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An AR-15 That Won't Need OIL?! Anderson's RF85 Rifles: SHOT Show 2017
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Take a sip of your drink every time "RF85" is said in this video.
AeroAtlas I would die from water poisoning
I did so with coffee and now I have a nervous tic...NEVER AGAIN!
AeroAtlas or every time she says umm lol
I have to pee.
1133, now that's funny right their !!!!
Had an R85 Anderson a couple of years ago. Had close to 1500 rds through it before I blew it up with a squib. Never oiled it once. Washed up nicely with soap and water! p.s. my bad on the squib. :( not the rifle! Also, customer service is A1.
I gotta admit, she's the the only reason I watched the video all the way through and hit the like button.
Also, not bashing your channel I'm subscribed as it is, my point is she made the video interesting to me
A. C. yep, i wont be buying one but ill listen to her talk about it lol.
I hit the like button to and didn't even realize it. Wow!
HEAVILY. MODERATED.
5k rounds isn't much of a "torture" test. BCM's "Filty 14" is north of 32k and still trucking.
Lucky Gunner also ran steel cased ammo testing that went over 10k.
None of you drooling fools noticed that she has a wedding ring, what was more interesting was the fact that she knew what she was talking about. which was more than some of the guys in other booths.
As always great video pleasure to know you.
Terry Gardner 👍
is that Yoda?
Terry Gardner Yes, she knew what she was talking about. Yes, the product seems impressive and I might order that for an upper but just because she has a ring on doesn't mean she's married. I've seen plenty of women do this at work. It is a common diversion tactic to avoid getting hit on. Chances are she actually is married but it doesn't hurt to look, just don't touch.
lol so you're calling other guys fools for noticing that she's attractive but then blatantly promoting the sexist stereotype that women can't possibly be knowledgeable about guns? nice going. also the ring doesn't mean we can't look!
DaArod42 LMAO.... sure, you may get your face slapped a few times/ but just think of all the DATES you may get- LOL
Who else watched the WHOLE video because of her?!!
The gun was sexier. Lol
I am stoked she totally knows what she's talking about! We need more ladies like her.
These guns are VERY interesting, and yes, the rep is attractive too... but let's be grown-ups guys. Comments will be heavily moderated.
The Late Boy Scout 3,000 + rounds through mine only two hiccups on 1990's surplus tracers.. It runs dry no issues. Have a buddy who has 5,000+ through his running almost exclusively steel case.. Zero malfunctions.
The Late Boy Scout
what would be interesting is this treatment in an ak47. ak47 can already be run dry. but imagine if you never eve have to oil an ak47
The Late Boy Scout well said
The Late Boy Scout lets be grown ups...dont get jelous my dude
The woman holding the AR 15 is already hot, but with her holding the AR 15 increases her hotness by 10x...lol
You know their website and the information on it is greatly lacking. I finally found out how to identify an RF85 rifle from a non RF85 by the stamp on the upper and lower, all in this video. Now I know, I still love my "non-RF85 Anderson AR". It shoots real nice. I'm really glad about the website upgrade also.
This gal is an enthusiast, not a typical hired presenter. She did a great job, she knows what she’s talking about instead of relying on a script' breath of fresh air!
She said impregnated....
:)
;) 2:43
My project gun is going rf85 so far I got the barrel and it hardly gets heated up or stays hot ..next I wanna get upper and bolt
Looks like great stuff! Thanks LBS.
I haven't seen any offerings on their website for 7.62 x 39 in SBR/Pistol configuration, RF85, which I was looking for. However, I just landed a deal on a RF85 10.5" in 5.56 for the same price as a non-RF85, I grabbed it up with a discount price of $165.00 less.
I have the optic ready Anderson! love it.
Best eyes of SHOT 2017.
RF85 is used in the racing industry on bearings and other high wear parts.
You need to upload additional footage of this rep.
bacorable she was most likely nervous and not ready to speak in front of the camera. Almost everyone that was recorded at shot show by other CZcamsr's spoke the same, broken like you said. It's just nerve-wracking you know? At least she knew her stuff...
