Kel-Tec PF-9: "Daily Carry Handgun" Pt 1 by Nutnfancy
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The Kel-Tec PF-9 is a great alternative to the Kahr PM series of polymer framed pistols. It costs less than half the price and yet offers excellent accuracy, reliability, firepower, lightweight, and outstanding carry comfort. And it some ways, as discussed in the video, it even beats the Kahr PM series (PF-9: thinner, longer sight radius, 1 extra round, longer grip but still ultra concealable). Against the Kahr CW series, it compares in value but weighs a substantial 3 ounces less. As shown in my companion shooting video, the PF-9 is a good shooter too once you learn the trigger and get accustomed to the somewhat snappy recoil. It can readily serve as a concealed carry option, officers backup gun, or as a possible all-around home defense pistol as well (a lighter weight, more concealable gun like the PF-9 could prove to be more versatile and more used by the homeowner in the long run). Initial production versions of the Kel-Tec PF-9 were fraught with reliability and quality problems and some may mistakenly think these issues persist. They dont. Those have all been fixed and current iterations are providing stellar service with their users (reference ktog.org for specific serial number issues if purchasing a used PF-9). For most users, the PF-9 will last your lifetime as well. Overall, it is a high value gun that is backed up with typically great Kel-Tec customer service. /////////////Nutnfancy Initial Likeability Scale: 9 of 10
I picked up a pf 9 at a local gun show for about $260.00. Great little gun, your review convinced me to pick one up, thanks.
I'm often looking your videos, I don't understand everything but I can say that you're lucky guys in USA !! Hi from France !!
Got a new PF9 this week. Went to the range today and put 90 FMJ and 50 JHP through my new toy. It functioned flawlessly! Shot 2 handed and single handed, Also Right and Left handed. No Issues what so ever.
I am Very Glad I chose the PF9!!
This gun is really nice. It will be my new everyday carry. Very light, Very accurate, Very reliable.
Thanks
Dec 2015 Bought one used for $200 shipped. I ran about 100 rounds through it without a single hitch. It does have a sharp recoil. I would say it kicks more than my SW .40. It took me about 3 or 4 magazines to figure out how to make it accurate because of the long trigger pull, but by the time I finished shooting, I had a 2" group at 7 yards, and I am not a pistol shooter by any means. It was easy to break down and clean. It took me a little more effort to put it back together, but once I figured it out, it was easy. I plan to use this for concealed carry and I will obviously run a lot more rounds through it in practice. If anything goes wrong, I will repost here.
My mom and I went in on a PF9 for a CCW for my dad. Ironically my mom carries a Ruger SR9 (a full sized pistol with 17 rd mag) but my father was wanting a smaller handgun for comfort #logic and it was hard not going with a Ruger LCP. We love Rugers (I have a Ruger AR .556 10/22 and again my mother carries a SR9). This is a second Nutn inspired pistol and we trust and love this dude. Keep em comin' Nutn' and we'll keep buyin'! God Bless you and your family!
i just got this gun today, after wanting one for YEARS!!! one thing i havent heard anyone say is how good the grip texture feels. and its like a baby made from a sig 226 and a makarov. i just love it!
After a lot of research on several different carry guns and finally decided to go with the .9mm Kel-Tec PF9, partly because of Nutnfancys reviews.
After I thoroughly cleaned and lubed the PF9, I took it to the range for the break-in.
I ran a hundred rounds of Win FMJ through the gun, followed by 2 mags of my planned carry ammo (Horn. CD).
Then, I ran another 100 rnds of Win. FMJ, and then the remaining 10 rnds of the carry ammo through it.
I had zero failures of any kind.
when i was first in the marines, our instructors that taught us how to shoot made us shoot on the side of your dominant eye. they are professionals who have been teaching for quite a while. you are correct in shooting left handed. you will train and learn to become comfortable with it.
I'm happy to see you liked the PF-9. I went through almost the same points when trying to decide on a carry pistol, and everything you covered is 100% true in my findings as well. Kel-Tec is a great company and I hope they have continued success!
Yes exactly, there was a live round in the chamber pulled the trigger and nothing. with this gun you can pull the slide back slightly and reset the hammer. I had to do this two or three times before the round would fire. Im happy to say someone purchased this firearm from me and its no longer my problem...
