How to buy a vintage road bicycle. What to look for!

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  • čas přidán 11. 10. 2021
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    In this video I go over all the ways you can discover if the bicycle is worth purchasing starting with the frame and fork. I touch on the components of the bicycle briefly as well. Watch this video and let me know in the comment section what you can ad. I don't talk much about the adjustments of the brakes and derailleurs. I talk mostly about the things that cant be adjusted.
    Thanks for watching.
    #bicyclerepair #howtobuy #schwinnbicycles #campagnolo #bentframe #how to #schwinnsuperior #bicyclecollection #mancave #classicbicycle #roadbikes

Komentáře • 244

  • @Paramount531
    @Paramount531 Před rokem +20

    The less work you are capable of doing yourself, the more cautious you should be when buying a vintage bike. Also, if you have to use the services of a shop, be advised that many shops want nothing to do with vintage bikes, or selling any parts for them. Find a vintage bike friendly shop before you go shopping. I went in a shop to buy some pads for my vintage Campy brakes, the guy very rudely informed me that they were obsolete and were not available. I went home and found reproductions online, and from that point on I pretty much avoided any of them. I had worked in a shop back in the 70s and do 99% of my own work so I can avoid the bike shop problem. I like to buy ones that need some repairs or cleaning for below market price.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +7

      Excellent suggestions!!! I have two shops that when they get a vintage bike they call me for help. LOL

  • @peterlewis2255
    @peterlewis2255 Před 2 lety +34

    Here are a few more tips - especially if it's a "fixer-upper" that you are planning to ride rather than display.
    Chromed Steel wheel rims - avoid, or plan the $ /£/$ to replace.
    Wheel size: anything other than 700c can be a PITA to replace.
    27" is OK but can have implications for brake choice if you change to 700c
    The old "English" sizes: 26"x1-1/4" is a different diameter from 26" x 1-3/8" and both are different dia /incompatible with 26" MTB.
    Understand the different types of brakes and their relative performance:
    Entry level single pivot and "center-pull" don't really give adequate performance by today's standards
    Cantilever brakes can give good performance but are a PITA to set up.
    Dual-pivots with vintage "nut-fitting" (as opposed to hex socket nuts) are available in different drops up to 73mm maximum and are a worthwhile upgrade.
    Does frame have a derailleur hanger at all? Older bikes with derailleur on a hook that goes over the axle are OK with a 5 speed freewheel, or downtube (DT) levers with a friction (un-indexed) mode but move around too much for indexing systems with more cogs.
    Look at how the DT shifters are attached to the frame.
    Are they band-on? Adapters to fit cable stops (necessary if you are planning to change to bar end or brifters) are now very difficult to find.
    Braze-on fittings (little internally threaded studs on side of downtube) - adapters still available, so much simpler to change to brifters.
    If you are planning to convert to SS/Fixed then cleaner look can be obtained on frame without the braze-on studs and even without the derailleur hanger.
    Frame material. Steel can (usually) be cold-set to resize the rear axle spacing. Many vintage bikes are 126mm and be reset to accommodate modern 130mm or 135mm hubs, or even 120mm for track hubs. Do not try this with aluminum or any other frame material.
    As well as cracks in paint around seatpost bolt (6:00 in video) look at the slot in the frame above the bolt. The top part of the slot should have parallel sides. If not, the frame has been squeezed around a seatpost of the wrong (too small) diameter. Take a digital caliper with you. If the seatpost is correct size, movable in frame, and is 27.2mm then chances are it is quite good quality.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +4

      you can write a book!

    • @peterlewis2255
      @peterlewis2255 Před 2 lety +2

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage nah! I prefer messing with bikes 😀 but you knew that already ?

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      @@peterlewis2255 All great advice that you wrote. I tried really hard to stay away from MY preferences for components and quality level. As you know, many viewers have different budgets.

  • @bertdaniel1449
    @bertdaniel1449 Před rokem +10

    Thanks for the beautiful eye candy. I haven’t seen any of those classic bikes for many years but none of them matches the beauty of my 1987 DeRosa which I still ride every day. Working on your own bike may eventually become a lost art as technology becomes more complex. Classic bikes were simple to understand. Like a Volkswagen Beetle.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +2

      I agree! I love em. I'm looking for a DeRosa. I had one but it was a 1992 and I didnt care for the paint. Still looking!

  • @JanBanJoovi-ol1qv
    @JanBanJoovi-ol1qv Před 10 měsíci +1

    Im a young lad but I like vintage bicycles. It’s like they have a soul. And it gives you a glimpse of the past. My friends usually tease me of being a grandpa for liking very old bicycles.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 10 měsíci +1

      They ride so differently compared to the new ones. Stay with your passion! Thanks for watching!

