FNP-9: "A Sig for Less" by Nutnfancy, Pt 1
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- Updated Sept 2009: A quality polymer framed Sig-like pistol for around $450? Impossible? Not really. Check out the well-made and fully ambidextrous FNP handgun in this two part series by Nutnfancy (also check out my DuraCoat update vid on this great little gun). This pistol comes from the hard working and innovative FN Group which has long standing and strong ties to American arms manufacture, dating back to the days of John Moses Browning. They know how to make good, strong guns and the FNP DA/SA series showcases that expertise well. This reviewed FNP9 is representative of the series (available in .40, .45, and .357 Sig cals too) and has many impressive features. These include outstanding ergonomics, incredible lightweight (24.6 oz!), kindergarten-simple field strip, high accuracy and reliability, adequate firepower (16 rds), Sig-like dedicated decocker (ambi mounted), hammer-forged barrel, good sights, good trigger, bobbed hammer, 1911 grip angle, three included magazines (great job FN!) and a very reasonable price. Possible criticisms would include a perplexingly thin-walled barrel (no doubt saves weight), shorter sighting radius. a loud de-cock snap, controls reversed from the Sig series, expensive extra mags, and a mag release that buries in the frame a bit. I have come to appreciate its polished SS mags although not very non-tactical. But to hold a FNP9 is to appreciate its amazing lightness, the outstanding ergos of the grip and its smooth decocking lever, and its superb pointability. Despite a few drawbacks, it remains an outstanding pistol design that appears to be world class. It is indeed very Sig-like but at a much lower cost and substantially lighter weight. Nutnfancy predicts it will prove to be equally reliable and steadfast over the years. ////////////////Nutnfancy Likeability Scale: 9 out of 10////////////Thanks to Impactguns.com for hosting this and many other TNP reviews!/////////////// If you own a gun of ANY kind and are not a member of the NRA you need to change your ways. Political battles rage that serve to disarm you, leaving you the potential victim of criminals who have NEVER obeyed gun laws. Join the NRA today for five years at a time and donate generously to the NRA/ILA. This is a patriotic, freedom organization that fights tirelessly to maintain our freedoms and it advocates no political party. Comparison to Glock 17, Nutnfancys 9mm standard: WEIGHT: Advantage FNP9 by 1 ounce FIREPOWER: Advantage G17 by at least 1 round DURABILITY: Advantage G17 durable for over 100,000 rounds ACCURACY: Tie ERGONOMICS: Advantage FNP9 (1911 grip angle preferable) SIMPLICITY: Tie ACCESSORIES: Advantage G17 by large margin, many available and mags are cheaper PRICE: Advantage FNP9 in most cases TRACK RECORD: Advantage G17 so far, proven world wide for decades
Just a quick correction:
John M. Browning first went to FN when he designed his Auto-5 Shotgun. He took it to Winchester first, as usual, but he told them he wanted royalties on this design rather than selling the design outright. Winchester refused, so he went to visit FN in Belgium. They were more than happy to pay him royalties. This started a long and profitable relationship.
The HP didn't come around until much later. Check out the book, "John M Browning, American Gunmaker."
Best review I've seen so far. Clear and straight to the point. Thx for the upload, subbed.
Don't really get why all these "macho dudes" bash 9 mm so much. Military and police both use it in a prevalent manner, no?
Love the comment on "normal capacity magazines." High capacity has become an anti-gun scare term.
Hey Mr. Fancy!
Just wanted to say thanks for doing a review on the FNP 9mm.
It really helped me narrow down my list of guns that I was looking at.
I bought a NIB FNP-9 USG Stainless model about a month and a half ago.
This is my first handgun and I couldn't be happier with my decision.
So thanks again for the great vids!
Ty
I bought an FNP-9 with the green handle on nutn's recommendation. I couldn't be happier. I took it to a competition a while ago and did well for my first time. Great pistol, AND it comes with THREE MAGS!
I was won a ipsc match prodcution devision with my FNP-9 !! A very light and accurate handgun!!
