A Biblical Critique of Joel Osteen's Teachings
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2020
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Good ol’ Joel... with his million-dollar smile and witty accent. What’s not to like? In this video, I give a fair assessment of his teachings. I start out the video by addressing my intent in examining Joel’s teachings, that I’m not out to ‘get’ him, and if I’m ‘judging’ him fairly. I then address three main issues I have with his teachings.
I do have a lot of recommendations of other videos that I’ve already done. My intent is not to ‘plug’ them, but mainly because they’re related to this topic, and I don’t want to unnecessarily repeat all the information in this video since the info is already available in others. I think they’ll be useful and helpful for your growth on this topic.
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Ma'am, you're not offending anyone here, you're singing to the choir!
♥️♥️ but she’s so smart I had to watch the whole thing!
Two men went up to church to worship. One man stood out in the open, and lifting his voice to heaven declared "oh God, I AM so grateful that I AM better than other men, even this man with low self-esteem over here." But the other man, who sat alone by himself in the corner, would not so much as open his eyes, but wept and prayed "oh God, be merciful to me, a sinner!" I tell you, truly, this second man went back home justified before God.
This!
True repent is humble oneself to God!
You are repeating what JESUS said you should maybe give HIM the credit.
John Lyon Could you not have come up with nicer way of saying that? There is enough bickering going on between believers right now. Let us be kind to one another. And if any of us feel something is important enough to warrant correction, try to do it in love.
Yes! Amen
I watched Joel Osteen every week for years, listened when I couldn’t watch, and have read a few of his books. Then I just started feeling like something wasn’t right so I prayed for God to show me His truth in His words and guide me to others that taught what I needed to learn, all of the sudden I just lost interest in JO and any book I tried to order just wouldn’t come through-for different reasons, but they just wouldn’t “order” correctly. It’s now been about 6 months and as I’m watching this video I am in shock bc God has such amazing ways to work things out and not let things work out in our lives when we’ve asked Him to show us His way! 🙏♥️
Just out of curiosity, what was the first thing that didn't "feel right"? For me, I start to suspect that when churches and followings get THAT big, it starts to become more of a business kind of thing. Apart from the "flipping tables" passages, I tend to become a bit more suspicious of people who want to sell me something.
@@cuckoophendula8211 I agree.... not all big churches are "bad", but I personally prefer smaller congregations.
I also agree how do you feel about Joyce Meyer?? I personally love her
@@nlarson8217 hello brother. Unfortunately Joye Meyer and Joel Osteen teach in very similar ways. They are both part of the new age "Word of Faith" movement that has been seeping into the church. They are both deceiving Christians and teaching them very unbiblical ideas about our Lord and Savior. They claim to be a Christian but they do not teach biblically and are leading so many people astray. If you see problems with Joel Osteen then you should notice the same patterns in the teachings of Joyce Meyer.
Have you ever heard either Osteen or Joyce Meyer talk about sin and the problem of sin in our lives, and repentance and the need for us to take up our cross everyday and follow Jesus?
Basically the kind of Christianity they teach is more motivational speaking rather than actual biblical Theology and Christianity. If they would call themselves Christian Motivational Speakers then that would be one thing and maybe that would be better, but they call themselves "pastors" and that is a huge problem.
Also another problem is that they twist the gospel in sooooo many ways. The things they teach SOUND biblical on the surface but when you really dig into the Theology you can see that it is not biblical at all.
And we have to be very discerning because even the enemy quotes scripture. Yet when the enemy quotes scripture in the Bible (see the temptations of Jesus) he quotes qctual Bible verses from the OT when speaking to Jesus in the desert, yet he takes it co.pmetely oit of context, thus changing g the foundational meaning of the verse. And that is what Osteen and Meyer do.
It is very dangerous to our relationship with God.
If you would like to talk about this more I would be happy to!
God bless you
He seems to be a glorified motivational speaker. Oprah sits on the front row of his congregation that says it all.
First of all, he is not a preacher. He is a motivational speaker.
But he's pretending to be one. So, he will be judged by God much more harshly
@tetee baxter
That much is obvious. So what in the high unholy Hell is going talking to people in a church? And why on Earth, Heaven and the nine circles of Hell is commonly associated with preachers?
Agreed
@@theresagluckhertz8064 why would he be treated by God more harshly? The guy is helping a lot of people and spreading goid psychological messages that can apply and help anyone irrespective of whether you believe in Jesus or not. Doesn't God want people to make this world a better place?
@@empathy800 because he's claiming to teach from the bible. Teachers of the bible are held to higher standard because they are guiding/misguiding the flock"
Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. 9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.
“I am” statements that leave out the great I AM...
making little false gods out of the congregation
Right. When I saw all those I AM statements, I knew immediately that his teachings are purely Satanic. Read Isaiah 14:12-17.
In Biblical times, had he said I AM - he would have been stoned to death!
That's called Me me me!!!!!🤔
The fleshly Trinity me myself and I. Or triangle. Self centered people have that agenda .
Joel is only a people pleaser, he "tickles" the ears, motivational speaker, not concerned with the afterlife.
"Your best life now" pretty much sums it up.
Didn't Osteen refuse to open his church to let those affected by the hurricane stay there? Do I remember this correctly?
Exactly. Had to give u a like on that. He tells people what he believes they want to hear and he is primary concern is not in regards to their salvation.
Itchy ears...
I know he might be a false prophet. But Proverbs 23:7. As a man thinketh, he is.
Early in my walk with Jesus, Joel’s messages were very healing and encouraging to me. As I matured in my walk, I grew hungrier for “meat” and started a more intense study of the Word. Each one of us followers of Christ must work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. Let us not stay on milk but move on to meat, as the Word instructs believers. God bless!
My story too. The preachers I started out listening to in the beginning slowly fell away as I matured. Now I am very careful which preacher I follow
I started feeling guilty because I wasn't getting my own business, or whatever he was preaching. Other than that it sounded great.