  • @polyrhythmia
    @polyrhythmia Před 10 měsíci +4

    Quite the collection. I always love to see vintage bicycles, like what was available in my younger days. Steel frame, threaded fork, lugs, downtube shifters, straight block freewheel...

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 9 měsíci +1

      For sure. I love those old bikes. They ride so different from modern. I enjoy them! Thanks for watching

  • @darineconradie3017
    @darineconradie3017 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks. Good info. Beautiful collection!!!!

  • @bikenraider99
    @bikenraider99 Před 2 lety +8

    Good video. These are good tips for buying any used bike these days.

  • @sandspurpatch
    @sandspurpatch Před rokem +5

    Building your bike from the frame up is not just fun, and it is, it is how to get EXACTLY what you want. You can refer to these videos if you're in a spot. Easy peezy.
    Then you ride with pride. My latest opaque blue 1972 #826frame is now complete. Everything is redone. Total price $562. The Schwinn Super Sports have hand brazed chrome moly. And yes a gooseneck stuck in the steering tube is the biggest pain.

  • @ChrisEnockson
    @ChrisEnockson Před 2 lety +3

    Very well done John probably your best yet keep it up!

  • @orpheus6398
    @orpheus6398 Před 2 lety +14

    Classic bikes are so beautiful! I’d buy one if I could!

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks. Thats why I love em.

    • @orpheus6398
      @orpheus6398 Před 2 lety +4

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I bought a bike today it’s cheap and not vintage but still great. I swear I love the frames in your bikes!

  • @jamieryall8341
    @jamieryall8341 Před rokem

    Those are some great looking bikes you have there. Thanks for the informative video.

  • @Anthony-tb5vg
    @Anthony-tb5vg Před rokem

    Awesome vintage bicycle, reminds me of the bicycles used in the 1980s when I raced in Prospect Park with the Kissena cycling club. I really miss those days.

  • @daveharper7184
    @daveharper7184 Před rokem +9

    I’ve got a collection of roughly 15 vintage road bikes. I bought a lot of them online. I have some really good deals and some not so good ones. I usually find a problem or two after I’ve received the bike and thoroughly looked it over, but not always. I have absolutely no regrets, I love vintage road bikes. These tips will be helpful. Thanks for posting this video.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      Sounds like you have a good collection going there. I too have bought bikes online and have only a couple bikes that had problems. One actually I had to return. They packed it in correctly and they bent the head tube and fork. He ended up selling me the parts and I sent him back to frame and fork.

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser7706 Před rokem +4

    Omg that is my dream garage. True Nirvana! Your collection looks so impressive!

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      Thanks so much. Appreciate you watching!

    • @hoser7706
      @hoser7706 Před rokem +1

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage you are makibg great videos with great detail. Thank you. It takes me back in time

  • @stickmenkissarmy6907
    @stickmenkissarmy6907 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the help. I will ues it on my next biuld.

  • @pholiux1418
    @pholiux1418 Před rokem +1

    Just got myself a Ventura 1984 thanks for the tips!!

  • @kosiekoos9408
    @kosiekoos9408 Před měsícem +1

    Wow thi s guys got a lot of bikes in da mancave👍🏾

  • @user-wd6zh5id1t
    @user-wd6zh5id1t Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great time learning from your video fantastic work thanks so much!

  • @christopherlucy1772
    @christopherlucy1772 Před 2 lety +6

    Good tips I tend to over tighten everything and I'm going to check the true on the back wheel on my vintage bike that gets to be 40 years this spring that I've had it and it probably sat around in the warehouse a couple before that but it has a huret derailleur.. the rear Lug is different and I don't think you can substitute nuvo record for it... Campo is a lot easier to find

  • @event4216
    @event4216 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for your tips!
    One more from me - check if crank ends have same distance to chainstays on both sides. And both pedals are perpendikular to axis going through front and rear wheels.

  • @dragoncivicnola
    @dragoncivicnola Před 2 lety

    Good info here! Not a shopper atm but I do have an 82 Raleigh SBDU that I've been tinkering with for a while now and every extra bit helps.

  • @3DCommando
    @3DCommando Před rokem

    Im restoring a vintage Motobecane Grand Sprint and this video is perfect for letting me know what I have to fix before I list it.

  • @rudyramos5911
    @rudyramos5911 Před 2 lety +1

    Great last word of advice.....
    Best regards.....Rudy
    Please share more of your vintage collection...... thank you
    🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      Hi. Thanks for watching. Check my channel. Most, Not all my bikes have videos. Some were done before I learned how to edit. More are on the way.

