Yvresse EASY 2 Kingdom Start! (Avoid These Mistakes!)
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- Eltharion's Mortal Empires can be RUINED in the first 3 turns very easily and this scares many players away from having Eltharion rule 2 kingdoms at once. This guide will show the critical mistakes to avoid and provide the diplomatic context to help you unleash the true power of Yvresse!
For more context on the strategies discussed here, please see my High Elves Race Guide and if you have any additions or disagreements we'd love to discuss them in the comments and even have you join our Dischord to discuss upcoming guides!
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00:00 Intro
00:29 Issues: Skillpoints, Beast Mage and Diplomacy
01:10 Turn 1a - Opening Battle
02:16 CRITICAL TIP #1a - Route Marcher to wipe enemy army
03:15 CRITICAL TIP #1b - Diplomacy in the Badlands
05:00 CRITICAL TIP #2 - Fire Arch-Mage over Beast Mage
05:17 Turn 1b - Second Battle with Fire Mage
06:15 Turn 1c - Wipe northern army completely (Burning Head!)
06:50 Turn 2a - Besiege Galbaraz
07:16 Turn 2b - Ulthuan, sack the settlement!
07:35 End Turn - Destroy the Sally
08:05 Turn 3 - Assess the Beastmen
08:37 Turn 3b - Take Tralimia
08:45 CRITICAL TIP #3 - Route Marcher and Burning Head on Arch-Mage
09:15 Turn 4a - March on Ulthuan
09:28 Turn 4b - Hire Noble
09:55 Turn 5a - Battle Deployment (Yvresse)
11:25 Turn 5b - Trade Partners
11:40 Turn 5c - Confederations. Avelorn or Saphery?
12:15 Turn 6a - Badlands Expansion. South or Straight for Wurzag?
13:00 Turn 6b - March to Shrine (recruit x3)
13:13 Turn 7a - Complete Yvresse!
14:00 Turn 7b - Possible deviations
14:21 Turn 7c - Begin Badlands Expansion
15:10 Turn 7d - Use mistwalkers to reinforce either kingdom
15:20 Turn 8 - Completed First Confederation!
15:47 Justification: Why Eltharion SHOULD stay SOUTH
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I know I'm late but huge thanks to you and your guide. Those 5-6 first turnes made my Eltharion campaign beyond enjoyable. Although I play Total Wars since forever, I still learned quite a lot. Thanks again!
Many thanks mate! Appreciate the comment and sub!
man I've seen a couple of your videos and I just wanted to say that they are some of the most informative straight to the point vids on youtube, ill be staying here for longer keep up the great work bro
Thanks mate, appreciate the kind words. Good luck in your campaigns!
Nice video, great tips. Thanks!!
Cheers mate, hope it helped! Appreciate the comment and sub.
After taking a break from tww2 , and deciding to play my least played faction in the long run.....your video is amazing
Glad it helped! Cheers
Very awesome and underrated guide. As a TW vet, Warhammer is brutal if you don't know the lore or the special abilities and there are tons. This is the only thing I needed - a point in the general direction. Yvresse is also a very strong faction - A/S tier easily.
Appreciate the comment. Thanks mate! I have a playlist breaking down the intricacies of each faction. All High Elves are done and they contain the subtle tactics to help them all excel. Yvresse are certainly A+. Tyrion's cosy start and the WH2 diplomacy system made him S Tier. In IE he's certainly falling to A+ along with Alarielle imho. TLDR: every other high elf faction is going to drop a grade due to local threats except Yvresse (he'll stay the same imho) and Caledor (slightly improved).
My first ever WH2 campaign win was with Taurox. I keep putting aside campaigns because everyone sounds awesome. After watching a lot of these videos about the high elves, I think Yvresse will be my next campaign! Knowledge really is power with these guys. You can’t just brute force your way through a campaign like I did with the Beastmen haha
Congrats, getting a campaign win is an achievement many never get to, so good job! There's different playstyles from the different races that change quite dramatically. If the HE feel too sanitized you could explore the DE as well as they require aggression for their economy. If you're looking to only finish one HE campaign before you move on, Yvresse is a challenging start but has the richest mechanics: the prison and more units than any other HE means you'll get the full experience. Good luck!
