What do Russians in Estonia think about Putin's war in Ukraine? | Focus on Europe
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- In Estonia, fear of a Russian invasion is increasing. Many Estonians with Russian roots live in the town of Narva. What do they think?
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Estonia is the perfect example of what Russia does to small nations. When they annexed the country, in '39 and after '45, they repressed the native Estonians and brought in hundreds of thousands of native Russians to turn the country's own major ethnicity into a minority. They deported and executed native intellectuals. They repressed the usage of the Estonian language - something that is vital to the survival of such a small culture.
Pretty much what China does now to Tibet.
Russia did the same in Crimea as well. They will do the same in Ukraine. I hope that Putin doesn't wake up soon and this nonsense can be stopped.
Yup… they did exactly the same thing with Ukraine, but also tried to starve the Ukrainians to death during holodomor
The military industrial complex wish to thank Putin.
@@user-nv5iz4ss2s In Australia, indigenous people make up only 2% of the population (despite representing 25% inmates, tragically). Prior to 1700s, they made up 100% of the population. I'm Aussie and it's a travesty. All forms of racism, war, genocide, murder are appalling and should be treated as such. Just because one country has almost wiped out their first nations peoples, doesn't give anyone else the right to do it!
kisfekete Destroying the language is essential for destroying cultures. Turkey forbade Kurds to speak their own language. Quebec, Wales, many First Nation Tribes had to struggle to keep their languages relevant. It can be done by force, or by making it difficult to participate in the functioning of any country. It is a tool of subjugation. Mongolia is now in a struggle to preserve their language in the schools. Languages shape how our brains think. It is a huge warning if any try to change the language a people speak in their own lands.
There's a reason the former Soviet nations joined NATO and it's not because they were forced, bribed or payed to.
Exactly.
Security, a better future and away from Mafia.
@@milomilo417 Load of rubbish.
@@milomilo417 Here is a better idea. Mr Putin should stop murdering Ukrainians, and wasting the lives of Russian soldiers.
kreml bot spotted
As a Russian just recently moved to Estonia, I can say that most local Estonian-Russians just can't comprehend level of corruption and political pressure happening in Russia.
Are they getting any wiser when you try to bring examples and explain?
@@noneofyourbusiness4830 Slowly and does not work on everyone.
@@noneofyourbusiness4830 Vatniks are vatniks - beyond help.
@Noneof Yourbusiness Who cares, it’s his/her opinion.
В Эстонии и с коррупцией и полит давлением тоже все нормально
I want to say that the opinions on this matter vary indeed, and it is great that you are showing that Russians in Estonia are divided on this question. I was born a few months after Estonia regained its independence, and I grew up in a clearly European society. Estonia being part of the EU gave me many amazing opportunities to study, live and work abroad. I fully support EU’s values, and I love my freedom. I feel European, not Russian. And still, when Russia invaded Ukraine, I felt a lot of pain that people of my origin would do such a dreadful.
I personally have never had any conflicts with Estonians because I was Russian. I have always had respect for their language and culture. And I have to agree with them - the Russians here that complain about their lives in Estonia, who root for Putin, should just leave. You are free people. Go and make choices that support your vision. But you sitting here and making the lives of the locals more complicated with your unfair, biased critique creates more problems for you in the end. Don’t bother the people who want to be European.
How quickly they forget. It is so sad. Russia is so large. If they want to back Russia they should move there!!!!!!
@G.F.W. Interessant. Könnt ihr Bücher dazu empfehlen? Ich habe nur „Bloodlands“ von Timothy Snyder
True. Often Russians talk like they don't have a homeland. Russia is big and there's loads of room. Go and live, hang a picture of Putin on your wall. But no, they want to get the European perks and money while worshipping a dictator.
