Kate Winslet gets EMOTIONAL finding out her ancestor was in prison!
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- Oscar-winning actor Kate Winslet finds out that her three times great grandfather was in prison!
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We really should be so grateful to our ancestors. Some of them suffered incredible hardship and pain. One of my ancestors was a shepherd in Southern Italy, during the time that Napoleon had decided to conquer Italy and was making his way from the South to the North. Napoleon destroyed everything he could and left a wake of destruction. When he was 12 years old, he went to take the sheep to pasture and when he went back he saw smoke in the village and knew that everyone had died. He then never went back to the village (nothing was left) and on foot, at 12 years of age (!!!), he walked from the Avellino area to Rome, where he eventually found work as a mason and eventually became a master mason. I descend from him.
Omg ! how brave story ! our ancestors must be an Inspiration for us. Incredibly Life has got easier in comparison what they had to struggle...So Respect for you Ancestor. ❤️ Greetings from Perú.
How my ancestors survived in Ireland and avoided the workhouse is something I always keep in mind when I think I am "suffering" (we modern people with our modern problems!). I don't know if I could have lived through the hardships they did.
Our ancestors had to have been very strong people,in so many ways - or we would not be here at all!!!!!
I couldn't agree more. Every one of our ancestors and their names must be remembered. That's why I've been researching my family history since 7th grade...over 40 years ago.
@@kaye8231 Me too! I’ve been researching since 1984 but knew lots of info before that!
Her ancestors would be so proud of Kate and the amazing talented gorgeous person she turned out to be
I tell you, it was a really nice time I had doing this! BBC! Kate!! Thank you!
What a horrible story, but not uncommon back then. We are so blessed we have no idea.
She's so sweet.
How sad that people from any country are forced to live in servitude. Especially under the circumstances described here. It never ceases to surprise me how human beings can treat other human beings because they think they can. There is still a special place in hell for these people.
The thing that gets me is people who think that they don’t have family members like this. Our family trees are huge - no one can say with certainty that X family was perfect.
I find it best to remember what our ancestors did and always treat others with kindness and respect.
They Were thieves though. 3 hives and barrels of tattoes is kind of a lot of value.
Well then we are all going to hell because there are always poor people and there are always people who benefit from poor people.
Indeed I completely agree with you here. We should be so grateful for our ancestors spirit guides and past lives. I am thankful to be alive living in peace ☯️🙏
@@tangledandfar That's every minimum wage worker.
I'm a simple man - I see Kate Winslet and I push play.
History and genealogy always put my troubles into perspective.
In Mexico, in the early 1900’s and before that, people got paid with items from the store in the Hacienda, the owner controled all aspects of life AND people were not allowed to own land. That slowly changed after the mexican revolution in 1910…. Thank God
Do you know where I can find historical information in Mexico about BALTAZAR R. LEYVA MANCILLA?
I've been told we are relatives but I'm not sure how to search for more information from the U.S.
@@j.mancilla8339 where was he born? what year? in any case there's lots of digitized documents from Mexico at familysearch(dot)org. It's a free website. You just need to open an account with your email.
Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer 😇
_"The Company Store"_
*Same system in Perú. And that Hacienda System did exist until 1969. My grand-grandmother, grandparents and my mom lived in an Hacienda until that time, that Hacienda place is the International Airport of Perú now. By my dad's side, my grandfather was the owner of an Hacienda...but he didn't kept my grandmother, my dad and uncles...In Perú the History of Haciendas is very unknown nowadays.*
Kate is such a beautiful Lady inside out.
A very sad story. Much props to the people who organised all this info for her before she arrived :)
What a very sad story! That poor woman lost her baby then her husband. I wonder how she must have survived afterwards!
Maybe she ate her other kids in order to survive?
@@js1423 - So very unfunny.
@@MossyMozart Kids with potatoes and mayo
Found a new husband
such a tragic story. The courts had no considering of this poor woman.
“I owe my soul to the Company Store”… quite the racket
Yes…it was everywhere
I don't think a lot of people realize exacly how extremely poor Sweden was, not that long ago.
Mmm.. Not that long ago at all. And what happened up in the north of Sweden during the last famon.
