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    The year 2019 in movies offered a bunch of flops and letdowns -- Men In Black International, Curse of La Llorona, Hellboy, Gemini Man (+ Rise of Skywalker to some) and Mortal engines to name a few -- but none of them as much so as Terminator: Dark Fate. This is a film that was supposed to revitalize a fallen franchise -- packing talent like James Cameron, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Tim Miller. And yet, the only thing it managed to do was destroy the very thing that made the franchise what it is. The filmmakers promised something new, whereas in reality all they delivered was fake originality at the cost of Terminator 2, the greatest action movie ever made. In today's episode of award winning family friendly trending page worthy Anatomy of a Failure, let's look at Dark Fate and how exactly it lies to the audience in a way that made it the worst movie of 2019.
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    Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
    Director Tim Miller helmed the sixth installment in the Terminator franchise, which reunites Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger in a timeline that unfolds two decades after the events of the first movie. An aging Sarah Connor joins forces with a cybernetically-enhanced female soldier from 2042-and her former nemesis-to protect a young girl from an advanced Terminator model from the dystopian future.
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    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
    The remaining traces of the Resistance movement assemble in their quest to overthrow the First Order, once and for all. Each member of the Resistance must contend with both their own demons and how the events of the past everything wrong with Terminator Dark Fate cinemasins honest trailer terminator dark fate watch terminator dark fate full movie online free terminator dark fate clip hd 4k battle scene action scene james cameron have affected them, learning to overcome their struggles to create a unified front. Meanwhile, the Jedi and the Sith approach their final face-off, bringing centuries of contention to a head. At the heart of it all is Rey (Daisy Ridley), the former orphan who stands as the Resistance's last hope as the galaxy's remaining Jedi knight. Directed by J.J. Abrams.
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    Men In Black: International (2019)
    Roughly based on the Lowell Cunningham Marvel comic book of the same name, this film follows the Men in Black film series of previous years. A new team is protecting the earth from a special kind of shapeshifting alien in this adventure as Agent H. (Chris Hemsworth) and Agent M. (Tessa Thompson) attempt to protect earth from an intergalactic takeover; another enemy closer to home has penetrated the organization in the form of a mole. Directed by F. Gary Gray and co-written by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway.
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    • @SA80TAGE
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    • @unstoppableExodia
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    • @utley
      @utley Před 4 lety +3

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  • @JerichoDeath
    @JerichoDeath Před 3 lety +3240

    "We need to stop the robots before they end all human life in the future."
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  • @azraelbatosi
    @azraelbatosi Před 3 lety +1966

    When she said “you’re not going to birth some MAN who’s going to save the future, you ARE the future...” the few people in my movie theater actually starting chuckling and laughing

    • @hasnahmad-wv4xe
      @hasnahmad-wv4xe Před 3 lety +89

      🅱️ *R U H*

    • @gumdeo
      @gumdeo Před 3 lety +333

      It basically became a self-parody at that point.

    • @hasnahmad-wv4xe
      @hasnahmad-wv4xe Před 3 lety +23

      @@gumdeo indeef

    • @azraelbatosi
      @azraelbatosi Před 3 lety +184

      It’s awful that the only funny part of the movie was unplanned and in response to dialogue these people probably thought was just genius

    • @nepntzerZer
      @nepntzerZer Před 3 lety +44

      i heard audible winces...

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday Před 3 lety +961

    The director being all proud that everything is CG is the epitome of what's wrong with Hollywood. In 10 seconds.

    • @g.d.graham2446
      @g.d.graham2446 Před 2 lety +9

      Of course

    • @Toastrackman
      @Toastrackman Před 2 lety +51

      A woke attitude is what killed this franchise off imo.

    • @g.d.graham2446
      @g.d.graham2446 Před 2 lety +5

      Definitely

    • @bigpun7916
      @bigpun7916 Před rokem +1

      I hope that Director is homeless , that movie was a pile of woke shit.

    • @famalam943
      @famalam943 Před rokem +7

      @@Toastrackman it wasn’t woke. Or at least I wouldn’t say it was. It was just a poor terminator movie. They all are.
      Two movies. That’s it.

  • @ahuman9864
    @ahuman9864 Před 3 lety +496

    I just don’t understand why they couldn’t give everyone what they wanted. More John, more Sarah and more Arnie. They literally showed how possible that was in the opening 3 minutes.

    • @alexielmarquay
      @alexielmarquay Před 2 lety +41

      I know right ?
      The moment I heard that John dies at the beginning I decided to keep my money.

    • @jonathanhenriques2459
      @jonathanhenriques2459 Před 2 lety +8

      Rightttt?! obviously it wasn’t them because they’re older. But it looked good enough for me

    • @soulbrother5435
      @soulbrother5435 Před 2 lety +22

      If future Terminator installments want to be something valuable as it is they should dump Arnie. His appearance in Dark Fate was depressing enough and I dont want to see 80 year old man kicking asses with bad cgi in my Terminator 7. And yes Im big fan of Terminator, Arnie is iconic but its in the past now

    • @Dark6997
      @Dark6997 Před 2 lety +14

      @@soulbrother5435 Honestly I think Salvation was the right idea just not pulled off as well as it could have been. What I would've done is go off from Terminator 2 but a new threat pops it head and they realize they can't go back in the past to solve things they need to deal with things in the here and now for a better future.
      And of course bring back John Connor

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 Před rokem +3

      @@Dark6997 That's a very good idea. Having it be set in a mostly modern future or even the current day, with robots coming not from the future but from right now. We can't build a machine to go back yet, so we must fight the terminators rising up now. Sorry of an odd mishmash between t3 and salvation. Or hell, just salvation but better. Having a story about John slowly building the resistance in a war torn world would be sick, instead of...salvation.

  • @alexdinu589
    @alexdinu589 Před 3 lety +1350

    Sarah: I'll be back
    Terminator fans: We won't

    • @CasualGamingEnthusiast
      @CasualGamingEnthusiast Před 3 lety +27

      James Cameron need to be back as the director.

    • @enclavesoldier5842
      @enclavesoldier5842 Před 3 lety +2

      Good one

    • @wahabfiles6260
      @wahabfiles6260 Před 3 lety +2

      actually we were back! saw the movie in cinema with the boys.

    • @predator7939
      @predator7939 Před 3 lety +20

      We definitely won't be back if you keep rehashing the same movie over and over again.

    • @jevinday
      @jevinday Před 3 lety +5

      right? who the fuck is watching these movies? I guess this is the kind of movie that cool dads bring their 8 year old kid to and the kid ends up loving the hell out of it.

  • @UltimateCerberus
    @UltimateCerberus Před 4 lety +2999

    "You see this helicopter going under a freeway overpass? That's a helicopter going under a freeway overpass." Just killed me hahahaha

    • @vit968
      @vit968 Před 4 lety +211

      *CGI was so abused in this movie. That entire cargo plane sequence was just cringe.*

    • @bryan81584
      @bryan81584 Před 4 lety +122

      @J C
      Ya except the helicopter would be doing barrel rolls while on fire or some crazy crap.
      That's most action movie cgi now, take something that could have been done more practically, do it digitally, and crank it up to unbelievable.

    • @richtea615
      @richtea615 Před 4 lety +55

      One of the most brutal owns in cinema history right there.

    • @WarlockX4
      @WarlockX4 Před 4 lety +7

      @J C I feel the same way bro. That's why it's hard for me to watch Tom cruise movies.

    • @earthfederationspaceforce9844
      @earthfederationspaceforce9844 Před 4 lety +42

      this is CG, that is CG, you are CG, I AM CG

  • @nigelbrayshaw2709
    @nigelbrayshaw2709 Před 3 lety +154

    "I want fans to feel like, we're not just telling the same story over again" *scratches nose

  • @Kolateak_
    @Kolateak_ Před 3 lety +211

    "Come with me, or you'll die in the next 30 seconds"
    Come on, just use it at that point, that's honestly worse than not using the phrase
    It's probably the second most 'Terminator' line after "I'll be back"

  • @erezshiri3653
    @erezshiri3653 Před 3 lety +658

    "Can I copy your homework?"
    "Yes but change some things so it won't look identical"

    • @joshpart3319
      @joshpart3319 Před 3 lety +29

      more like "I'm gonna reuse this exact same homework I made years ago and change it a little bit; it's a different teacher he won't notice"

    • @sashimi879
      @sashimi879 Před 3 lety

      You're making yourself look like a dumb fuck.

    • @erezshiri3653
      @erezshiri3653 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sashimi879 oh damn this are alot of likes thanks bro I didn't know

    • @bevoburn
      @bevoburn Před 3 lety +2

      Works every time

    • @606danco
      @606danco Před 3 lety +1

      That sir is what i call the a team method just change a little and Iam good to go

  • @ChrisPeteG
    @ChrisPeteG Před 4 lety +3685

    After literally FOUR attempts to make the best "Terminator 3" possible....the best Terminator 3 ended up being the first Terminator 3.

