How Much Do Rockets Pollute? Are They Bad For Our Air?
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
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00:00 - Intro
06:00 - WHAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT THE FLAMEY END OF A ROCKET?
16:15 - WHAT DO DIFFERENT ROCKETS EMIT?
29:10 - WHY ROCKET EMISSIONS ARE UNIQUE
31:50 - ROCKET VS AIRLINERS
41:50 - ROCKET LAUNCHES VS AIRLINER FLIGHTS TOTALS
45:10 - ROCKETS VS EVERYTHING
48:20 - HOW CAN ROCKETS BE IMPROVED?
51:35 - SUMMARY
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People: "I'm becoming crazy after 2 days at home"
Same people: "I'd love to go to Mars, it's my dream"
Introverts: I was born for this
As a major introvert, when I read about the psychological issues a Mars mission faces, most of the listed problems look like major benefits to me.
@@thejimmydanly As an introvert myself, i rather be isolated, especially on another planet. Plus I am onboard with Elon's " I'd rather die on Mars, just not on impact" thing. I-got-hit-by-a-car death is boring.
The introverts often forget that they're anything but alone on Mars.
Pressured and temperature-regulated real-estate will be a scarce commodity during the first years (decades?) on Mars.
You'd be sharing a small habitat with dozens of people with very little privacy.
Think Antarctic research station or submarine, not city apartment or loft.
Oh - and pretty much no Internet as bonus - no Netflix, no YT, no Disney+, no Snapchat no TikTok.
lol before the "event" and after the "event" my life is more or less the same so far, stay at home all day, and only go out when I must get things... I think I've spent years training for life in space lol jk.
I am totally digging the - "Source : Tim Dodd" video footage. That's gotta feel good to know it's your footage. That's a total milestone for Everyday Astronaut
He makes the music as well, I think it's really cool.
Yes
the effort behind each of these videos is mind boggling- you're doing an amazing job tim
Q
"Why is there smoke coming out of your rocket, Elon?"
"Oh, that isn't smoke, it's steam! Steam from the water deluge system. Mmmm, water deluge."
MmmmmmMMMMMmm
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, A WATER DELUGE
-"It will take a solar farm the size of 6 football fields!"
-"So be it"
I love this guy
It's an idiots answer to complicated problem. Elon is a scam artist. Watch Thunderfoots videos about Elon.
@@Rainaman- bruh
@@fl488 who?
6 football field is not that much in my opinion, thought you were going to say size of NY city.
@@sevencostanza3931 its not but you also need all the batteries to last for at least a few months with no input power which we do not have enough batteries in the world to do that yet.
I believe that nuclear (fission or fusion) would be a far better option with these planets powering CO2 removal systems as well as most of the world. the waste from these would only be about a football field stacked 50m high. Though the waste removal or processing must be improved. Thorium reactors may help with this though
This will be a easy quick video- Tim March 2019
Insert picture of Tim 50 years in the future, where he's still Not done Researching
@@dabaschti9814 as he publishes re-upload no. 74 with new data and corrections
Next video is going to take him until next year.
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
I'll start chiseling the tombstone
One small upload for man, one giant leap of watch time for mankind
darklight 2k7 clever I love it
a man*
@@dismiggo sorry I was sleepy
Raipers
True
I'm really late here, over a year late. Your videos are literally HUGE. But these are also that comprehensive, with so much information provided, that every minute spent on watching them is worth it! Thank you! 😁
the effort behind each of these videos is mind boggling- you're doing an amazing job tim
I didn't know what "in detail" meant... until I watched a 55-minute video to answer a seven-word question.
Simple questions have some of the longest answers. Some even have whole fields of studies dedicated to them.
I take it you're new to the channel. I recommend the equally long video about the different types of rocket engines
And he didn't take the manufacturing into account. ^^ That's why people do 3 to 8 years PhD to answer a question.
CO2 to CH4, can home solar do that to run small engines? Big CH4 plants can power gas turbines etc? Methane powered container shipping? Pollution from latest rockets is so small. Thanks for the numbers.
