If you want to get to know Jordan Peterson and his work a little more here are some resources -
* Jordan Peterson's CZcams channel - @nPetersonVideos/featured
-- Jordan Peterson's Books --
* Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life - @t
* 12 Rules for Life - @t
* Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief - @t
Enjoy!
Great video...
Make all three videos you mentioned at the end, if you want.
I'll watch them all.👍
Thank you. I love JP but have not read as much as I would have liked, so I'll happìly watch anything you ďo on him.
How disappointing you made a video about a sexist conman!
All three videos 😊
Awsm as always Didi
Do make the Video on all three Topic✌️
I love how Peterson recognizing bullshit and always tells it like it is.
Has Jordan Peterson ever recognized Trump’s narcissism, propensity for lying and manipulation?
Jordan Peterson, 'mostly' tells it like it is.
@@platoscavealum902 he's not in the business of diagnosing well known people. Get over Trump. He was the president of the US for 4 years whether you like it or not. He's not anymore. You're stuck in the past
@@uyoebyik, due to Jordan Peterson’s professional training, he knows better than most that narcissists (and individuals with other 'dark triad' set of traits) are inherently proficient liars and manipulators. Why did Jordan Peterson not warn people not to listen to everything that Donald Trump proclaims? The fact that Donald Trump was a president for 4 years does not negate the fact that he’s a narcissist.
1) I was responding to a comment which implied that Jordan Peterson is able recognize bullshit and "always” tell it like it is.
2) I provided reasons for why that statement is incorrect.
3) You comment did not dispute any facts that I presented.
I look forward to your well thought out, intelligent reply.
@@platoscavealum902 who do you think you are? My teacher? You come across as highly narcissistic yourself
@@uyoebyik, you are attacking the straw man arguments that you’ve manufactured - not facts that I present.
Very interested in you doing a part 2. This video was a good analysis of his work and, some good references to interviews and clips that he's done.
Recently stumbled onto your channel through The Last Airbender videos. I'm also an India emigrant (in Australia) and Iroh is my favourite character too! Like, ever!
JP has been my favourite public figure since his public life debut, so I would love to see all 3 topics explored!
I remember saying to a friend how much I like Jordan Peterson. She said “well no one can be all bad. You must see the tiny slither of goodness in him.Now I see that he’s been misrepresented so much that unless you actually take the time to read a book or listen to him speak you could be so easily mislead. Great video BTW
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The woke people seem to always forgot this stuff
I’ve had people unsubscribe to me because I read his books aloud online, and talked about them as I went. People have called me all sorts of names that are totally inapplicable to who I am and what my worldview is. When you ask how they developed their opinion, you quickly find out they are just repeating mis-characterising untruths they’ve heard their ‘flock leaders’ bleat. He gets used by both sides for their own political point-scoring. People are so attached to their opinions, but they didn’t even arrive at those opinions through their own efforts. They just adopt them from other people doing the same. Watching overly-privileged people try to roll back so much of what was fought for, in order to live their future as safe, homogenised babies being fed by corporate conformity is horrifying. Humanity first, politics never.
Another great Video
I’m so sick of the victim culture.
I have been paid higher then my male counterparts in my last 2 jobs. This was because I negotiated my salary based on my skills and work ethic.
X Gen from Australia
Yes, that was the same with me in my time. It was my father, who told me, that I must negotiate for my salary and my contract and how to do it. It was also my father, who told me never to sign a script, which I have not read, never sign a contract on the spot, if one is a correct employer one will let you take the contract home to read and decide unhurriedly, if they hurry you to sign something just do not do it and do not work for them.
I found out once, that I earned more than my male colleage, who had an academic title, nevertheless was not as skilled as I have been. I am sure I achieved that purely, because of my father's advice.
@@KimChi-iy7jd sounds like he’s a good man and you’re done him proud
@@suzypie11 He is already gone, much sooner than I thought. I appreciate him teaching me good, useful stuff. I miss him. I like good men, we need them as much as we need good women. The women against men agenda (and vice versa) is so unecessary.
Gladly in everyday life I meet more down to earth people, who just try to tackle life. 🙂
Some issues of nowadays social media sound like kindergarden enviroment to me.
@@KimChi-iy7jd I have lost my father too. I share how you feel.
Yes well said. I’m amazes at how society is changing and it does worry me. Nice to meet someone who feels similar. 😘
@@suzypie11 I am so glad too. 🙏🏼 I wish you the best.
It is always good to hear, that there are other people with similar situations and similar life experience s. All in all everybody needs to overcome the same things and the ones, who have an extra hard fate, those we all should help. I think that is one reason why people inicially think communism or marxism is such a good idea, people would like to help other people. It just turned out so tragic every time they tried to do it in reality.