So I just purchased an Anderson AM15 used and it doesn’t show an rf 85 mark anywhere. Can I lube it like normal then?
I get that the RF85 helps with lubrication, but does it prevent rust?
I saw another AR-15 by a company called Layke Tactical that was frozen in a chunk of ice, broken out of and still worked without cleaning it or doing anything do it aside from shooting it. This is AFTER they dirtied it with mud, dragged it on a dirt road tethered to a car and it worked fine. Seems they're trying to do similar miracles with this. I'm interested in both Layke and this. They seem to do durable SHTF-oriented AR-15s.
How Awesome!!
I've seen a few of these Shot Show videos from you and I'm sensing a theme. lol
This treatment's been around for a while... Some of the reviews I've read weren't exactly shining but it isn't completely inaccurate to say that they'll run without lubrication.
so when will you have ar15 upper stuff in stock ☹rf-85 to be specific
Just got mine from a pawn shop. Anderson am15...gun will only shoot once then won’t shoot anymore. Not sure what the issue is. Guys at shop said it needed to be lubed but I don’t see that being the issue if it so called doesn’t need to be...
I filmed their booth last year. Cool treatment for sure. Its a bold claim but the logic does make sense.
mixflip You should see if they'll let you take one through the ringer! Would love to see.
mixflip there are videos on here of the coating applied to some industrial machines. They do a side by side thermal image to see the heat build up. Non coated verse traditional machinery. It was very impressive how the coated one held up. This video was from the company who developed the coating and is not linked to Anderson. It was a really informative video. Thought u guys might like to see this stuff in action.
so can you get RF85 pistols and other firearms? or have your own weapon converted?
great video - where is the barrel engraved with RF85? thanks
So I guess my question here is if the metal is impregnated with a lubricant won't the metal eventually wear down as it is using the metal to keep the rifle functional?
i have an rf85 am15m4 "16 ... cleaned it once when i got it and never put oil in it ever.... over 500 rounds not a single ftf fte
I have one of these rifles.
I never heard of them before i bought one.
I bought it used at a Hunting Camping dealership called Gander Mountain.
They told me the same thing. I never need to lube it, just wipe it down with a cloth.
All guns need to be cleaned.
But some can last longer dirty then others.
I bought a cheaper AR 15 later after the Anderson Arms one.
My new one is a cheaper Smith and Wesson AR 15.
It cost $500 new.
The Anderson Arms AR 15 was $900 used.
Many have told me the Smith And Wesson not as good a AR 15 as most.
They just made some cheap ones so the man with not as much money can get an AR 15.
I like them, but i still prefer AK 47.
I also like the SKS.
I don't need lube either... and all it took was a $260 Adams arms piston kit. I would turn liberal before I would buy a regular looking 1600 dollar DI AR with polymer flip up sights.
I also have heard From a couple other companies that they did not have a such thing as having to break in the barrel. 6 out of the 8 I talked to said if it's necessary for you to have to make sure you at least shoot that many rounds through a rife it could represent a possible time you may have to shoot it to make sure the barrel has no defects in it. Sound like they may be nervous about there own product. Nothing against Anderson because i no how there are. My wife loves the 2 she has and we have not had any problems with them.
i just built my wife a DMR (She's getting into presicion shooting) and I used an Anderson lower, O also built a dedicated .22lr AR about 6months ago. Got both lowers for less than 100 bucks. I don't think the DDs are worth the money either. I wasn't commenting on Anderson's quality, I was simply saying that there's no way in hell it's worth $1600 bucks... especially when you can build one for half that price the way you want it... I use Aero m4e1s and BCM lowers as well. Now BCM complete rifles, or POFs for example, those are viable at that price range. In my opinion of course.
Maybe Anderson Arms can start manufacturing suppressors using the RF85, especially on the rimfire suppressors.
Girls and guns! That chick knows her stuff. Good informational video. Thumbs up.
I wonder what they call that treatment.
Glad to see a Kentucky company doing something awesome like this!
can you attach a binary fire switch
can you get the RF85 in SBR?
You couldn't get a better spokeslady for the tradeshow floor.
I'm glade to see scout changed the title of the video.
Whew! Soooo smokin!