    • @brianparkhurst2636
      @brianparkhurst2636 Před 4 lety +379

      Nah Salvation was better

    • @ChrisPeteG
      @ChrisPeteG Před 4 lety +564

      @@brianparkhurst2636 That is a valid opinion. I typically find T3 to be good with a number of bad things holding it back, while Salvation is not-so-good but with a number of highlights.
      I won't argue with anyone who prefers Salvation. T3 and Salvation are both far better than Genisys and Dark Fate.

    • @deeem2628
      @deeem2628 Před 4 lety +18

      Wrong

    • @qwer-tj5ob
      @qwer-tj5ob Před 4 lety +217

      Terminator 1,2,3 creates a perfect time loop. Judgement day is inevitable.

    • @Vasharan
      @Vasharan Před 4 lety +64

      *least worst*

  • @mizocarbazarofficial
    @mizocarbazarofficial Před 3 lety +502

    The worst part is too much CGI

    • @honeywellparts7541
      @honeywellparts7541 Před 3 lety +39

      Indian people could use that CGI a lot better

    • @dreamersiminegev6203
      @dreamersiminegev6203 Před 3 lety +4

      @@honeywellparts7541 SUBARU SUBARU SUBARUuUuUUUu!!!!

    • @Fif0l
      @Fif0l Před 3 lety +47

      CGI is not a problem. Bad CGI is.

    • @joethegreat1008
      @joethegreat1008 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Fif0l exactly

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Fif0l there is also something such as too much cgi, most new blockbuster movies look like they're animated movies most of the time

  • @edpotter1170
    @edpotter1170 Před 2 lety +148

    Kyle Reese: protect John!
    Arnold: protect John!
    Sarah: protect John!
    Dark Fate: new phone who dis?

  • @vitkriklan2633
    @vitkriklan2633 Před 4 lety +1236

    The director going "this is all digital" is one of the most depressing things, I've ever seen.

    • @CapnArrich
      @CapnArrich Před 4 lety +69

      And then that sweet helicopter shot going under that bridge, and they were all wait, what?

    • @alexandrucristian289
      @alexandrucristian289 Před 4 lety +26

      Back when they made terminator 2, the CGI wasn't that good, now in 2019, the CGI is as good as you can't tell the difference from real ( see transformers movies, when i first saw the first movie of transformers in 2007, i was , wait, it's that real?) Making it CGI is easier and cheaper now, and looks very good, so, if you can't realy tell which is which, why does it matter if is real or CGI or why is it depressing from your point of view? Are you more of a old school kind of doing? I am a professional photographer and image retoucher, digital artist, so, from my point of view, why should i go old cameras and films and red room to develop pictures? does that makes sense to you now? going digital offers me this whole range of possibilities for my photos, i don't have to spend hours to develop my photos, and chemicals which are bad for my health, and you had to know how to develop, how much chemicals to use, which ones and so on...films are expensive, and you can shoot only 30-80 images on one, where on the sd cards, you shoot 1.000+, so....making a comparison from this, try and understand why now all movie makers goes 90% digital. Yeah the movie wasn't that great, but still, the CGI was great and going 95% CGI isn't a bad thing. Stay safe.

    • @nonAehT
      @nonAehT Před 4 lety +61

      @@alexandrucristian289 It is all about how the CGI is used. (And cgi effects, and digital filming of the footage are two very different things) While it is true that visual effects have improved drastically, and there are films who use them in fantastic ways (District 9, Mad Max Fury Road) for some of those effects you still either consciously or subconsciously notice that something is off. Blood and gore effects especially fall victim to this.
      John wick 3 for example is an enjoyable movie, but the Blood effects just don't look convincing and dulled some of the impact on the action. John Rambo had a similar issue, with Blood effects that you could tell at first glance were digitally added later, since blood was flying, but no impact holes appeared when people were shot.
      Additionally in my opinion practical effects bring out better actor performance. The iconic Chest Burster scene in Aliens(The actors didn't know what was going to come out), or the horrifiying creations of "The Thing" would probably not have produced the same authenticity of reactions by the actors, if you had told them to imagine what would happen and filmed the scenes with dummies/placeholders. It's the difference of imagining seeing something vile and repulsive, or actually seeing something that is vile and repulsive right in front of you.

    • @nonAehT
      @nonAehT Před 4 lety +20

      In a way it's like martial arts movies where people don't actually hit each other, or when a cgi body gets thrown around. It looks real "enough" but you can tell when something really hurts(In the Mortal Kombat movie for example one of the things the stunt coordinator said was "If you get hurt, just keep going, chances are it looks real and you wont have to do it again", leading to fight scenes beeing rated internally by the number of broken ribs they caused) and it's the reason many modern hollywood action movies just lack the impact to make them truly enjoyable for me. The Thai movie "Born to Fight" is a great example of a movie where the stunts are painfully real, which makes for an intense action experience. If you know no one is in danger (since it's cgi) the action has less of an impact. In the outtakes you see people getting kicked of moving trucks, with the actor pulling his head away from the moving tire in the last second before it would crush his skull. The hero gets hit with a real burning log, with real sparks flying etc. You FEEL how the actors are hurting from what happened, because it really did most of the time and this translates to audiences in a much more visceral way than cgi can. Those guys were so proud of their stuntwork, you can see most of the raw footage/test runs/bloopers of the biggest stunts during the credits and seeing what insane shit they put themselves through just makes it so much more enjoyable and impressive.

    • @alexandrucristian289
      @alexandrucristian289 Před 4 lety +1

      @@nonAehT "John Rambo had a similar issue, with Blood effects that you could tell at first glance were digitally added later, since blood was flying, but no impact holes appeared when people were shot.
      " That's the digital artist fault of missing some elements , and that's what gave away the CGI and make it look fake, otherwise, it would have look real.
      "Additionally in my opinion practical effects bring out better actor performance. The iconic Chest Burster scene in Aliens(The actors didn't know what was going to come out), or the horrifiying creations of "The Thing" would probably not have produced the same authenticity of reactions by the actors, if you had told them to imagine what would happen and filmed the scenes with dummies/placeholders. It's the difference of imagining seeing something vile and repulsive, or actually seeing something that is vile and repulsive right in front of you." From my point of view, i'm not an actor, but, as a professional photographer, and digital artist ( composites ) not being able to see the "alien" let's say, and act very good and convincing that there's a real and scary alien there, that's a real good acting. Some actor can't act even if they see the thing, so, at the end it's a matter of the actor/actress and not if is CGI or robotics/pupets. I believe that a good actor is the actor who can act good even if he/she imagine there's an evil or bad thing happening. Most of the time when i do compositing, it's like making a puzzle without knowing the end result, i just have to imagine the final result and use the pieces i have, or if i shot the pieces myself, i already know what the end results i want it to be, because i know why i shot the pieces of the puzzle in the first place. If that makes sense to you. Stay safe.

  • @zerocalvin
    @zerocalvin Před 4 lety +1166

    "It's not Skynet, it's legion.. an AI build for warfare"
    at that moment the best thing to do would have Sarah to say "so it's Skynet"

    • @capthavic
      @capthavic Před 4 lety +162

      Yeah but they probably didn't want to draw any more attention to how shamelessly they plagiarized the previous films.

    • @Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive
      @Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive Před 4 lety +4

      @@capthavic no it's just as time moves on things change...

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Před 4 lety +135

      Which is what pisses me off.
      Basically they got rid of SKYNET, and now they have a new AI called Legion which ACTS EXACTLY LIKE SKYNET. So a COMPLETE NEW AI BUILT BY DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND PEOPLE ACT EXACTLY LIKE THE PREVIOUS ONE AKA SKYNET. It even makes Terminators EXACTLY LIKE SKYNET, and time travel EXACTLY LIKE SKYNET.
      That shows how bankrupt and stupid Hollywood truly is.

    • @Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive
      @Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive Před 4 lety

      @@LUCKO2022 ok boomer

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Před 4 lety +42

      @@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive Go clean your room or no juice box you punk ass zoomer.

  • @andrewrivera190
    @andrewrivera190 Před 2 lety +123

    What also makes Arnie’s Terminator in T2 special is it subverts the expectations of those who watched T1. If you didn’t know the plot of T2 you would assume he was the villain based on your knowledge from T1. I guess T2 is so popular though not many people would really care about the plot twist though.

  • @tariqahmed4532
    @tariqahmed4532 Před 3 lety +333

    I really feel sad about the fact that all my childhood movies are ruined by Hollywood and it's unnecessary agendas

    • @kachiggamybigga9481
      @kachiggamybigga9481 Před 3 lety +15

      This.

    • @CubiCNooBiC
      @CubiCNooBiC Před 2 lety +39

      You dont have to be sad, you saw the good movies, what really sad is that younger generation will probably see that new crap and that what really sad, you should consider yourself lucky actually.