But I had a lot of deeply repressed memories dragging at me, needing to be dealt with and healed. I needed help with that.
I moved on, his stuff is so basic and so all about me me me me, and impressing people.
If it works for somebody else, okay. But listening to more conservative preachers helped me more, the whole Gospel is what we need.
Which makes u wonder why he’s not growing himself. Hmm 🤔 If new baby Christians keep coming to Christ start off with Joel and then move on as they grow. Why is he as a preacher/pastor for decades now not growing and teaching real deep or Christian doctrine.
@@zealousideal ... because he has not been born from above, he is not saved. Sad!
Amen, thank you for this encouragement
I’m just laying in the bed, got a fever so can’t go to work. Clicked on you channel sort of by accident but so far I’ve been impressed. I’m a preacher in a small baptist church in Mississippi, and I constantly tell my sheep to test the spirit. Don’t even listen to me blindly. We all need to be Acts17:11 Christians. Keep fighting the fight never let your light grow dim.
When I first came to the Lord, I would listen to Joel faithfully. He had a lot of hopeful, pick me up messages that I needed in my life being in the dark place that I was in. As I started to seek the Lord and my hunger for Him and HIS word grew. Joel's feel good messages were no longer deep enough for my soul. I needed more. The Word of God says
"12:You have been believers so long now that you ought to be teaching others. Instead, you need someone to teach you again the basic things about God’s word. You are like babies who need milk and cannot eat solid food. 13:For someone who lives on milk is still an infant and doesn’t know how to do what is right. 14:Solid food is for those who are mature, who through training have the skill to recognize the difference between right and wrong.
Hebrews 5:12-14
For me, I began to understand that Joel's preaching wasn't teaching me spiritually maturity. As Christians, at some point in our walk we need to move from being babies drinking milk to maturity, eating solid food. The entire word of God will get us there. It is our spiritual food.
God bless.
That's right, Christians today rely on others, ministers,evangelists, preachers who are motivational instead of doctrinal, prophets and those who supposivley have gifts but fool many of God's people. God's word teaches these things for instruction and guidance to grow ,to point out false teaches and false doctrine. In relying on God's word to grow with understanding we become the strong ones who believe God's word for guidance and maturity. Thank God for you brother ,God bless your walk in Christ.
Amen.
Glad that you are growing in your faith! The Holy Spirit is revealing truth to you, and you listened!
Dottie, very good! Your observations show you are growing with/towards God! Joel would make a good cheerleader/life coach for many. But being a Christian is a lot more about suffering - identifying with Jesus and carrying one's cross in life!! Not that is is only about suffering, heck no. But Joel's 'speak yourself into wealth' and talk a good game and it will come true bologna is not teaching about our Lord and what your life on earth will be like as a Christian. So I say keep studying the Word and keep a focus on our Lord Jesus because thats where your real gain will come dear!! So keep it up and I will keep you in my prayers and hopefully meet you in person some day in Heaven!! God bless you, Steve
I am with you! Joel is more like motivational speaker to me, not a Pastor who can help me to be mature in walking with the Lord.
He looks and talks like a guy you'd find in a salesman conference
My God what can be wrong with what he is teaching ? Ye shall know them by their fruits and his FRUIT ????????maybe you are a bit jealous ???
So why does he have so many followers in has been so successful
So it could be said that way and he's quite the con
@@christianburlesquehouse jealous of flat John lies false hope are you serious play Perla angry they're mad because his lies and jealousy has nothing to do with it wake up
@@ursulamullikin4723 his very Charming he's eliran he's a con man that's what they do they'll are you into that little web I told
I met a guy from his church once, and I was like, "oh so you're a Christian, too?!", And he went, "No. His church isn't really a Christian church, it's more of a positive thinking place.". I was alike, oh ...and walked away.
That's really sad...
It’s like a woman said to me recently, “I believe Jesus is the only way-for ME-but if other religions believe they can get to God through their own beliefs, then that’s what’s right for THEM. I can’t tell them that my way (faith in Jesus) is the only way, because I don’t want to judge them.”
That mindset is SO TWISTED! Surely if Jesus is the only way, He is the only way for EVERYONE, not just for those who believe the Bible.
I think she is more concerned about not having a confrontation with those people. She is scared to stand her ground or cannot give solid ground for what she believes. If you really love someone then you would tell them the truth.
You also need to be informed that every religion teaches they’re the ONLY way….. it’s not peculiar to Christianity and many times people follow the religion they’re taught. A child who was born in Mecca will believe Islam is the ONLY way all things being equal.
Amen. Jesus is the ONLY way. If we don't tell the truth to others because we don't want to "offend" them, then imo, we need to examine ourselves.
"I AM" is the Lord but his affirmations focuses on the self, the wrong I am
Joel Olsteen missed out the greatest “I AM” affirmation of all. I AM a sinner.
Exactly, something Osteen would never teach his followers, that they must admit and understand that they are a sinner who needs saved from the wrath of God...
Zeke Zeke But ‘For all have sinned and fall short .....’
@@craigcrawford6595 Amen!🙏📖🕯📜
Enrique Lavado Doesn’t Lucifer get snared in the same line of thinking? I am....I am..... Words are so important, but if they don’t line up with the will of God, they are worthless. Blessings!
I AM is God’s name - Joel using this phrase is blasphemy!!
my mom raised us baptist, she's the one who showed me joel osteen; yet she says she doesn't really like what he teaches. once i started reading the bible and listening to one of joel's podcasts everyday, his message started to feel very off to me. now i see what she means haha and i love this explanation!
Melissa I am a huge fan. Joel Olsteen does one thing at the end of each sermon. That is is encourage people to find a Bible based Church. Which I did. And yes I quickly found his teachings were not exactly Biblical. However he led me to find the biblical truth. I just wonder how many others he has brought in that way?