I love how I search for reviews on possible 9mm's or whatever firearm I'm into as research and you always come up! haha Thanks, Nutn.
Another kick ass video! Plus a little history lesson. Keep up the great work and we all really appreciate the time you spend to make these vids.
I carry the FNP-9 concealed with an Alien Gear IWB holster....first IWB holster ive ever had and i carry this fine no problems.. Alien Gear IWB holsters are very comfortable IMO. Ive thought about getting a compact or sub compact as well but moneys tight and like i said this is a good fit for me for CCW.
I just got my FNP9 and I love it
I own a FNP-9 and I don't have anything bad to say about it. I've shoot over 500 rounds through it with no troubles. A well made handgun.
I bought a police trade in SIG Pro in .40 for $350. It is a fantastic pistol.
I heard about this handgun from a friend, and I just knew that if it was any good Nutn would have a review of it.
You rock, man. Can always count on you for excellent reviews.
I LOVE my FN FNP 9. It was my daily carry gun it deff can be concealed with a crossbreed supertuck IWB holster. Although I did find it a bit to big switched to a S&W M&P 9C. Although the FN remains my bedside gun, just because this thing is a tank and I deff. can trust my life to this gun any day of the week in any situation.
I got the sp2022 about a week ago and my friend is getting the FNP-9 in about a week so I will keep you posted after we hit up the range. I have put ~400 rounds through my SP2022 without any problems.
i love how glocks look like they're built as only what is needed to fire
Just picked up a FNP-9 USG recently, since FN has a new model out and the brown frame wasn't selling that well = very nice price. Best bang for your buck period. It was 200 less then most of it's competitors, except the Ruger SR9. The USG version is like if a Sig p226 and a HK USP merged and had an offspring = awesome. The internal frame rails have more metal than the HK or Glock, and can be replaced, since the internals are not cast with the frame like most composites = Big long term plus
Mr. Nutnfancy,
I just ordered an FNS-9 to add to the collection and hasn't come in yet. What are your thoughts on there new pistol?
Mr. Nutnfancy my name is Sgt. Cedeno, Hector United States Army any chance on a review on the FNS 9? I really respect your opinion and the work u do
I have an M44, freaking love that gun.
If you need something for bears, a Mossberg 500 loaded with slugs is a good choice. For lighter weight, a Puma 92 .44mag carbine is a good way to go (own this gun, it is a sweet rifle). For even lighter weight, the Ruger Redhawk and my personal favorite, the Taurus Tracker (own it, love it), can do the job. Of course, a Marlin 45-70 should never be overlooked for potent bear medicine.
@katebakske 9mm is usually around $15-$20 a box, .40 S&W is usually $26-$30 a box, .45 ACP is usually $28-$35 a box
I had one and can say if they did not fix a few of the main problems I had to fix then dont do it but if they fixed them then it would be ok. The trigger assembly never felt right also the slide lock was so far back that the slide had to be notched further to function. The ramp needed moded and polished to feed most ammos. The guid rod is aluminum thus leaving shavings all over and a scared up guid rod after only a few hundred rounds.
I love FN. own the FNS 40. It's a great pistol. Looking into a 9mm FN. then, maybe one day .... The Five Seven!
Unlike the Ruger SR9 (which I like too), the FNP's stainless slide is of a matte/satin finish, so it is not very reflective. The black slides are even less reflective, but it's mostly personal taste.
I wish it was that simple. It's a proprietary spring and to the best of my knowledge, no one has come out with replacement springs for it.
No, it's not shiny and doesn't glare at all. I have the model you speak of, and couldn't be happier with it. Just put a streamlight TLR-3 tactical flashlight on it to finish it off. Looks nice and aggressive, but still clean. A very powerful pistol. But I opted for the .40 cal model. Amazing gun. I would go for the stainless & black model.
I have this gun and it's awesome...
@SPeacock It's intended to replace the FNP line. I have just acquired a 9 to go with my 45 and after 700 rounds, it's freakin' awesome! Shoots a little low and right out of the box, but was awesome.