The lovely life of studying through problem oriented project work 😂 my life for the last 4 years
When 55 minutes feel like 15 minutes, you've probably watched a video from Everyday Astronaut
That is so true. Well done Tim! Keep them coming.
whilst playing kerbal
Just found this channel and I'm impressed
True true, I didn't realize that it was that long before I read your post. Again I love these videos.
or smoked weed
I don't know of anyone who puts their whole heart and soul into their videos like Tim does. That's what you call CONTENT.
I might just make a list of people, but he works really hard on these for sure. You know, considering this video is an hour long. Why can't you be more like chris random, he is like two comments down.... ps. what is your stance on politics. :)
whats so funny tho? peace
This dude makes fantastic videos.
Thank you so much for your time and stress making this. I'm an atmospheric physicist I’ve been wondering the same question for years and haven’t even dreamed of having the time to investigate all the complexities. Honestly this is enough research to be published into a paper. It makes me want to turn all my research into videos rather than papers that nobody will read... much more impact through a video!
Go for it man! I know nothing about atmospheric physics and would love to learn some!
Yes, give me those vids!
You only have other stuff on your channel. Boring stuff like survival, sports and drones. Where are those sweet sweet lectures???
Weatherwax 😂 sorry my bad, let me whip one up for ya 😘
You should do both!
I am 35 minutes in and I just realized the sign behind him changes colors.
Great job with the video Tim. You make boring stuff interesting.
yea, same I am only 30 minutes in though
55 minutes...
@@azerwhite8870 LOL
spoiler alert
Because it does not change before that point.
I love how long these videos are. Sometimes it is annoying, but it is great when I want to learn the content of an academic paper without having to dive through some high number of paragraphs, each containing words none of my family members nor me have ever seen in our lives. My mother is a lawyer, and even she has no idea what they are saying, despite knowing 90% of Latin roots and memorizing a large portion of the dictionary to heart.
8 minute intro
This was so interesting! I have a phd in propulsion fluid dynamics, and actively work on rocket propulsion research, and a bunch of this was brand new information to me, and also so good to know about. It's one thing to say you care about the planet, but it's more important to make sure you don't have a blind spot to your own activities. Seriously great job!!
design the expansion side of the nozzle using the axisymmetric method of characteristics, corrected by BL displacement thickness. ?
Lets just be clear, it took a global pandemic for Tim to finally finish this video.
Love you Tim
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This was such a fun video to work on with you, Tim. Rockets are awesome!
I wish I knew how to boost this comment somehow!
Big thanks Lisa, Tim seemed pretty well informed about the basics of climate - sadly quite rare because of all the partisan shouting that goes on - and I'm guessing that is largely due to your work ( plus Tim having the sense to employ someone do the research ).
Thank you Lisa
Thanks! :D
Lisa Stojanovski Finally got a chance to watch this in it’s entirety! Great job, Lisa! Hard work pays off! Good work as always, @EverydayAstronaut!
I love these long videos, Tim. They obviously take a bunch of work to make them, great job!
00:07
I didn’t know you could grow rockets
Yeah, how do you think SpaceX are turning out so many Starship prototypes?
how do you get the seeds
@@small_SHOT they are stored in the copvs and when rockets explode and die, they fire their copvs and make them go in every direction spreading seeds
@@small_SHOT in nasa’s secret vault
yes you can grow rockets in your backyard using a hydrogen bottle and then just wait around 3 years and you have a rocket
Is it just me, or is everybody wandering around, unable to get that leafblower/F150 comparison out of their head? Anyhow, the obvious solution is a full flow staged combustion cycle leaf blower.
You'd then have to be careful not to launch yourself into orbit by accidentally hitting the throttle :)
I have always thought leafblowers were the most stupid, anti-environmental invention ever. Use a rake!!
An LB has no advantage over a rake at all. It's not even faster or easier to use. You can't even gather the leaves together for composting with an LB! People typically just blow the leaves off their property and onto the road. Stupid.