    • @rudyramos5911
      @rudyramos5911 Před 2 lety +1

      Will check it out.....Thanks for the response....

  • @georgeshaw6207
    @georgeshaw6207 Před rokem

    Great video. Loads of good tips. Love the last comment too ! George U.K.

  • @lihtan
    @lihtan Před 2 lety +10

    These are some great tips. I ended with a really mint 1984 Bianchi that ended up being an impulse buy that I found at a garage sale last summer. The frame is way too big for me, but the bike was just too nice to pass up.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +4

      I've done that. On purpose, however. I have three bikes that I love that are too small for me.

    • @elmoreglidingclub3030
      @elmoreglidingclub3030 Před rokem +2

      Nice!! I’m looking for a 59cm Bianchi. If you ever think of selling…..it’ll go to a very caring owner…

  • @davidschaadt3460
    @davidschaadt3460 Před 23 hodinami

    Real nice video. I have sew-ups on my old bike ,i don't ride anymore but I wouldn't buy a new one with them. An old classic,of course.

  • @Nerdsplayingcards
    @Nerdsplayingcards Před rokem +2

    I picked up a Schwinn super le tour and I love it , it's super light weight quick nimble

  • @whukriede
    @whukriede Před rokem

    Great, very useful. Thanks a lot!

  • @MauroSilva312
    @MauroSilva312 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you very much for the valuable information. Congratulations from Brazil!

  • @LeeErnstGroup
    @LeeErnstGroup Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @kosiekoos9408
    @kosiekoos9408 Před měsícem +1

    Great advice.

  • @beckyg4860
    @beckyg4860 Před rokem +2

    Hello John I like the fact you point out the quality and condition of bikes review and to know what to looks for and what to buy good quality Road Bike Thank You.,
    Please keep me up to date in near in the near future and please note if can with better audio quality very loud quality recording , Thank You again.....

  • @fiLthy_Rx
    @fiLthy_Rx Před rokem +2

    You have excellent taste in both bicycles and cars -- couldn't help but notice your Audi TTs in the background 🙂

  • @MalkyMcMillan
    @MalkyMcMillan Před 2 lety +6

    Vintage bikes are engineering works of art.

  • @sperrtechnik
    @sperrtechnik Před 2 lety +2

    Great Info

  • @solitaryrefinement6787
    @solitaryrefinement6787 Před rokem +2

    I scored a vintage Tommasini Super Prestige. I thought the drivetrain was rusted shut and was expecting to begin to replace the Dura-Ace bits, but I hit with some WD40 and broke it free. Then I hit it with some citrus degreaser and it came to life shifting quieter and smoother than my new Dura-Ace 9100 & 105! I had a Cheshire Cat grin on my face after that. It's just amazing how older stuff just holds up better. I can't believe that a modern groupset with all it's carbon & plastic parts would hold up to being encrusted in rust without suffering permanent damage.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem

      Well, as you know Carbon Fiber doesnt rust.. LOL.. I have nothing against the modern stuff. It all works wonderfully. But nothing beats the craftsmenship of the older steel bikes.

    • @ralphc1405
      @ralphc1405 Před 11 měsíci +1

      NEVER use citrus degreaser (simple green) on a classic steel bike!!! Use what they used back in the day--Gasoline! Best chain cleaner but clean outside the house so your sweetheart does not complain about the smell (like mine does)

  • @pascalbruyere7108
    @pascalbruyere7108 Před 9 měsíci +1

    That’s a lot of nice bikes that should be on the market and then on the road.

  • @ajkauly3682
    @ajkauly3682 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for good frameset damage inspections, and other advice!
    Another thing myself ALWAYS check is wear on drive train(chain elongation a good CLUE though not the final say) While it CAN be replaced, cost consideration can be HIGH, especially if maintaining a quality standard. Bottom Bracket/ Hubs as/more important than rims, and in opinion of a rebuilder/rider the second most important thing to healthy structure.INspection for looseness takes 5 seconds, for tightness takes about 30+seconds/wheel. MOst new wheels are tight, most meddled with and incorrectly locked in hubs become loose, though some tight.
    In addition to Johns things to bring, bring a section of NEW CHAIN, to test excessive wear without much intrustion. Use the tape to measure the chain under tension. Park makes a $9 tool that does this easily and quickly.]
    summary
    1. Frameset Structure 2.Adjustments(hubs/bb/headset), 3. Wear-component damage

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem

      Yes. All excellent suggestions! I don't concentrate on the wear and tear honestly. I count on having to rebuild, overhaul and even replace some parts as I go. I do understand that many want a ready to ride bicycle. I should have spent more time on that angle. Thanks!!