    • @pats3212
      @pats3212 Před rokem +7

      It's not even the agenda, it's just bad writing

    • @justastudent1423
      @justastudent1423 Před rokem

      There is no agenda other than reusing a recognizable IP to generate revenue

    • @guerrerosioux
      @guerrerosioux Před rokem +1

      Terminator, Predator, Robocop, Alien... One day, art historians will examine the movies of this time to say "What a fuck happened???"

  • @jknetwork6211
    @jknetwork6211 Před 4 lety +2361

    Wrong! It should have been “How Fake Originality TERMINATED a Legacy”.

    • @Ghost.8456
      @Ghost.8456 Před 4 lety +109

      He changed it lol

    • @jknetwork6211
      @jknetwork6211 Před 4 lety +90

      Ghost8456 he took my advice awesome! 😂👌

    • @shedblood1645
      @shedblood1645 Před 4 lety +6

      what was it before?

    • @thegax7593
      @thegax7593 Před 4 lety +8

      what was the original title? i'm only now seeing it, so i'm very curious haha

    • @jknetwork6211
      @jknetwork6211 Před 4 lety +21

      Shed Blood “destroyed”

  • @bluesmaster9896
    @bluesmaster9896 Před 4 lety +1884

    "I need your boots your clothes and your menstrualcycle"

  • @yourmatetom
    @yourmatetom Před 3 lety +596

    you're editing is top notch my friend. Bravo. "Oh good for you!" haha

  • @TritonsGuard
    @TritonsGuard Před 3 lety +31

    One of the worst parts about killing John is that they never even showed why he is so important. It has only been spoken of, and what has been said about him? He is going to become an extremely good military commander. This has great potential to be something that people will want to see, and they threw it away for no reason other than to put someone else in his place in an unreasonable move to appeal to another audience yet believing their current one would appreciate it.

  • @jdpc9391
    @jdpc9391 Před 4 lety +550

    Imagine if the girl had been the one to create Legion and that the robot had been sent to the past to protect her while the human had sent someone to kill her. Invert the story that way would have been way better.

    • @mr.nobody9697
      @mr.nobody9697 Před 4 lety +82

      Thats fine but the story is still stupid because it made the first two films irrelevant. This is basically a different non related film. This might as well have been just a reboot unrelated to the franchise.

    • @eddiea8468
      @eddiea8468 Před 4 lety +116

      This actually would have been the perfect way to 'reboot' the Terminator franchise. It would have been perfect. It would have been a twist that actually made this movie worth remembering.
      EDIT: Just realised that if they went with this, they wouldn't have had to include John Connor in the story at all. They could have just said that John and Sarah were off doing their own thing, prepping for the War, avoiding Terminators, etc... while this new character was struggling to survive and wondering why human assassins from the future kept trying to kill her, and why the robots seemed to love her so much. Could have even made it a nice examination of John's character: is Future John really the idealised, almost messianic figure the early movies make him out to be, if he would send soldiers back in time to kill an (at the moment) innocent girl?
      They could have done so much with this concept. It could have been the Joker of the Terminator franchise - a way to show the 'other side' of a classic story without disrespecting the original concept. Hell, they could have had the woman eventually create the killer AI in self-defence - as a way to upgrade her original robot protector and help it keep her safe from increasingly more desperate/advanced of Future Human Assassins. They could have written a story where it is John Connor's attempt to meddle in the past that ultimately give rise to the killer AI in the future, just like how it was Skynet's attempt to kill Sarah Connor in the past that ultimately led to the conception of John.
      Instead we got Dark Fate. Which was alright, but just hearing your idea made me realise just how much better it could have been.

    • @DarkNaifu
      @DarkNaifu Před 4 lety +16

      And of course, Skynet was destroyed in T2. So Sarah and John lived happily ever after.

    • @fxzero666
      @fxzero666 Před 4 lety +26

      At this point, almost any storyline that does something new would be better... like Salvation which was only brought down by shitty acting and aesthetics (enough gray?)

    • @mr.nobody9697
      @mr.nobody9697 Před 4 lety +3

      @@fxzero666 The plot was also nonsensical. One of the dumbest scripts in the franchise.

  • @eugeneruby433
    @eugeneruby433 Před 3 lety +224

    "Runs like a scary Tom Cruise" is the best description of Robert Patrick's T1000 stride I've ever heard.

    • @mikesmollin8908
      @mikesmollin8908 Před rokem +5

      Tom Cruise is very scary already though, especially when he runs, I have seen Collateral. So I think he just runs like Tom, period

    • @DanielSlva
      @DanielSlva Před rokem +1

      @@mikesmollin8908 No one runs like Tom.

  • @gameplaytru
    @gameplaytru Před 3 lety +24

    When I saw the scene where young John Connor was killed on the beach and just disregard all the things that they've done in previous movies, then that's the time I lost interest in it.

  • @brunomenezes9011
    @brunomenezes9011 Před rokem +18

    You can say this franchise really had a dark fate.

  • @Rocksteady72a
    @Rocksteady72a Před 4 lety +527

    "This car is not really there"
    "This door is not really there"
    "This guard rail is not actually there"
    "And this good movie is not really there." is what I half-expected him to circle the entire frame and say.

  • @romancapulus5577
    @romancapulus5577 Před 4 lety +1120

    Tim Miller: “This is digital. That’s digital. That’s not really there. Who’s gonna know?”
    James Cameron: “So that helicopter that’s flying under a freeway overpass is actually legit.”
    Love the comparison 😁

    • @xgray2012
      @xgray2012 Před 4 lety +43

      Yeah, Tim Miller is a douchebag. I can see why James Cameron said that this guy was difficult to work with in his interview about producing "Terminator: Dork Fate".

    • @RetroSense
      @RetroSense Před 4 lety +41

      It's more funny when you look at the time Tom Cruise _actually_ ran down, and jumped from, the Burj Khalifa. After that you can't really have excuses to make small things, like car crashes, using CGI

    • @dasmorbo3508
      @dasmorbo3508 Před 4 lety +24

      @@xgray2012 Lol my commnt got deleted. I called Tim Miller a corporate tool insulting everyone, especially his audience.

    • @grahamcreese5665
      @grahamcreese5665 Před 4 lety +4

      Hmmm cool name im a creesy too lol G

    • @christopherregan1654
      @christopherregan1654 Před 4 lety +11

      Then there's the time that Tom Cruise actually hung on the outside of a real airplane that actually took off on a real runway!

  • @Awesoman
    @Awesoman Před 2 lety +32

    The Terminator franchise came to a logical, satisfying conclusion with the second movie. Which is why every subsequent film seems pointless and redundant. There was never a need for more sequels. The only way a meaningful third installment could stand a chance is if Cameron had been fully on board as both writer and director.

    • @kaineshigaraki5253
      @kaineshigaraki5253 Před 4 měsíci

      The 7th Terminator film will have Cameron as the writer and the director [>

  • @fishyfish6510
    @fishyfish6510 Před 3 lety +26

    After Salvation's ending I really waited to see the victory of the Resistance in the next movie and what did I get. The same thing all over again!!

  • @captaindeadpool313
    @captaindeadpool313 Před 4 lety +302

    T2 used a real helicopter in 1991
    Dark Fate used cgi in 2019. Despite being a newer movie, it's still fake as shit. They couldn't even use real cars for god sake. The franchise is dead R.I.P it's legacy. Dark Fate made Salvation look like Avengers.

    • @NateTech1
      @NateTech1 Před 4 lety +2

      Check out this video about CG: czcams.com/video/bL6hp8BKB24/video.html

    • @SeaGLGaming
      @SeaGLGaming Před 4 lety +26

      T2 used a real helicopter while Dark Fate couldn't even use real signs. Like, wtf. Just seems they wanted to blow a budget. I mean, the only CG that's truly needed in a Terminator film is for the Terminators and potential gore. Hell, even in Genisys, they flipped an actual bus.

    • @majormax360
      @majormax360 Před 4 lety +21

      @@NateTech1 Yes CGI is nice, but it is about augmenting our reality, not replacing it. We are getting close to making a complete CGI movie that is indistinguishable from reality. But these complaints are how an over reliance on CGI causes people to become lazy. The reliance of we will fix it in post, when if you tried to film the scene where a car has its door ripped off by another car, the car would change course because of the impact. You notice these things if you tried to film them. how people react when sparks fly close to their face. They act better because.... its not acting. its reacting. They can be done safely and in doing the car door bit then CGing the actress in the seat the scene may have turned out different because the car would react to the impact.

    • @ghost_pl9259
      @ghost_pl9259 Před 4 lety +4

      Just because they use CGI doesnt make the movie bad. Horrible story does that.

    • @saljpal3
      @saljpal3 Před 4 lety +8

      I love when certain continuations that I like get shit on and then another sequel comes out that's even worse and suddenly to previous film isn't to bad. It's what happened to Terminator Salvation and it also happened to the Star Wars prequel trilogy. lol

  • @jarturolopez77
    @jarturolopez77 Před 3 lety +323

    the mad Bale lines are the fkn best
    "I'm human"
    "OOOOH GOOOD FOR YOU!"