@@ElvenPlotArmour Thanks for the advice dude! I watched your dark elf campaign overview and I’m so torn now haha. I’m really looking forward to the campaign masteries, if you’re heading in that direction!
u got 1 more sub and like, great content. Keep going on
Thanks heaps, appreciate it!
It's actually possible to destroy the Greenskins on Ulthuan on turn 4 and then disbanding the armies on Ulthuan to be able to focus on growth and economy. You will have to recruit a second lord on 1 turn to be able to do that and you will run a deficit and might even take some attrition, but it will be worth it.
I'd have to try it out, but there's definitely room to fine tune. I try to leave people with as many units as I can to make the playthrough as enjoyable as possible. How'd you got with that? Sound good!
Very good and smart advice, thanks. :)
I just restarted a new Eltharion campaign on Very Hard (this might be too tough for me, we'll see). On my previous Hard campaign, I had an inactive army on Ulthuan after taking the Yvresse-province. Because I don't like inactive armies, I declared war with Tyrion. After some back and forth I won the war and the other elves were stronger and withstood invasions (because Tyrion didn't go to war with them). I started confederations after the war with Tyrion.
Do you think it's viable to make an early war with Tyrion? Is it winable on harder difficulties or does it cost too much?
Hey mate, there's some gimicky things you can do, but I really advise against declaring war on Tyrion. At the end of the day it's just a confed which you'll get sooner or later. Once he's confederated you'll be back on the mission and you'll find yourself several turns behind where you should be. Later on it may take 200k gold but Tyrion will confed. The best way isn't to declare war, but to box him in! Use your influence to degrade his relations with his neighbours..... not much! just enough to keep below 80 (the confed minimum). Take your time to control the Badlands then eventually conquer into the donut. Sooner or later he'll lose his army then snap him up. I recommend getting Alarielle because she's so good. Other than that, play the mission, not the confederation and just keep an eye on Tyrion. Use that influence to keep him from getting too big ;) Good luck!
Love the video! Small question but if you did play the diet Tyrion way, how do you eventually get Tyrion to confed? Even when he has a slightly lower BOS, he refuses to confed -.-
Thanks mate, in terms of getting Tyrion when you've gone Diet-Tyrion it ends up making things harder as you're perceived BoP ends up being lower. The biggest advice I can give is use influence to sabotage any near-confeds he has while boosting your own relations to box him in by confederating his neighbours first. If you don't get him early it becomes a late game ordial or simply revolves around waiting for Tyrion to fall in battle while having similar enemies to keep the relationship positive,.. Don't keep paying him waiting for confeds to happen when it feels like a stretch. Follow your gut otherwise you can just spend money on bolstering his armies too much which sets you back....
thank you playing 3 player head to head warhammer 3 mortal empire didnt understand the imprison. I completely butchered my start and stats with eltharion. Thank you sir
Glad to help mate. This was tough, no question about it! The first 5 steps were the only way I could find without relying on luck when on Legendary, and even then it's tight haha
Nice
Really nice. Is it me or the sound was a bit weird after the mid point of the video?
Yeah apologies for that. Mic issue midway on my end. I'll have it sorted next time. Regardless, appreciate you pointing it out. Cheers!
So you're saying that I shouldnt be sieging out the shrine of khaine by turn 10?
Ok lets have another crack at this 😂
Also "Diet Tyrion" man this is so true! Great video, subbed.
Don't worry mate, we've all gotten ourselves into trouble at some point listening to that cursed Sword ;)
As a rule of thumb, avoid that northwest corner of Ulthuan all together until the mid game - let the others deal with that and focus on the Badlands. Let them fight for you and confederate Alarielle and inside the donut first and you can use Ulthuan to fund your crusade, Lionheart style.