  • @Bruceillest101
    @Bruceillest101 Před 2 lety +2

    NIce collection

  • @wasupwitdat1mofiki94
    @wasupwitdat1mofiki94 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't seem to find one to buy, BECAUSE YOU THEM ALL! 😁

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      I hear ya. You cant find them because Ebay is too expensive to sell through so you have to rummage more to find good bikes!

  • @Barry101er
    @Barry101er Před 3 měsíci

    Good advice. I got "tubalured" recently, lol. Got new wheels/tires right away.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 3 měsíci

      You got tubulared? What does that mean? LOL. The bike had sew-ups and you did not know it?

    • @Barry101er
      @Barry101er Před 3 měsíci

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage In my haste to buy the bike I didn’t notice it had tubular tires and rims. Not my bag; I should have been more observant. :)

  • @leoseyers
    @leoseyers Před 2 lety +1

    super usefull!

  • @peteryouds5634
    @peteryouds5634 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for posting this video John, I’m certain to use these tips when looking over a potential purchase, the frame alignment checks are a must ! The Schwinn Superior is quite a unique color, would you happen to know what Schwinn called that color ?

  • @Kuessemir
    @Kuessemir Před rokem +3

    I ride my Fuji road bike year round to work, through snow, salt, and lots of rain. I definitely abuse her, but she's 40 years old soon and works just fine. She's definitely not a pageant queen though.

  • @petergiourelas3753
    @petergiourelas3753 Před 4 měsíci

    Just brought a 86 motioncraft, it rides great

  • @joesch1733
    @joesch1733 Před 2 lety +2

    Good info on checks. Your wood straight edge could be warped, as wood warps easily, so lay on flat floor both ways to insure its straight. Bottom Bracket is another area that can seize up due to corrosion. Sometimes rust can be seen from the underside or at the sides.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety

      Great tips. I went to do the video at the bike garage and realized my 4ft aluminum stick was at home! I didnt want to delay making the video. You'll notice the text suggesting to use one. You are so correct on the BB. However most people will not take out the BB when inspecting. I just suggested to see if its loose. Do you have any suggestions to check for rust that doesn't include removing the headset or BB?

    • @joesch1733
      @joesch1733 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, RE: Sometimes rust can be seen from the underside or at the sides. BB cup can sometimes shows rust, as well as the BB cutout if the frame has such. @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage

    • @Hertog_von_Berkshire
      @Hertog_von_Berkshire Před 2 lety

      Look down the wood and determine which way it is warped (if at all). If there's a compound bend, find another piece of wood. Otherwise, put an X or a paint mark on the flat side which is the bend's inside. Always present that side to the bike.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety

      @@Hertog_von_Berkshire I hear ya. If you see I put in some text suggesting that we use a long ruler instead of the wood. I just didnt want to delay making the video. My 4ft aluminum ruler was at home and I was at the VBGarage

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety

      @@jed7644 Yes. Great plan!

  • @justinecooper9575
    @justinecooper9575 Před 2 lety +3

    I've had a lot of luck finding nice bikes at pawn shops and Goodwill. You just have to keep your eyes open and be on good terms with the staff at said locations so you know what's coming available and when.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +3

      yes, that is a lot of work. I have a friend that sold me a the Guerciotti/Alan bike, thats what he does as a living. Just flipping bikes that he buys from different places like that.

  • @larryt.atcycleitalia5786

    Nice job! I always try to ride the bike if possible. A "no hands" test will tell you about alignment issues. If you find yourself leaning one way or the other just to go straight, you need to investigate further as to what's up. Rear wheel just installed incorrectly? Something bent or just a dented headset that makes it hard to do straight? I'm always extra careful with a bike without openings in the bottom bracket shell...where did the water/condensation go? A rusted out BB is a real deal-breaker for me!

  • @the.mermaid.scientist
    @the.mermaid.scientist Před 7 měsíci +1

    A few months ago I saw a Panasonic DX-2000 for $150 at the thrift store -the only reason I didn't buy it was the frame was waaaaay too large for me 😅 I hadn't even considered most of what was discussed here! Hopefully it found a forever home =)

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 7 měsíci +1

      That would of been a great price! I try to only buy bikes that fit me. Thanks for watching.

  • @takatsu5
    @takatsu5 Před 2 lety +2

    On my vintage Ross I have a crack in the Campy hub where the bearing cup is pressed in. It's been cracked a long time, but it could just be waiting for the right time to separate. Short answer: inspect the hubs and axles. New complete wheels aren't cheap.