True. As an aside, I am an American of central European heritage (Polish, Italian, German, and Hungarian). Those are the countries from which my great-grandparents immigrated. I acknowledge my heritage, yet my allegiance is to the USA, the country of my birth. I do not have any issues with Russian people or Russians who have chosen to immigrate to the US. I was hoping that Russia would continue to move in a western direction as far as citizens rights are concerned, but now I have my doubts. That saddens me.
@@g.f.w.6402 Yet, the USA would and that is a major difference between US and Germany... one a great power while the other not so much.
So with the older man complaining about having to leave Donesk because of fighting to Estonia ( NATO)......If he thinks the Russians have liberated Donesk then why not stay there or move to Russia? So many people support Russia but yet they don't want to live under their regime and lower salaries......They support Russia but want to live in NATO countries.
Well said! Many keyboard warriors are coming out now to vote with their words rather than their feet.
@@milomilo417 Because the Russians look so good now! After they failed so much in Ukraine only a fight with NATO they need.
@MrQ454 The Baltics should be next. NATO can't guarantee anything.
If ever Russia & NATO clashes, it will be Nuclear war. Do you really think France or Germany will be willing to engage in a nuclear fight over the Baltics?
I don't think France or Germany will be willing to engage in a nuclear fight over the Baltics. They are practical, they are just loud mouths but they wanna live, they will rather cut off their losses so cut off the Baltics.
NATO is just a moneymaking scheme to force the European vassals to buy American arms. Don't you know the stocks of General Dynamics & Raytheon are skyrocketing now?
The European governments are already allocating billions to buy arms & they are not going to buy from anywhere but from the US only.
There are only 2 stocks earning double now: energy & military supplies. The Russians are earning big in the energy sector but the Americans are dancing "Happy Days are Here Again" for the hundreds of billions the American military industrial complex (MIC) is getting from their European vassals. This may not happen again until the Baltics are snatched.
So use your head for once: buy stocks of Anerican arm companies & you'll get rich. You might grow some brain yet
@@milomilo417 Lol at least some western stocks are doing good at the moment. Can you remind me of how the Russian stock market are doing at the moment?
Just like the immigrants in Sweden.
Love how Russia created the issue and is now "fixing it" while blaming the west.
they bettter do before we fix it, to great cost either side
That is always how they have handled things, have you noticed how the complicit, vile seditious GOP has picked up the same tactics.
A professor of political science in University of Chicago tells in his lection "Why Ukraine is West's fault"
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@@MegaPlexy I've heard him speak. He should visit the Baltic States and ask why they joined NATO.
John Mearsheimer should consider whether he is being a schmuck.
@@MegaPlexy that professor is not as smart has he thinks he is. neither is he a realist as he calls himself.
"It's always better to have a dialogue than a war". Dialogue with Putin? Good luck with that.
Um, he meant better to have demonstrations than war.
Do you think war with Putin is better?
There've been plenty of dialogues for the past 8 years, but nothing helped, nothing has been heard. What else could Russia have done?
@@mercysummer6196 As if the Russian government is open for dialogue, Russia never took responsibility for its actions in Crimea, the Donbas, and taking down MH17
Do you really believe the Russians are liberating the Donbas by invading the whole of Ukraine?
@@Jvdpfilm what part of Ukraine is to be invaded to liberate Donbass? Dear foreigner, I wish you well, so you would never know what it's like to be terrorized by the citizens of your own country.
The guy who swallows Russian news when living in Estonia.... it's like thinking the sewage farm on one side of your garden fence smells better than your own garden.
Look at the few pieces of western equipment Russia is displaying of older western equipment and are telling Russians they have defeated Ukraine and have just about taken complete control of all of Ukraine , delusional
If you are an Estonian Russian with access to BBC/CNN/DW, and you see the flattened apartment blocks in Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities, it does not require high IQ to question the russian narrative of this being a peacekeeping operation. Kyiv is hundreds of kilometers from Donetsk. How does peacekeeping in Donetsk require the conquest of the entire nation of Ukraine? How does peacekeeping require flattening apartment blocks and houses all over the country? The only peace russia is bringing Ukraine is the peace of the dead.