.45 ACP all the way. reciol is similar and accualy a bit more user frindly in .45.
If you looking to go to .45 this is a good option, but Nutn isnt lying about 9mm...it is severly under rated.
We used FN m16 in boot for the USMC, great rifle.
From a defensive point of view, I do like the stainless finish on the mags. Most situations will happen at night, finding a black mag is extremely difficult. Maybe, pulling an extra mag out of a drawer at night, or maybe from the floor if dropped which is a possibility in a high stress situation. So a finish that can pick up even a little bit of light I think is a good thing in a defensive situation. Now if we were talking about a spec ops point of view then I guess stainless finish is bad.
I didn't know FN manufactured the Hi-Power.
Cool.
The FNP has a hammer. You can get the trigger group configured with safety, decocker, or safety and decocker. The FNS is a striker fired version of this pistol.
a couple notes in my FNP-45 rounds are blackend everything is ambidextrous I have the all black version, gun is very durable has steel inserts.
As far as I can tell, his definition is:
A concealed-carry weapon permit holder who makes their best effort to carry their weapon 24/7, 365, and generally looks out for his fellow (often ignorant) man (For example, helping where help is needed like first aid).
sup fancy i bought it and its an awesome gun. there was only one issue thru my first 100 rounds it jammed. i cleaned it before and lubed right. i figure it was only the first 100 to 150 rounds and it was after them it fires on command even with reloads love the gun.
the jams or failure to eject or feed in this case happend with pmc ammo keep up the awsome work and the fight for knifes man.
Shot the Glock 22~200 rounds on different occassions, and had difficulty with accuracy. After some research I discovered my problem. Glock's handle angle is different from the 1911 handle angle, [which are most of the guns I shoot HK,Sig,Kimber,Walter,DE]. My recomendations, If you decide to shoot glock stick with glock, but if you want to buy several different pistol of different manufactors, be aware that the grip angles are different and you may have some trouble adjusting,like me.good luck
love nutnfancy reviews.
I just purchased the FNP45. haven't shot it yet. love the fact that it carries 15rounds ( I live in jersey so 15rds is a must in my opinion) That being said, he's right about when they say it comes with high cap mags when it was already designed for it. its like saying the corvette comes with a high horsepower engine. good point nutnfancy.
I bought a FNP-9 at the factory after taking a tour of the SC plant. Can't beat the sub $400 price!
@katebakske usually there are 50 rounds in a box, in some self-defense rounds there are 20 rounds due to the elevated cost
ok after more testing last weekend i put about 200 rounds continuous in rapid fire, not a single choke after that i put 100 more in target practice and my girlfriend at 25 ft put 16 bullets in almost the same hole and this gun is amazing. is for sure hands down an improved sig 226 and is a breeze for left or right handed shooters. not to mention how flippin accurate it is. if you want more info contact me,
I handled this weapon today, I have never shot an FNP9 but it did feel good in the hand, for me at least.
NO, the FNUSA factory is in Columbia, SC. The home offices are in Virginia.
if you have the money for it, and want outstanding reliability and a gun that will never fail you when you need it, then just go with the sig.
but if you dont have enough spending money to buy a sig, the FNP is a great alternative.
I don't see the point of having a non-conceal carry gun if it's just a 9mm. Why not get something with more power?
@joescmu How would it melt? The frame does not get hot, the steel barrel is what gets hot and unless you're shooting hundreds of rounds as fast as you can without stopping, even the barrel does not get that hot.
Many people will agree with you 100%, I will go FN or SR9 anytime.
Any chance of a review on the FNS 9 ?
Its been given a negative connotation by the MSM and other anti-gun advocates. So instead of playing into their games a lot of people have started saying standard capacity. Which is what it truly is. They may be higher capacity magazines that other pistols but they are not high capacity magazines. A true high capacity magazine is variable from firearm to firearm and what one would consider higher capacity than standard magazines that ship with the firearm.
I bought one of these about a year ago partially based on this video and love the gun.
This video was made in 08...prices for pistols have gun up. Plus it depends on where and what state you live in.