  • @batmangsxr300
    @batmangsxr300 Před 18 hodinami

    I know very little about road bikes. Just bought my first one for $100 at a garage sale-de bernardi from the 90s. The guy had several bikes and was trying to clear out his garage. Its in pretty good condition visually but i didnt do a full inspection. For the price i didnt feel a need to be critical

  • @fredroberts6772
    @fredroberts6772 Před 2 lety +1

    oh my goodness! that schwinn weaties bike!!! oh my!!!!!!!

  • @yosacfc
    @yosacfc Před rokem

    Very good

  • @MilesCobbett
    @MilesCobbett Před rokem

    I wish I still had my 1977 Ferdi Kessels road race frame #32 it was a 56 cm. I would love to find another one

  • @domestique3954
    @domestique3954 Před rokem

    Awesome collection!
    I raced on several of them when i was young-two years ago i was able to buy back my Vitus Carbone 9-it was only ridden by me for about ~1000 km and then stored dry without sunlight.
    Do you think it will be rideable?!
    Or does the glue lose it’s strength?
    The carbon tubes are very thick and i would ride it only on sunny sundays,but will the lugs still hold the tubes after nearly 40 years?
    It took nearly 2 decades to collect the whole Mavic groupset with that beautiful bottom bracket.......

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      That's a good question. Some say that it weakens. But Im not an expert on old carbone' I have my vintage specialized carbon and its fine. But Honestly. Im not an expert on that. Ask the members at Bikeforums.net they have a vintage section and there are many experts.

  • @garagemslzv8465
    @garagemslzv8465 Před 2 lety +1

    Good Black look tops

  • @abenogcyklen5785
    @abenogcyklen5785 Před rokem +1

    I'm with you all the way 🙂. Have worked on "retrobikes" when they were new - since 1984. I'm just wondering about your beautiful collection - do you drive them ?

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      I ride about half of them. A lot are either New old stock or close to it. Plus I only have so much time. lol. Thanks for watching.

  • @kris4645
    @kris4645 Před 2 lety +3

    Buying bikes that you rarely ride, that's a "sport" for a people who have excess of money aka rich people!
    Judging by that red Audi in the video, I'm right all the way!
    Nice collection of bicycles, anyway!
    Greetings from Croatia 😊

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      Glad you like the collection.. 7 years ago my net worth was about 25k. Sometimes business goes your way. Sometimes it doesnt. We are blessed.

    • @kris4645
      @kris4645 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I like every single bike that you got there!
      And that red Audi is a absolutely gorgeous thingy!
      But, it's still a thing for a wealthy people,"ordinary" people like me, can't even dream of ownership of some of the bikes you got there!
      Fantastic collection 😊
      It's always better to have,than not to have money, health, anything!
      Greetings from Croatia from Kris 😊

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +2

      @@kris4645 Thanks. I hear you. I take nothing for granted. Especially my health.

    • @kris4645
      @kris4645 Před 2 lety +2

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I wish you plenty of health and even more bikes! 🤣

  • @terrancegoldstein728
    @terrancegoldstein728 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @christopherlucy1772
    @christopherlucy1772 Před 2 lety +3

    Lots of bikes I see on the web you would be buying them sight unseen and that's why I haven't bought a vintage bike.. my other two bikes that are getting old enough where they're going to be vintage too 😄

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Ive taken some risks and purchased a few on Ebay. One came packaged incorrectly and it bent the frame and fork! I took pics and sent them to the seller and they felt bad. I ended up buying the parts kit and returned the f and f to him.. worked out well. I've been lucky otherwise.

  • @velocibob
    @velocibob Před 2 lety +3

    Put the front brake on and rock it back and forward to see if the headset is loose or that the cups are loose in the headtube. It may have the wrong size headset fitted, or one that is undersized.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Great advise.. Funny thing. I left out a clip of me showing how put your brakes on to check the HS...I'm an idiot. Great catch!

  • @lawrencelibby3607
    @lawrencelibby3607 Před 2 lety +3

    In the bike shop we used string instead of the wooden straightedge.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Thats a great way to do it. We had a tool for it so we didnt have to use string. However we would string it high and low on the headtube soemtimes and look for twist. Great suggestion Lawrence!

  • @aldoclausi3955
    @aldoclausi3955 Před 2 lety +2

    How about a 3" drop test. I can tell if hubs, bb or headset is loose. Should be a clean thud sound no rattles or clanging sound which could indicate a cracked frame.