@@DunnickFayuro According to the back of this here envelope, you'd hit Mach 1 in 0.3 seconds. Now THAT is a leaf blower!
@@deanmichalos6848 corded electric models not that wasteful, the idea is that your blow all the stuff into a pile, then use your rake & shovel to load the stuff into the yard waste bin // if you for example use a push reel mower (hand foot human power rotary blade) to cut grass & want to clean up the grass clippings, a rake does not really work very well, but an electric leaf blower in yard vac mode works great // after your blow all the grass into a pile to suck up //
@@deanmichalos6848 always felt same.
This is beyond CZcams level. This is a Ken Burns-level documentary. Amazing work! :D
Watch the aerospike video it's longer and better
Hahaha "Ken Burns" haha
1:14
why was that so satisfying?
I know right lol
Tim: "you need 12500 rocket launches a day to match airliners"
Me in ksp with 25000 launches a day
O.o
Kerbin is 10 times smaller than earth
@@zhurs-mom Its a game.......?
@@Teddy-bg3bo yeah, Kerbal Space Program, great game to wrap your head around rocket science.
My Kerbin doesnt have ice caps anymore
Rookie numbers
I can't thank you enough for this video, I have been in arguments with people about rocket pollution, trying to explain them how they are not half as polluting as they look at launch. And how the value that we generate from a launch outweighs the negatives of one. You put it all together really well. I am going to share this everywhere and will use your video every time I get into an argument regarding rocket pollution ever again.
Also, I have said this before and I say this again. What an incredibly researched video. Tim, you are setting the gold standard for CZcams production quality. Videos so well worked out we can learn a lot of rocket science by watching them and reading the resources. Great graphs this time around(animations otherwise), very well crafted and amazingly structured. I love everything you do, have been doing that for a long time and intend to continue it for the foreseeable future.
🙏🙏🙏
@@EverydayAstronaut Nice video!, here some questions and some things that you might add:
1-Why you use the case of a single starship without the booster for long range passenger transport? Elon used the booster for that, not sure that an starship loaded with 400 passengers (around 50 tons of payload) could reach very far being reusable. I don't know, I am asking.
2-Water vapor is not even comparable with co2, it is a more potent greenhouse gas, but it last only from days to few months (depending the altitude) vs hundreds of years of co2, then we also consider that most of the emissions happen at lower altitude instead at higher altitude.
3- Electrolysis does not consume much energy, today electrolysers are at 90% efficiency, current liquefaction plants are at 70% efficiency, but just scaling up (which you need to make rocket fuel) you can have a plant with 85% of efficiency. One more case, you need to store solar and wind energy one way on another into hydrogen to solve the seasonal disparities and to clean the other 50% of global co2 emissions that came from the utility transport sector and the natural gas grid, those thing can not be solved with batteries (is not practical neither cost efficient).
4-You mention how many football fields of solar panels are needed to make enough fuel for the starship on mars, but you did not mention how much time it would require to fill those, is not the same that amount of panels to refill a starship every 1 month than every 2 years.
That was fascinating! An incredible amount of research. Thank you and your team for all that hard work!
Epic video and so informative! Love how all the knock on effects and bigger picture points have been covered
I should have pointed out the source that Starship Point to Point likely won't use a booster, here's the source for that!
“Add 2 to 4 more Raptors for Starship point to point on Earth. You can go surprisingly far, even with low lift/drag. This was an unexpected result." - twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1134023034908446723?s=20
"Ah, so single-stage point-to-point? That sounds way better."
"Yeah, *way* better. Dramatically improves cost, complexity & ease of operations. Distances of ~10,000 km with decent payload seem achievable at roughly Mach 20." - twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1134025184942313473?s=20
Everyday Astronaut why does this comment have 1 like and no comments?
Well the dragon 2 capsule can actually handle 7 passengers, Ik it has four seats for ISS config but it can be configured for seven seats
Um, I think we need another video on that.
New video out today from SpaceX, using a booster
Of course there should feel use when the Starship
These documentaries are so well made and full of useful information, they put to shame almost anything you can find on TV.