I bought a PF9 about 3 years ago and have loved it up until 3 months ago. My daughter and I were at the range and she was shooting the Keltec when it began to jam. We would clear each jam and try again. It would fire a shot or two and jam, and then it started failing to go into battery. We stopped shooting and upon inspection found major deformation inside the slide at the front of the ejection port and a little damage on the barrel. I sent the gun back to Keltec and finally, after 11 weeks, I get the gun back looking like new with a new slide, frame and according to the paperwork, possibly other internal parts not specifically listed. It was a fine gun intil this catastrophic failure. A cop friend of mine says he's known others who say exactly the same thing. Within a few days of getting it back from Keltec, I traded it for a Sig P938. I just won't trust the Keltec any longer. I still shudder everytime I think of the potential damage to my daughter had the gun came apart while she was shooting.
Bought my PF9 on your recommendation and love it! Inspired by your video's, I made a point to carry every day since my 21st birthday. Some of your philosophy videos really hit home and made me realize how important it is for me to be prepared and carry every day, not only for myself, but also for others. Thank you for all of the knowledge, tips, and tricks you have imparted on all of your viewers. More importantly, keep up the good work!
I've carried this pistol daily for the last 6months in an IWB holster at 4o clock, comfortable as hell and Sometimes even forget it's there. I bring it to the range as much as possible and have put 1200+ rounds through it. At first I had many ftfe and fte due to the exactractor spring. Got that fixed by Kel Tec free and the gun has ran great ever since. I definitely trust this gun to go bang when it needs to and not when it Shouldn't.
I got one on 4-17-14 Thank you Nutnfancy! I love its size and weight. I have carried it every day since.
Just purchased my PF-9 a couple days ago! Only put about 50 rounds through it so far, and I absolutely love it!! Thank you for the fantastic table top! Also had my options down to the Kel Tec PF-9 and the Ruger LC9! Your shoot off vid really helped me make my decision on which firearm to purchase as an EDC weapon! Thanks alot and keep the awesome vids coming! Love what you do bro!
my pf-9 functions perfectly, then again I do not see any need in shooting hundreds of rounds through it, it is a defensive pistol. there are plenty of other target pistols and other means for practice and developing your shooting skills, save this one for when you need it.
"do you all think that the springfield xd subcompact is a better gun to carry as a concealed weapon?" Not really dude. The Glocks and the XDs are great guns but they are too THICK for comfortable CCW for me. I prefer something like this.
I love my PF9. I carry it a lot in the summer. it shoots well and carries great. I have had no problems out of it.
I have a PF9, love this little gun. Never had an issue with any ammo, and it shoots fairly good for such a tiny gun. It's definitely one you will "shoot a little, carry a lot". It slips right into my coat pocket, and nobody needs to know it's there until I want them to. Of course, I prefer a .45 1911, but when I can't OC, this is my next best choice, and makes sure I don't go anywhere unarmed.
Just picked up my PF-9, put 66 rounds through. Accurate, smooth trigger, and no malfunctions. Snappy recoil but thats expected. I kept the last 8 of the defense rounds (Golden Sabre). Great purchase that disappears on my person, I'd recommend it for sure! You Rock Nutn!
I just bough a PF-9 and ran 100 rounds of fmjs in it w/ only two fte's (probably my fault) ran some hornady defensive rounds through it too without a hitch. Just remember as with any firearm clean it before you shoot it and the every time after a range trip... Don't trust your life to a dirty gun
I bought a PF-9 last year. Now it is my primary carry gun and I bought another one as well. My Makarov has now officially been retired from carry.
Great review. I really appreciate how you always talk about philosophy of use, responsibility, etc., not just features and figures. Always excellent. Thanks for all the work you put in.
I see a few consider the PF9 inferior but I know of 3 that have been flawless. I have never had a problem with all the rounds fired through mine and the accuracy is very good. Yes, one can find a better pistol (and pay a lot more) but as long as you don't abuse the PF9 it will perform when necessary. For concealed carry, you can't beat it.
Joe Collins amen
I'm supposed to be saving my money but the more I hear and read about Kel-Tec the more I want to buy one for myself! At $250 give or take a few it's just so damn tempting.
Cool review. I can't wait to demo one for myself.