On a small level ~250 people can achieve wonderful things if they share property together, we had a sect 40 years ago, who achieved to buy islands in the caribean, after the sect guru was put in prison for supression the other men in the sect and molesting and raping the women and children in the sect, the property was sold by the court. Every sect member got a substancial sum, they could live from the income the money made them (!). Of course the whole ordeal was so horrible that nobody would want the money with the experience.
I just think that traditional "villages" 250-300 people could work together extremely successfully if they put their minds to it and if they do not follow strange cultish structures. The same is reported from commune living in kibbuz, they are really successful moneywise and work wise. On a bigger level communes fail. Corruption seems to be part of the human condition.
That is my personal take on it. Democracy is really not ideal (and they knew it 200 years ago, lots of interesting literature about it) still today the only way I know to shuffle through the challenges.
I do not want dictatorship, do not want oligarchy, do not want "royal monarchy" and unfortunately commune system has failed over and over.
Sorry for this long comment 😅
Hi I just discovered your channel via your stream with Critical Drinker (going on as I'm typing) and I love it already. It's complete, yet straight to the point. I'm gonna binge watch the rest.
Édit : actually I already watched some of your content :o Ytb recommandations doing their job :o
Great video
Love the listen to all three of your suggestions for future vids!
Lady, your analysis is awesome. Slow claps..
Thank you!!
i'm just glad he exist.
Love the channel. Stumbled across it the other day while looking up another channel I follow Baggage Unclaimed" haha, great work, love the content
Very good. Excellent. Part 2 is a must.
The reason for the difference in pay is not sexism, it's capitalism. Capitalists, because women usually leave job for kids for some time, don't want to pay them the same amount as men who usually stay on the job. This, of course is not only reason, there are other factors as well, we live in complex world.
Also because, if we have to choose between a high-paying job working on high-voltage electrical lines or a lower-paying job closer to the ground, women are statistically more likely to say, "No thank you, I choose life."
@@eyesofthecervino3366 Yes that is one of the reasons. Research on big 5 model showed that women are higher in conscientiousness, both in caution and diligence. I think part of that is biology because (most) women are built to protect the offspring. You can also see it in driving. We drive with more safely.
I clicked reallll fast. I'm a silent subscriber but I genuinely enjoy your videos and appreciate your work!
Glad to hear from you!
So glad I found your channel! I just love your videos and can't wait to have time to watch more!
I'm a big Jordan Peterson fan. This is very well done. I encourage everyone to read his book 12 rules for Life if you haven't all ready. I did, and I agree with everything in it. Thank you.
I really really hope this changes your opinion of JBP. 🙏
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Peterson is a straight-up intellectual hero. His enemies come up with new alternate realities of him whenever they know he makes people see and realize how flawed their thought processes are. You can't make this up.
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Yes make a part 2. Great job
Will do! Thanks!
If you ever discern his stature, notice how he's always calm and collected. That suggests to me he is an individual with a lot of internal monologue, trying to understand things at a deeper level before formulating arguments with or against it.
I'm actually a left wing guy and I respect him
I'm pretty much in the middle, at least what's considered the "middle" here in Germany (and pretty much all of Europe), and _apart from his work in actual psychology,_ I lost every last bit of respect for him.
@@Wolf-ln1ml I'm sure he's devastated.
@@underlord3761 Of course he isn't. Arrogance doesn't allow all that much acceptance of criticism.
@@Wolf-ln1ml cope and seethe harder
@@underlord3761 Heh, thanks for making me chuckle at your utterly wrong presumptions... Idiot.
I’m actually really excited about no3, Marxism, especially when it ties in with the situation in Cuba and the BLM movement, if you can, or should, go that far. On another note, it’s chilling, to me at least, to realize we have the same interest in both topics of Joe Rogan-Jordan Peterson-Bret Weinstein and Meghan Markle-victimhood-narcissistic personality.
What?
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Interested! Thank you for a different perspective
OH MY GOSH I just realized you were the lady who collaborated with the critical drinker!! I’ve been subbed for a while but just made the connection 😂 great video!!
My sister introduced me to him. Now I can't get enough. I share his ideas with my students at university. My fav is stand up straight with your shoulders back! I'm a lobster 🦞
Honestly, I end up watching so many of your videos cuz of how whole-hearted, yet informative they are. You are an incredibly fun and interesting person to watch, and I 100% disagree with you saying "this video is already getting too long". Keep at it, girl! You're awesome!
A 12 minute video isn't that informative. Go watch HeyItsVadim's much longer video on Jordan Peterson, it is much more informative.
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Perfectly summed, that was a very good listen 👍
Great video, well constructed and truthful.