I like how you can call it a documentary it’s just that good
TV? What is that? :)
True
Ps zzz
Completely agree - this is my go-to for info on space.
Just wanted to shout out a thank you! Been watching this channel for a few years now. Its been so great to watch you explain these topics in a Saganesque manner. Thanks for giving us QUALITY content during this crazy time to be alive. See you on the moon ;)
Your deep dive videos are awesome, helping me get through another 2 months of lockdown here in Melbourne, Australia. Great music too. Cheers mate, loving it
Rockets aren’t the problem. There are so many other things to focus on before people start complaining about pollution of rockets.
This video is amazing man and so insightful. You are a legend! Keep up the brilliant videos man.
Java Man True. Rockets do not launch frequently either so rockets are one of the last things to worry about
14rs2 Depends on the Rocket. Anything using hydrazine (UDMH, MMH) and di-nitrogen tetroxide are pretty bad no matter how you look at it. The fuel and oxidiser are both extremely dangerous and their by products are extremely dangerous. They are also hypergolic. While it’s not pollution in the generally accepted sense (growing problem, contribution to global warming, etc.), all of those things post immediate problems before, during and after launch. But they are used because they still give very good performance.
Rockets are not a problem if we continue to use them as we do now, taking payloads to orbit. If we try to implement Elon's dumbass idea of replacing airline travel with rocket travel, then the number of launches increases to the point where it becomes a huge problem. The ozone layer would be decimated by thousands of re-entries a day. But as long as Elon gets his daily fix of Twitter attention, he doesn't care if his ideas are feasible or not.
Rockets aren't the problem yet. And that is why now is the perfect time to discuss those issues so the companies don't start their usual song of how much it would cost and the economic loss of switching to better methods, like those people always do when left unattended for to long.
@@javaman4584 Like Joe Holland stated, they aren't "completely unregulated" but definitely aren't without their issues either.
Like in certain territorial waters strict rules are supposed to be in place with regards what one can do with the various byproducts leftover after water and fuel filtering. I don't know if it's strictly speaking legal to dump certain of those things in international waters or other places with less strict regulation, but let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few companies save some money doing it the easy or cheaper way.
I'd definitely consider it to be a sector where improvements would be meaningful.
It's late in Europe so i'll watch the video tomorrow and I'm really looking forward to it!
Muhaha I'll spoil it for you
IN THE END HE TALKS ABOUT HIS MERCHANDISE STORE
True, but I have nothing to do tomorrow so away I go
@cake Someone has to be evil to keep the universe balanced
Bitch just watch til 2:00, bit of persistence mate
@@sheggle Actually 01:52 now and I just finished watching the video :D
nice and long format! i love it! i dont have to look for anything else to watch for long time! appreciate the research you put into it!
I'd like to say thank you for spending so much time just for us
I paused this to go get some snacks only to realize I had been watching for 40 minutes already. Goes to show how interesting this video is :)
*Thank you for bringing space down to me, Tim*
- an everyday person
Wow Tim! I really enjoyed the video! Thank you for the amount of time, money, effort and research you put into this. It's really an eye opener! You are an inspiration!
@EverydayAstronaut this has to be one of the best vids I've watched to learn about rocketry and its environmental impact.
Me: Oh wow, 56 minutes? This is going to take a while to get through.
Me, 54 minutes later: Hol' up, that's it? It's already over?
this... lol.. i thought that this is gonna be loooonnngg video (well,, it is), lets watch it for a few minute... and i suddenly realise,,, i watched the whole video xD
Every single video lol captivating stuff!
As soon as I see the video in my notifications: YESSSSSSSSSSS
That was my same reaction and I immediately started watching it!
@HO LAM YIU lol
Thank you so much! This video and the article version were a huge help for one of my university essays!
My favorite thing about your videos is how you timestamp each topic. It makes it so easy to return or skip to a section you’d want to hear.
Tim Dodd you did it again!