I remember not sure where exactly where I read it that Sweden was the last European countries aboleshed the servdom
@@khaleddekar2188 "In Finland, Norway, and Sweden, feudalism was never fully established, and serfdom did not exist" ("Serfdom" Wikipedia).
@@Asa...S I'm pretty sure something happened Sweden abolished serfdom or slavery in 20th century, but maybe my memory tricked me
@@khaleddekar2188 Slavery was abolished in Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia in mid-14th century. (Article "Thrall" on Wikipedia).
Love that she says the word FLIPPIN lol rather than cussing on camera when she is upset, very cute ;D
Hi I am Russian , and I am wathcing from Russia. So sad story. "Who Do you think you are?" team you make great job! Thanx
Love and peace back to Russia and Russians my friend!
Ahh bless Kate Winslet 👌
Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer 😇
That token system may sound like a labor rights mess, but it was a common practice in the mining, logging, and steel mill industries of America until company scrips were finally outlawed in 1938.
Yes! The Company Store! Who could charge any amount for the items and the people % being paid I’m script - had no choice. Either buy or starve! Reminds me of that old song by Tennessee Ernie Ford which includes the phrase - “I owe my soul to the company store!”. People could never get even or get ahead!!!
❤ Beautiful Kate Winslet 😍
I’m from Sweden and my great great grandfather was one of them who went to America…
Got shivers down my spine watching this. Eventually their souls were free.
I love Kate Winslet and enjoyed learning about her heritage. What's painful is that while she can trace her lineage back to four generations, African-Americans are lucky to go back two in light of the culture erasure, renaming, and complete dismissal of ancestry
That’s sad. In my country it’s normal to go back 20+ generations
Complications along the same line for tribal Native Americans - harder than heck to get info
what do African-Americans have to do with Kate's story?
people need to stop stickin them into every free hole they find
I think most people who starts to investigate their ancestors, will find tragedy. It was a werry hard life back then. Even here in Denmark. I spend 3 years on my ovn family, and out of 200 people in my tree, there are a couple of them, back in the 1800, that decided to hang themselves because they could not provide for their family anylonger.
Not shocked, unfortunately😢
Yup Scandinavia was very poor in those days. That's why so many of them left for America.
Yes it is heartbreaking, sadly it seems the tortuous lifes & deaths of many of our ancestors were suffered & lost in vain & it has become blatantly clear that we still subject growing numbers of individuals, families & communitues to these horrific criminal circumstances beyond their control, then treat, accusr & punish them like they are the low lifes & criminals. How many times? When will they ever learn? It can still happen almost overnight to any one of us & does. Natural cycles of land becoming barron or fruitful is one thing, inflicting a life of poverty & torture due to greed & gross neglect, on human beings by other human beings, is unconscienable/evil by definition not label.
Barren not Barron
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Thank you! It’s wonderful when people give concise descriptions of things we don’t know! I so appreciate this as I didn’t know!
Thank you for that I had no idea.
@@sandybruce9092 I didn't know either, but I googled it and placed the answer in my post. Thank you
that's such a sad story.
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How life can be this sad 😭
The line of an old song came to my mind. "I owe my soul to the company store." Horrible.
Tennessee Ernie Ford, “Sixteen Tons” was written about the miner’s plight.
@@reginaromsey I know. The whole working for tokens made ne think of it.
😢Emperor & Empress , King & Queen # Remarkable moment in human history
I cannot believe how people in the 1700 and 1800s live! And we are so spoiled!
Being an American, I had no idea where my ancestors came from. After researching, I have found over 700 ancestors so far. I had no idea that records went back to the 800's , and earlier. Towns wrote books about the community, so I have been able to see what some of my ancestors were up to. Very cool.
What a tragic story.😢
This is so incredible!!!
Sounds like when I used to work for Kroger. They would give us bonuses that we can only spend at Kroger.
Sounds like this Manor had an early example of the Coal mines with their Company Store where once the miner had run up a tab they couldn’t get free of the debt.