Thank you for this video Melissa. I'm trying to read the whole Bible in 1 year (I started in March 2020) and a large part of why I want to do this is because I don't want to be deceived by false teachers anymore. Please pray for me so that the Holy Spirit will open my eyes to what the Bible actually teachers.
Good for you! I've done that before! Praying for you! Do you have an accountability partner? That helps alot! Someone you can talk with daily or weekly or biweekly about what you are reading and making sure the other is keeping up with it? I highly suggest that if you have a friend or family member that would want to do it alongside you! Or even someone who isn't doing it who can keep you accountable! It really helped me alot to have friends keeping me accountable! Praying for you! You've got this!
sherlyn - if you need help to grasp correct biblical doctrines, John MacArthur's vids are beyond reproach...
sherlyn You are in my prayers...i took am seeking truth & a church that teaches from The Holy Bible! I live in NJ, USA.. I have not found a Scripture based in the the solid foundation of what Jesus Christ taught here on earth. Pray for me, as I study too! God Bless you ☦️🙏💜
@@warrensmith3070-Angel-of-Light becareful with JM
@Jen. Your absolutely right
Worse than a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing ...is ...
A Wolf in Shepherds Clothing
Wish I had thought of that. Well said.
The season is here and the Lord will expose them wait for it I will not say names ...The HolySpirit is merciful and We don’t see miracles today because men take the glory and enrich themselves
@@mele1617 , Balaam. Balaam was a prophet who used the word to enrich himself
Good and true words, because a wolf in sheep's clothing only destroys one sheep at a time. A Sheppard can lead to whole flock into perdition.
I did a video covering this subject, it is called WE NEED JUDGEMENT IN THE CHURCHES NOW!
The tongues of these people are like the rudder of a ship and they steer the church to Hell.
Again, that was a great comment you made, I will have to remember that. Thanks.
My channel is loaded with preaching, but I preach the Word, and reveal the true interpretations of scriptures that are not understood, or often perverted.
WOW! WELL SAID. GOD BLESS YOU!!!
I used to listen to Joel faithfully. As my faith deepened I felt he was more of a motivational speaker. Thank you for this analysis.
One GLARING lack about Joel's I-Am declarations: Christ. I am blessed, I am healthy, I am victorious IN CHRIST. The emphasis should always be Jesus Christ, because He is the source of all those blessings.
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven ✝️
John 14:6...
Amen 👏
Amen 🤗
Amen 🙏🏻
amen 🙏
I used to obsess over having "positive" thoughts and words because I believed the same once. Funny thing is, when I let all that go and trusted Christ's work on the cross to cover the imperfect me, the more positive I became.
This spoke to me
That is awesome ...I absolutely love that ❤️❤️❤️
That's exactly how it works!
wait but the Bible does talk about renewing our mind and in essence watching what the think about and not thinking about bad things (see romans 12:2, phil 4:8)...so i dont get it. Am I not supposed to be on guard of bad thoughts??
Wildflower Smile Yes I found it to be the same in my life. I finally gave it ALL to Jesus Christ and his completed work on the cross. He said “ It is finished” such assurance. He’s so Great and great is his love for you and me. Hallelujah
This video won't offend anyone who is truly saved. Keep on keepin' on, Melissa. 💚
Amazing video. I first watched the Secret in high school and followed its teachings… and then in college a friend approached me to watch Joel Osteen and described him as “it’s basically the secret sprinkled with Jesus”. At the time I loved Joel because I loved the Law of Attraction. Praise Jesus for setting me free from that deception! The biblical gospel set me free! You’re right when you say the LOA is garbage. Thank you sister! Bless you!!!
I remember when I first gave my heart to God in the 80's I followed him and a few other similar 'televangelists'. But the more I read and understood the bible in it's entirety, the more I realized I needed to "test the spirits" when listening to ANY preacher/teacher.
Joel didn’t start preaching until 1999, his father John was preaching in the 80s.
In order TO GET SAVED you must believe in the Gospel, which is:
-That Christ died for your sins, according to the scriptures
-Was buried
-And rose again the third day according to the scriptures
(1 Cor 15:1-4)
Other versus to help support the message of the gospel.
Rom 1:16; 2:16
1 Thess 4:13
1 Cor 1:17;
Eph 1:13;
Gal 1: 6-9;
2 Thess 1:6-8;
2 Cor 4:3-4
Eph 3:1-7
The list goes on and on. Don’t believe the words I tell you, but read and believe God’s word. By just saying I accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior is neglecting that Christ died on the cross for you. By believing in the gospel, your now placed in the body of Christ, which Christ is the head and “LORD” over, not just the church only but Lord over all things. He is NOW your “SAVIOR” because He died for your sins and saved you from condemnation and eternal death. Again follow and read the versus’s and let God guide you to victory. Remember to TEST ALL THINGS (including myself) and hold on to that which is true (1 Thess 5:21). Read the scriptures and get understanding and then set your heart on it.
See you soon... love you so very much:)
in the new testament when some disciples started discriminating btw Jews and gentile christians and even making some get circumsized as grown men Paul called them.out but then he also said that it is good that christ was still preached. i believe that God will turn those whole encounter his gospel thru new age preachers into genuine christ centered and biblically grounded christians. that's my new prayer for the body of Christ and the lost
Joel wasn’t preaching in the 80’s. That was probably his dad you saw. His dad died in 99 so he wanted Joel to take over and he did. He wasn’t even preaching yet until right before his dad died.
@@zealousideal their false
Every time I hear of Joel Osteen I remember his Larry King interview where he says Jesus isn't the only way. I also recall that Jesus said in Matthew 10:33 - but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
John 14:6
As long as he breathes, he has opportunity to repent. I pray for him.
He says yeah, I don't know...
@@patrickvangelder1784 Amen🙏📖🙏
I love Joel Osteen.
Let's pray for Joel. Can you just imagine the audience he has seeing a transformation, repentance and humbling? God could really use him.