@@ElvenPlotArmour brilliant thank you! 😀
Don't know why, but it always seems 10 times easier for legendary difficulty to confed than on very hard, tried this tactic, but saphery refuses to confed with me having a stronger army and more territory...
also I had up 104 influence/relation and was strength rank 17 while she was 49, so maybe just twice as easy to confed on legendary than on very hard.
Hey mate, sorry to hear it's being a pain. To clarify, the rank doesn't actually matter. It's the balance of power bar and the armies that are relative to their territory that make them feel the heat to confederate. It's definitely more difficult or harder difficulties to get relations positive, but the calculations are the same. It's the various factions interacting with them that's creating ebbs and flows. In a few turns the opportunity will come :) check out my diplomacy guide for more details if that's of any interest.
@@ElvenPlotArmour Hey, Thanks for the response! Felt like I was ranting a bit before and did not think you would answer me. Just want to say that it was a very useful guide and I really appreciate the effort you put into it. I know there is a lot of rng when it comes to confeds and well most of the game, so you can't follow guides to 100%, but thanks for the clarification why sometimes it is harder, think I sold some units in Ulthuan army to start to build up Eltharions army in the south. But tried doing it without that aswell and still didnt work, so I guess just a badluck game I had.
u actually want him to come back to his capital bcs u can bseige it and get some free influence from this army, 3 lord kills 1 at 1 st turn secound when besigneding and third when attacking capital bcs the sige machine will be ready with your army just bcs he WILL atack u when u besige galbaraz tested a lot times ( dont forget to reciut 3 archers after first battle) 2:15
Tried this on hard mode and wow there's so much fighting. Very profitable.
Absolutely! Managing 2 territories is always difficult but the experience and riches are always worth it in the campaigns that set you up to pull it off (just like our boy here!). Plus, if things get dicey you can always insta-summon Mist Walkers and RoR's ;)
@@ElvenPlotArmourI hope you make more videos about interesting campaigns like this one.
@@jellydamgood Cheers mate, I try to design runs that are accessible/consistent that push enough limits to give a strong start but also deliver excitement and hard decisions. These 'expedition' type campaigns always seen to bring that and are so much fun to design. I've got similar videos for Teclis and Alith Anar I hope you might enjoy. Regardless, appreciate the support and thanks for supporting the channel!
@@ElvenPlotArmour I'll have to check them out.
Hey gretatings..can someone expplain me how to build new units .. PLEASE i search everywhere and nothing i dont know what i need to do .:(
Hi mate, don't stress, Total War is confusing, poorly explained but actually not that complicated. I've got a Basics video that I promise will help your game, stick with it, there's some gold in there! (czcams.com/video/anXCV-prPT0/video.html).
Recruitment: you can only recruit if you are within the borders of a province you control.
A province is comprised of several settlements - all benefits from every building in the province add together and you can recruit from any building, regardless where you are standing in the province.
If you are out of your province (in neutral or hostile territory) you can typically only recruit globally when in encamp stance (requires 50% of your movement). This is roughly double the time and price, typically undesirable. Encamp stance also helps replenish your forces when away from home.
Your capital province is generally for recruitment and your expansion for economy in the early-mid game.
If you're really new to Total War, I have a fundamentals video too which could help.
Good luck mate!
Great video thank you. I made the mistake of destroying the herd to try and get the province. I also made the mistake of letting Ork-boyz confederate. I am looking forward to the next try where I separate the Greenskins with influence, and I let the Bull fuck off.