My local shop can order it for $550+15$nics fee.
@CSRevenant The USG model does. Or you can get the newly released FNX, which also allows for condition 1.
Hey nutnfancy. I watch your knife reviews all the time. Finally I decided it's time for me to get myself a handgun. I have a rifle but a handgun is just so much more practical when it comes to going to the range. Anyway, I'm debating between this model, the Ruger SR9C and the Glock 19. They all feel and shoot great for me personally but I wanted opinions from experienced gun owners such as yourself or other nutnfancy video viewers. Please experienced people bring it on.
so many good options out there i think im gonna buy one of each..
Just letting you know you convinced me to get this gun! Keep the reviews comming!
Whoa, good mention on the standard cap mags, especially now.
If someone is wondering which models I mean: SCAR, PS-90, FS-2000. Even FNP series are sold under Browning brand and in stainless steel (no thanx). But guess what, even Browning is imported to Finland by company specialized in hunting guns&ammo, so no pistols there either. In pistols, I will stick with Glock.
I fell in love with this gun today. Thanks nutnfancy. Let's see this one in action sometime, yeah?
Hey NF, not all of us are "running and gunning" and dont really care about the weight. In fact, for home use or for use by small shooters or women a heavy gun has less recoil, which is better than a light gun.
Having shot both an SR9 and the newer FNX, the SR9 doesn't even come close in terms of quality or ergo's to FN's product(s). Looking forward to picking up an FNX 9 in the nearish future.
I think Nutn's comparison of the FNP to the Sig is very accurate. I'd say it is competitive with the HK P30 or USP offerings as well.
I wish the fnx had kept the same grips as the fnp 9
I thought that John Browning went to FN b/c Winchester wanted to sit on the Auto-5?
From my experience and I'm no gun nut. I shot this and it feels top heavy but once you fully load it. It feels very neutral and I guess it could be considered lighter feeling on a draw out or a shooting situation???
I think this gun is perfectly fine.one of my buddy concealed the 45 caliber version every day and you cant even tell and he is not big either.Same thing towards sigs I like there big fat bulky looks that makes the gun intimedating and thats what you want. who gives the damn they heavy more weight better control specially if you shoot +p+ rounds.I love they way sigs,glocks,f&h,h&k comes.weight never been a issue for me cus I make my body use to carrying few extra ounces and practice running with
Question: Any insight as to why FN went away from the SIG 357 caliber?
For way less than $200, it can be converted to .40 SW with just the change of the barrel. Same Magazine works on both calibers.
the 17 is a larger gun..the fnp 9 should be compared to the 19 if you ask me...which im sure is much lighter than the fnp
I cannot find an FN ANYWHERE and I live in the city where they are produced, Columbia, SC. I would buy online but I must handle it first to ensure I can operate the weapon safely with my injured hand. I wish the company would distribute better.
Saftey check should always be enforced right away. It reminds viewers to follow protocal. Also viewers who might not be informed. Basically...it sets a good example to the people watching.
the one thing i hate is that there are not many options on holsters for this gun....you can get a blade tech if you get the shooters pack...or custom kydex from a service ...but blackhawk! doesnt make one...although I've read that it will fit in a S&W mp serpa...not sure though..
Excellent point Sportimus.
@DEMCAD
Most all handguns are underpowered and should be used as target specific weapons,, even a .45cal. You should never think that one or two shots center mass is gonna take a man down. These aren't riffles! So targets and shot placement always rule in the handgun world. A 9mm is very efficient at doing the job and increased round capacity before reload is always a plus given you know how to shoot proficiently.
I've been stretching them out ever since I bought the gun. I can stretch and stretch. Reassemble the mag, put no more then 10 rounds in it, and the mag won't lock the slide back. Why would I want a gun where I have to continually stretch the mag springs just to make it function the way it should?
@Patriot1790 Yeah, I pretty much pick out the facts from the video such as the weight, Number of rounds it holds, location of the safety, pistol breakdown, etc. I pretty much block out the Glock comments.