  • @troytaylor1913
    @troytaylor1913 Před 3 měsíci

    I traded a lawn vac and a lawn mower for an early '60s 26-inch 3-speed Hawthorn girls' bike. It has the same tire size as my 76 Schwinn World Sport. The tires were rotted but originally like most girls' bikes, it wasn't worn out. I got a cruiser banana seat and a new sissy bar, new petals and I swapped out the crank for I'm a small person, 26 inches is the biggest bike I can ride. It's getting a dark pink with white and gold leaf pinstripes, I would also like to touch it up with a 46-tooth chrome heart sprocket. I'll ride it around until some lady falls in love with it and robs me.

    • @troytaylor1913
      @troytaylor1913 Před 3 měsíci

      I put a 30cc motor on a 79 Schwinn 26-inch road bike. I swapped out the handlebars for 22mm mountain bike bars and had to make my own motor mounts. It was a little faster than I expected.

  • @joynthis
    @joynthis Před rokem +3

    I look for holes drilled in everything, including the chainring, hubs, seat and water bottle.

  • @davegale2693
    @davegale2693 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi I bought an old apply bike everything if working great.I was just wondering if you would clear coat a bike to help preserve finish

  • @granthaller9544
    @granthaller9544 Před 16 dny +1

    Do you have a source for vintage shoes. I’ve got an old Bianchi and would like to take off the Time clipless pedals I put on and switch to a pair of Campagnola pedals with toe clips. The pedals are narrow and need narrow shoes. Ideally with nail on cleats available.

  • @goodboyringo9716
    @goodboyringo9716 Před rokem

    That superior is sweet

  • @trustpinoy9891
    @trustpinoy9891 Před 9 měsíci

    Wow, I love your Collection of Old School bikes.. I would like the Buy one from you? Give me your most least Favorite? Very profesional. Thanks for the infos.

  • @Hertog_von_Berkshire
    @Hertog_von_Berkshire Před 2 lety +3

    Check that the pedals aren't seized in the cranks. It's a biggie if you need to swap out the pedals.

  • @axelgranzini6797
    @axelgranzini6797 Před rokem

    Hi John! I was wondering if you can help
    Guide me in making sure I get the correct size frame vintage road bike? New 2022 geo I ride a 56 cm but I don’t know if that applies to 70s-80s

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      well. nobody can professionally fit someone by chatting. but to give you an idea Im 6ft tall. I ride a Modern 56 from specialized and Moots. I buy mostly 58 to 60cm frames.. or 23 or 24 inch frames. I only go taller because im getting older and prefer to be a little bit more upright. How tall are you? what is your inseam length?

  • @abanuell
    @abanuell Před 16 dny

    I'm about to buy a 1982 centenary anniversary Peugeot in very good conditions here in México for $580. Do you think is a good deal?
    I'd love to read your opinion.
    Thanks for the content. 🙂

  • @brianadams9442
    @brianadams9442 Před rokem +1

    A vintage 1985 raleigh portage was actually gifted to me but it has cruiser bars, it's the america version, I'm not sure which bars are correct for it. This bike is a weekly 6 mile rider. Any advice, websites are vague.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem

      not sure what you're looking for. If you want to return it to stock get some aluminum standard bars and stem..etc.. be more specific?

  • @sandspurpatch
    @sandspurpatch Před rokem

    I have 4 vintage Schwinns. A 1974 Continental. And 1972 Super Sports. My Faves.
    These videos can lead you through a do it yourself rebuild. Get a good frame and headset first. Start building.

  • @SupercarSeany
    @SupercarSeany Před rokem

    Came for the bike content...is that a Rubystar tt-rs?!?

  • @vintagebikes4215
    @vintagebikes4215 Před rokem +2

    Your prejudice against sew up tubular tires is surprising, given the considerable extent of your bike knowledge. Sew ups are not lousy tires, nor are they a poor choice. They are much faster and lighter than clinchers, and at 150psi provide Ferrari like handling. I've restored perhaps 80 bikes, and yes, only one, a race Guerciotti, has clinchers. But I cherish and enjoy it FOR WHAT IT IS immensely. Sew ups are still in use today by pro racers, and I'll bet some of your high end bikes actually came with sew ups, until the previous owner swapped to clinchers for ease of tire repair and perhaps durability. Of course, modern tubulars and greatly improved over 1960's kit. You don't have to glue them anymore, use two sided tape.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      I wouldn't call it a prejudice. It's a preference. I just don't enjoy dealing with them. Don't like gluing them. Everything you said is correct in regards to performance. However. I don't necessarily ride these things for performance. I hang out with car collectors too and I've never heard anyone complain about how they're stock factory 57 Chevy performs. It doesn't matter, you just enjoy the ride in the history of it. I'm the same way with bicycles. So I am in agreement with you. Tubulars perform wonderfully. Keep in mind, however, most people that are taking the advice in this video are most likely more of a novice. Experience people like yourself already have your preferences. I hope that explains my position better. Thanks so much for watching. Perhaps someone would read this and decide that they would rather have the performance and go with tubulars and that would be great.