Cheers for watching! Eltharion's opening moves are among the most crucial out of any faction and throwing Malagor into the mix definitely didn't help! Yvresse are still one of the top HE factions but that start is not friendly for a first timer!
here am i... almost finishing conquering the americas with malus (started with malekith... that's the only way to play malus... start as malekith and confederate him...) and im think: I want to do start an hig elf campaign... but who? Imrik? Eltharion? Tyrion? i just dont know... With tyrion i spam shielded LSG with him being a nuicence to the front lines... with ethalrion i do the same but with his faction only units... and imrik i end up doing the same xD but with dragons this time...
Thanks for watching. The first High Elf Campaign should always be Tyrion imho. Fun fact, his best mid-game army is actually fire mage (dragon mount), 10-14 archers, x4 silverin guard and some hero support as he gives discounts to most of those units. Check out my "Save Imrik Turn 7" and you'll absolutely breeze through the HE. DE require much more execution so have fun :)
@@ElvenPlotArmour Dont get me wrong, i have this game since the slacking Start with no Immortal empires xD i've already painted the map with almost all of the factions (not trench... We dont talk About him). I was just saying that i honestly dont know which Will i play again. But i Will check out vídeo. Imrik is the only h elf that, when not playing him, i can never, Ever, Confederate.
like ,but it's my first time I see this prison system I will ask you next stream
Any time mate, ask away. To help you out in the mean time, you use the warden's cage to capture a lord during battle. Once captured you execute the lords to earn upgrades which either help you level up Eltharion, get influence or access more Mistwalker Units.
Full faction guide for Yvresse come out this week.
Cheers!
There is a second Top Knotz army which attacks you when besieging Gal Baraz on turn 2.
Hey, firstly thanks for giving this run a go and sorry you're hitting a wall! I've not seen that happen in any of my testing? You did you eliminate the initial army with similar losses? Other than that the usual culprit that messes with AI behavior is mods if you any. Let me know how you go!
happened to me aswell first time I tried, but did another one and then that didnt happen so probably some rng with that
Is this a guide for legendary?
Yeah mate, all guides and demonstrations are done on legendary. I try to design runs which accommodate all difficulties and avoid cheesing to keep them as inclusive as possible.
I thought you said "No underwear access"🤣
T'would welcome the taint of Slaanesh!
Do you only do HElf stuff?
I'm a HE main but do intend to work my way through all the races. I'm only a couple months in so it's early days but my goal is to make the most concise and accurate guides to all play styles (not just my own opinion). Given the time this takes I'm trying to keep a focus to ensure the content is as complete as possible. Thanks for the comment and sub. Which faction do you play btw?
@@ElvenPlotArmour I do have preferences but I have tried them all.
I hate Skaven - both to play as and against, I find Wood Elves except Drycha boring and I find Dwarves' roster too limited in terms of speed and mobility because it massively hurts their battlefield control.
I find High Elves are so strong it can become boring to play as them and I wish there were more field battles in campaign so we could make fast units more viable because war lions, chariots and cavalry have very limited uses in sieges which make up the majority of battles but they are such fun units. That said they have some very cool mechanics like the Rite of Vaul, influencing diplomacy with influence and their character traits and their very large magic lore selection and heroes are great. They also have great legendary lords.
But my favourite is Vampire Counts. Their faction could use a lot of work such as to the tech tree, their available traits (eg Determined should not be a thing), followers with indeterminate scopes and follower and banner variety but I find them to be extremely powerful in the right hands in campaign - probably not so much in multiplayer. They can be as powerful if not more powerful than High Elves but the difference is High Elves take no time at all to be powerful and can expand freely whereas Vamps are very much a slow burner that cannot handle rapid expansion without major problems and honestly they are not a beginner friendly faction whereas High Elves definitely are.
I think what you're doing is great work and it's very clean and well done so keep it up.
@@SGProductions87 The high elves could take a couple of nerfs that would stop them snowballing so hard as well as new naval threats. Vampire Counts are awesome and they'll likely be one of the first revamps in the new ME campaign.