    • @lukebatchelor717
      @lukebatchelor717 Před 3 lety +16

      really should use those for future videos too not just terminator related LOL

  • @anandhua.b4589
    @anandhua.b4589 Před 3 lety +18

    *"ok you can copy my homework but don't make it too obvious"*

  • @woongah
    @woongah Před 2 lety +4

    "You see that helicopter flying under a freeway overpass? That is a helicopter flying under a freeway overpass".
    Cameron is a maniac.

  • @laurie3193
    @laurie3193 Před 4 lety +221

    The new terminator should've had the audio of Christian Bale freaking out as a way to scare the humans. That would've been original.

    • @leo-sj6un
      @leo-sj6un Před 4 lety +3

      Bruh i remember that shit😂

    • @stranger59
      @stranger59 Před 4 lety +4

      OOOOH, GOOOOOD for you! And how was it?

    • @laurie3193
      @laurie3193 Před 4 lety +6

      @@stranger59 "I hope it was fucking great because it's useless now, isn't it?"
      The terminator franchise after T2

    • @nt78stonewobble
      @nt78stonewobble Před 4 lety

      Pft lol :D

  • @RedThorn
    @RedThorn Před 4 lety +409

    It's simple:
    Imagine building up a character over two movies, getting the audience to like and care about that character's fate and struggle over those two movies, and then killing said character off in the first 2 minutes of the third movie, only to replace him with another character who is destined to do the same exact thing he was supposed to do.
    No matter what, your audience is going to naturally feel cheated out of seeing the character they've become invested in and grown to care about chucked away like rotting meat and then replaced with a substitute that is not written even half as interesting. In just two minutes, you've already written a recipe for failure.

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro Před 4 lety +38

      That's basically how admiral Ackbar was replaced by "Whole Dough" in The Last Jedi.
      Although, having a character named "Ackbar" dying in a suicide attack would have been awkward...

    • @sonnic1995
      @sonnic1995 Před 4 lety +13

      For some reason makes me think of when they decided "F*k the T-Rex, here's a new dinosaur we're forcing you to like because we want to sell more toys, basically the same but in n ew shape" from Jurassic Park 3.

    • @jaydoode15
      @jaydoode15 Před 4 lety +3

      They could have just hired Edward Furlong to reprise his role and have Arnold be his protector as an aged T-800, just like in Genysis and Dark Fate, but let's be honest, it still wouldn't have been as good as the first two films.

    • @montanabboy
      @montanabboy Před 4 lety +2

      Alien 3

    • @imotogin
      @imotogin Před 4 lety

      Showing John's death in the trailers would be a better move than what they did. At least people would have some time to absorb the shock. Like, they just killed John f*cking Connor before my eyes, do I care about the new characters? or the movie? Hell, I need a lot of vodka to forget what I just saw! A week's worth of drinking, and then probably therapy.
      Jokes aside, yeah, Dark Fate was the worst short film I ever saw, and the rest of it just doesn't exist for me.

  • @redpie2002
    @redpie2002 Před 3 lety +13

    I'll say this as many times I can: If something works, don't touch it.

  • @Force_Of_Habit
    @Force_Of_Habit Před 3 lety +8

    I have 2 words for you:
    Terminator: Resistance
    Granted it's not perfect but it sure is the best Terminator content we've had since T2

  • @rutgerhauer7386
    @rutgerhauer7386 Před 4 lety +324

    "You are not the mother of some MAN who saves the future"
    And there it is.

    • @user-gp6ny7yu2b
      @user-gp6ny7yu2b Před 4 lety +2

      Fuck you

    • @sonny2854
      @sonny2854 Před 4 lety +33

      yep lol fucking liberals dog shit

    • @robertthebruce6035
      @robertthebruce6035 Před 4 lety +5

      Exfuckinxactly yup. Ya found it.

    • @Ayrton866
      @Ayrton866 Před 4 lety

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @theALTF4
      @theALTF4 Před 4 lety +2

      thaaaat just screams insecurity...and proyecting your personal bias n insecurities in your ̶f̶u̶r̶s̶o̶n̶a̶ movies protagonists.
      the same kind of writing i expect from a 16 yo' deviant artist' fanfic going troug an emotional crysis
      sad, coz i like (actual) strong women doing cool shit (old PPG for example )

  • @JebusCookies
    @JebusCookies Před 4 lety +701

    "The only thing it progresses is the idea that all women and people of different cultures are good for is repeating what white men already did" an amazing philosophical statement that cuts so deeply at the heart of what is plaguing the entirety of western culture. Well said sir

    • @ShadyCloud313
      @ShadyCloud313 Před 4 lety +45

      Yes that was a good statement I replayed it like 3 times Hollywood just don't seem to get it, they made all these changes just to make it more diverse just to tell the same story

    • @KneelB4Bacon
      @KneelB4Bacon Před 4 lety +44

      Hollywood is out of ideas because they don't have any quality writers left. Hollywood is the place where dreams go to die, now. That's why they make endless reboots and remakes. I'm so glad that smaller producers like Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime are turning out some quality content. I hope this trend continues.

    • @kingMadnus
      @kingMadnus Před 4 lety +7

      Ironically enough in T2 it was a black man responsible

    • @montebrown54
      @montebrown54 Před 4 lety +13

      By SJW's own standards this is "cultural appropriation."

    • @charlienash1050
      @charlienash1050 Před 4 lety +5

      @moz zo go and fuck yourself you pesky worthless sjw fanboy

  • @theKRB93
    @theKRB93 Před 2 lety +6

    6:17 "who runs like a scary Tom Cruise" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @yahaaa1343
    @yahaaa1343 Před 3 lety +28

    Having an AI caugth in the middle of the figth between machines and humanity plus time travel to the future to stop the war is prety much the core of the Sarah Connor Chronicle.
    I think it's a very interesting idea not too badly realised.
    But i also think T3 well deserve to exists by completing and closing the story arc of the Terminator franchise by delivering the idea that the war is inescapable, all there is to do is survive it.
    Thanks for the vid.

  • @leandrocesar5487
    @leandrocesar5487 Před 4 lety +139

    As James Franco says: "Same Same... BUT DIFFERENT... But still same"

  • @thequietknitter9107
    @thequietknitter9107 Před 4 lety +269

    changing characters' gender / race / costume in the SAME story isn't a new story. It's a second draft.

    • @LadyFairChildVideo
      @LadyFairChildVideo Před 4 lety +24

      it's SJW and forced inclusion , is what it is.

    • @DaScorpionSting
      @DaScorpionSting Před 4 lety +5

      Agree

    • @CRAM079
      @CRAM079 Před 4 lety +2

      that should have gotten rejected, then shredded.

    • @LadyFairChildVideo
      @LadyFairChildVideo Před 4 lety +4

      @@CRAM079 you mean terminated. lol

    • @faz6877
      @faz6877 Před 4 lety +3

      I don't understand why Tim Miller was acting like he created anything new. Anything he changed he replaced with a watered down version of itself. John is replaced by a character following the exact same beats only not done as well. Skynet is replaced with Legion only is now generic CGI BS. And the entire plot is really mirroring T2. Right down to Arnold sacrificing himself at the end. Terrible

  • @ahabduennschitz7670
    @ahabduennschitz7670 Před 2 lety +1

    One Quote that fits this movie best is from my favourite Man James Franco: "Same... but different"

  • @PolnocneGranie
    @PolnocneGranie Před 2 lety +153

    That ending was briliant. Down to earth summary why "political correctness" is so flawed and only hurts the people.

    • @g.d.graham2446
      @g.d.graham2446 Před 2 lety +2

      So it seems

    • @tobias064
      @tobias064 Před 2 lety

      nah, being racist hurts people. That's a good but most importantly, a real example.

    • @pats3212
      @pats3212 Před rokem +4

      Political correctness isnt the problem in itself, it's the misuse of it

  • @jwnj9716
    @jwnj9716 Před 4 lety +389

    When guys like Cameron & Del Toro do a sequel, finish, you can't beat it. It should have ended with T2. I don't mind Salvation, that's the direction they should go. Why not do the future war but also add the horror elements from the first movie?

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 Před 4 lety +48

      According to Ryan Hollinger in his Terminator video, it implied that the first movie is basically a slasher film in disguise. I'm not gonna lie because that's supposed to be a terrifying. It's normal to put another element in a main genre which it's called subgenres.

    • @jwnj9716
      @jwnj9716 Před 4 lety +45

      Well he's not wrong. The Terminator's score alone is creepy with the heartbeat sound. Even when I got on VHS, it was in the slasher section.

    • @ColePhelps-cv2qh
      @ColePhelps-cv2qh Před 4 lety +5

      Cameron needs to stop.

    • @SSingh-nr8qz
      @SSingh-nr8qz Před 4 lety +16

      @@poweroffriendship2.0 I was going to write the same thing. T1 was specially a horror movie when you think about it. Yes has sci fi, but so do movies like The Thing or other scifi horror movies. To be fair, many action movies during that time were gruesome, so it would be easy to mistake this action movie's horror motivations.

