Thank you for this video. I had two hear aid test with two different companies. So now I’m doing my homework on which one I decided on as well as check with my insurance company. Thank you for these five questions and your video.
Audiologist practices, unless their patient appointment are covered by healthcare system including Medicare, are going to operate in a manner that extracts as much money from the patient pockets as they can. Addressing HA issue, fitting and app usage in as many appointments as possible so the patient is paying more and more, even after the expensive HA and programming is done.
Dr. Cliff, Cannot thank you enough! I watch your videos a lot and not sure how I missed this one! I live in California and wish I could come and visit you in Arizona. The passion you have to help us hear better is palpable!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!👏🏽👏🏽
The problem is that when you ask even one of your Dr. Cliff list of local best practices audiologist whether they follow with these practices and centered-patient needs offered, no audiologist is saying, no we do not, sorry. All audiologist offices I have visited pretend to follow with best practices but nobody follow with all practices, neither offer a centered on patient needs approach. What they care mostly is to pass you through the basic practices, do some not personalized exactly fitting and are in hurry to send you home. If you want more attention during the first visit they are still sending you home and if scheduling a new appointment as an excuse implying they will help you maybe further after you pay more. No personal, patient-centered help and you know that?
I NEEDED to see this video today. I think I fell into a rabbit hole of a Audiologist that isn't really following best practice. A month into a new Oticon Real 1 and she's not really helping me deal with it. Seeing this video explains it all. So now o need to start over before my trail period is over. Thank you Dr Cliff for telling us what to look for.
I had a hearing test done by an audiologist who didn’t have a sound booth. The ear pieces were tight in my ear and he had me raise my hand when I heard a beep. So far so good. Then he wanted me to repeat the words he said and I told him before he started that his voice was echoing and hard to understand. He said it was okay and he spoke more directly into the microphone which help some and he kept going. I still didn’t hear him well and several words I couldn’t understand and repeat. I have never heard of no sound booth testing before. Is this a legitimate test? Has anyone else had this type of testing experience before?
Everything in your video is absolutely true. I looked all over San Antonio Texas for an audiologist. Most of them didn’t know what best practices were or what real ear measurement was. Had to explain the process to them. Luckily, I found acro audiology on your website and I have an appointment with them.
We also ask a question who would accompany you for an appointment.This is because we found at times we get valuable input from loved ones accompanying them
thanks for another good video, I had my ears checked out 7/18 at the VA some hearing loss but not too much and I get my new phonak lumity hearing aids on 8/17 she stayed in the room for 5 minutes answering my question so I can decide which of the 5 hearing aids I should get
Thanks for this video! New to needing hearing aids...been using AirPods Pro the past 2 years. It's so confusing and honestly very shady out there in the HA world. Being 52, I've also seen blatant abuse / discrimination from these supposed "care professionals" with one audiologist stating "Gee, thanks for depressing me before my lunch" - when she saw my amount of hearing loss at 52 (She is in her mid 40's).
My husband has worn hearing aids for 4 years with very great heart hearing. We have loved them, but they are no faring very well 7:20 😅 7:28 😂😢😮😮😅😊😅😅😮😮
HMMM Best Practice now im confused Im a disabled vet and I go to the V A in mpls and i know that you deal with one of audiologist from Mpls V A and im struggeling with my hearing aids they NEVER did Best Practice I have been back to the V A to adjust or fix and I still have problems Im afraid to go back because they think i make up these problems and I give up Why doesnt the folks at V A do a Best Practice? Can you help me out and tell me why?
Is Best Practices a term used in the hearing care business or is that something you developed that they may not recognize? Is there a more generic way to ask the question like Do you have a printed procedure list...or something like that.
I recently returned some Oticon Real aids during the trial period because I had no faith at all the audiologist had programmed them properly, or would any other brands I might try, or if she had even reduced their settings to minimize my chances of returning them. I now have less trust in audiologists and it was a non-refundable $350 mistake. While I haven't yet tried another audiologist, presume this happened because I didn't look for "best practices" (or at least REM). What a bad experience.
Thank you for your comment - sad that you are not alone. I trialed the Oticon 1 for 3 weeks and was convinced that they were not programmed properly because the only program that gave me reasonably accurate overall hearing was "Music", and of course you can't edit the program in any way without returning to the audiologist. The Oticon did a great job of passing environmental sounds - bird chirps, cat meows - and a great job dealing with wind noise, but the programs (other than Music) were not nearly as good as on my 4 year old Costco ReSounds. They should have been substantially better, or at least a real-ear measurement performed to show me how the programs were tuned properly. That was not done. The second pair I trialed - The Phonak - immediately had a charger problem and screechy programs all-around. The audiologist said she would call me when a replacement pair arrived. Never heard back from her.
Only 60 miles? Considering optimization of hearing aids takes only a few in-office visits, and there is virtual care available now, I wouldn't see that as a barrier at all.