  • @ArrabayObachkar
    @ArrabayObachkar Před 11 měsíci

    Hey bro! How are you!
    I like that bike and I want to buy!
    I'm from Morocco 🇲🇦.

  • @uniquenamegoeshere2263
    @uniquenamegoeshere2263 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought a Bob Jackson after watching this video.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 3 měsíci

      Awesome, was it in good shape?

    • @uniquenamegoeshere2263
      @uniquenamegoeshere2263 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes! Stunning paint scheme. I believe it’s a mid 1980s bike. There is no online database for BJ serial numbers, I have to pay them to look up when it was made. There was a hop in the rear wheel that I fixed quickly, just a tire that was not quite seated. A brilliant bike, and one of about a dozen in my collection of old bikes. I have a 1971 PX-10 that is ratty looking, but rides great, I rolled the dice on that one.

  • @attybong
    @attybong Před rokem +1

    problem with vintage road bikes is there are no size small classic frames available ..
    i would have loved to restore one and install modern components on it😢

  • @cornelliusroxas
    @cornelliusroxas Před 2 lety +1

    Do you prefer decals be clear coated or on top of clear coat?

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem +1

      Honestly I don't restore paint on the bicycles I have. I have a couple that were done like my Red colnago. Those decals were cleared over. If the bike is original paint I'd say just put them on top. But if you're getting a bicycle repainted may as well put them underneath. They will last much longer.

  • @pjstock135
    @pjstock135 Před rokem +2

    1. close the front brake and rock the bike back and forth to check for a loose headset. (though that can be adjusted easily and is not a flaw)
    2. though more important, swing the bars L&R and feel for for brinnelled or pitted. a bad one will feel "indexed". it will kind of clunk into a position headset. that means either a replacement headset or repacking with loose balls (if a bad headset has caged bearings, loose balls will often follow a different track and so avoid the pits)..
    3. do the labels even match the frame? (I've still got a "Gios Torino" frame wiht a 68mm BSA BB shell. And I highly doubt Gios ever used anything but 70mm Italian BB shells) check the pantograph cutouts (remember lots of makers used the Club motif so associated with Colnago). Do the decals lineup and look neatly installed? Are they vinyl stickers (which will feel raised and are cheaper and likely aftermarket) or are they water decals under the original clearcoat (original)
    4.; does the fork match the main frame? the front and rear dropouts should be the same make. a replacement fork is ALWAYS suspect and likely an indication of a front end crash, even if there is not evidence on the frame itself.
    5. this from another bike enrhusiast who saw the video: "I neglected to check the water bottle braze ons once. The broken bolt was really tough to get out.
    Probably could have bargained the seller down another hundred bucks for that…" I'lll add that a seized bolt and completely strip the nut from the frame and then you need a replacement rivnut. which is a real hassle.
    6. another tip from another collector: "Run your fingernail under the downtube (to check for bulges or crash damage). It allows a higher level of discernment than your finger."
    7. measure the frame yourself. even some experienced bike collectors and sellers do not know how to measure a frame correctly (or make mistakes) and might well list a 56cm frame as a "58cm".
    Of course you first have to know what frame size you are after and suits you. You have have these figures memorized or in your back pocket. there is really no need to test ride a bike if you know your metrics.
    Correct frame size is basically driven by PBH (Pubic Bone Height).and has little to do with physical height ("i.e. how tall you are)
    www.tocycles.com/what-frame-size.html

  • @pegeen7802
    @pegeen7802 Před měsícem

    If I buy a bike (48/49) and immediately replace the stem (80mm) to make it shorter, should I actually be looking for a smaller frame? I find a lot of 49s have longer stems, that otherwise seem perfect. What is the typical stem length on a bike that size?

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před měsícem +1

      Honestly its all personal, plus other variables. I know people with short legs and longer torsos. That would sometimes cause someone to put a longer stem or vise-versa. Some, Its a matter of how flexable someone is. I ride taller frames so I don't have to put taller stems on them. You do what fits you!

  • @nickpatridge4178
    @nickpatridge4178 Před 5 měsíci

    Hello, I have a vintage Guerciotti that I have had displayed for over 30 years. I believe it to be identical to the one in this video. We are currently preparing to move across the country and I am considering to list it for sale. Could you recommend a company that I should list with and possibly an estimated value. I hate to part with it but with the move and being 68 now I believe it could be someone else art piece to enjoy. Any help is appreciated. Nick

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 5 měsíci

      Hey Nick. My email address is on the front page of my channel. If you would like you may send me some pics of the bicycle and I might be able to give you some guidance on price.