    • @anarex0929
      @anarex0929 Před 4 lety +28

      They should have stuck with the salvation trilogy. Everyone wanted to see Christian Bale do a John Connor that showed what happened after the bomb fell all the way up to sending his dad back in time to knock his mom up.
      Fuck they should of finnished the TV show.
      It shows how the Terminator gets skinned put on it, and just had a lot of fan service and love that went into it. And putting the Christian Revelations theology intermixed with it was quite inventive and added to the creepyness and dread of what was to come.
      or that scene when the FBI agent actually gets to have a conversation with the Terminator and lives, with the Terminator repeating the religious line of the devil "we will see".
      It was a great show.

  • @dragonkeeper19600
    @dragonkeeper19600 Před 4 lety +3014

    "These characters in this car are CG."
    "This car right here is CG."
    "Digital sparks coming off here."
    "All the blood is digital."
    Geez, man, just make an animated movie and be done with it.

    • @nopansnogains5382
      @nopansnogains5382 Před 4 lety +125

      T2's cgi and special effects was way better then any terminator movie after

    • @nopansnogains5382
      @nopansnogains5382 Před 4 lety +90

      And I agree about the cgi tits

    • @KneelB4Bacon
      @KneelB4Bacon Před 4 lety +238

      "The writing here? All digital. It's a cut-and-paste of the script from the last movie."

    • @handleyoassbiatch
      @handleyoassbiatch Před 4 lety +12

      @@TheLexiconDevils Thumbs down but I like her body physique 😄

    • @earthfederationspaceforce9844
      @earthfederationspaceforce9844 Před 4 lety +60

      this is CG, that is CG, you are CG, I AM CG

  • @noelburland7169
    @noelburland7169 Před 2 lety +54

    I think you hit the nail on the head with your assessment of Terminator: Dark Fate.
    The biggest problem for me is the decision to "go woke" by unceremoniously killing off John Connor and replacing him with a petite, Mexican girl who no one appeared to connect with. This hair-brained decision (sadly by James Cameron, the man who created the first two films that are legendary), led to people who may have gone and seen it in cinemas to change their minds when getting wind of what they had done, resulting in the film becoming a box office bomb and effectively "terminating" the franchise for good.
    In recent years there has been a trend of replacing prominent and mostly memorable white male characters with women. Film examples other than Dark Fate are the Ghostbusters reboot and the Star Wars sequel trilogy. TV examples are Doctor Who and the Batwoman TV series (which even had the catchphrase that the suit fits better now that it's on a woman).
    I'm not trying to be sexist at all as I would rather see TV and Film content with female leads be their own, original content rather than just replacing male actors in the name of being "woke". Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor in the first two Terminator films and Sigourney Weaver as Ripley in the Alien franchise are two great examples of women who gave us legendary performances without the need to replace men who had previously done the role.
    After the box office failure of Dark Fate, which was even more of a middle finger to the franchise than Genysis was, the Terminator franchise appears dead in the water. None of the films since T2 have recaptured the atmosphere of the first two although in parts T3 and Salvation were good. The failed attempts to continue the legacy of the first two films have left people tired of it.
    There was a video game that came out the same year as Dark Fate called Terminator: Resistance which I think could be this franchise's last hope of salvaging something good from it. This game was set in the post-apocalyptic world and was focused on the end of the war where Skynet is defeated but not before sending Terminators into the past (tying it to the first two films).
    A TV or movie adaptation of this game could be the only content left in this long-running franchise, as long as they are true to the spirit of it and keep wokeness out of it.

    • @darksoul6482
      @darksoul6482 Před rokem +4

      You are not being sexist. You are being rational.
      We dont need any strong rude woke Women crap.
      All we need well written super heros. Regard any gender.
      Now, We need more white male characters now.. Everytime when I see woke female characters.. Why not create a lovable women character? It makes me vomit.

    • @danialtarki572
      @danialtarki572 Před rokem +3

      Yeah, just make new and original characters rather than replacing white males for the billionth time.
      It’s not hard to do when diversity is a thing.

  • @axiom3
    @axiom3 Před 2 lety +10

    I like Salvation, I think it's the catalyst that shows the early days of how John Connor command and lead humanity to victory.
    It's such a shame they reset EVERYTHING.

  • @xxx-pliskin-sniper-xxx8538
    @xxx-pliskin-sniper-xxx8538 Před 3 lety +192

    “You are not the mother of some man that saves the future”, you can just tell they were all trumboning each other when that was like was written.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo Před 4 lety +269

    Terminator: I'll be Back
    Everyone: We know... Unfortunately

  • @jovalleau
    @jovalleau Před 3 lety +4

    I think an interesting take, if/when they decide to have another go at it, is to bring back the action/horror film feel of the first movie. Not everything has to be over-the-top action sequences.

  • @Ben-kz2km
    @Ben-kz2km Před 2 lety +1

    OK, the NordVPN ad at the end was the best NordVPN shoutout I've seen so far

  • @kkkrevolution3307
    @kkkrevolution3307 Před 4 lety +560

    Why not just make a terminator movie of John Connor actually fighting the war.

    • @savioblanc
      @savioblanc Před 4 lety +80

      Didn't they make that? With Christian Bale?

    • @whocares427
      @whocares427 Před 4 lety +60

      Terminator: Resistance is basically the Future War movie we never got. The real Terminator 3

    • @christopherregan1654
      @christopherregan1654 Před 4 lety +41

      They kinda did that in a way with Salvation.

    • @kkkrevolution3307
      @kkkrevolution3307 Před 4 lety +33

      Salvation is okay buti not what I was expectibg i want something like in the last days of the war were they shut down skynet, wait this could be a good series muktiple episode of the war of humana vs machines.

    • @superomegaprimemk2
      @superomegaprimemk2 Před 4 lety +16

      @Den Danske Helt Salvation does fit into the lore, as its set after T3 and has John finding his father as a kid and trying to ensure his surival, while T3 was taking a lot of established ideas from the previous movie, it setup the rise of Skynet and the beginings of the war. If anything Salvation was the breath of fresh air that the series needed, get away from the time travel asspect, but the two following films rely heavily on the time travel stuff, espeically Genesis which first had a Terminator save Sarah as a child, then the first known to fans T800, Kyle traveling back, a T1000 showing up, Kyle and Sarah jumping into the future, John from the future showing up as the big bad Terminator and the time machine being the device that destorys the Terminator, thus Genesis was overloaded with Time travel and a lot of wasted potental including actors, the guy playing John in that film was dull as anything and they had a awesome actor playing hologram Skynet. Anyway, Salvation does fit into the the lore but with any time travel stories, its complex but its story is what one might consider the second to last chapter of a book, if they had made a sequel to Salvation, it could of involved a older Kyle taking on the mission to go back in time and protect John's mother, maybe after John sends his Terminator dad back in time.

  • @cardhouseproductions9538
    @cardhouseproductions9538 Před 4 lety +152

    I really liked that
    2019 this door is cg, the side rail is cg, the people in the car are cg, sparks are cg...
    1991 “Now see this helicopter flying under the over pass, now that is actually interesting. It’s a helicopter flying under an over pass.”
    “Oh that was real?”
    I love it.

    • @Chastity_Belt
      @Chastity_Belt Před 4 lety +4

      They blow up real building to film Cyberdine Systems scene...

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada Před 3 lety +2

      If you're going to hate on all movies that use CGI from this point on, you're going to hate a lot of movies.

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 Před 3 lety +11

      @@TangoNevada well I do already. most CGI looks awfull. And actors arent good at working around cgi. It look stupid AF most of the time. Make a full animation movie, whatever, but the mixed up thing is getting out of hand.

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada Před 3 lety +2

      @@v44n7 I'm not saying I disagree, but you're pushing sand uphill if you think you're going to change the inevitable.

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 Před 3 lety +4

      @@TangoNevada I am not saying I am going to change It, but I don't enjoy most movies anymore. Just a handpick per year

  • @TNHFPRODUCTIONS987
    @TNHFPRODUCTIONS987 Před rokem +2

    The Creator of the Sarah Connor Chronicles Josh Friedman wrote Terminator Dark Fate and reused a lot of the ideas from the series on the movie even ideas for the unmade 3rd season unfortunately his script had John Connor alive but the producers changed it,
    Also the creator Josh Friedman also did the short lived series Emerald City and Snowpiecer The Series and his biggest upcoming credit is Avatar 2 he finally gets to work with James Cameron himself.

  • @vollied4865
    @vollied4865 Před 2 lety +14

    I actually disagree about 1 thing in here: terminator genesys did do something new, it made John Connor the villain. The main issue is they type casted the shit out of his actor and gave it away the moment you look up the poor guys acting history.
    Genesys had the most potential to Kickstart a whole new time line where Sarah Connor is the main protag instead of John, and they casted her perfectly but the royally fucked up John and that was the biggest issue it had.
    Unlike dark fate just ripped off t1 and t2 while being WOKE af because apparently Sarah Connor wasn't woman enough for sjws.
    Also t3 wasn't a bad movie it only had bad casting and empty characters it had all the makings of a decent movie they just needed to cast someone not a stoner for John conner and actually write his wife as a goddamn character instead of an empty head with ovaries.