In the part with the token, she expresses her sadness for her ancestor being trapped in this life and not being able to find a way out for him and his family. This is a modern perspective. Get out to where? Maybe the French Riviera? People were separated into classes. The upstairs-downstairs of Downton Abbey as it were. He had a secure job. His family safe with clean lodging and had food to eat. Out there was danger, hunger and death for many. I would imagine, while at times wished for a better life, was thankful for his lot.
@TKO_23_: With all due respect, I think yours is the “modern” perspective. Of course they weren’t dreaming of the French Riviera. Her ancestor was trapped in an economic vise that was common for the time, and that existed in the United States as well. Families lived in company-provided housing and had to procure all their needs from the “company store,” which in effect kept all the earnings from their labor circulating within the company’s assets. They had no tangible money with which to purchase their needs elsewhere, accrue savings, and plan for a different life, or even to start a modest business of their own. They were at the mercy of whatever the company owner (or landowner) offered to them, and clearly, as evidenced by their poor health and malnutrition, the available provisions for “sale” to them were inadequate. It is akin to slavery, despite the miserable tokens being offered as a cruel farce of salary.
Lovely Kate. More gordious than ever.
Such a fantastic story. Glad you found out about your history. I wish I found out mine if I was given the opportunity 😔. It may not be the greatest but it made you strong so be grateful
The fact we can't watch any season we want online from a streaming service is ridiculous.
Crimes of poverty, even today, should be addressed with some form of help rather than punishment. The system of governance is to blame for the conditions surrounding the crime and so the system is to blame for it's poor treatment of the people. I think this is relevant today in all countries.
This system of forcing people to shop with the employer is called 'gedwongen winkelnering' in Dutch, and as I have now discovered it has it's term in English also. It's named the Truck system. I have a hunch this happened a lot for it to have a name.
These stories are sad but i can't help but think that while these people live in mansions and many just blow millions there are still people stealing to eat.
Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear...
This is so sad and depressing.
The coalminers in the UK were forced into a similar system of informal bondage even after they were legally freed.
Often the pit was away from town, so miners lived in hovels owned by the mine and were forced to buy their work supplies and tools at inflated prices at the “truck” store owned by the mine owner.
But since they were often advanced the tools on “tick”, or were given credit for food when some of the family were ill or injured (the whole family worked as a gang) they were perpetually in debt to the store. So they seldom got cash pay, or very little.
If they refused to buy at the store’s inflated prices, they could just be “put off” - barred from the mine and evicted from their home - and the mine owners kept blacklists, so they couldn’t get work in that region.
What this story makes clear to me is that our lives everywhere have improved tremendously since this era. (I can add my own grandparents stories to that.) However they have improved at the cost of the worldwide environment. We will return to these horrible times if we don’t stop producing millions more babies and if the wealthy don’t stop being environmentally irresponsible at the rate of 10 times what the common man is.
I had ancestors in jail in England for religious services being held in their house. Came to the U.S. Not uncommon to find an ancestor that had been in jail during certs times.
Sounds like what is happening one the sugar plantations in Jamaica, or Haiti. It was done to enslave the workers. The cost of the food is really high.
One of her 32 three times great grandparents.
They were most likely going to make Mead from the bee honey, the lashings were for not being a "Legal Distiller of Alcohol Goods".
Well Kate, isn't life just? Hearing the fate of so many, to this day, as the average citizen does with less, while the noble few enjoy their comforts...
the famine in sweden was worse than you can imagine , the cold period tooke the war out off the swedes , ond no help was given from the richs world
From mid 1800 to the beginning of the 1900 a third of swedens population emigrated due to lack of jobs, land, food, etc...
Sweden was really poor before WWII.
@@lindaefraim5895 Yes it was.
Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer 😇
Which explains why on Titanic you also saw so many Scandinavians as we did in 1912.
Wonderful and sad. The tokens and in the states had company money to buy from the store. In WV the housing, if the miner died the wife would be kicked out unless she married another miner.
Thanks for sharing your story Kate.
Bless your heart kate winslet! I would’ve stolen the potatoes too if my family was hungry like your great great grandfather. Ilyvm Kate have a blessed day.
Wow
1:40 from what I understand it was common practice, mudlarkers on the river thames find them a lot.