Those I know with hearing aids seem to need lots of adjustments/repairs making 60 miles a burden to traverse. (Try that in the upper midwest in January... ). And making finding a good dealer a MUST kinda rules out online sellers, no? No Jabra for you, big fella! Little wonder many (most?) hearing aids don't end up in the night stand with spouses fuming.
Honestly I think the worst ones are the corporately owned ones miracle ear and hearing life because they only dispense about 2 different brands in some cases not the best brands either
Thank you for this information. I was walking through Sam's Club with my grandma and she got roped into a salesman who offered a product that would save her $1800. I'm still not 100% sure that we will not go with that, but I am significantly more skeptical now. He definitely had dou...y sales pitch vibes and that's a massive red flag to me.
This question is off-topic. Why are several brands of hearing aids sold by the same manufacturer? For example, Demant sells Oticon, Bernafon, Sonic and Philips. Are these hearing aids the same or markedly different? Why would a manufacturer sell competing products?
I started to investigate hearing aids and this video that this is a high profit margine industry given the aggressive marketing practices… You cannot explain me why mass produced pieces of electronics have to cost $3000 - $7000 per pair! I bet there is a 1000% margine on this product between MGF and Retailer..
Are there any devices that can be programmed for musicians as for both speech and music? If so, how? Ive always had separate settings for music but was always wondering if theres any way to take it into 1 program
This is my biggest fear in using hearing aids. As a musician, I fear that my $8,000 acoustic guitar will sound like it's coming from an old telephone speaker in the pursuit of speech clarity. I suppose I can always remove the hearing aids when playing music. Not an ideal solution.
Hi DrCliffAud, do you have your own hearing aid store that i can buy and be shipped here in Philippines? I cant find recommended or good hearing aids here and sometimes way too expensive amazon or ebay has expensive shipping
Wow! Is that guy good and does seem genuine. Wish he was closer!
Thank you for this video. I had two hear aid test with two different companies. So now I’m doing my homework on which one I decided on as well as check with my insurance company. Thank you for these five questions and your video.
Audiologist practices, unless their patient appointment are covered by healthcare system including Medicare, are going to operate in a manner that extracts as much money from the patient pockets as they can. Addressing HA issue, fitting and app usage in as many appointments as possible so the patient is paying more and more, even after the expensive HA and programming is done.
Dr. Cliff,
Cannot thank you enough! I watch your videos a lot and not sure how I missed this one!
I live in California and wish I could come and visit you in Arizona. The passion you have to help us hear better is palpable!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!👏🏽👏🏽
The problem is that when you ask even one of your Dr. Cliff list of local best practices audiologist whether they follow with these practices and centered-patient needs offered, no audiologist is saying, no we do not, sorry. All audiologist offices I have visited pretend to follow with best practices but nobody follow with all practices, neither offer a centered on patient needs approach. What they care mostly is to pass you through the basic practices, do some not personalized exactly fitting and are in hurry to send you home. If you want more attention during the first visit they are still sending you home and if scheduling a new appointment as an excuse implying they will help you maybe further after you pay more. No personal, patient-centered help and you know that?
I NEEDED to see this video today. I think I fell into a rabbit hole of a Audiologist that isn't really following best practice. A month into a new Oticon Real 1 and she's not really helping me deal with it.
Seeing this video explains it all. So now o need to start over before my trail period is over. Thank you Dr Cliff for telling us what to look for.
“Living in a van down by the river” Love It!!
I had a hearing test done by an audiologist who didn’t have a sound booth. The ear pieces were tight in my ear and he had me raise my hand when I heard a beep. So far so good. Then he wanted me to repeat the words he said and I told him before he started that his voice was echoing and hard to understand. He said it was okay and he spoke more directly into the microphone which help some and he kept going. I still didn’t hear him well and several words I couldn’t understand and repeat. I have never heard of no sound booth testing before. Is this a legitimate test? Has anyone else had this type of testing experience before?
Everything in your video is absolutely true. I looked all over San Antonio Texas for an audiologist. Most of them didn’t know what best practices were or what real ear measurement was. Had to explain the process to them. Luckily, I found acro audiology on your website and I have an appointment with them.
Excellent video! Everything I need to know before finding the right place and stay away from the charlatans!
Your 5 questions would seem to rule out Costco, online and otc hearing aids as acceptable options.
We also ask a question who would accompany you for an appointment.This is because we found at times we get valuable input from loved ones accompanying them
thanks for another good video, I had my ears checked out 7/18 at the VA some hearing loss but not too much and I get my new phonak lumity hearing aids on 8/17 she stayed in the room for 5 minutes answering my question so I can decide which of the 5 hearing aids I should get
Thanks for this video! New to needing hearing aids...been using AirPods Pro the past 2 years. It's so confusing and honestly very shady out there in the HA world. Being 52, I've also seen blatant abuse / discrimination from these supposed "care professionals" with one audiologist stating "Gee, thanks for depressing me before my lunch" - when she saw my amount of hearing loss at 52 (She is in her mid 40's).