I know the military trains with a regular and vigorous maintenance schedule, but I wonder if this treatment might improve function in poor environmental conditions for our armed services?
Time warp 50,000 of those back to Vietnam when the guys were told the m16 didn't need to be cleaned.
my tag said no oil but I'm glad to know I can oil it and it won't hurt it
Good idea but the cost vs the pay off doesn't seem worth it. Just clean and oil it and it doesn't need it.
Dirt dosnt stick it wipes off
...but still no ambi-selector markings from Anderson..?
RF85 sounds like gas I should not put in my car! Actually I just picked up a RF-85 upper and anxious to try it here soon! My non-RF products have been great hope the RF is too!
i think I'll get 2 new slr107s for that price that's just ridiculous
The sales rep doesn't know her product line unfortunately. The whole gun isn't treated it's only the upper and lower. It's hard coat anodize with teflon coating in the anodize. It's been in the aerospace world for many years.
Has the rep been rf85d
A rifle that cost this much and comes with backup sites right out of the box, thats just insane. That reminds me of when I only paid 52 grand for my truck and the dealer just threw in air conditioning and fm radio at no extra cost......my mind was blown.
Is there trouble at home LBS?... cause damn......
LOL, Magpul sights flipped up with a magnified optic....
I'd still never run an AR without at least some lube regardless lube will keep the wear down on the bolt and carrier
wasn't the original m16 marketed as a rifle you wouldn't need to clean it was supposed to be dipped in some cleaning solution by the armourers ??
Anderson makes very high quality products for very affordable price!
Dario Ortiz Yes they do! I have reviewed some of their products. ;)
They got some high quality models selling there products as well
There as good as any
What would happen if you just clean it with just water and no soap?
I have BCM rifles Colt rifles and LMT rifles none of which use RF85. My question is if this coating is so good why don't the big companies use it? Not sure if I drink the Coolaid yet!
Gear Runner RF85 is our proprietary treatment..
Gear Runner patented
And they have been using it for many years it works
Nice looking gal there! Cute smile!
She has a Nice Lower : )
Kelly Dardeen i only saw the upper it was nice. Lol
This is where I catch so much flak,.. I LOVE my Anderson rifle.. Its not a RF model I wish it was,... I couldn't afford one with that and still get all the extra amenities I wanted to have, but they make a rifle Id stack up against just about any other out there on the same level...
Eric K same here.
Eric K ARs for the most part all get the job done.
Hmm that's strange for sure,.You have to morter the charging handle to try to extract it? . I've seen where shooting steel can cause brass do do like that its just kinda rare as compared to the actual steel getting stuck. Try running a cleaning rod up the barrel from the muzzle, attach a chamber brush to it and use a power drill and bore bath it while you scrub the chamber out good. If you've shoot a good bit of steel cased stuff you could have excessive carbon build up in the throat area or in the chamber itself and the brass is hanging up on that ... other than that I don;t know what to tell ya to try other than Anderson themselves,..but try that first. You shouldnt have any issues with brass other than that,.. that I can think of,...I hope that helps
Hmm you using Pmags...? Try a S.S. GI mags, not aluminium but steel, if one of your buddies has one
Have and you looked to make sure the receiver is ramped ,.? It shouldn't make THAT much difference but just brainstorming and trying to help ya think of anything it could be,..
I've got an RF85 upper in the wonderfully dirty 7.62x39 commie round...1500 rounds later and 1 cleaning during those rounds fired and I love it. I now hate cleaning my other guns with religious regularity.
Is it me, or is the castle nut not staked?
Wait! they don't instruct you to lubricate it? Or it could run dry in a pinch? If this is true wouldn't this be the greatest innovation in the AR world? Why are we not hearing about this from every gun publication?
Its exclusive for anderson ar platform operators only' they are coming out soon with this new stuff called keymod.
was there a firearm in this video?
man ive got one and the finish on the bolt surface and inside the uppers is wearing off bad
Steven Wirgau z
very interesting gun..how come it has pretty low viewers?
I can watcher her talk about rifles all day.
Can you have this treatment done to AR's that don't have it?
josh benware thanks for replying, that sucks.