Oh right now, these guns come with free ear and eye gear (mail in rebate) and also comes with 3 mags, which is an added bonus
i own the fnp 9mm i dont regret it it kicks ass
depending on how much money you have you should (on a budget) go glock or (youve got some cash waiting to be spent) go SIG or (if you want expensive polymer) go h&k
@Miceman25, I dont know if newer fn's have a different stronger spring? I find it hard to fully load my mags because the spring is so stiff.
You know here in europe we dont get the FN-version of this gun! Here we can only get the browning version. Yes indeed, it says browning on the slide!
Strange ; )
Hey Nutnfancy, very good vid as always. Just a thought.. I'd be more worried bout the two tone finish of the slide being non tactical than the finish of the mags. Just my 2 cents..
The stainless mags don't bother me all that much if the POU is that of a service pistol. If you're doing black ops I'm sure you will not have the stainless mags let alone a pistol with the stainless finish slide. It's more of a cosmetic issue than really any thing else in the correct POU. Will I use that pistol on a Covert Night Ops mission? No. Would I use it as my side arm duty pistol whether be it a cop, armed security officer, or armored car guard? Yes.
@Patriot1790 The problem I have with the "Nutnfancy is a Glock lover!" argument is this:
He has made if perfectly clear on more than one occasion that he prefers the Sig P226/228 series over the Glock 17 in most situations.
im really torn between a fnp9 or a ruger SR9
i kinda like the ruger SR9 cause it docent look like a glock as much as the FNP.
@SPeacock The USG's have been out for awhile. You can pick 'em up on broker for $400 right now, since the FNX has come out. The FNX combines the 45's control's and adds one round to the mag. 17+1. NICE!
@nhblackdc5 It may function like a sig, but the weight, price, and capacity is closer to a G17.
Seems pretty similar to the Sig Pro SP2022 9mm... can we expect to see a review on the Sig Pro? I think I saw a clip of the Sig Pro being shot in your review of the TLR-3....
Buying this gun on Friday :) for a VERY good price(black + night sights).
Nutn, I've recently found out about the Sig SP2022 which definitely is "A Sig for Less" from $399-$500. Could you review that thing? Felt nice in the hand
Hey nutn I was wondering when are you going to do a review on the RIA 1911 Tactical? I've been debating on this or getting this FNP in 40 or a Sigma...any thoughts??
Does this pistol allow for condition one carry? Or does initiating the safety decock it?
You can use instant blue for blueing the shiny magazines. Works great. (unless you already knew that)
@toyotafjc With a plus 2 baseplate, which is very cheap to buy, you can achieve 19 rounds.
beretta is a Italian company and the m9 is made for our military in the states.
Just shot my FNP.45
The recoil reduction was just amazing
felt like i was shooting a .40
Any chance on an FNS review? Wanna know what you think about the FNPs striker fire brother. Worth the extra money or no? Anyone on an opinion?
Between that and the CZ SP-01 how could it get much better?
Thank you for this video.
I'm VERY interested in this pistol.
How about using a product like Cold Blue on the mag?
good review as always. only thing i will say is that my fnp is closer in size to my glock 19. in that case i think comparing the full size g17 mag capacity isnt fair to the ruger or fnp. since the ruger and glock both had the smaller 4 inch barrel, they are more comparable to the g19. in that case mag capacity is 15rds. could always get the extension though
does nutnfancy plan to review the sig 2022, I think it is very similar to this gun and would like his opinion on this.
Ssstealth.. Good points all mate. I'm in the UK so it's moot point to me tho.. I'd rather an aggressor be able to see my weapon so I'd have to say I'd go for the two tone. My previous post was just a talking point ;-)
I'm 17. If I buy this gun (Well, my Dad right now) will it last me the rest of my life? I don't think I'll ever carry a gun on me but I do want to have it for hunting, shooting with my friends, and just to have handy. I've held a Glock 19 and it feels great. Should I spend the extra money on the Glock or this? If any other suggestions please help he out. Also, I really want to try and spend under $500.