I havve a PF 9 that I typically carry as a backup weapon. My primariy is typically a g23 or g36. I just like the bigger caliber as a primary. The PF 9 fits nicely in a front pocket with a Galco holster. I used my dremmel to polish the feed ramp and it made a noteable difference in feeding reliability. My first few times firing the weapon I had to conciously keep my thumb from engaging the mag release. If you are going to carry this weapon, practice, practice, practice. Thanks, Nutn!!
i have read alot of bad reviews on the pf9 however mine has been flawless 1080 rounds 2 brands of fmj and 2 brands hp ,all were 115 grain though,grip sleeve helps alot and the trigger is really not that bad imo and its fairly accurate.its the gun i carry most ,no doubt at all relying on it.
So has mine, out of the box has been flawless with pmc 115 grain fmj and 147 grain hornady customs. Recoil isnt anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be.
darton2010sean agree with all but the grip sleeve. NO self defense gun should have a slip on grip sleeve. They have the nasty habit of moving and interfering with the mag release when you cant really afford it to.
Nutn, I just traded off my SR40c for a PF9. I also own a Sig P290, and I can say that you were right about the P290 being so thick and heavy. The PF9 is so much lighter. Can't wait to get out and put some rounds through it. Thanks for the info.
Let us know how many malfunctions you have with your PF9!
I have had no failures with my fluff and buff PF9. Added the MTK9 Night Sights from eBay. Couldn't ask for a better and lighter carry gun.
ALPHADOG8NINE Dude you traded a SR40C for a PF9.......are you crazy!!??
***** Maybe, but I do like carrying the PF9 better. I alternate between it and a G23. (When outside belt carry is feasible)
ALPHADOG8NINE Well I mean did you straight trade?? Because the Ruger is worth more. Thats more of what I was getting at.
Nice review. The PF9 is my father's carry gun. He's got a number of others that are heavier or larger and therefore, as you've said, less comfortable for carry.
gun show in houston texas few weeks ago saw about 4 pf-9s there, i was glad to see a few kel tecs for once
I purchased one of these firearms and was impressed with the light weight and accuracy of the firearm. I ened up selling it due to repeated jams with hollow-points, even after return to the factory for repair. Also, the mag would fall out, without my hitting the mag release (I was carefull to be sure it was not my error). I also know two other people who have Kel-Tec .32s and both of them have serious isses with malfunctions. One had FTF issues and the other was not extracting properly.
Same thing, people have had hit or miss with the warranty. Just look around and you can find plenty of stories of multiple trips back to kel tec and still not fixed properly. Look on here and KTOG. Hopefully they do get their act together but right now I would look elsewhere.
Both Ruger and Kahr have good reputations. I went the CM9 route and have been very happy with it. Zero malfunctions and well over a thousand rounds.
I just picked up one of these used and it runs perfectly. My P11 that I had some years ago was good as well.
I have carried a g26 for about 6 months. I picked up a pf9 about a week ago. the pf9 is a pleasure to carry compared to the g26. I bet the pf9 gets carried way more often. I can carry the pf9 in pocket, the g26 I can not. I baught both based on the info given from nutn. I love them both, thanks nutn and veri
I bought a PF9 a couple of months back and now use it for my EDC. It's the gun everyone loves to hate, but I really do not understand why, it's great little gun! Just as this review reiterates: powerful, small, comfortable, and not that it matters...but I think it looks pretty cool too. I've only shot about 100 rounds through mine, but it was 100% spot on, no problems what so ever.
I don't know about all the PF9 hate, but as far as Kel-Tec goes, I haven't seen any problems with my P3AT. I've been carrying it for a few years now, and I've run about 250 rounds through it with absolutely NO failures of any kind.
No FTF, FTE, stovepipe, no broken parts, nothing. It has been absolutely flawless.
Oh, and the only time I've cleaned it was after I got shoved into a swimming pool with it.
250 rounds is a shit sample size and why don't you clean your gun?
*****
That shows what you know. 250 round is a huge amount for a brand new gun to run without a single failure. If you want to know how good a gun lasts without wearing out or something like that, it takes more, sure. As for why I didn't clean it, it's because of a few things: I took it out with a pile of ammo, and I'm not going to stop and clean it in the field. As if a person couldn't run 9 mags through an AR-15 without cleaning it, get real. When I got done, it wasn't dirty. Maybe it's the ammo, mostly it's the locked breech design. And, if the damn thing will work dirty, it will work clean.
Any other questions?
I cant believe 2009 was 6 years ago...
I heard Will Farrell smoked pot with you.
And Sloan Kettering, they were blazing that shit up.