Wholly underrated video
Edit: Definitely looking forward to part 2 and 3 and as many as you make!
That Cathy Newman interview still annoys me to this day. What a weird woman.
Seriously!!
So what you're saying is...
She and KGM drive me nuts they're both so woke. Jon Snow isn't any better tbh but he's more personable
So you're saying women are weird?
You've convinced me to learn more about Jordan Peterson. Thanks! I was super impressed by the lady named Brittany who mentioned critical thinking.
I'm glad you said radical left and not just the left. There are plenty of us lefties that fully support Peterson and his views (most of them anyway)
Honestly, all three topics are really interesting and your way of reporting and creating content is top notch. Please do all three If you have the time to do so :)
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Whenever I hear and think about the idea of tribalism it so much reminds me of the ideology of the Nazi's, it's cynical. If it weren't so bitter I would laugh, when people touch backs with what they claim to fight against. Political ideology is very much a circle.
Horseshoe Theory.
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*Googles furiously.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 Be careful mentioning it in leftist spaces, though! They consider it a dog-whistle that you are alt-right, as I’ve learned.
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I've just barely been introduced to the concept, and I already have a song about doughnuts stuck in my head.
What have you gotten me into?!?
@@eyesofthecervino3366 Instead of “going down the rabbit hole,” now I’m thinking “going down he donut hole” should be the new code word. XDDDD
I'm really interested in hearing what you have to say on #1, 2, and 3! Especially #3 because I keep trying to figure it out and haven't yet unless people just like the idea of free stuff.
I'm interested in your thoughts on everything. This channel is brilliant, articulate, and I share your work often. Thank you for doing what you do.
I really hope this changes your opinion of JBP. 🙏
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Yessss absolutely need more videos on him, I've seen some of his arguments on tiktok but I truly discovered him by watching your video. And tbh I couldn't agree more with his ideas
I'm so happy to hear that!
Omg! Really?! Go listen to maps of meaning right now, it’s a really tough read but it’s amazing. He’s been my internet dad for years now , I’m so sorry it took you this long to find him but I’m glad you’re here !!
@@jennthecatmom i will, thank you very much
I can't stand how people have treated this wonderful person the past few years. When I watch his more recent interviews I just want to cry, because I feel his pain and disappointment in humanity. I'm glad he is feeling better lately.
Topic #2 sounds interesting.
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Hmm, this is the second video of yours that I have watched. Liked but can't share, subbed to see more.. Thank you.
These videos are amazing. Please go ahead and do any/all of the topics at the end of the video and... part 2... pls 😊
I absolutely adore your insight, and agree with you 💯 %
The perspective of maternal & paternal love was very insightful. As a mother I could totally relate & agree with your points regarding the contrasting, yet duel aspects of parental loves poured into my own adult children. I look forward to all three suggested topics. Love your analyses!!!
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Number 3 ,please and thank you!
Thank you for this! I appreciate how you objectively approach your subject material. Jordan Peterson has been a fav of mine for exactly that reason. I've subbed to your channel and look forward to more content. It's folks like you and Russell Brand who share your thoughts and give me hope that my kids will move forward to a brighter future.
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Your analysis of why the left hates JP and all dissenting voices is spot on. The other reason is that their arguments do not make sense and disintegrate when challenged so they have to stifle debate. I have just subscribed and look forward to hearing more. I would just say you don't need the annoying background music. Your voice is very easy to listen to! 👏👏👏
She did not say the left hates JP but radical and extremist lefties. I think it is really important to distinguish here a bit further. I am a progressive leftie, but still strongly agree with most of what JP is saying.
This is by far the best explanation I have come across on the internet! Believe me, I have watched a lot (most of them are just mediocre videos) but you have put it so well. Really impressed!
I've just discovered your chanel and I cannot wait for more videos on these topics. I think you definitely should do all 3.
Just found your channel today. Has there ever been the continuations to this video? I’m interested in what you have to say and how you say it. The 3 topics you list at the end are all very very intriguing
yes please do a part 2! thank you baggage claim! you’re the best!
You know I'm here like a fiend 😩🤣 I hope you're happy with yourself. 😭🤣 seriously thank you for another great and interesting video!💙
And you're awesome for it!
Jordan Peterson reminding men it’s okay to cry! Love this man and I think your channel is extremely important, it’s so rare to come across such well researched and put together educational videos about these things. You are a hero in my eyes Ms. and you keep us thinking deeply about these topics! We love you “Baggage claim”.
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Definitely do a second video! Great job
It is important to note that nearly every monster sees himself as a victim and when you see yourself as the victim, you think everyone who challenges that idea is an enemy
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