Sounds like the company stores in Americas coal country. I didn't know they existed elsewhere. So sad.
This tradition of servitude is why so many people emigrated to America including my ancestors from England and Norway to have a better life. Luckily my ancestors became successful farmers as new states were opened up in the 1800’s including Wisconsin where they settled.
Life was tough in the Old World. I did my genealogy in Quebec since 1603 and apart from being killed by Natives (until 1675), they had it easy! Food was plentiful, and if willing to work a bit, they lacked nothing. People reached a ripe old age, some 90 +, most babies surviving, with large families living next to each other.
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Kate says, "Good on you Anders, I would have stolen the potatoes as well!" But I wonder would she have really? Those were stolen from two farmers. There were no seed stores, no Amazon or Whole Foods to order seed potatoes, the farmers had to store seed potatoes thru the winter to plant in the spring. Without those seed potatoes there would have been no potatoes for anyone the following year. So I wonder would she really have stolen several barrels of potatoes? The reason the punishment was harsh is because the impact on the whole community for such crimes was great. Then he steals bee hives as well. I doubt the community felt he was a good person, they were all starving but he was going about stealing whatever he could get his hands on, with no care of who went without.
The man had lost his 3 month old son and he, his wife and kids were starving without any hope of being able to work their way out of there. He himself also was sick with Typhus and he died before they could punish him. Not saying what he did was right, but at the same time, I can understand him acting out.
@@kmw4359 very sad indeed. I am simply pointing out that he stole 3 to 4 barrels of potatoes, (a wagon load) of potatoes. This was enough potatoes to plant several acres of potatoes in the spring. So was his intent to sell the extra potatoes or did he need the seed potatoes to plant his own garden. And the story doesn't say how the 3 month old son died, they assumed starvation, yet none of the other family members were on the death records they found, meaning they had food even after the father went to prison and ultimately died of Typhus. The story sounds like he was in prison for stealing the potatoes when the charges, trial and sentence of flogging happened, then he died before that sentence could be carried out. I'm trying to point out this wasn't the theft of a 10 pound bag of potatoes. Some of these famines were caused by disease and pest that wiped out other crops and sometimes potatoes were the only crop that could be grown. Stealing the seed potatoes from two farmers would have affected the whole village's food supply the following year.
@@sswafford100 no proof, but sounds to me like he just wanted to get back at the farmers who controlled the entire town’s finances. This was the only way he could hurt them as much as they’d hurt him.
But the record they read said potatoes, not seed potatoes. A family of 7 would go through a lot of potatoes if they had nothing else to eat. When I make mashed potatoes for my big family I use about 6-7 lbs of potatoes, one meal, and we have other items on the table as well. They were definitely going to eat those. Farmers also stored eating potatoes to eat all winter. Potatoes are a fantastic storage crop after all and a great way to add calories and nutrients to a meal. Kate, being a mother would 100% do whatever it took to feed her kids and keep herself alive to care for her kids. So would I. So would my husband. No one cares about the impact on the community if their own kids don't survive. And he would have no reason to steal seed potatoes because he had no land to plant them on. He seemed to have nothing. He was desperate. And he was likely one of many desperate people who stole to survive. Can you imagine your employer paying you in tokens that you could only use to purchase goods from that same employer? Those employees were trapped. What a scam.
@@kmw4359 farmers didn't control the villages, they weren't lords, they were just like him, only he worked with the horses they planted crops, both working for a living. He didn't steal from the lord, he stole from his neighbor. Imagine your neighbor robbing your house because he needed food worse than you did. The farmers had to pay for the use of the land, probably in produce. Then sell some to pay their helpers, then feed their families, and finally store potatoes to plant next year usually in barrels stored in a root cellar or buried in the ground.
وہ اتنا بڑا انسان کون ھے جو میری ایک لائن نہیں سن سکتا
He was in reality a slave. Being payed in non legal tender does not equate freedom.
It is like the coal miners. The miners could only spend tender at the company store.
Oh gods, her great-great-great-great-grandfather was stuck in a proto-company town situation. That's horrifying on its face, and for it to lead to the death of his son and his imprisonment, it's truly nightmarish.