Just one question. If Joel did have a Spiritual Transformation, would he have the same audience?
@@richardrice1032 hmm
@@richardrice1032 He might lose some who follow his deceptive teaching because they have itching ears to hear what he teaches. 2 Timothy 4:2-4 says, "Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables." But,Joel Osteen would gain the respect of many more if he publicly confessed that he has taught deception and explained to his audience that he led many astray. And then, if he taught the CORRECT doctrine, many would have far more respect for him. But he needs to dump that false teaching publicly and teach the true Gospel and to leave that garbage he formerly taught in the dustbin of history!
True! 🙌
Absolutely, I love your response. Amen
One of the BEST things that I have done in my entire life is to read the entire Bible. Before I started my Bible Study I prayed about and then I got the idea to write down all of the books of the Bible on a small piece of paper much like preparing to pull names at Christmas time. First I did the Old Testament, reading each book completely out of the current order of books in the Bible. Then I did the same to read the New Testament. I would pray over the folded up pieces of paper that listed the names of the books of the Bible... shook it up... and whatever Bible Book name that came out... that's what I read. I can not express what happened to me as soon as I got finished. I felt like something happened to me on the inside... then I remebered that the Word of God is ALIVE. Next, it came to me to write.. and write... and I ended up writing a book entitled: Don't Be No Fool... (Read and Study the Word of God, for YOURSELF. It is my reading and understanding of God's Word that has really blessed my life. I'm not saying that I didn't have any troubles but the Word would always pop in my head with words of strength and comfort. It was also God's Word that revealed the truth about these so called Prosperity Preachers... However, it was expected. God warned all of us about a time such as this... here are the scriptures that cover this particular situation is:
2 Timothy 4:1-4
(King James Version)
1, I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Amen.
I appreciate that you, as a teacher of apologetics, teach with humility. So many use their platform to make fun of those they are trying to refute. I’ve gotten so tired of the ego-driven apologist. How are we to be witnesses to anyone, including people like Joel Osteen, Kenneth Hagin, etc. if all we do is laugh them into a horrible eternity? Thanks for being a kind person.
I so agree
I agree, first time to watch her and I found it to be taught in humility. Praise be to God
False prophets are so full of self-deception that they must have a strong unapologetic response to their evil.
Absolutely!!! I couldn’t agree more!!! God Bless You🙏
@@cherriaydelotte8327 I agree his a false teacher but 1 Timothy 2:12-15 A woman she not allowed to teach.
I am blessed by God. I have food, clothes, a house and my life. I'm thankful to God everyday. God watches over me always.
Yes, Amen! God is so good all the time!!
I agree, i alway make it
The Closer we Get to God, the More we are under attack from the evil one. We Have a Relationship With God, Our Father, He Protects, Provides For Us. We Know that we are on the Narrow Path, if we are under attack. But God Sees us Through, when we Trust, Believe, and Rely Only On Him. Put Him First In All things. God Bless.
Thanks for the connections you have made. When I first heard people saying that if your faith was strong enough you could have whatever you wanted, I felt like I ought to be ashamed of myself, that I was weak. Years later I realized that was a false doctrine. I knew it was not according to scripture, but I have never heard it explained in relation to New Age/mystical teachings and had the similarities pointed out. So, now it is more clear to me. Also, if Oprah is touting something, that is a dead giveaway, for sure.
I feel the same, if Oprah is involved, run the other way.
Preach it Melissa, 1,000% in agreement with EVERYTHING you have said. JO is a prosperity speaker, who no doubt is a VERY wealthy man. At the beginning of his 'sermons' he always holds up his bible, but never once opened it! That was the only sign I needed that he wasn't authentic. I pray for the countless thousands who are deceived by any 'motivational speaker' who continue to have their "ears tickled". Proverbs 17:4,
2 Timothy 4:2-4.
A local pastor years ago taught this "say it and make it so" doctrine. His daughter had cancer set up in her body, but since she thought if she told anybody how she felt, it would make it real, so she remained silent about her pain. She died of the cancer. Shortly after that the pastor was turned from that way by the Holy Spirit and went before his church to declare he would not teach that doctrine any more. He was dismissed by his congregation and they found another pastor who would tickle their ears.
Oh my goodness
Well the reverse of this is the situation that happened at Bethel less than 2 years ago where the daughter of one of the worship team members died, but because of the teachings there, they were all told to call her back to life, and speak resurrection over her. The kid is still dead...but there's no way they will depart from this expectation that people can't die in a world that is still held in bondage to decay (Romans 8:20-21). They said it and it still didn't "make it so".
Crazy theology that can lead people to such terrifying choices is so saddening
bigburdi, Pray For Believers and Unbelievers.
Good grief! I must have either grew up sheltered or in a God fearing church because I have never heard of things like this in Christian churches! This kind of stuff gives me a witch crafty kind of vibe. And we know what God thinks about His children messing with witch craft.😬
One of the big problems is that his messages sound so positive and motivational that people don't notice how theologically unsound they are. I used to listen to Joel's podcasts a lot and they certainly are "uplifting," but it's an empty kind of uplifting.
I found if you do not know and understand the bible pretty well, His teaching seems okay. If you do know the bible at all....his preaching is an abomination.
@@laurenlimebrook9828 Spot on!
Exactly Joey ! Well said 😁
Exactly on point!No wonder so many fall into his teachings because it tickles our ears!
I used to watch Joel’s father he was nothing like that at all.
Whoa! About half way through, I felt compelled to comment something negative. But I decided to wait and really try to understand your thoughts. I’m glad I waited.
I want to thank you. I hear all the time the proverbs verse “there’s power of life and death in the tongue” to support JOs teachings on this topic and I believed it. My prayer lately has been for God to reveal to me places where I have been deceived.