+Jimmy Hopkins you keep your nose clean, or we'll clean it for you.
So far i've been impressed. It fits in the palm of your hand. You an slip it in a pocket and carry it all day. Something a P-35 can't do. I would suggest folks use the mag base extension for control As well as Tractiongrips for slippery polymer pistols. I would also add on Laserlyte sights that replace the rear sight over the CTC trigger guard laser. More compact & no special holster needed. I would tell anybody looking at .380 acp's to consider this gun instead. 9mm Para power in a PPK size.
I see it's been asked before, But I'll reiterate because I haven't seen an answer: What do you think of the Kel-Tek P11?
I just purchased a Blue & grey model PF-9 at a Gun show last week end. My reasons match your review rather closely. For years, I've been a Hi-power shooter and needed a second lighter carry gun. My choices came down to the Kel tec, the Taurus pt740 slim series in .40 S&W. While the Taurus was better finished, came in .40s&w, and had a real safety for a $100 more; I bought the Kel tec for $ 300 with tax & fees. It felt less blocky, lighter & the trigger felt better.
Creepy, i was researching this gun today, and of course checked to see if Nutn had a review. There wasn't one, and here I come on a little later, and BAM! PF-9 review.. you read my mind Nutn, you rule, great review man!
Just went from a ruger lcp to a kel tec pf9 for my daily carry. Thanks for the advice. Not sure why anyone would say he is "in kel tec's pocket". He is just one data point. Don't make your buying decisions based on one guy. He speaks simply to his own experience. If it works good for him why would he give it a bad review? Stop hating
Love nutnfancy's videos. Bought a Kel-tecPF9. shot 500 round with a host of problems. The last 100 round the problems became predictable. FTF and FTE with 3 rounds in the mag. Also same issue with different mags and different ammo. Luckly I bought the insurance and it only cost me 15 buck to ship it back to kel-tec and my gun shop handled all the stuff. However it has shak'in my confidence in the weapon. God forbid with my life was on the line. I'll give it one more chance.
That's why you use hollow points like the Federal Personal Defense Ammo (Hydroshock). Once it enters the body, it's already started mushrooming and just begins ripping through the internal organs. My CCW instructor (former cop) showed us such a bullet after it had been fired (looked wicked)...and he told us that it had entered the perp in the left side of the ribcage and traversed through half the body before stopping (ripped up every organ along the way). Needless to say, guy had a bad day.
Those having issues with "mag drops" with pf9's thats YOUR problem, not the gun, adjust your grip and keep your thumb away from the mag release. the pf9 is actually a great gun.
I own this gun, Its very good...small and like nutnfancy talked about. When I had it in my jeans pocket in house I totally forgot I did till late in evening. Very good conceal carry gun. Only thing I don't like is the kick when shooting but this is because the light weight and thin small grips.
From other reviews it looks like SCCY has a good affordable 9mm too. Thanks for another good video. Stay safe and God bless.
I love mine
The SCCY have some FTE FTF problems. I would suggest the Taurus Millennium G2. $260 if the store cuts you a good deal. I have one and absolutely love it. I would also suggest the Kahr CM9. It is around the $325 and one of the smallest single stack 9mm in the game. Other ones to consider is the M&P Shield, it's down to $350 and very reliable.
I owned a SCCY CPX-2
Felt like a lot of quality for the money, but I could not get past the trigger. Thing beat me up shooting it
just pick up a Kel Tec PF-9 today based on a few of your vids of this gun! can't wait to get it to the range and practice with it also while buying this gun i also signed up for a ccw class! once im comfortable with my pistol and get enough training with it i plan on carrying all the time!
I picked up my Kel Tec after this review and test firing one at Impact Guns, I was looking for something concealable for edc, when my XD subcompact, couldn't chine along easily. I love this gun, super reliable and a blast to shoot. I've had it 6 months, take it shooting nearly every week and have shot hundreds of rounds through it with no problems.
Ok, I'm sold! As the owner of a Glock 27 and a Ruger LCR, I find them both too thick to carry comfortably. The Glock is just too big and heavy for my body frame. Sure, the LCR is a great pocket gun but it is still thick. Since 9mm ammo is so much cheaper I think I'm going to find a new friend with the PF-9. This looks like a gun I won't want to leave home. Thanks for the great review.
Paper work is in, now just the stupid 2 day waiting period and I pick up my PF9. Unbelievable how thin that pistol is. WOW are those sights tight. Can't wait to pick up and to fire.