Kind of sounds of the extreme areas of poverty today around the world.
We have a better life than our grandparents. Something Klaus Schwab wants to undo.
I was shocked by the idea that owners would create their own store and currency for their employees to shop at so they won’t live
Same concept at the "company store" the companies set up in mining communities here in the US.. people already poor had to pay insane prices,
This was true in colonial South Jersey. The iron works had a company store.
How awful! 😭
Done some genealogy work myself, back then they really brutally put it on the regular person and the working classes.
It's understandable why Kate would side with her ancestor for stealing the potatoes to feed himself and his family, but let's think about the person he stole from. That man needed the money from those potatoes to feed himself and his family. What if her ancestors were the farmers who had their potatoes stolen and their child had died because of it?
No one going to mention how beautiful she is?
She is a natural beauty!😍
I don't know why anyone would take it personally what a distant ancestor did or didn't do... If you go back to a "great-great" grandparent, remember you had 16 of them and each one is as significant in some way (or not) as all the rest. It's nice to know their stories, but all of us spring from thousands of ancestors and all of them were a mix of good and bad in their own times.
It’s fascinating, the fact that long ago there is documentation for a person to look back and learn the story of their ancestors. And after it all the blood line still survived in order to make a famous woman act in the titanic. Super cool
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Hell is in Finland not Sweden.
Hel is in Finland, Hell is in Norway ;)
@@LeNaSmileyStar is it oops 😬 I knew I should have checked ✔️ Sorry Norway it is 🇧🇻😆
Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer 😇
@@robharris8844U And that´s the flag of Iceland, not Norway..😉
@@TobbeRocks 🇧🇻 you so right 😒🤪🤦♀️😆
I KNOW HOW POOR WE WERE... AND JUST ABOUT ALL RELATIVES...AND IN DOING FAMILY RESEARCH PROBABLY GOES BACK CENTURIES IN "OLD" COUNTRIES....I KNOW THE COBLE line of my family fled religious prosecution in two or more countries( wife was Mennonite ...unfortunately almost all of them died at hands of I believe Dekware Indians in 1700's.
Excuse me 3x great grandfather I apologize for the inaccuracies
Sparreholm?? Where is this?
Sparreholm is in Södermanland in Sweden.
About 95 km southwest of Stockholm.
But I think they say it's Sperlingsholm, which is about 2 km north of Halmstad.
@@Asa...S thank you for clearing it out! I live in Gothenburg so not too far from here, so cool.
How do you sluater a bee?
I wish she is related Titanic passenger/survivor related because she played Rose in Titanic
They’re dead, you’re new history
Current people who do this are criminalized the same way
Winnie the Pooh would have stolen the honey as well.
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Those were not the good old days.
I have an ancestor that went to jail for spitting on the sidewalk. Things have changed. Half baseball players were arrested.
I find out i had turkish ancestors cause this person came to my country cause the ottoman empire had just fallen
Terrible story. Good heavens. Well at least some child lived because she is here.
Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer 😇
This system of "token" payment existed for coal miners in west virginia in modern times 😢
No one mentioned that she arrived in an overall as if she had flown to the meeting on her own plane? Ok, just me.
An how does that impact life now it doesn't move on so ridiculous.
So she has Swedish ancestry, interesting.
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The rich alway kept poor under the thumb…it has not changed , with the lobbying rules intended to keep masses under the thumb
Terrible news Kate.
The estate owner was a slave owner. He made it so they could never leave. Absolutely evil.
get a grip. happens to the best of us.
Well, most of her films are criminal....
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Bwaa Hwaa
that’s a good one 100%
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 now I see why. Low key roasting her.
The names of her ancestors sound Scandinavian, not British.
Why does anyone care about the past? You are you, now is now.
You don't think knowing about the past is important?
I care very much. I owe a debt to those who went before and gave me the life I have today.
She wouldn't exist if they hadn't existed, struggled, survived. It makes you appreciate those who came before you and appreciate what your life is now.
Because history repeats itself if we don’t learn from our mistakes.
Don’t you feel Pride and gratefulness to your ancestors?