    • @_SP64_
      @_SP64_ Před 2 lety +1

      Seriously it could have gone T1-T2-Salvation Trilogy. None of this woke bullshit. If Salvation had better execution and the trilogy for it happened it could have wrapped up the story perfectly with the 1st one being John forming the resistance and climbing the ranks. The 2nd film would be John meeting Marcus and Kyle developing their friendship and showed the progression of the war and how John commands the Resistance with them beginning to successfully counteract Skynet. The 3rd film would be the Final Offensive with Skynet beginning to collapse, but having one card up its sleeve with the T-800 taken from the factory and given the mission to kill Sarah with John finding out and sending Kyle to protect Sarah in 1984 and thus connecting all the films.

    • @no1up
      @no1up Před 11 měsíci

      The, the girl they got to play Sarah was a butter faced, little kitten.. Look at sarah in T2 and tell me they the same?

  • @behzadmirmozaffari2563
    @behzadmirmozaffari2563 Před 3 lety +220

    Compared to this garbage, Salvation was a timeless masterpiece!

  • @Xenadroid
    @Xenadroid Před 3 lety +331

    They should remake salvation where this time it shows how john actually formed the human resistance and how he actually was able to send Kyle Reese back in time and should explore the relationship between the characters

    • @jimbowlan5804
      @jimbowlan5804 Před 3 lety +19

      Salvation was ok but to me it wasn’t the future war I imagined I feel like dawn of fate game would have made a better movie because I loved how they showed Kyle Reese as he battles his way to the time displacement machine and the ending is the terminator and him going through time

    • @Eternaldarkness3166
      @Eternaldarkness3166 Před 3 lety +25

      They could even turn the entire future war into a Netflix series

    • @Bankable2790
      @Bankable2790 Před 3 lety +3

      I honestly can’t remember if any of the sequels covers this because they are all so God awful I’ve tried to forget them as best as possible. But yeah, I would love to relationship between John, Kyle Reese, and Sarah

    • @DmytroBogdan
      @DmytroBogdan Před 3 lety +4

      Except now its Jane Connor

    • @Xenadroid
      @Xenadroid Před 3 lety +1

      @@DmytroBogdan lmao

  • @aaronskuse2207
    @aaronskuse2207 Před 3 lety +2

    What’s the best sequel for T2?
    Terminator: Resistance. An Incredible budget game and hot damn the theme remix sends chills down my spine. Resistance only acknowledges the first 2 films made, the original design for adult John Conner is used, tons of Easter eggs, Resistance is the true Terminator 3.

  • @Fiery891
    @Fiery891 Před 2 lety +2

    Best Terminator sequel (since 2) was the game Terminator Resistance and it was no masterpiece but got core values of the franchise right.

  • @johnweber4577
    @johnweber4577 Před 4 lety +348

    “So you destroy the legacy of Terminator 2, just to redo Terminator 2 in a way that is not even half as great.”
    Which is exactly what the Star Wars sequels wound up doing as well.

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 Před 3 lety +3

      Genesys was a redo of T1 and T2 before this

    • @johnweber4577
      @johnweber4577 Před 3 lety +5

      @Blizzard Gaming In colloquial terms “as well” means doing the “same as” not “is good”. I was saying that the Star Wars sequels fumbled the franchise legacy just as much as Dark Fate did fit its own.

    • @Thegamer10113
      @Thegamer10113 Před 3 lety +2

      @@luichinplaystation610 yeah but it drops that after the 15 minute nostalgic intro and takes on a whole new shitshow

    • @classicgalactica5879
      @classicgalactica5879 Před 3 lety

      Same with the Jurassic Park franchise. The second movie wrapped things up beautifully. That should have been it.

    • @lalkiran1950
      @lalkiran1950 Před 3 lety +1

      @@classicgalactica5879 jurrassic park itself isn't a franchise
      There was no franchise for jurrassic park
      It had only one movie and others were fanfiction

  • @josegregoriobencomogomez4958

    "Runs like a scary Tom Cruise."
    ... is there any other kind of Tom Cruise?

    • @bone8352
      @bone8352 Před 3 lety +1

      You clearly haven't seen Legend.

    • @josegregoriobencomogomez4958
      @josegregoriobencomogomez4958 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bone8352 Ah, but that's a character played by Tom Cruise. I'm talking about Tom Cruise himself.

    • @bone8352
      @bone8352 Před 3 lety +1

      @@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 Yeah he may just sacrifice you to his lord and savior Xenu lol.

    • @DiegOismoCh
      @DiegOismoCh Před 3 lety +1

      @@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 he's cool

    • @Eliqueme
      @Eliqueme Před 3 lety

      Look up Tiny Tom Cruise ( Definitely R e a l )

  • @kinetsievarvenfloot1237
    @kinetsievarvenfloot1237 Před rokem +3

    "And this whole movie ... right here ... is not really here."
    -- Tim Miller, 2019.

  • @absosa493
    @absosa493 Před 3 lety +5

    I was ready to hear 'fetch me their souls' 😂 0:00

  • @jayhartRIC
    @jayhartRIC Před 4 lety +45

    This is basically the same way I felt about The Force Awakens

    • @alexnorth3393
      @alexnorth3393 Před 4 lety +2

      Force Awakens was good.

    • @orkinho1
      @orkinho1 Před 4 lety +9

      @@alexnorth3393 If you have a low IQ

    • @mar10ssj1
      @mar10ssj1 Před 4 lety +1

      Take any classic property and the sentiment remains the same. Terminator, Robocop, Star Wars, Star Trek, Tron, Predator, Alien, the list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and you get the idea.

  • @ShopperKungVtuber
    @ShopperKungVtuber Před 4 lety +473

    man can't wait for next movie they kill this main girl and have the next new future resistant and the new robot send back in time to kill him/her and new robot to protect him/her again....

    • @gaberio334
      @gaberio334 Před 3 lety +13

      ShopperKung TVplay what if there wasn’t a protective terminator sent back from the future? What if the good guys in the future weren’t able to send someone to help defend the main protagonist in the present. How long would the main character in the present last against a single terminator? Just a thought.

    • @spud2063
      @spud2063 Před 3 lety +12

      @@gaberio334 not very long unless they are gonna mary sue their way thru it all.

    • @blamcheese
      @blamcheese Před 3 lety +24

      Nah they probably keep this main girl and transform her into a Mary Sue trans superhero who prefers to be non binary and will wage war with modern men

    • @Aemond2024
      @Aemond2024 Před 3 lety +9

      whats the next main gonna be? A gay trans black kid in a wheelchair?

    • @tiffanyswartz1064
      @tiffanyswartz1064 Před 3 lety

      Or a remake to the first movie would be nice

  • @TechCom101
    @TechCom101 Před 3 lety +2

    Thankfully, I'm doing a better sequel to Terminator 2...in the form of a crossover with Resident Evil in a fan-video series titled Resident Evil: Terminated. Prologue & Chapter 1 are already posted with Chapter 2 coming soon.

  • @dennisk5054
    @dennisk5054 Před 3 lety +3

    In 90s when I was in school someone told me that there is Terminator 3, where they built helicopter from the metal they melted both terminators. Arnie came from the right wing and bad one came from the left wing and they were trying to find John to save/kill accordingly.
    I thought it was dumb, but now I admit that guy's creativity... compared to movies after T2.

  • @ReverendChance
    @ReverendChance Před 3 lety +449

    It breaks my heart seeing everything going from TRUE action, stunts and practical effects to lifeless digital effects...

    • @deonduplessis4126
      @deonduplessis4126 Před 3 lety +30

      Same. CGI has no soul and removes the spectacle I once loved about American movies.

    • @RamBam3000
      @RamBam3000 Před 3 lety +20

      And mine.... we’ve gone from “How can we best film this sequence in camera?” to “Hey ma! Look what I can do on *my* computer! Herp derp derp!” And I’d also argue that didn’t take very long.

    • @Artsy_arod
      @Artsy_arod Před 3 lety +9

      Btw the sledge scene in the factory was a mix of practical and special and they matched the actor being hit and her contacting it with the sledge , the scene where he makes the bag a gun was the use of making the gun practical then using a cgi bag over it . Js not all their cgi tricks were lifeless but creative .

    • @Profect72
      @Profect72 Před 3 lety +10

      And people used to make fun of bollywood cgi

    • @gvd72
      @gvd72 Před 3 lety +1

      Ironic considering one of the themes of T2 being Arnie becoming more and more human-like

  • @notahotshot
    @notahotshot Před 3 lety +111

    When I watched this movie, five minutes in I thought, "Why didn't I just watch T2?" It's literally like a poorly remastered video game, where all they did was change the textures, and called it a new game.