I love my PF9, its the most comfortable 9mm subcompact for me, period. Would like to thank you for the Galco Classic Lite vid, it ROCKS(under the shirt is a great option w/ no jacket) I never even had jams during break in, and I am insanely shocked at the accuracy potential this gun possesses,would not hesitate to recommend this to ANY fellow CHL holder for 24/7 carry (which this gun allows me to comfortably do, and thats what endears this gun to me, it performs,as said, WAY ABOVE ITS VALUE!)
"Pt 1" I thought a 20 min nutnfancy video was too good to be true.
I have found this to be quite accurate :P
The kel-tec pf-9 is a great, high value pistol. I love mine. Users should be warned against dry fireing this pistol, as this can cause damage to the retaining screw. The feed ramps on the first gen of these pistols was inadaquate for heaver grain ammo, be sure your barrel has the new, more slender and extended feed ramp!
I've got one of these and have fired about 300 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. The Ruger LC9 is practically a direct ripoff of the PF9 at almost double the price and I haven't heard anybody bitching about the price point on those. The PF9 a pretty good little pistol in my opinion.
Yep, I hear ya. Maybe I got my Kel Tecs' before they started having quality control issues, but I am a happy customer. They do kind tick me off when they create huge demand for a product and then don't match it with supply. Ruger puts out some great stuff. I'm pretty interested in getting a 22/45 Lite, but I heard KT is coming out with a PMR 30 in 22lr. Decisions decisions.
i bought a keltec pf9 and did not get through 60 rounds before the firing pin literally fell out of the gun. so i sent it to keltec thinking that they would resolved the issues. they then sent it back about 6 weeks later and it would shoot ball ammo so so. however with any type of hollow points it would jam without fail. i spent hundreds of dollars thinking it was"just the ammo". it continued to jam. i sent it back to keltec. the issue is still unresolved. but ruger lc9 has been flawless!
Four of my shooting friends have had Kel-Tecs, buyers remorse.
thanks Nutn!
Just shot in my PF9 today for the first time today. put 100 rounds through. Experienced 100% reliability so far :)
My sister has a kel-tec pistol and it has a wallet type case that it fits in that you can shoot it out of. It's really slick and neat.
I have one of the newer pf9 models with metal mag release and redesigned feed ramp. I have fed it all of the cheap stuff (Federal, Winchester w/b, Remington) and I have put about 100 rounds of my carry ammo (Speer Gold Dot) and have never had a failure to feed, stove pipe jam, failure to eject or any faults at all. It has never failed to go "bang". I was also very surprised by the accuracy. The only problem I have is after 50 rounds this little gun hurts my elbow.
Whenever possible I carry a .40 or .45 as a primary. The larger caliber is simply a better defensive choice. A 9mm is the smallest caliber I will carry as a primary weapon. The simple fact is that I can't always carry my g23 or g36 due to clothing options. That's when I put my PF9 in my front right pocket and a spare mag in the other. I have over 500 rounds through the PF9 since polishing the feed ramp and have had zero jams. The pf9 is a solid choice once polished and broken in.
I'm currently in the market to buy and I find your videos very informative, truthful and interesting. I like the check-list you've compiled and integrate in your videos. Thanks!
I took a brand new PF9 to the range for the first time yesterday. The gun failed to extract the spent casing after every single shot. I couldn't fire twice in a row without an FTE. I sent off an email to Kel-tec this morning and I'll update this comment when I have a resolution. Given the failures, I can't trust this gun for carry. That said, it is very accurate. The sights are great, it feels good in hand, lightweight, recoil is substantial, but that's to be expected since it's so light. It kicks less than my Ruger LCP, but more than the M&P Shield. If I can fix the extractor problem, I'll be a fan. If not, I'll be asking Kel-tec for a refund.
I should add that every other gun I have purchased based on a Nutnfancy review has been flawless. And I really do mean flawless. No FTE's or FTF's whatsoever in the LCP, Shield or M&P 9. Thanks for the videos, Nutn.
any updates?
Bradley Armstrong Ya this is one f those guns that has me scratching my head that he likes...
Hey, like I said, whatever works for you.
I just carry a couple of extra clips with me (at LEAST one extra clip--slides right in the pocket and/or I carry a Kevlar clip holder that attaches to the belt for when I carry two extra clips). And I practice my release/reload in case the extra clip is needed.