I believe God has used your video to convict me of my sin. Thank you for making this video. I see now that I was lead astray by the enemy. I now see the problem with this teaching is that it puts me in the place of God, where I am somehow in control of the outcomes in my life. When in reality, God is in control. I have no say in the outcomes, nor do the outcomes matter. What matters is Jesus and when He is Lord over our lives, that means He’s the governing force. It’s no longer my life, but His.
I need to read my Bible more. I do read it, but not as consistently as I’d like. Thank you again! God bless!!
I appreciate this, thank you
I cannot tell you enough how thankful I am for having found your channel. Thank you for doing all that you do, many blessings from Oklahoma 💜🇺🇲
We don’t need to just pray for Joel but for the church as a whole. He and similar preachers have a following for a reason. 🙏🏾
Yes, unfortunately, some people are not interested in hearing the truth, ....they just want to "feel good"
Honestly, this is something that I struggle with a bit. Along the same lines, I also have to believe that people follow and get misled by cult leaders for a reason too. Not everyone gets out or gets the opportunity to realize that they've been misled.
To go along with this, I also have trouble thinking about the people who don't get the opportunity to repent their wrongs. As I'm someone who've had humbling experiences in the past that led me to letting go of my pride and finding God, I sometimes think about those who don't get the opportunity to process all of that. I imagine a scenario where someone is living a life of luxury (who'd we expect to lose it all at some point and teach him an important lesson and give him an opportunity to process letting go of his pride), but what happens if he gets hit by a bus while still living the life? It gives him no opportunity to repent or realize his wrongs let alone accepting Jesus. While I don't believe in universalism and the concept of purgatory isn't scriptural, I sometimes wonder why is it while we're living that's gives us breathing room to process humility and repentance? Just wondering if someone else have an answer to this (so far, the only way I can kind of make sense of this is through a sort of Calvinist lens).
He a crook
He buys his suit with your money
Your money gets his vacations and cars
He Sided with the World and Has Denied Christ in front of the World when he admitted that he didn’t Believe that Jesus was THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED AND GO TO HEAVEN.
When and where did he say this ? 🤔
@@phillipwilson6901 an interview he had on Larry King a while back.
He also said this in an interview with Oprah
Well what does there bible teach about it? Paul was emphatic that Christ is the standard but what about people who were born and died never having heard the name of Jesus? Romans 5:13
Wow those quotes from Lakewood church are clearly the law of attraction. I appreciate you and other alike who are bringing more attention to the new age teachings.
You've laid this out in a really easy to understand way. Thank you! I pray anyone seeking answers will find this video to help them as they work out their salvation and seek truth!
People are following every wind of doctrine! Thank you for your teaching Biblical truth.
"Don't ever speak anything negative about yourself", soooo... I guess they 're saying: "Never admit that you're a sinner in need of salvation."
How must u speak then after u received salvation and forgiveness of sin is that not what he is concentrating on.Must we declare and profess a loser God and that we are losers or that through Christ i am more than a conqueror.
That’s not what he means though 😂
@@wormwood8516 Joel's "I am" statements seem more like self-glorification if you ask me. Hardships will come and when they do, we are to trust in God, not in what we call ourselves
Melissa, once upon a time I found myself semi-deep into word of faith, but I realized the same thing you mention in this video. Jesus said those who follow Him will suffer and we must deny ourselves and follow Him! You are correct real life is so challenging we as Christians need the full council of God not just the cookies and cream😀
Yep. Its obvious that many of the apostles and other early Christians were severely persecuted for their belief in Christ.
Absolutely! And if you are trying to do Gods will, you are not going to have everything the way your flesh wants it to be. Its a denying of your flesh. Joels teaching goes so contrary to what being a christian really is.
The Narrow Gate, Matthew 7:13-14 and Matthew 16:24-26'
Thank you! I’m a new believer and study the word everyday and I appreciate the clarification on Joel. Jesus is my savior!
I like how you care about them as a person and still talk about their teachings
Didn't Jesus do much the same when he walked the earth?
Hello Melissa, I have always believed that Mr. Osteen's teaching had many "holes". It concerns me because scripture tells us that those who teach will be judged more harshly. Let's pray for him.
Amen, was thinking of this very thing,.
See James 3:1.
Holes? Don't you mean Chasms, or Bottomless Pits? LOL and sad at the same time.
Finally, someone willing to not only criticize these fake preachers. she also share the true gospel in the process.
there are many like myself who have criticized these crooks for years...but for some its harder to ever admit you are wrong vs changing your mindset....peter popoff was exposed on national tv for using an earpiece to trick people (watch the youtube video)...and knowing this people still go see him...
@@iampostal really?! That's awful!
Thank you so much for making this video... This is what I was searching for.. I believe God had led me here... May God bless you❤
This was a great teaching Melissa thank you so much! I learned a lot not just about why his teachings are not cool but also about the word of God! Keep up the good work sister you are in my prayers
Could not agree more. Excellent video!!
Yes. The error sits in the last line Joe Olsteen 's "We believe" statement.
Hello...Brother Allen Parr I read your statement of beliefs on your website through prayers before applying for a PT position with your ministry. I'm so glad God said not yet as he is still working in me in so many wonderful ways. Praise God!
hey Hi Allen! I watch your videos all the time!
This is very clear my concerning about his teachings. Thank you for making this video ❤
Good to see you on here, Allen👍🏼
I would you use the word motivational speaker not preacher.
As a 70yr old exJW, I really love, yes love, your perspective and how you truly exemplify Christian qualities in your handling of sensitive matters. I enjoy your ministry💜💙
Thank you Melissa for this video!!! You help so much! And put things in perspective. Your videos helped me a lot!!! Thank you!
A very good presentation. I am amazed at your understanding of the bible being as young as you are. I have read the bible over 50 times, been to bible school, etc., You were preaching to me. Bravo!
"We're not in control. And I'm glad we're not."
Amen to that 😅✝️💪🏽
When I try to be in control, I gaurantee it will not turn out well. Thankyou Lord, that you have control. God knows best!