My husband has worn hearing aids for 4 years with very great heart hearing. We have loved them, but they are no faring very well 7:20 😅 7:28 😂😢😮😮😅😊😅😅😮😮
well she's not in there to make her own life easier she's there to make your life easier with fitting you with the right hearing aids that you need
@@mmarjisrExactly,.. that their job!
HMMM Best Practice now im confused Im a disabled vet and I go to the V A in mpls and i know that you deal with one of audiologist from Mpls V A and im struggeling with my hearing aids they NEVER did Best Practice I have been back to the V A to adjust or fix and I still have problems Im afraid to go back because they think i make up these problems and I give up Why doesnt the folks at V A do a Best Practice? Can you help me out and tell me why?
In the end, perhaps not finding the perfect hearing aid provider still beats nothing...
Is Best Practices a term used in the hearing care business or is that something you developed that they may not recognize? Is there a more generic way to ask the question like Do you have a printed procedure list...or something like that.
are bossa hearing adis good to buy
I recently returned some Oticon Real aids during the trial period because I had no faith at all the audiologist had programmed them properly, or would any other brands I might try, or if she had even reduced their settings to minimize my chances of returning them. I now have less trust in audiologists and it was a non-refundable $350 mistake. While I haven't yet tried another audiologist, presume this happened because I didn't look for "best practices" (or at least REM). What a bad experience.
I'm in the same situation as you. I hope I don't lose money returning mine today. 😢
Thank you for your comment - sad that you are not alone. I trialed the Oticon 1 for 3 weeks and was convinced that they were not programmed properly because the only program that gave me reasonably accurate overall hearing was "Music", and of course you can't edit the program in any way without returning to the audiologist. The Oticon did a great job of passing environmental sounds - bird chirps, cat meows - and a great job dealing with wind noise, but the programs (other than Music) were not nearly as good as on my 4 year old Costco ReSounds. They should have been substantially better, or at least a real-ear measurement performed to show me how the programs were tuned properly. That was not done. The second pair I trialed - The Phonak - immediately had a charger problem and screechy programs all-around. The audiologist said she would call me when a replacement pair arrived. Never heard back from her.
I hope you find the perfect aid for you. I'm starting over again.
@@dgangel7 Thank you, and same to you!
And what if a good hearing aid provider is 60 miles away from me?
Only 60 miles? Considering optimization of hearing aids takes only a few in-office visits, and there is virtual care available now, I wouldn't see that as a barrier at all.
Those I know with hearing aids seem to need lots of adjustments/repairs making 60 miles a burden to traverse. (Try that in the upper midwest in January... ). And making finding a good dealer a MUST kinda rules out online sellers, no? No Jabra for you, big fella! Little wonder many (most?) hearing aids don't end up in the night stand with spouses fuming.
Dr.Cliff I will be getting some new hearing aids from ReSound Nexia next Monday with both ear molds.
What Should I expect?
Honestly I think the worst ones are the corporately owned ones miracle ear and hearing life because they only dispense about 2 different brands in some cases not the best brands either
Thank you for this information. I was walking through Sam's Club with my grandma and she got roped into a salesman who offered a product that would save her $1800.
I'm still not 100% sure that we will not go with that, but I am significantly more skeptical now. He definitely had dou...y sales pitch vibes and that's a massive red flag to me.
This question is off-topic. Why are several brands of hearing aids sold by the same manufacturer? For example, Demant sells Oticon, Bernafon, Sonic and Philips. Are these hearing aids the same or markedly different? Why would a manufacturer sell competing products?
I started to investigate hearing aids and this video that this is a high profit margine industry given the aggressive marketing practices… You cannot explain me why mass produced pieces of electronics have to cost $3000 - $7000 per pair! I bet there is a 1000% margine on this product between MGF and Retailer..
Are there any devices that can be programmed for musicians as for both speech and music? If so, how? Ive always had separate settings for music but was always wondering if theres any way to take it into 1 program
This is a really great question. I emailed him a similar question, but he never responded.
This is my biggest fear in using hearing aids. As a musician, I fear that my $8,000 acoustic guitar will sound like it's coming from an old telephone speaker in the pursuit of speech clarity. I suppose I can always remove the hearing aids when playing music. Not an ideal solution.
@@26jdowns I highly recommend widex
My audiologist said I would be a bad listener ,, I said , what ?? 🚶
😂😂😂
Hi DrCliffAud, do you have your own hearing aid store that i can buy and be shipped here in Philippines?
I cant find recommended or good hearing aids here and sometimes way too expensive amazon or ebay has expensive shipping