Did anyone asked the question how all this could be prevented?
What kind of agreement Zelenski signed in Minsk in 2019 and why he didn’t keep his promises?
Because 70 percent of this Republics territories was under Ukraine control. Its casus bellu
Russia doesn’t claim it to be a peacekeeping operation. Russia claims it to be a demilitarization operation. Educate yourself please.
That's true. Russian media is full of blatant lies.
@@korotiwka1983 Why didn't Russia respect the Budapest memorandum? After promising to respect Ukraine's territorial sovereignty in exchange for the removal of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, Russia then annexed Crimea and is has been occupying the Donbas for years. Your talk of promises is laughable.
I am from Estonia. I can confirm that russians here do have totally different lives. Their info comes from completely other sources than normal estonians.
What generation are we talking here about? People after their fifties? May be.....People below that age who speak more than 2 languages usually(one of them being english) are smart enough to watch different sources.
And the Russian people are also not the enemy… I know of no one here in Holland that sees it that way. It’s Putin and his control on the media that is the enemy. Most signs in demonstrations all over the world will mostly show Putin’s name or picture instead of Russia.
The ethnic Russians in Estonia are very segregated from the Estonians... this is very similar to Donbas in Ukraine, be careful Estonia..
@@dannytpartyboy really? Have you ever seen any "western media"? Google "downing Street parties" to see recent and extensive criticism of the UK government by UK media outlets.
@@dannytpartyboy lmao 😂 you missed putting an /s at the end of your comment
Of course RT and Rossiya are criticising Putin right - just don’t mention the WAR!
I´m from Narva, and I see all these moods among people. 80% of the population of Narva support or at least justify this "special operation" by Putin. And I am very ashamed of such people.
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if they are russian citizen theyr visas should be canceled and kick them back to russia
That's because Narva is really part of Russia and not Estonia.
Narva used to be called the 'Baroque pearl of the Baltic Sea' before it was bombed down in 1944 by the Soviet air force.
After the war, most of Narva’s historic buildings could have been restored as the walls of the houses still existed. However, Estonia had fallen under Soviet occupation and in early 1950s, the Soviet authorities decided to demolish the ruins to make way for Soviet style apartment blocks you see in the clip. Ethnic Estonians were prohibited from returning to Narva, and Russian immigrants from the Soviet Union were brought in instead (hence it's a russian-speaking city now). Rebuilding the city today the way it used to be would mean demolishing Soviet prefab apartment buildings, where most people live.
The bombing of Narva was only the beginning - the 1944 March bombings in Estonia lasted for a few weeks. The capital city of Tallinn was also heavily targeted: approximately a third of residential buildings were destroyed and nearly 20,000 inhabitants lost their homes.
do the russian minority acknowledge this history ?
And then now the Russian claim that is their, what, ancestral land or similar BS.
@@tma2001 y t del3ted my previous comment (it got lots of feedback, 1,5k+👍) that had the exact same information I gave here. the video was coincidentally posted on the anniversary the bombing of Narva (March 6, 1944), so I thought I'd give some background info. in the previous thread, people were discussing the issue you ask about and it was shut down. I won't get into this discussion again, because I don't want historical facts to be censored again. hope you understand x
@@marjumeschin yeah putinbots ruin it for everyone ...
Excuse my question. Do You know that Estonia is independent since august 1991? Why the presence of Russian majority in Narva is still such a problem for native Estonians, why was it so difficult to move over there for so many years for them?
It's such a reflex to say "truth lies somewhere in the middle." Not always. Sometimes someone is just wrong. Sometimes a person is lying or mistaken. This is especially the case when scientific observations are being debated. It is still important not to limit one's sources of information, to keep a check against biases. However, often the impulse to try to find "middle ground" is simply one more bias one must fight against when looking for the truth.
♥️ UKRAINE ♥️ 🇺🇦
You are right about a middleway.