Joel's message: Lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, pride of life. Everything the world offers.
All mega chruchs are about visual and music
Joel Olsteen and the like, where prophesied to come by the Holy Ghost thru the Apostle Peter. In 2Peter chapter 2.....FALSE TEACHERS!
Not the world. Satan! What Joel offers is exactly what Satan tempted Jesus with.
2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
The message and presentation was great sister. No technical or sound issues on my end. The message is spot on.
Joel is not Christian Preacher
He's always been a motivational speaker. Yes, Joel teaches the Law of Attraction which is not the Gospel of Christ. LoA has occult roots.
Your right
Very Good Video
Peace
RIGHT. !!!!!!!!
Law of Attraction only attracts money for the speakers that use it.
Yes at best a motivational speaker no more no less!
I have watched him, read some of his books. You are very correct. He is a motivational speaker. That is all. Also, if you notice, as I have noticed, he basically just says the same things over and over and over again.
Bin Ren; Exactly. He is a motivational speaker and peddles the prosperity gospel to those who don't know God's word, the Bible. Others of his ilk are Tony Robbins, Eckhart Tolle and Kenneth Copeland.
I use to love Joel Osteen...not anymore. You have open my eyes about him. I can't believe I was so blind, I see alot of pastors like him who only do good positive teachings and never hit more harsher and needed subjects like revelation etc.
Don't Judge yourself too harshly. In my opinion "spiritual blindness" can happen to anyone. The "Evil One" doesn't object. This just makes his "job" easier.
@@richardrice1032 Satan and the demons are the force behind false Christianity, which tried pushing itself into Jesus' congregation, namely in the congregations his apostles and disciples which throughout the first century spread into Europe, Northern Africa and Western Asia, took the lead. False Christians were stronger in the second century, and by the third the Catholic church had changed various root and foundation or main teachings Jesus and the apostles taught. Satan doesn't object, and he and the demons are the ones inside the minds of those teaching falsely.
Thank you for your research into this subject and for sharing your findings.
I have only grown as a Christian when I plainly observed and admitted my most grievous faults and sins. When I acknowledge, usually verbally - spoken out loud - to God Himself, where I have discovered evil within myself. Thank you so much for this video. I appreciate your illuminating God's Word to us.
He needs to change that “I Am” to “God is”. To God be ALL of our praise and not to ourselves.
God is I AM (Ex. 3:14). Joel is just a spiritually poor con man. :(
This is soooi on time! For years I would get vexed whenever I heard his teachings. I have often told friends that he is not posturing himself as a Shepard but more like a self help teacher; very new aged!
I’m praying for you my sister as you exposed false doctrine. God bless you.
Watching this two years later and it's EXCELLENT! Thank You Melissa,
My friend who is a preacher at Victory Church in Oklahoma. States this: "God wants his job back. Quit trying to take something that was never ours in the begin with. It's time we get on bended knee and ask for forgiveness for trying to be like God." Pastor John Chasteen. I went to Bible College with this young man and his dad was one very good pastor. What he had to say about our resume verses God's does not line up. God is our father and he alone speaks and does according to his words not ours. He knows what we need and desire he gives when we are ready, but it does not give us the right take anything from God. God alone is the author and finisher of our faith and he alone gives salvation through his son Jesus Christ. When we come to him it should be with humility and reverence. My heart hurts for those who are believing anything Oprah or Joel Osteen teach. It's all false. There is no reverence and no humility. I do pray for them. I pray God shows up in their lives and they privately repent before God and publicly denounce word of faith, mystic and new age beliefs.
Joel sounds like a game show host from the 50's and 60's
If people know not the hell, they also know not the salvation.
Excellent teaching and you have a very gentle, Godly way of going about it. Thank you!
I agree 🙏🙏💕💕
I LOVE how this title is not offensive. It makes me sad when good videos have overly harsh titles that can incite people instead of drawing them to watch them. May this video help many by the power of the Holy Spirit. All praise to our Lord!
Joel is a great motivational speaker, however I started 2 notice In alot of his sermons he doesn't use the word sin at all. I've also notice he can give a whole sermon without mentioning Jesus.
The law of attraction makes us as the creator and not God as the creator.
Right
Everyone in this video you mentioned, helped me while in my pit of despair.
Love you! Although a long-term Christian, I have learned so much. I found you on Allen Parr's channel, The Beat. May God continue to bless you all!
My family and I started going to Lakewood Church when I was in junior high. We sat under Joel's father, John Osteen, for many years. We were very involved in the church. My parents were prayer warriors, I worked in the nursery, my brother worked for the TV ministry. When John died, we were shocked that Joel took over as pastor. From the very beginning I couldn't stomach listening to Joel. He never spoke about Jesus. He never preached against sin. Every "sermon" sounded exactly like the sermon before and they were all about prosperity and thinking happy thoughts. That was back in 1999. My family would get so angry at me when I would point this out and would tell me to not speak "bad things" about Joel. Joel has dishonored his father's legacy.
Edited to add: The Bible declaration at the beginning of his teachings was taken (and edited) from what his father said and did. We would all stand and hold up our Bibles and say, "This is my Bible. I have what it says I have. I can do what it says I can do. Today I will be taught the Word of God. I boldly confess, my mind is alert. My heart is receptive. I am about to receive the indestructible, incorruptible, ever living seed of the Word of God. I will never be the same. Never, never, never. In Jesus name, Amen." Then, John Osteen would open his Bible and read from the scripture. There are many John Osteen sermons on CZcams that I think are worth looking up. He's radically different than Joel.
It's just like Billy Graham. I loved him but I cannot stomach his sons and daughters.
To me , Joel has progressed greatly in his teaching and more constant referring to the Word of God. I agree 10 years ago it was somewhat the "bubble gum and cotton candy" preacher, but not any more. Also, hes more edgy and real . I like Pastor Joel a lot and think hes one of God's great super stars for Gods glory.