A proper professional scientific study with a clear and nuanced explanation. I absolutely love these type of videos and I admire the effort you and your patrons put into making these videos. Keep up the great work!
I'd love to support you on your next video's as soon as I have money to spare.
That shot of reentry from the fairing's point of view blows me away every time. Looks like the stargate from 2001
I've always wondered about this - thanks for such a detailed video! Must have taken months to research.
Great concept for making this topic understandable and absorbable - brilliantly executed
I’ve been waiting so long for this! :D
Thanks man my 11 year old son was just asking me about this a week ago and I was like I know a guy who is working on the answer I'll get back to you.
*_And today on, Things That Totally Happened_*
@@hypeninja4786 I started asking questions on space and creation at 10 some kids are really curious
Thank you so much for these videos! I basically binge-watched your videos the past couple of days and they re-ignited the fascination for space travel and rockets I had as a child. The quality of the videos is outstanding, they are like documentaries. Best online-class ever. Even though I should probably get back to studying for my exams now.
Oh brother. I've learned so much from this video. Thank you guys for your hard work. Looking forward to another awesome videos like this one. Good luck..❤❤❤
How is this quality of content not getting more views?
Awesome job, thank you for your work!
"Get your periodic tables ready" This chemistry student has been ready for years
btw, polybutadiene acrylonitrile is pronounced poly-buta-di-ene acrilo-nitrile. The break is where the descriptive factors are
14:24 you nailed this one though
@Lewis Massie: well done on the 11:30-ish pronunciations
TTS can easily help with these. I'm sure he made use of that. I do it all the time.
Excellent work, a monsterous compilation of statistics. I like the summary comparison of types and sources. Eye opening. Thanks for your dilligence in producing quality programing.
Quality over time indeed. You really did this good, Tom Didd
this is funny
Thanks so much! I am an engineer at an aerospace company and Ive been looking for this exact information! This is the best content I have found thank you again!
I like this video alot and love space exploration. And so I wish that it continues and continues to improve on emissions/efficiency. Great job Tim on a difficult matter.
idk when exactly I subscribed last year, but it feels like this video has been announced since I know this channel...
Hahaahah
It's been a long time in the making haha
As a child, way back in the 1960's, I often got in to this argument with my mom. She thought that the rockets were not only polluting, but they were punching holes in the atmosphere and pushing the Earth out of orbit. Even back then, as young and naive as I was, I kind of realized the aspects of rocket flight as you were mentioning in this video. They were, and are just a miniscule drop in the bucket compared to the emissions that everything else we used or currently use today.
thats hilarious
it's a drop in the bucket now. but with all these space travel plans, eventually there "will be" multiple rocket launches per day. what does the pollution look like with 10 per day? 20? by the time a group of starships reach mars you've launched hundreds maybe thousands of rockets in a short period of time. im sure you will find a way to ignore this and keep cheering on for space travel.
Your best ever Tim! You nailed some complex ideas like radiative forcing in completely understandable language. Not easy to do.
im so glad i watched this video, its given me a whole new perspective on this topic! thanks! :D
Tim: *posts pollution video
*everyone liked that*
This video flew by, am so grateful for all your effort and dedication. Thank you as well to you Patreons. Love your content Tim, keep on keeping on - I'm excited by the prospect of a potential future follow up about surface pollution and/or space pollution.
YOU'RE THE BEST! :D
Very nice breakdown of a very complex topic. I appreciate that kind of content greatly.
Such thorough content, and methodic demonstration! Waw! Congratulations and thank you very much :)
Me: *this 3 minute CZcams video is too long, click away*
Also me: "Oh, Everyday Astronaut dropped another 55 minute video, let's watch that all the way thorugh in one sitting!"
Followed by hitting 'replay' to make sure you didn't miss anything the first time around!
ronn kelley haha
Me: only videos
Tim, you're an amazingly passionate guy, and that passion is contagious, and in the tough times we are living, it's great to have moments of relief such as watching your shows! Keep up the GREAT GREAT work, we all love it! 😊👍
Excellent video and straight to the point!Thanks for sharing your knowledge :)
Excellent! I was looking for just this! thank you!