I really wanted to love this little 9mm. Priced around $270. Relatively smooth trigger. Right size. But, like all Kel Tecs, real problems. I looked at several in my area and each one had major magazine release problems. This would be disasterous in combat. Local dealers also shared with me their doubts about reliability...although many carried Kel Tec P3AT's and P32's. All and all, I think the new Taurus 709 slim a better choice in this POU.
Good review and comparison. Not buying a Kahr and spending the money on a CCW for 3x more. This has all the features and build quality/reliability as the Kahr at half the price and then some.
I went with the Ruger LC9 instead and regret nothing. It just suited my POU the best, and shoots reliably. With that said, I love nutnfancy and his channel. His table tops are always illuminating. I think I've watched close to half of his videos. And that's saying something! Time well spent. Especially the Philosophy vids on his playlist - by far the best.
Glock 19, IWB, every single day since I turned of age. love that gun. it's really not uncomfortable at all in my Galco double-time holster. Everyone should at least try it if they have one. YOUR MILEAGE MAY VERY - nutn
I like carrying my XDM 3.8 compact in 9mm. I wear a Raven holster and that holster fits the gun very close to my body. I wear good shirts on hot days to cover it up and during cold days, I wear a vest or colder, i have jackets rain coats, winter coats.
So I have no problems with my gun.
I don't mind the smaller gun, they have their advantages,
Bought a PF9 this week. I shot it quite a bit today....no problems at all!
Love your videos nutn and these really helped me make the decision of getting a PF9, it is very comfy to carry and recoil isn't too terribly bad. It has been reliable so far (half a box of ammo) and going to put many more through it but I am happy with it so far.
I ordered a Glock 43 recently. I hope it fills the role well.
You are CRAZY! The Kel-Tec PF9 is UNRELIABLE.
I like the PF9 as a alternative to all the new .380's. 9mm power in a package smaller than a service gun, but close to .380 size/ 38 snub.
I agree with nutnfancy. I wish I would've found him a year ago before I bought a full-sized gun and tried to carry that. It's just too big and hard to conceal especially in the summer. I'm definitely looking into this gun especially for the price since I'm a poor college student.
Well my Father owns a Kel-Tec I believe its a P11 its just a little bit larger than the PF-9, I was shooting 60 grain high velocity rounds through it and it was very controlable. Keep in mind though Im 150 pounds and it was with light rounds, and it was from a slightly bigger and heavier gun. The recoil wasnt really that bad though especially not for the size, and Kel-Tec pistols shoot pretty well, one thing though is the DAO trigger has a really long reset that takes a while to get used to.
@BrandonSaldana I would say the PF9. It holds less ammo but it's alot thinner. If you're going to be using an Inside the Waistband holster, the thinner the handgun, the better. It's more comfortable and 7 rounds of ammo is efficient for self defense and you can always carry an extra mag in your pocket.
I have been watching your vids. I bought a few guns do to your review and have kept my eyes and ears open for a couple more.
I have the Kahr CM9. It is a great gun. It only comes with one magazine though. Much thinner and lighter than my previous Glock 36.
@BrandonSaldana That depends. The P 11 is thicker, but holds, I think, 3 more rounds. If you're going for something slim, get the PF 9 and just carry an extra mag.
@NutnButGuns
they did it so that the glock would meet the importation points requirements, so that it would be legal for importation and sale in the U.S. ; if you look at glocks built for overseas use and distribution you will notice they do not have the trigger safety
@PocketDrummer I carry the Glock 23 every day in southeast Louisiana without too much problem. I carry in the safariland SOB IWB holster and it's really comfortable and concealable underneath a simple T shirt. The Safariland that I chose has a pretty nifty belt retention system that goes between your pant and belt and then hooks underneath the belt for absolute lock against a draw motion. The retention is adjustable.
Safariland 27-83, SKU #SL-27-83. 36 bucks.
I always though the Kahr " was the only game in town" in terms of CCW. Thank goodness for Kel-Tec.
Only thing I would say about this gun is to people with big hands. The magazine butt plate extension thing that comes with the pf-9 does provide a little extension, but that lip needs to be filed down to make it useful. I still have to tuck my pinky underneath the magazine. Only other issue I'm going to have is deciding how I want to carry it and with what holster..