From now on she's going to debut everything at Shot Show. It is now a law, you're welcome.
i thought that it is ar 10, but girl is so small that ar 15 looks like ar 10. Good video B.T.W.
Great job showing these nice Anderson’s and my new crush Trisha
Does anyone own a RF85? I wanna know if it lives up to it's hype.
Also, does it need to be retreated after so many rounds?
I own one myself and have built 3 others. They do live up to the hype. The amount of heat and the speed that the bolt moves are noticeable different. Very easy to clean and you can actually see the oil building up on the surface as the gun heats up. It is a very cool product. As far as cost they mentioned in the video, build it with the upper RF85 and don't need the lower in RF85. I have done 4 setups including my own and all function flawless. Anderson is a great company and you can call them and someone actually answers. As far as accuracy, I get 3/4" groups with mine at 100 yards and Black Hill 77gr ammo.
Hope this helps :)
This is what I was looking for. I have an regular Anderson lower and haven't built the rest as I'm still considering options.
8triagrammer yep it wears off fast
8triagrammer I've had an RF-85 Anderson since they first came out, maybe 2010. Zero malfunctions, zero oil in all that time. Very well made and super accurate.
I can say with certainty that the way RF85 works, it doesn't wear off as you say. Its not something at a surface level like spraying oil on a gun. It is actually within the metal so as the gun wears it keeps excreting the oil. I have had thousands of rounds through mine and it still is giving off oil as is the other anderson builds I have done. Unless you have tested the RF85 product and found otherwise I would be careful stating that the oil wears off.
Just a little bit of additional info on RF85.. It is used in the medical and racing industry because of the very same properties that make it perfect for firearms. There are more extensive tests conducted for the racing industry than for the firearms and none point to the product wearing off at any point.
Just food for thought.
trisha reminds me of sasha grey.... just saying.
She can get it.
Id like to find out..
Lt.Gabe naa she reminds me of Sophia Bush
Only she's far more dignified and actually knows useful facts
sasha greys hotter sister imo
I just bought a bull barrel Anderson
What's the life of a RF85 treated 5.56/7.62 barrel or +upper receiver.....? make do with 25000rds....................? ? all-weather; rain,shine, riverine, sea, cold, desert conditions ?
So what's up with shooting 400 to 500 hundred rounds through the rifle if there is no such thing as having to breaking the barrel in.
They no longer sell the RF85 AR.
Those slab sided handguards... ugh. Oh, she did say keymod and maybe M-Lok later. I respect Anderson for making decent quality ARs at a price point that budget conscious shooters can afford but damn boys and girls, time to write new software routines for your milling machines! Even UTG is putting out slim, lightweight, decent looking handguards at value prices.
what a gal
Uhm, she so sweet tho,,,
if you want reliability of an AK, don't want to clean BCGs or any part of the chamber, you don't need to spend $1700 to do so. just change your di system for a piston system.
that maybe why elite units like the USMC and the French Foreign Legion are all going to the HK 416.
hi, do you have an HK 416? I'm interested in it
give it to rob. from ak operators union.
Boyscout, you should do an honest review and torture test. I haven't found a video with someone I can trust...😉
Working on it. :)
Is rf85 snake oil? Or nah
Someone’s got that one on Lockdown , you see that ROCK on her finger :)
Did she say rf 85
Damn she fine and damn mine isn't r85. Time to buy another.
Run the video at quarter speed, mute the sound, and throw on some Barry White.
Wish I had a dollar for all those um's and uh's
Does she come with the rifle lol. Just kidding. The RF85 treatment makes me a little curious but still find it hard to believe it requires no oil. I would still had a very light film of oil.
The gun does sound awesome--I would pay top-dollar to have my gun treated by her to be sure.
There are two reasons people give for watching this video:
1) the rep
2) a lie
Fast horses and beautiful women. That's how we roll here in the bluegrass...
It comes out of the box ready to shoot, what a surprise..... Lol cute girl though😉
when has not cleaning ar's ever gone wrong?
5,000 rounds is a torture test? Tell me how well it works after 50,000 rounds.
RequiemDead lol most barrels arent rated for thAt. SMH