Hello Frankie, I was just reading the stimulating comments below. I at 68 have never heard of the Drumcondra tests. When I was in 6th year in Synger 1970/1971 we were given a battery of IQ tests. I'd known from doing IQ tests in a book Know Your Own IQ that I bought aged 14 that I just had average intelligence about 115. Then when I did those tests in 6th year it turned out that I had below average 3D thinking or spatial awareness and below average logic or abstract reasoning. The only glimmer of something a bit above the average was with respect to physical intuition also called mechanical aptitude and then me only in the top 20% not say 5% or 1%. I know many people with high IQ's even specifically with respect to physics but they have no original ideas of their own. They can understand anything but when it comes to having ideas they are found wanting. It's probably the same in every sphere of human activity. For example take the world class vocalists in modern times like Tom Jones and Whitney Houston and so many others. When Tom Jones was on The Voice UK he said the greatest vocalist of all time for him was Whitney Houston who so sadly died from drugs. I saw a documentary about her and indeed a documentary about Tom Jones in which he appeared many times. So interesting. The point is these fantastic vocalists like Frank Sinatra also cannot write songs themselves. So they have very IQ's with respect to music but still cannot write songs. It's just like that in physics for example too and all of the other academic subjects right across the spectrum of the arts and sciences. I know a man who was in Synger with me from age 8 and it turned out that when we did those IQ tests he was a genius with an IQ of 160. He is so intelligent that he completed his doctorate in psychology in nine months. The problem was that UCD demanded that a Ph.D. student work for at lest three years on a doctorate. He was married at the time and so to just let him get on with his life they back dated the start of the doctorate. I have read some pieces by this man and it's like this force field grabs hold of my brain. He wants to write a book that will sum everything up but I have begged him to try to think of a concept and write about that. For example I love the idea of opposites light and dark hard and soft and so on and I asked him to write about that. Some men ask why is there something rather than nothing and I just say nothing has to be something. Anyway with my average IQ there is nothing in physics and chemistry and light engineering that I cannot understand and improve upon. I have yet as an OAP to show what my own capabilities are but there's still a glimmer of hope. Who knows? All the best, Peter Nolan. Ph.D.(physics). D6W.
Hello Frankie, Also here in Ireland maybe especially too much emphasis is placed on mathematics. For example when I was doing my LC 1969/1970, 1970/1971 getting honours maths gave one two honours for those of us like me going into uni. It was like being good at maths meant that one is intelligent. What nonsense that is. I wonder how it works today and I have a feeling not too much has changed. I understand that when I was young - me born 1953 - Ireland was regarded as a third world country by European countries like France and Germany and my parent's generation felt that at least they could give their children a good education. It all began with Edmund Ignatius Rice a businessman in Waterford who founded The Christian Brothers. Then the nuns took his lead and so too did the priests who tended to cater for the more well off by setting up fee paying schools like Blackrock College still here to this day. All anyone needs to do maths is a piece of paper and a pen and my parents could give us that much like all the other parents. I do not know why everything went to those extremes with respect to maths. Ireland is Europe's Silicon Valley today because of our world class education system that was built all those decades ago. I heard not long ago that some government minister was demanding that primary school teachers would have honours maths in the LC. What nonsense that is and the sooner all this ends all this around maths the better it will be for all concerned. One of my nephews is a helicopter pilot flying out to the oil rigs in the North Sea from his base in Aberdeen. He has a girl and two boys and he was telling me on the phone a few weeks ago that his two boys are not academically inclined but that in the UK allowances are made for these cases and that these children are not bullied or forced into doing well academically. I'm not up to speed on all the details here but I'm sure you get the idea. If a young person wants to be a bricklayer or electrician or plumber or truck driver and so on, as many want to be, then let's accommodate them. However it's of critical importance that everybody is able to read and write and do arithmetic because we really need to be able to do these things in life like knowing what a grocery bill is all about for example and mortgages and interest rates and so on. There are people who take care of these things like the banks but still on average we should all have some working knowledge of these basic things. There is so much injustice and we do not have, and far from it, a fair distribution of wealth and we need to have a grasp of the numbers to put all this right. All the best and many thanks, Peter Nolan. Ph.D.(physics). D6W.
Don't forget the uninteresting reading comprehensions about topics that nobody cares about. I remember one about different types of leaves and another about types of birds.
Without the abcd options, I feel lost in life. Namaste 🙏
Hello Frankie,
I was just reading the stimulating comments below. I at 68 have never heard of the Drumcondra tests. When I was in 6th year in Synger 1970/1971 we were given a battery of IQ tests. I'd known from doing IQ tests in a book Know Your Own IQ that I bought aged 14 that I just had average intelligence about 115. Then when I did those tests in 6th year it turned out that I had below average 3D thinking or spatial awareness and below average logic or abstract reasoning. The only glimmer of something a bit above the average was with respect to physical intuition also called mechanical aptitude and then me only in the top 20% not say 5% or 1%.