@@edwardrossman9448, I agree! People need to listen to what he actually preaches. He teaches a deep faith and trust in God through the trials of life, and who doesn’t need to hear that?
My relationship with God has greatly deepened and become more real because of Joel, and I’ve let go of fear. I’m *extremely* thankful to all the biblical principles of faith that I’ve learned from Joel! ❤️
@@PeaceIsYeshua So where are his mentions of repentance, of the promise of earthy suffering and no promise of earthly reward, of sin and law and of gospel and salvation through penitent faith? You know what the Bible says you are? A sinner whose best is filthy rags. It doesn't say you're wonderful and powerful.
Let’s all pray for Joel’s salvation. Because God loves him too.
Amen! Pray for All False Preachers, and Their Congregations, For their eyes and ears to be Opened By The Word. For their hearts to Be Softened, For The Holy Spirit to Convict them of their sin. To Repent and Turn from sin, and to Accept Jesus as their Saviour. In Jesus' Name, Amen!!
He ripping every body off
God "hates evil" and Joel is an evil doer. God doesn't love him, but God does have the door open for him to come to God. If Peter had kept denying Jesus all his life, you think he would have been one of the twelve still? He would have been evil and God would not have accepted him. Joel denies God and Jesus all the time by telling lies. But Gods love is available to Joel, if only Joel turn away from false teachings.
@@markuse3472 Joel doesn't love God, is the problem. A pastor at my church knows people who know his family, preachers themselves.
It sounds like Joel's been told he's way in the wrong on his teachings, by other preachers, and more than once.
He hasn't changed, and that should be the end of it. I will not pray for someone like that. There's no point, he won't change. He doesn't want to. He doesn't care, wants to lead the rich life, has nothing else in his head.
I hat to say it, but I'm not seeing like light biblically for him. It's all about the life he & his friends want to lead, not about preaching the gospel.
I just hope people see what he's up to and find a genuine preacher to follow and support.
THANK YOU Melissa!! I appreciate the work you do.You have a servants heart and good discernment! And as a woman, you inspire me. I turned 38 today, was raised a Christian(even tho I didn't act like it) and just recently learned of apologetics. I didnt even kNow it was a thing. I fell in love! and have a deep desire for the Word now. I wish and hope I can find my calling from the Lord soon. I'm just not sure what or where He wants me. Anyways, keep up the good work💗🌈
Thank you for this Very Clear and Concise explanation of Biblical Truths! God Bless You, for Blessing Me with Your Clear Explanations!
He says “ this is my Bible “but never opens it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂idk if that was supposed to be funny, but omg lol I’m weak
Jade_Noelle Martin well, osteen says at beginning of every service . this is my Bible, I have what it says I have, I am who it says I am,” but I’ve never seen him open it when he’s teaching. , why is that Joel?
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Oooo Myyyyy The fact that I use to listen to him for about 3months and I learned to just seek God. And read my Bible more. Cause I use to know this saying by heart. Lord forgive me for laughing so hard 🤣🤣🤣
Actually, I have never seen him holding a Bible, ever...
Stay away from Oprah Winfrey.
Crossed her of my Christmas card list years ago.
Yeah..she is the Queen of age new. She is a slave to her money and fame.
Total universalism, materialism, and relativism. You’re absolutely right. Stay away.
@@eilissmith8591 I think you meant to say OFF 🙂 February 17,2021
I watched him for some time and find nothing wrong with his teachings? I believe he’s more of a motivational speaker and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that and to still believe in Jesus? yes his teachings may not be all exact as the teachings from the Bible, but I do say this: as long as he’s not teaching anything negative or evil per say and we ourselves still reading and studying the Bible then, May he continue
to teach good positive ways to help people feel motivated towards Jesus and for Jesus by changing the ways we look and live our life’s!
We should know by now we are all sinners and not worthy of Gods love but yet God is merciful and loves us anyways! Let’s just pick up our crosses repent our ways believe in the passion of Christ and Stop Judging or talking or gossiping about others? Not saying people can’t speak on their own opinions but, come on let’s bring good into this world!? Let’s bring peace!? There is only one true Judge in this whole Universe one true Savior one true Love and that’s The Father and the Son🙏❤️
God bless you Melissa. Your videos are very well made.
I’m so thankful you did a video on this!
The important thing is that you are doing it with respect and gentle, not bashing him with harsh words like most others do and you are doing it lining up with The Words. Thank you!
Great job Melissa, I was Joel follower for a number of years, watched his sermons on TBN, listened to his SiriusXM channel and live streamed all of the Lakewood services every Sunday. His smiling and friendly nature took me in. He attempts to manipulate the laws of spirituality to turn things in our favor. Joel also teaches much about the "Destiny" that God has for us and that we can miss it if we aren't following the principals he teaches. His mother Dodie Osteen, who was healed from terminal illness in 1984 is a frequent subject point of his teachings. (Ironically, his father John Osteen was not healed from illness later in his life and passed despite applying these same principals and died of a heart attack in 1999)
What we also don't see on the television broadcast is that each service in Lakewood is opened with reciting a long list of words that are meant to make us feel good about ourselves, followed by a "this is my bible" deceleration, then a lame joke. So routine I could literally quote the opening of each service before seeing it. Keep also this in mind... Joel is well versed on what his critics say about him and is very clever with how he words things to keep anyone from straying. His doctrine, is Jesus never answered his critics, so why should I? (Not true by the way...) Keep also in mind Lakewood Church churns out other well known "Pastors" that teach just a falsely as he does, I listened heavily to John Gray and others in the WOF movement that were frequent guest speakers. I was very wrapped up in this, but through all still desired the truth more than abundance in my life which eventually lead me to actually have a relationship with Jesus. I question during my time in WOF if I was actually ever saved. Thank God for his grace that he gave me more time to find the truth!