The purpose to all Russian trolls in disguise you see everywhere is to distract from the truth. Try to win the war at narraties. In not a win, then try to create space/ground for doubt = middleway
♥️ UKRAINE, stop the trolls telling some false narrative
Thank you! You verbalized perfectly what I've been trying to express for a while now. 100% agree.
exactly when the ONLY thing coming from russia has to be state backed means it is FAR from any truth even the russian truth
@@missealvaheton241
We better understand the landscape hearing that all media by law have to use the term : "militarrecnikal operation" . Words like " war" in Ukraine, or " invation", qualify for prison, max 15 years.. Thats the truth about how important it is to this dictatorship to stop the truth.
We must hope all and everybody that dont see how important democraty is, take their lessons now.
♥️🇺🇳 NATO 🇺🇳 ♥️
@@christophermacintyre5890
And the daylight is fir free, and this cheese is smelling , and you do an attemt to make ground for doubt about this brutal 🇺🇦UKRAINE🇺🇦 war.
You Russian troll in disguise better notice that you long time ago lost the narrative-war you are paid to do
Today all and everybody support and♥️ Ukraine and her brave people ♥️ in any possible way.
And Russians will have to pay a very high price for this madness as long you iet this madman be in Kremlin. No way there will be any peace and normality before he is gone!!
as an estonian Ukraine has my full respect, defend your freedom against putins tyranny, freedom is not free as we and all of post soviet countries showed.
@@milomilo417 baltics are part of NATO, all of NATO members are obliged to help baltics if russians invade.
@@milomilo417 and eat your russian dogfood before it gets cold
*The Baltics’ population shrank by the total 30% since 1991. 😱😱😱 That’s what I call drastically. It’s such a red flag 🚩that the Baltics are bound to disappear as nations in the foreseeable future. We will remember you just like the Dodo Bird ahahahah*
🦤🇪🇪🦤🇱🇹🦤🇱🇻🦤 ahahahahahahahahahah
I guess Russia wouldn't mind if you keep the Ukrainians permanently.
@@m.r.h5644 die NATO-Mitglieder können jeweils selbst entscheiden, in welcher Form sie helfen. Wir schicken dann 5000 Helme von Berlin nach Estland.
USSR wanted to ethnocide estonians. Thats why hundreds of thousands (mainly) russian colonizers were planted in Estonia. Ethnic composition of Estonia went from 97% estonians (in 1945, right after II world war) to 61% estonians (in 1991). If USSR wouldnt have dissolved and kept on its ethnocidal policy, then estonians had become minority in approximately 2030 and would have been unable to regain statehood ever again.
That's what happened to my family. All my great grandparents spoke Estonian and were Estonian, yet by the time I was born only my mother who was born in Ural mountains knew how to speak it and Russian is now the first language in the family.
The British did the same thing regarding colonisation, forbidding native language, halving populations etc but when are we going to face reality and move forward.
Where was DW comments on that major historical note???
This is nothing against the Russian people, however, Russian's in Narva are not the same as Russian's in Russia. The city of Narva (GROSS) should not even be considered part of Estonia. Estonia is a gorgeous country, but the city of Narva is an armpit.
DW, as usual, gives one sided and INCOMPLETE info (and also unsubscribed me, again).
Narva, right on the Russian boarder, is probably 95% Russian. Rest of Estonia is about 27% Russian (thanks to Stalin). Good luck even finding someone who speaks Estonian in Narva.
Tthe Russian population in Estonia is not very integrated with the rest (not as bad as Narva). Notice the "Estonian" girl they interview is speaking Russian (to a DW German interviewer?). Choosing Narva to ask "Estonian's" about Russia is absurd and is done to appeal to the ignorant on this topic. Why not go to REAL Estonian cities such as Parnu, Tallinn, or Tartu (all are also easier to get to than Narva)? In those cities you would get a very good feel of what Estonian's international views are. Estonian's in Narva? DW Might as well interview people about California while in Tijuana (however, with their endless german gov $ funded promotion of open borders, circa 2015) they might just consider it a continent, rather than cities in different countries).