  • @Peterski
    @Peterski Před 3 lety +2

    Probably the best sponsor segway ever :-)

  • @karanvirkooner1993
    @karanvirkooner1993 Před 3 lety +1

    the best form of consolation and comfort I get is being told that Terminator:Dark Fate(Ass Face) and Terminator:Genisys doesn’t exist i can love with that reassurance

  • @klouddsurferful
    @klouddsurferful Před 3 lety +836

    The studio's biggest mistake was taking John Connor completely out of the story. The main protagonist should have been his daughter, having Sarah go from being a bad*ss mother to being a bad*ss overprotective grandmother. She (John's daughter) would have represented a lingering legacy, and one who seeks to fill her father's shoes while combating a new threat. It would have kept the story effectively emotional and domestic, like the first sequel rather than turning it into some hollow action adventure.
    Edit/Update: Wow, thanks for reading guys, and thanks for all the likes!

    • @Anand_Ilangovan
      @Anand_Ilangovan Před 3 lety +67

      Mind Blowing!!! That is exactly the correct route the franchise should have taken, instead this movie became the dumbest among the three reboots!!! (When you think about it, T3 and T5 are actually reboots too, and all reboots of the terminator franchise have failed)

    • @JunayedMahin
      @JunayedMahin Před 3 lety +22

      id be happy if they just did a jhon connor saves his family from a single terminator . But demolishing Greatness(T2) that u cant never touch is just awful it pisses me off .

    • @shr1mpsush1
      @shr1mpsush1 Před 3 lety +57

      Why in the actual fuck can a guy in the CZcams Comments section come up with a better premise for a Terminator movie than Hollywood screenwriters?

    • @Anand_Ilangovan
      @Anand_Ilangovan Před 3 lety +25

      @@shr1mpsush1 Hollywood cares only about money, not people's opinions

    • @tiffanyswartz1064
      @tiffanyswartz1064 Před 3 lety +3

      We all know in like 10 or so years there is probably going to be another sequel or reboot or remake

  • @tomh9553
    @tomh9553 Před 4 lety +197

    "Runs like a scary Tom Cruise"

    • @TheBatbike
      @TheBatbike Před 4 lety +8

      So tom cruise?

    • @eltornado7777
      @eltornado7777 Před 4 lety +15

      Tom Cruise as a Terminator could be so terrifying 😂

    • @ragekid2423
      @ragekid2423 Před 4 lety

      Tom H as soon as he said that ideas this comment 😂

    • @Spiral-Mark
      @Spiral-Mark Před 4 lety +5

      Terminator Tom Cruise doesn't run from danger, he is the danger

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Před 4 lety +1

      Make Tom Cruise a Terminator.

  • @ivanthehighman177
    @ivanthehighman177 Před rokem +1

    13:32 dude, your ideas for a good next terminator are amazing.

  • @raulaguilargomez8608
    @raulaguilargomez8608 Před 3 lety +1

    I love all the mad Bale references, yhem are so well placed on the video you almost kill me on each one

  • @Ragnarok8807
    @Ragnarok8807 Před 4 lety +198

    "You think you're human?"
    "I am human"
    "OH GOOOOOD FOR YOU!!"
    I don't know why but that made me laugh for a good thirty seconds.

    • @mikeliessmann2490
      @mikeliessmann2490 Před 3 lety +5

      I did too. Then, I had to pause a scroll down to make sure I wasn't alone.

  • @pumpkinsdontcry
    @pumpkinsdontcry Před 3 lety +126

    Canon for me is Terminator 1, Terminator 2 and Terminator Resistance.

    • @Eternaldarkness3166
      @Eternaldarkness3166 Před 3 lety +11

      Terminator (2) 3d: Battle Against time, can't forget about that one either.

    • @seenl6eight258
      @seenl6eight258 Před 2 lety +8

      @@HelghastStalker it’s pretty damn sad how a video game based on a movie is better than it

    • @nameless0510
      @nameless0510 Před 2 lety +5

      the canon in my head is terminator salvation then terminator 1 and lastly terminator 2

    • @Space_Man909
      @Space_Man909 Před 2 lety

      Same

    • @ebaugh7320
      @ebaugh7320 Před 2 lety

      That's canon for evryone

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 Před 2 lety +1

    I can imagine the slight possibility maybe a few years from now it might be possible to reboot the (TERMINATOR) franchise someday.

  • @slavnat8446
    @slavnat8446 Před 3 lety +74

    So Terminator 2, but with feminism being shoved down our throats.

    • @shanethrelfall416
      @shanethrelfall416 Před 3 lety +12

      Reminds me of Ghostbusters 2016

    • @Salieri01
      @Salieri01 Před 3 lety +6

      @@shanethrelfall416 reminds me of every movie reboot attempt that failed

    • @shanethrelfall416
      @shanethrelfall416 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Salieri01 Sooooooooooo True!

    • @freedom1667
      @freedom1667 Před 3 lety +3

      When did they shove feminism down our throats with this movie? Them being female didn't play any role in this movie 👁️👄👁️.

    • @slavnat8446
      @slavnat8446 Před 3 lety +6

      @@freedom1667 I hope this is sarcasm hahaha

  • @kyzendelaguia1063
    @kyzendelaguia1063 Před 4 lety +73

    Tim Miller: "This is all cg, this isn't really there, this is cg, this is cg."
    Everyone: "Ya that's not impressive Tim."

    • @turbosprite2437
      @turbosprite2437 Před 4 lety +3

      That why terminator 2 is the best most of it is all practical effects

    • @f11122
      @f11122 Před 4 lety +5

      I wish Tim Miller was CG.

    • @kyzendelaguia1063
      @kyzendelaguia1063 Před 4 lety

      @European Colonist sorry Sonny, I won't ever get how uncanny valley monstrosities are better than making animatronics and miniatures that bring imagination to reality. I'm just an old man

  • @Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE
    @Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE Před 4 lety +202

    When Disney is basically doing the same thing with the Star Wars movies is worrying. I really don't want them to pull a Terminator to the point where the damage of it's legacy is irreversi- Oh wait....

    • @SerpentInside
      @SerpentInside Před 4 lety +3

      Everyone in the corrupt movie buisness are doing the same shit. Getting subsidies to create destruction of the previous franchise. Cars 3 is a disney movie, destroying the Cars 2 and Cars 1 movies. But its like with the Terminator movies, there are no other Cars movie than Cars 1 and Cars 2.

    • @ewokshoterz
      @ewokshoterz Před 4 lety +3

      @@SerpentInside you really into cars 1 & 2 or something dude?

    • @chasgalaxy6721
      @chasgalaxy6721 Před 4 lety +3

      @@GLARebel it hurts, it really hurts... both spiritually and mentally 😭

    • @Elementalism
      @Elementalism Před 4 lety +3

      They already have. Star wars is right behind terminator in mismanaged franchises. 3 solid movies followed by 8 bleh to horrible movies.

    • @dasmorbo3508
      @dasmorbo3508 Před 4 lety +4

      You have to make that mental transition to this: *every good franchise of before 2000 ended after movie number two* - Aliens, Terminator 2, Die Hard 2, etc. Also every remake of this century of a movie of last century doesn't exist. And Trilogies are exactly that - follow ups don't exist either. ;D

  • @ferntin4479
    @ferntin4479 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Imagine a teen or kid who's never seen the older movies and this is their first Terminator movie they might end up liking it.

  • @tetsujin_144
    @tetsujin_144 Před 3 lety +2

    When I saw this movie, my problems with it really had nothing to do with the fact that it rehashed T2. I think there were various bits and pieces along the way I wasn't really impressed by, and others that I was (like while the new terminator thing is basically a rehash of the T-1000 and T-X, I like the visual execution of this terminator - the way the liquid metal stuff moves and forms structures - basically better execution of the concept than the blobby environment-reflecting chrome CG of the original T-1000) I don't remember everything along the way that bugged me but there were a few key moments I guess:
    1: The reveal that Dani, not an unborn child of hers, was the savior, wasn't a bad idea but they played it out like it was a super-clever concept and no way was the audience gonna guess this was the case. Basically the writers were not nearly as clever as they thought they were with this one. I know people look at this aspect of the movie and go to the "get woke go broke" kind of narrative but for me the problem wasn't that Dani was the hero of the future or that a young woman who hadn't done much to earn that role previously could attain it in the future (Sarah in T1 is the closest parallel, she lived an idle life and after facing a Terminator she spent the rest of her life studying badassery) - for me it was strictly the fact that they came at it like they were being super-clever, when really it was the most basic of twists, especially in a franchise (and a movie) that includes post-T1 Sarah Connor.
    2: Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger are old as fuck and have no business being in action movies at this point. If they wanted to make a new Terminator movie with those two they should have done it 10-20 years ago.
    3: Terminator movies are kind of like survival horror. Evade the terminator, shoot the terminator, run like hell away from the terminator. But at the end of Dark Fate they're tossing around the idea of making a "kill box" to get the Terminator - but instead Dani's just like "this here is our kill box" and they stand around waiting for the Terminator to show up, and then have a superhero movie-style choreographed fight sequence with it - which isn't really a "kill box" anymore it's just a fight.
    I didn't really regret going to see the movie but I did leave feeling kind of disappointed.