I know many people with high IQ's even specifically with respect to physics but they have no original ideas of their own. They can understand anything but when it comes to having ideas they are found wanting. It's probably the same in every sphere of human activity. For example take the world class vocalists in modern times like Tom Jones and Whitney Houston and so many others. When Tom Jones was on The Voice UK he said the greatest vocalist of all time for him was Whitney Houston who so sadly died from drugs. I saw a documentary about her and indeed a documentary about Tom Jones in which he appeared many times. So interesting. The point is these fantastic vocalists like Frank Sinatra also cannot write songs themselves. So they have very IQ's with respect to music but still cannot write songs. It's just like that in physics for example too and all of the other academic subjects right across the spectrum of the arts and sciences.
I know a man who was in Synger with me from age 8 and it turned out that when we did those IQ tests he was a genius with an IQ of 160. He is so intelligent that he completed his doctorate in psychology in nine months. The problem was that UCD demanded that a Ph.D. student work for at lest three years on a doctorate. He was married at the time and so to just let him get on with his life they back dated the start of the doctorate.
I have read some pieces by this man and it's like this force field grabs hold of my brain. He wants to write a book that will sum everything up but I have begged him to try to think of a concept and write about that. For example I love the idea of opposites light and dark hard and soft and so on and I asked him to write about that. Some men ask why is there something rather than nothing and I just say nothing has to be something.
Anyway with my average IQ there is nothing in physics and chemistry and light engineering that I cannot understand and improve upon. I have yet as an OAP to show what my own capabilities are but there's still a glimmer of hope. Who knows?
All the best,
Peter Nolan. Ph.D.(physics). D6W.
Hello Frankie,
Also here in Ireland maybe especially too much emphasis is placed on mathematics. For example when I was doing my LC 1969/1970, 1970/1971 getting honours maths gave one two honours for those of us like me going into uni. It was like being good at maths meant that one is intelligent. What nonsense that is. I wonder how it works today and I have a feeling not too much has changed.
I understand that when I was young - me born 1953 - Ireland was regarded as a third world country by European countries like France and Germany and my parent's generation felt that at least they could give their children a good education. It all began with Edmund Ignatius Rice a businessman in Waterford who founded The Christian Brothers. Then the nuns took his lead and so too did the priests who tended to cater for the more well off by setting up fee paying schools like Blackrock College still here to this day.
All anyone needs to do maths is a piece of paper and a pen and my parents could give us that much like all the other parents. I do not know why everything went to those extremes with respect to maths.
Ireland is Europe's Silicon Valley today because of our world class education system that was built all those decades ago.
I heard not long ago that some government minister was demanding that primary school teachers would have honours maths in the LC. What nonsense that is and the sooner all this ends all this around maths the better it will be for all concerned.
One of my nephews is a helicopter pilot flying out to the oil rigs in the North Sea from his base in Aberdeen. He has a girl and two boys and he was telling me on the phone a few weeks ago that his two boys are not academically inclined but that in the UK allowances are made for these cases and that these children are not bullied or forced into doing well academically. I'm not up to speed on all the details here but I'm sure you get the idea. If a young person wants to be a bricklayer or electrician or plumber or truck driver and so on, as many want to be, then let's accommodate them.
However it's of critical importance that everybody is able to read and write and do arithmetic because we really need to be able to do these things in life like knowing what a grocery bill is all about for example and mortgages and interest rates and so on. There are people who take care of these things like the banks but still on average we should all have some working knowledge of these basic things. There is so much injustice and we do not have, and far from it, a fair distribution of wealth and we need to have a grasp of the numbers to put all this right.
All the best and many thanks,
Peter Nolan. Ph.D.(physics). D6W.
D always either felt wrong or *too* right. Whenever I circled it in, I'd feel someone somewhere was laughing at me. 🙏
This was kind of incredible.
subtitles: drum chondra, drum conjure, from conjurer, drum contra, drunk hundred
Quality as always 👍👍👍
Don't forget the uninteresting reading comprehensions about topics that nobody cares about. I remember one about different types of leaves and another about types of birds.
There was also this painfully long story about a guy stuck in a chimney i think
When your answer was B three times in a row, you knew something was wrong. Even if it wasnt based off a confusing story
We have something like Drumcondra Tests in America, too. I'm sorry to here you guys have to deal with it. Namaste 🙏
Do one on Leixlip please :D
I either never gave a damn about tests or I have Alzheimer's because I don't remember this at all
Reference game off the charts
Fuckin magnifique dude
Have you been hanging out at the locks by the Bernard Shaw again. Namaste
I once hid in the toilet of a train from Kildare to Cork after doing a full ... ah that's another story. Yup.