This is what the USA did to the natives as well. The parallels between russia and the usa are similar when it comes to some historical past.
One Ukrainian woman made fun of Putin's tiny limp Vienna sausage and here we are now at war .
The old lady is right. Be "Against war and those who starts war".
Who knows what she said? Her voice was replaced with someone elses voice.
@@PreseditaBrinkmann She didn't quite say "and those who start war" - she said she was "against *Putler* who started the war".
@@PreseditaBrinkmann yeah I wish they put subtitles and not voiceover so those who understand Ukrainian could hear exactly what she said. but the person above me is right and translated the end of her sentence correctly.
"The truth lies somewhere in the middle." ... Sorry but no, not this time. The war in donbass has already been Putin's war and there hasn't been any kind of genocide against Russian civilians there. Our representatives had been there to witness the situation with their own eyes. I was able to ask these guys personally what they have seen there.
The only truth is that Russia is aggressive against Ukraine since the Ukrainian people chose to be free. Russia attacked Ukraine not vice versa. There hasn' t been anything to be prevented of getting worse. There aren't any people that needed to be freed except the Ukrainians themselves from the Russian aggressor. No grey tone in this at all. There is only a innocent side and a evil one...
Really the documentary I watched showed something very different.
What about Ally of Angels in Donetsk in memory of children died during war in Donbass? How did they died if there are no genocide?
@@markm.9731 How many children are now being killed in western Ukraine?
If Putin had just "freed" the Donbass republics, noone would probably even blink an eye.
But he went for Kyiv.
@Temple Reform They shall call their embassies and crossing through the polish border is not clever
@Temple Reform there’s a wR going on there, it’s every man on its own. Nothing to do with racism. Otherwise africans wouldn’t study in Ukraine in the first place. Plus, why were they waiting so long to get out??? It’s been plenty of warning.
"Russians in Estonia don't want to have to choose between East or West" - - - The weak abstain. Alexander likes his standard of living in Estonia. There is the bridge Alexander, choose a side.
behave like a guest or go away, something RUSSIANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND
@@martientegelaers6522 Exactly. You either respect the country you're living in or go and live in the country you respect.
What happens if he chooses Russia? You shouldn’t make this an identity issue and you shouldn’t force people to go against their cultural and ethnicity. This issue should stay in the realm of politics.
@@akon360 east and west was used as a metaphor. Putin's side or democracy. He didn't want to go to protests as this would lead to more confusion etc. Putin is not Russia, siding against him doesn't equate to severing your roots.
Although Putin has been very successful at creating the image of him, his actions and beliefs being that of Russia
Estonia is the NATO puppet, so many great economic oportunities are gone with russia because of west. Estonia will never be successful if one of the neighbours are unfriendly
"The truth is somewhere in the middle" is a classic case of balance fallacy.
If ten people say 1+1=2 and another says 1+1=4, then the truth is not 1+1=3. Sources are important, consensus is important. If you find yourself listening to one source that holds a contrarian view and you let that outweigh all other sources simply because you want to appear to be reasonable, then you're just a conspiracy theorist in training
the most common comment I have seen Russians posting on social media is "There is no truth" or "We will never know the truth". The Kremlin has made their whole population either believe their lies, or believe that there are no truths and everything is subjective.....
I think those Russians in Estonia should take a trip to Ukraine to see with their own eyes what's going on. Go and see what your Russian "liberators" are doing to the civilian population of Ukraine.
they should take a trip back to Russia and stay there
How was your trip to Donbas? did you help the 12,000+ people killed there? I am sure you did...
I will pay you a ticket to Ukraine. As a truly euripean person who wants to help ukraine and have Russia go there and do something))
Yes, make sence, but first go to Donbass. Come and see. Alley of angels
do americans has took a trip to Iraq? Vietnam? Syria?
Pakistan?