Regarding Skaven, some advice you may already know, but you can shutdown their ambush with lord skills, followers and most races have an 'ambusher' trait if you finish enough turns in ambush stance. Together these bring the odds in your favour and severely neauter the Skaven. Apologies if you knew this already, I just used to despise them and now they're not a problem after learning the above. Cheers again.
@@ElvenPlotArmour honestly it isnt the stalking ambushes that bother me but rather the extreme pain they do with high armour ranged units, units that rout all over the place and come back to fight, their poison skirmishers are a nightmare to catch and pin down, and the warp lightning spam.
The thing is I know how to shut these things down but once they get tier 3+ units, heavy casualties are certain whereas against other factions, 0-100 losses can be feasible.
I dont think High Elves should be nerfed btw. The nature of Ulthuan makes them strong due to the gates and difficulty entering the inner ring. I love how they are. They are meant to be strong.
One thing I'd love for you to cover is the noble's Increase Trade. I cannot get this thing to work. Maybe a short video can explain how it works, whether that's different to how it's said by the tooltip to work and what players need to do to get the best out of it. I'm of the opinion that it has been broken and bugged since WH2 release but there may be something you can show us all that proves scientically otherwise.
In TWW3, leaving the Badlands is the right choice.
...Challenge accepted ;)
True, Skaven will fuck you up in the badlands. It gets super annoying to be there.
@@EldenLord. I've given it a look. Definitely more difficult to balance but I think I can crack it :)
Giving up Yvresse and confed'ing back in would probably be easiest but let's face it - people want it all haha!
@@ElvenPlotArmour There is also the thing that I am not that great at the game :). So that might be a "personal" issue here I guess. For me, at around turn 20 two Skaven clans (Clan Mors and Skryre) declared war on me and they came from two sides doing sort of a pincer move on me. On the nothern side I was still at war with some orcs and vampire coast. At that point I didnt have the money to deal with so many fronts at once. Maybe I fucked something up in diplomacy but that wasnt fun lol.
@@EldenLord. I have a Yvresse guide coming out today/tomorrow. You're right, it's tough but I found a great answer. Hopefully you're subbed or check later to see it :)
you need to destroy harbinger of disaster as soon as possible because if you let him he will grow too powerfull and his chaos will cause major public penalties
His corruption can definitely be a pain and it's great to remove him when possible. In my testing the biggest risk of going for him early is it takes your focus away from the stronger provinces to the north where the Greenskins 'will' attack you sooner than later. Malagor tends to ignore you if you don't get in his way, allowing you to establish your main provinces before removing him. I completely agree, Malagor's addition to this campaign really ramped up the difficulty!
was my absolute favourite in wh2 but in wh3 they changed the start of eltharion a lot. way too hard for me now =(
May I ask you subscribe or tune in tomorrow.... Spoiler Alert
IE - Eltharion - 2 Kingdoms - PERFECT 20 Turn Guide is being edited as we speak ;)
And yes... designing the run was a f'ing headache! It's much more complex now!
Awesome! Can't wait to learn more from you =)
Yeah not only the orcs are much stronger now they also removed all the good units AND nerved recruiting options at start so much i could cry =(
Oh and additionally Khorne comes to Galbaraz to welcome you in the badlands while greenskins and ogres in the north declare war ^^
Dude, slow down! It feels like you're in a race to get the words out as quickly as possible. Especially when combined with the frequent cuts, I'm still trying to situate myself with what's on screen when I realise that I'm already behind trying to follow what you are saying. If it seems fine when you listen to it, don't forget that you already know what you're saying - that makes a big difference to how easy it is to follow.
Appreciate the feedback mate. It's a difficult balancing act. I want to jam as much value for the viewer as possible to give them the most, while still making the video short enough to be enticing enough to watch. Funnily enough it takes several hours more to script/shoot/edit a short video like this than to make a 2 hour Let's Play but if I can help more people it's worth it. Honestly cheers and it's a great incite that with multiple locations (like Yvresse) needs a slowdown in cuts.