    • @nickpatridge4178
      @nickpatridge4178 Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you and will do. @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage

  • @Leslie-ye2is
    @Leslie-ye2is Před 2 měsíci

    Anyone interested in the Canberra Australia frame builder Keith Davis. I have a Keith Davis 708 Reynolds, Pegasus components and in great condition. I love it, these frames just propel along. Im wanting to know if others appreciate the Keith Davis bikes.

  • @solb101
    @solb101 Před 9 měsíci

    Are you collecting them to look at or do you actually ride them?

  • @dustinnovitzke3029
    @dustinnovitzke3029 Před rokem

    Nick all back

  • @jamespratt1459
    @jamespratt1459 Před 8 měsíci

    Is a1968 all pro k mart 10 speed worth anything it's all blue

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 8 měsíci

      To someone there is a value.. I dont think the collector market has gone after any dept store bikes yet.

    • @jamespratt1459
      @jamespratt1459 Před 8 měsíci

      @@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage rhanks

  • @henrilebovic5229
    @henrilebovic5229 Před 2 lety

    Hi I need your/ someone's help. Is a 1999 Trek 7500 multitrek in good condition for $150 a good deal!? If not what would be? They guy who is selling restores many bikes.

  • @dgillies5420
    @dgillies5420 Před rokem +2

    7:44 who can see the mistake in bike setup at this instant of the film?

    • @jaycahow4667
      @jaycahow4667 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Looks like the front shifter cable is wrapping around the seat tube.

  • @IS-xk3iq
    @IS-xk3iq Před 2 měsíci

    Wanting to buy a Frejus Italian bicycle, but these purchases requiring shipping, so it would be hit and miss. Would you buy a bicycle through a photo?

  • @brittanydonneberg4918
    @brittanydonneberg4918 Před 11 měsíci

    This bike was really easy to assemble czcams.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 11 měsíci

      I thought it was a value. Hard to find bikes in this condition. I'm willing to pay up for them for sure!

  • @quepedoyt7756
    @quepedoyt7756 Před 2 měsíci

    Buenas tardes, tengo una bicicleta FUJI SAGRES antigua creo que es año 1985 en excelentes condiciones nunca reconstruida, que precio puede tener?

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I am not looking to buy. I dont know what that would be worth. Check Ebay! Thanks for watching

  • @abdulgaffarabdulsattarrath9722

    Indian shipping possible ?

  • @colletjulien
    @colletjulien Před 2 lety

    I would add that 7 speeds + frames can accommodate even a 12s Campagnolo, but up to six speeds frame were less wide at the back.

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety

      I cold set my pro Miyata to fit a 11-speed Ultegra kit

    • @death2pc
      @death2pc Před 2 lety

      Bike Brainiac Julien, give the sizes of rear ends/dropouts........? How many are there..........?

  • @btx5740
    @btx5740 Před 2 lety +1

    Any bike w/ram handle bars is vintage
    that’s what I ride

  • @marievictoire1939
    @marievictoire1939 Před 2 lety

    I like tubs

  • @peregrine63701
    @peregrine63701 Před rokem

    What is considered a vintage bike? Tia

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před rokem

      Wouldn't you agree that the answer is somewhat subjective? I am 56 and I consider anything older than 1990 a vintage bike. If a bike has a brifter or a double pivot break, I have a hard time considering that vintage. But I know many that think anything before 2000 is vintage. I think it's up to your perspective. Probably no wrong answer

  • @supertec2023
    @supertec2023 Před 2 lety +1

    First thing to look for is price

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety +1

      Getting a good value is important. However value is so subjective I stayed away from it. Also. If that bike you have been looking for for the last 5 years comes up for sale. Sometimes price isnt the biggest factor. Thanks for watching.

  • @1a2b3c4.
    @1a2b3c4. Před rokem

    John
    Is impossible to look for everything you recommend and find a bike in great condition.
    Because you have them all 😂🤣😂

  • @tcrysty595
    @tcrysty595 Před 2 lety +1

    what about money budget ... idea is to take a barn find and restore with min budget there is the smart way ... not to give money on expensive NOS bikes

    • @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage
      @JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage  Před 2 lety

      I agree. I'm sure you saw at the beginning that I wasnt going to talk about condition, which means budget. That is personal. I'm just doing my best to inform folks what to look for so you dont buy a turd. I'm not a flipper either. I leave those videos for people that flip for a living or for fun. Thanks for watching!