All I know is that Estonia is breathing a sign of relief saying, "Thank Goodness we joined NATO, or we probably be next."
Putin, the number one NATO recruiter, ever.
@@alexsalemo9137 Gonna tell Finland the same? Putin threatens Finland, a neutral country, and as a result Finland now wants to join NATO. Good work Putin, more enemies!
It would be interesting if Putin declared that any new country that joined NATO after their last promise would not be considered NATO members by Russia. Or if he says that only the ones having an Atlantic Ocean coast would be considered.
@@SolomonSunder Im Estonian and if that happens then well.....*chuckles* im in danger:)
As an Estonian I would like Estonia to be a neutral country because the West is getting too "liberal" and neomarxist for my taste. However, neutrality next to Russia = suicide. We were neutral before WW2 and the result was pure horror.
Maybe Putin is upset because Nato never invited him to join (it's an Hyperbole)... Peace for Ukraine!
The photographer is the "good" man who stays silent in the face of evil.
Ridiculous. The photographer is the man who let the world know what is happening, so everyone can decide for themselves where the evil is to be found.
@@johanmetreus1268 not "a photographer", he meant the spineless photographer guy from the video
@@MrBrownpotato Seeing demonstrations as "stage theater" and rather staying silent because that's better seems to be the general Russian attitude towards anything. "Better not say anything, that just gets you in trouble". That's how they end up with dictator after dictator in the first place. Those people will simply never learn. It's no coincidence that only young people growing up abroad are slowly changing, and it doesn't even work on all of them.
@@johanmetreus1268 are we talking about the same photographer that only takes pictures of old buildings, because he couldn't be bothered to choose a side?
I feel sad for people like Aleksander, so naive in their views and so cowardly to see with open eyes. They shut their eyes and don't want to see the truth which is about to hit them soon. If he thinks mother Russia will show any love for them they are so sadly mistaken.
He is regular russian. And you will see that such people will cause the same problem in Estonia as they did in Ukraine.
i'm not so sure how much of a problem such 'regular' people caused in eastern ukraine. crimea was a different story - russified to a much greater extent.
When Putin's bombs start falling, they will not ask each Estonian whether he supports Putin or not. They will just fall, and turn men, women, and children into puddles of gore- blood and guts. That's the reality of war, not Putin's "bloodless" "Special Military Operation."
They will certainly show more love than russophobic Estonians
@@krin8831Russians isn't the problem, Kremlin and Kremlin supporters are.
The person being interviewed at 3:39 is holding a flag representing the Votian people, a Finnic ethnic group that has almost disappeared through assimilation. According to Wikipedia, there were 4 living in Estonia in 2011, and 64 in Russia.
Is genetic mixing bad?
@@YaShoom Aren't Estonian ant votic people of the same ethnicity? Finno-urgic i belive
@@emilpersidski I don't understand, why did you write this?
@@YaShoom Because you talked about genetic mixing
@@YaShoomwhy are you trying to stir hate and controversy everywhere in this videos comments?
As a "russian" living in Estonia, I mostly fear Russian "libaralisation". We can survive high oil prices and ban on Russian products. Freedom and prosperity we have here is much more valuable. I hope Russia heals itself in some years, but till then: bye-bye!
And if Estonia was not in NATO you would welcome it 1940 style.
you can help by educating russian citizens that they are lied to instead of sitting around and waiting for things to get better.
@@chadgaston8615 tbh i kinda doubt estonia would let itself be handed over to russia again
@@chadgaston8615 But they are. So boohoo.
@@johannessiska2956 trust me. WE will not give away our country to Russia.
Aleksander just can’t shake his nostalgia for the Russian empire, even though it is lead by a tyrant with disregard for the life of children, women and family . By explaining his indifference he clearly shows which side he supports, without having to say it. Why not move back to the place you adore?
Because he doesn't want to live under a tyrant. He only wants other people to be subjected to the terror so he can be comfortable.