19:55 that footage of starhopper looks like an UFO, the birds just add to the effect.
Hi Tim you have worked so hard on this video I literally stopped everything I was doing to watch it😀👍🚀
Fantastic explanation, I didn't realize the video was so long!! but it seems so well done and interesting that you don't notice the time spent to watch the video at all.
Dude.... this is amazing. Your content is FANTASTIC. Keep up the good work fren
Why is this channel soooo good at its job? Proper, in depth study from every point of view. Simple to grasp yet technical explanation. Non-biased points of view. Great video editing. Excellent public image and inspiring attitude.... aaand time stamps... something often neglected by other youtubers... is there anything missing here?
Hey Mr. Astronaut, I watched the whole thing. I spread it out over a week, and I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for all that research and giving us the actual numbers!
This was incredibly informative and helpful. Information I can use in my teaching.
Great job and fascinating subject, as always. Thanks, Tim!
If starlink can help people work from home, and therefore not have to drive o work, maybe those launches will reduce overall co2 output.
This video was just great brother. Thank you for all the hard work that you've done on this one. Very much looking forward to your next one as well as your DM-2 coverage!!
The insane amount of information is just facinating. Can't believe I actually sat here for an hour watching
Wow I can believe it took me so long to find your channel. Amazing. I am grateful. Off to the merch store!
Keeps politics out of videos? yep, you have my subscription. I'll even ring the bell
Yep
Yep yep
Okay.... What's your opinion on the vegans.
Check @TheUrbanist his channel is about architecture, art, food and travel. He has the same policy.
Pollution is politics.
I love how you poor all your energy heart, soul for all the details to be as accurate as possible! Keep it up Timm!
What a great dive deep. Thanks for the hard work to add clarity to general population concern on the topic. You rock!
This is one of your best work. Deserves more views.
Thank you Tim. It's hard to not feel a bit bleak at the moment - your enthusiasm always helps lift the mood.
I am curious to look at the CZcams statistics for this video. Particularly the average watch time for this video.
Ha! Yep, and how many commented before having watched a significant portion of the video :)
Far too long I skipped 98% of it
As much as I’d love to watch the whole thing, there are countless other hour-long things I’d prefer to do instead.
Shabdhu 55:40
Robert Kissler:
People who used to swallow fast food in McDonald's can't appreciate delicious dishes in 5* restaurant.
Thank you Mr. Dod for doing the research for this and educating
This is so accessible for such complicated intersecting topics!
My man Tim with the real talk about the externalized costs of manufacturing and complete supply chain ecological economics!
Yo, so glad you posted this today, I really needed it:)
Very good job to make things clear about this!
Thank you for making these amazing videos that make me watch from start to end.
Space is awesome, rockets are awesome, and so are you!
Awesome job as usual, Tim! Going to be deep-diving into the research tomorrow but we just used your video on “Is Raptor king of the rocket engines?” today as our science class and we had to compare turbo chargers to turbo pumps, went over the 4 rocket engine cycles, etc. Have you ever considered doing a video on rocket engine gimbals?
21:00 I've never seen a sooty super heavy render, cool! It feels so much more tangible not looking impossibly pristine.
Imma use this for future arguments
Thanks so much
This whole intro :
We'll get more into that a bit later.
EVERYDAY ASTRONAUT SAVES ME FROM MY SOCIAL ISOLATION🙏
This is great, I'm writing a school paper on the sustainability of Starlink and this, with all it's wonderful sources, and new perspectives is an amazing help in tackling the ecological sustainability of Starlink.
Did you find any relevant sources on the production of Falcon and Starship/Super Heavy? I understand that you didn't have time to include, or research, too much on that for the video, if you found anything though that would be a huge help!
It's amazing to see the content that you can and get to produce these days, with you very own footage for all kinds of things, and such incredible research and detail on the subject. I'm loving these longer videos!
Really good vid - learned quite a lot. Thank you.👍