I love how you start out; “I am totally ready for all the controversial messages “ lol. It’s funny how when we speak THE TRUTH, we feel we have to even explain any part of it. Society waters down truth to coddle individuals who aren’t even ready to accept spiritual accountability. When I encountered the Holy Spirit, I thought life was going to get so much easier. I was wrong. What I came to understand is I had been running from being accountable and I was living in complete sin, not according to society though. To society, I was productive, nice , and a good person. What I really was ; arrogant, prideful, egotistical, and so much more. I love your videos! I loved the LGBTQ video too! Thk you! God’s doing some awesome stuff. God Bless!
Thank you for this. Your discernment shows clearly and your explanations are well-researched and biblically based.
I was told a long time ago to read the Bible all the way through it took me almost three years. Did not understand a lot of it so read it again; every time I read I receive more understanding so I have read the Bible many times all the way through.
That’s one thing I love about the Bible. It’s the only book I can read more than once and learn and feel something new every time.
Yes Kay!
That is how it's done.
Each time you read The Word, you have more Faith in what you are reading.
And the more Faith you have in The Word of God, the more The Holy Spirit reveals to you, because you receive the Holy Spirit through your Faith!
I’m there now sister, I’m on my second year now of pushing through and struggling through the message. I thought I wasn’t going fast enough, but reading your post gave me encouragement to take my time and keep going.
I've come to understand a large portion of the Bible through studying. Knowing historical and cultural context helps. Knowing Greek and Hebrew can also give you a whole new understanding.
And sometimes you just need to pray.
I was an Osteen listener for years. This is so on point. Two things - #1 - Never in sermons is bible verse quoted but vaguely referenced. If he did people would see right through the contradiction. #2 - His bible is the book “The Secret” more than the actual bible. Thanks for doing this.
" #1 - Never in sermons is bible verse quoted" this is not true. He quotes the bible in every single sermon.
@@tomscott4644 he is cherry-picking & doesn’t quote full bible verses. He uses ONLY verses that cater to his teachings. He also doesn’t encourage others to go read their bible & study for themselves, just to take his word for it, which is usually a HUGE red flag 🚩
Shoo 🥺🥺🥺 Wow! This gave me chills in a Spiritual moving kind of way. Thank you for this.
I love Pastor Osteen, I don't have him as a pastor who teaches based on the rule of men, but as a Pastor who teaches through motivation. I was thinking the other day that, the only rule men of God have in common is faith and obedience. They all had their own unique way of transmitting the WORD. Instead of focusing on what I think of him, I prefer to focus on whether he has a testimony of faith through the way he lives.
He is a wolf in sheep's clothing
I was taught by my my parents that you cannot Love the world and Christ. Jesus said you cannot serve two masters and the poor will always be in this world. I know from looking and seeing and hearing that people who love this worldly system are enjoying their treasures. Their treasures are here. Check out what you see in the mirror. God forgive them for they have no hope. Also I wish people would read the Bible, we send ourselves to hell!!It is not Gods will He tells us it is not His will for us to die.
He's a wolf in wolf's clothing!
He's the wolfiest wolf that ever wolfed!!!
I know he might be a false prophet. But Proverbs 23:7. As a man thinketh, he is.
Josh Lampman A very wealthy Wolf!
Either that or very decieved himself.
I’m embarrassed as a Houstonian. It’s like you’re “cool” if you go to Lakewood church it’s ridiculous.
Hmm not really. In my experience , every time I told someone I go to Lakewood they had something bad to say or would make a weird face 😂. I always hesitant/afraid to tell Christians from other churches that I attended there because they would always assume certain things about me that weren’t even true 🤔
Hello Danielle, we have the same problem with Hillsong in Australia:(
@@way2girly I've had that experience as well.
Wow I haven’t been keeping track of your channel tbh, I’m a fan though, but you have 100+K subscribers and a bunch of fews on individual videos! That’s crazy! Keep doing what you’re doing, God Bless.
I do agree with you “Joel is not bold enough to state public that Jesus Christ is the only true salvation or the only way to God”. This is the only “I Am” worthy to be known and said.
Last days are of apostocy ..
Jesus is still the only way .
Good work 👍
All Glory to God 💖
My husband and I tried going to a new church in our town because we heard how good it was.. It was basically a motivational speech with an alter call at the end and the pastor o my spoke maybe 2 verses from the Bible to back what he was saying. There were a lot of college aged students there as well.. My husband was really tempted to approach the pastor about it all but he decided against it and we decided to leave. It was quite upsetting though. We missed a good message at our church to hear some sugar coated gospel at another.
If I were a betting person...I would the 2 scriptures they used were out of context. They do quote the bible & you can read it along with them, but it has to be in context & we have let that slide for so long.
It getting harder and harder to find a church that isnt like that. Especially if you are a spirit filled believer.
Thank u soo much for putting this into perspective. It is a blessing of truth to me and for that thank u👍
Thank you for this message. I fell into the same Law of Attraction trap too. Deep down it didn’t make sense though. (If we could create our own happiness, why would we need blessings from God?)
Amen!
Praise the Lord! By His grace I just completed a Master’s degree in Apologetics through Liberty University Online.
Wow, that's GREAT! Thank you Edward for helping the body of Christ "always be prepared to give an answer to anyone who asks for the reason for the hope within us" (1 Peter 3:15).
That's awesome!! God is so good!
Edward Vaillancourt Edward, that’s awesome! I’ve been praying for the Lord to lead me in the same direction. I have such a passion for apologetics . Congrats and I pray the Lord uses you for a great ministry! God bless.
What is "apologetics"?
BOODRO WEBB apologetics means to defend your faith. It’s the best class I’ve ever taken and you can learn so much from it.
Devil believed in Jesus; in fact, The fallen angels fear Jesus.
And yet, they still rebelled against Him.
Hi Melissa it’s Joe Glenn, from phoenix Arizona. This is a great video you made thank you so much.
Excellent video. I’m learning a lot from your channel. Thank you very much