I carry daily and went through about 20 different guns until landing on the xds 45 as my EDC. This pf9 was by far the most painful gun one ever shot. Very lightweight and cool design, but it was also the fastest I've ever wanted to get rid of something. The ksg turned out like that as well for me. I do not recommend it if you practice a lot with your EDC, as you should. The shield and xds are way better options.
both crimson trace, and Armalaser make laser sight for the PF9. I have a PF9, and it may not be as pretty as a Kahr, but it goes bang every time you pull the trigger. over the last 3 years keltec has been tweaking the PF9, and P3AT, so the newer model are out of the box reliable, and even better finished.
Just picked this up as I'm taking my conceal carry class this month and no way I'm going to carry a Beretta 92F around. I'm not experienced with such a small and lightweight gun so I'm having trouble with not keeping a tight enough hold onto it, and as a result, my first 100 rounds through it has been wrought with jams. Practice makes perfect, right? I'm glad with the purchase none the less as I know it won't be a problem for me to carry this every day.
I now own a pf-9, its part of my everyday carry along with the springfeild 1911 I keep it in the truck, but the pf-9 stayes with me at all times, only problem I have with it is the stiff slide release, but it is slowly working its way out, have the belt clip an punitive estention on the mag, I think is a must, I also have a problem finding extra mags,
Looks like a good deal. I'll have to look into one. The painting is a good idea for CC. Paint it skin color or some other blending color. At that price you could buy and paint several for different types of clothing.
I give all firearms equal opinions before putting rounds through em and testing them out at the local range. That being said, I hear horror stories about companies like Kel-tec, Taurus, hi-point, and others. I haven't had experience with hipoints yet. Between the other two misfits, I haven't had any issues with Taurus handguns.They ate up all the 9mm and .45acp we put through them. Kel-tecs on the other hand, gave us malfunctions about once every three magazines using the same ammo that we were running through the glocks, Taurus, and px4 Berettas. I always wondered why Nutnfancy praised them so much until I went to the kel-tec website and saw all of the Nutnfancy videos on there of him praising them. Only way to truly determine the reliability of a gun is to shoot it yourselves. If I got paid to carry a pf-9, I would make sure I had a glock for backup.
just wanted to say how much i appreciated all these videos! keep up the good work!
Another awesome review! Although I have not bought a PF9, 'YET' I did get a chance to handle on today. I was worried about the size as I have large hands. With the included mag extension I can get a firm grip on the weapon. I almost made the purchase but after buying a new 870 I just could not swing a second purchase. Here in PA at the show I was at they had them in black for $174- and another fellow had the tan priced at $217-
For that kind of money I was impressed.
Again, thanks !
After installing the 20lb recoil spring & hammer spring it has been much better to shoot. The recoil is a LOT better. I carry it (and shoot it) more now. Give it a shot if you want to improve your PF9.
I like the thicker grip of the Kel Tec 11 better than the PF9 who may be too thin for some shooter.Besides the thickness both guns are the same size but with the KT 11 you can use 10, 12 or 15 rounds magzines.Also I believe they are the same price.
I have the hard chrome and black frame version and I love it! Great little pistol for use as a CCW weapon, it's intended purpose. I've had no issues with mine.
Through trainning, I was told that if you were in a fox hole 15 feet from your an enemy in his fox hole. He runs at you and you have a 9mm hand gun. It will take 9 shots to bring him down and he will fall in your fox hole. With a 40, it will take 4 rounds and he will fall forwards. But not make it to your fox hole, with a .45 it will take 1 round and he will fall back into his fox hole. Thats all with standard nato compliant rounds and with adrenaline pumping.
I just got my ccp last week and have a sub compact 9mm xd and a Ruger SP101 357 mag. Both "compacts" and thought would be nice to carry...NOT...especially the xd, too wide and heavy, uncomfortable but I didn'y know any better. So I am thinking of getting the PF-9, thanks for the review I will hopefully get one this week.
I would take the sccy cpx-2 over the kel tek pf-9. Maybe it is just me but 10+1 for the same size is a big +
The cpx-2 is a great gun I had one jam then broke it in and no problems since had 700 rounds through it
Anthony Seneck Ya I had 1 jam in the 1st 30 rounds, none since.
My buddy had one and it was a jam-o-matic! I've owned two Kel-tec PF9s and never had any issues. My experience.
The sccy is a decent firearm but it is NOT the same size
Tell us about that fantastic trigger on the PF9 Nutenfancy???