  • @petersaturday
    @petersaturday Před 4 lety +79

    I can't stand this whole "Force Awakens" style spin on all these remakes disguised as "sequels"....please Hollywood just STOP!

    • @charliekk3377
      @charliekk3377 Před 4 lety +2

      The only bright side is at least dark fate failed miserably at the box office may now Hollywood will get it thru their thick skulls what they make is trash

    • @petersaturday
      @petersaturday Před 4 lety +2

      @@charliekk3377 true! I also think the Star Wars sequel trilogy was a failure, the first final installment should have been the most profitable, like Endgame, it showed people were not as invested in the story as it wejt to its conclusion. It should have been so epic, had the Original characters in equally important roles all the way to the end. Damn what could have been, a true shame..

  • @weathforjr
    @weathforjr Před 4 lety +101

    This was fun. Other reviewers have done "this film is bad" to death; You, have done "why this is bad". Much more substantive.

    • @LinkMarioSamus
      @LinkMarioSamus Před 4 lety +1

      This film got vastly better reviews than the previous two Terminator films yet lots of people say it's just as bad if not worse. Just find it strange that we all act like a movie with a 70% on RT is "bad", but then again that is LOWER than both Ghostbusters 2016 and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull...
      The way I see it, critics were probably suckered in by nostalgia, since the R rating and the involvement of Linda Hamilton and James Cameron probably made them nostalgic for the old Terminator films and colored their view of it. Additionally, Genisys came out right after Mad Max: Fury Road while this film didn't have a comparable juggernaut to deal with, plus to them the sheer fact it was rated R and not PG-13 changed their view drastically because they just wrote Genisys off as another tentpole blockbuster by comparison. See: Rise of Skywalker got much worse reviews than this movie yet seems to have gone at least somewhat better with audiences.

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 Před 4 lety +5

      LinkMarioSamus I attribute the high rating of this movie partially to the fact that it had way less audience. The people watching it wanted to see this movie, so they rated it high, while the rest stayed at home. And as Filmento shows, it is not a bad movie thanks to being a remake of a really great movie. It’s main flaws are that we have already seen the superior version and that it is an insult to the fans of that superior version. Just this time the fans stayed at home. Hell, every single movie from the franchise did better then this new movie, showing that the fans clearly anticipated correctly what was in store. Yes, I admit, this one is the one Terminator movie I did not watch ... I was simply not willing to watch it before somebody like Filmento would show me that it would be worth to watch ... so yeah, not going to watch it.

    • @LinkMarioSamus
      @LinkMarioSamus Před 4 lety

      David Gantenbein I was referring to the critics, not audiences. But good point.

    • @Ugenesis2010
      @Ugenesis2010 Před 4 lety +1

      @@LinkMarioSamus I see your point but tbh alot of ppl don't take Rotton Tomatoes seriously is because some of the movies critic scores are vastly different then the audience score and when you look as to why it is then you can see the critics biasness. For example alot of ppl from a huge margin thought the new Dave Chappelle netflix special was really good, however the critic score, scored it extremely low. When you look into why you can't help but notice that Dave Chappelle pretty much called out PC culture so they almost couldn't rate it high for fear of going against their bias. Another example is Captain Marvel which most agreed was an okay movie at best, yet critics scored it as an amazing movie, because again personal bias and agenda pushing. Heck they gave Ghost busters 2016 a 74 percent, when most agreed that it was an objectively bad movie with the audience score being 50 percent (now me personally i don't think that movie was the worst thing I ever seen but it wasn't really good either.) I can go on.

    • @kurokoro
      @kurokoro Před 4 lety

      I did like this movie, I mean is not T2 good but its better than the rest for me, I would say my order would be T2,T1,TDarkfate,Tgenysis,T4Salvation and T3.

  • @brokenhalo2001
    @brokenhalo2001 Před 2 lety +3

    lol that line thou. YoU ArE NoT tHe mOtHer OF SOME MAN,YOU are the FUTURE. Very subtle guys well done, ffs.

  • @WillFons
    @WillFons Před 3 lety +1

    That was the best integration of a sponsor that I've ever seen in a youtube video haha well done

  • @bumpinjeep
    @bumpinjeep Před 4 lety +281

    Here's the real question, if Skynet no longer existed, who sent the terminator that killed John Connor? This movie makes literally zero sense.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 4 lety +136

    Terminator: Resistance is the best thing that ever came out of the franchise these past few years.

    • @jknetwork6211
      @jknetwork6211 Před 4 lety +16

      The 225677th Fragment of the Man-Emperor of Mankind and don’t forget the terminator dlc for mortal kombat 11

    • @anon9740
      @anon9740 Před 4 lety +2

      The arcade game or the film lol

    • @craig9180
      @craig9180 Před 4 lety +1

      The 225677th Fragment of the Man-Emperor of Mankind - that ending was amazing!

    • @raven22at
      @raven22at Před 4 lety

      Jacob Rivers

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon Před 4 lety

      No... everything after T2 is bullshit

  • @jerevirvalo1799
    @jerevirvalo1799 Před 2 lety +1

    Best sponsor talk ever. First time im not skipping sponsor part XD

  • @tekkadagger
    @tekkadagger Před 3 lety

    i love the video and also how you did the sponsor. You got my suscription

  • @XfaN888
    @XfaN888 Před 4 lety +144

    killing conor at the begining was hilarious they wiped out whole purpose of first two movies xd

    • @No_OneV
      @No_OneV Před 4 lety +10

      I wonder if anyone walked out the theatre after seeing that lol

    • @XfaN888
      @XfaN888 Před 4 lety +8

      @@No_OneV that would have been geniun reaction tho

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada Před 3 lety +1

      I thought it was awesome - The fact that no one considered Skynet sent more than one Terminator. I didn't consider it until I saw the movie. Once I did, I was like, well Duh, that makes total sense. it's Sucks for the Kid playing John (really short screen time) but I didn't have a problem with it.

    • @scorpixel1866
      @scorpixel1866 Před 3 lety +16

      @@TangoNevada Would you happen to like the Disney SW trilogy and TLO2 as well? Just wondering

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada Před 3 lety

      ​@@scorpixel1866 So is SW Star Wars? I didn't like the 3 that had what his face as a Young Darth Vader. Mostly because they were shitty movies the relied on CGI and had no real serious story beyond that. if you are talking about other SW's movies let me know which ones. As far as TLO2. I won't know until I play it. Once I do, I might hate it or like it. I usually don't play any game when it first comes out. I wait until I can get a used copy for $30.00. What's your issue with TLO2? Have you played it? Does it Suck? Should I save my money?

  • @ladyluna457
    @ladyluna457 Před 4 lety +827

    Dear Hollywood: we latinos loved iconic white characters like John Connor. If you want to be progressive, them make new originals characters for us. (The mexinator was cool though...)

    • @Zerirs_Archive
      @Zerirs_Archive Před 4 lety +85

      South American here and I agree, we grew up watching Terminator, Lethal weapon, Rambo, and a lot of movies with Arnold, Stallone and Mel.

    • @smuglord5057
      @smuglord5057 Před 4 lety +92

      And when its a new character their personality is their race/gender/sexuality.

    • @thenewyoutuber4798
      @thenewyoutuber4798 Před 4 lety +8

      They did make original characters. You said that like John Connor was race swiped

    • @theALTF4
      @theALTF4 Před 4 lety +7

      wowowowowowoooooowwwww
      dont u see hermano u r being guite guashed and manipulated by the guite elits...u dont know this but u are being a tuul for de patriarshe... something-something...unconsicios ̶B̶S̶ guait bias..shmomting... ur wrong bc u dont alienate with us and that makes u wrong
      jk, but i agree with you, if i want kick ass representation, gimme guddang EL TIGRE! or el libro de la vida! those series ROCKED! or jsut make cool likeable characters that we can relate despite their diference to us.
      (heck! i take bumblebee man over this)

    • @Magnet_Chaos
      @Magnet_Chaos Před 4 lety +39

      @@thenewyoutuber4798
      You are right. John Connor was race swiped AND gender swiped.

  • @dannytsunmusic
    @dannytsunmusic Před 3 lety

    This is excellent!! Great video. Couldn't have said it all better myself

  • @jh6025
    @jh6025 Před 2 lety

    Wonderfully put-I agree with everything.

  • @Unsujetoquecomenta
    @Unsujetoquecomenta Před 4 lety +51

    The Director and James cameron in 2019:
    The blood is CG!!!!
    The cars are CG!!!!
    The sparks are CG!!!!
    All is CG!!!!
    James cameron in 1991:
    What about, a chopper under a bringe!!!!

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 Před 4 lety +83

    _"HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!!!"_
    *~ said by a cyborg action hero with cool shades and an Austrian accent*

  • @mariopuzo3361
    @mariopuzo3361 Před 2 lety

    Filmento always putting the sponsor stuff at the end of the video, like a true gentleman