“The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.” - Albert Einstein
Its the same in Germany. The turks in Germany are voting for the dictator Erdogan, while a lot of people in turkey want more democracy. Just ridiculous!
He doesn't want to go empty handed back to Russia. Most likely wants a piece of Estonian land to take with him as gift to Putin. Just like the Russians in Ukraine.
agree!!
I totally agree !
Some of the Russian tanks where using flags of the former Soviet Union. That says a lot about their intentions imo...
Once a tankie, always a tankie
4:06 DW translated the elderly woman's statement as "I am against those who started it (the war)" but what she actually said was "I am against Putler".
yes and also she was ukrainian, not russian :)
@@TheOKCTEP Ye, she was definitely not speaking russian at the end.
Yap. Nice word play and mix of Putin+Hitler = Putler
@@TheOKCTEP Exactly she said 'viyna' which is clearly Ukrainian pronunciation instead of Russian language 'vaina'.
Russian population represents about 23% in Estonia, while Russian population represents only about 17% in Ukraine. In this scenario, Estonia looks vulnerable and extremely dangerous under Russian's pretext to protect "their people"..
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On the other hand Russians don't consider estonians to be their little brothers like they think of ukrainians.
@@s.a.3894 Agreed about estonians. They are not slavic people either - finnish ugrisc
language... culture
BUT if the little madman in Kremlin had been able to take Ukraine, I am afraid his will to attack all Baltic states sooner or later would have been there - be new targets .
I also can't really see Estonians fighting back as hard as Ukraine has.
@@hankherchiv8301
Except, if Estonia is attacked, they have the protection of NATO. It would be WWIII.
Ironically the same russian minorities supporting putka and his regime live in Europe, enjoy the freedom speech later on blatantly complain about the situation in Europe and sees putleristan as a liberator. My question is, why aren't you going back to your motherland, the great putkaland? Why do you stay in Europe if it's so awful here? For a fact I'm aware of the situation very well myself, I'm from Lithuania. We are having same issues here.
Same problem in the US. I tell them I'll pay for their one way ticket home and they change their tunes. Not even they buy the BS
Estonia is their homeland. The were born in there and need a visa to go to Russia. As everyone with EU passport.
@@MsThePrettiest Many have dual citizenship. Others can get Russian residency quite easily. Doesn't cost anything to move. If Russia is that wonderful, they can make a little effort to live in their dream country.
@@MsThePrettiest Putin has offered many chances for Baltic Russians to move. They never move, but they also don't learn local languages or respect the local people.. (I am from Latvia)
Because they came from a backwater dump, with no liberties, no autonomy, and no prospects.
i normally share his opinion on seeking sources in opposition, but the truth can be nowhere near what Russian state media claims
the most common comment I have seen Russians posting on social media is "There is no truth" or "We will never know the truth". The Kremlin has made their whole population either believe their lies, or believe that there are no truths and everything is subjective.....
Very true, but I still prefer to read myself what Kremlin actually say rather than having some reporter making a more or mostly less accurate summary.
The wars in Iraq and Yugoslavia taught me to never rely on a single source as media unfortunately are more concerned with speed of publication than getting things right.
trying to find middle ground between what the west say and what Russia say is not that easy right now, I will always morally support side that is being invaded and there is no common logic that would make me to pick other vise.
@@Donax695 Both sides are lying and withholding information , question is just how much and about what.
From what I've seen this far, Kremlin speaks truth only by accident, but it does happen now and then.
Common logic... say you found irrefutable evidence that Ukraine was engaging in genocide and ethnic cleansing in Donbas from 2012-2021, and pretend (hard as it is) that Russian troops did NOT commit war crimes on a routine basis, would you still be with the invaded country?
@@johanmetreus1268 My answer would stay the same, there would be do Donbas shitstorm, were not it for Russians supporting separatist tensions while completely denying it... all these flame on a behalf of who threw the first stone is kinda pointless now, this would be completely different topic if the conflict took place at some imaginary middle field but it is located in Ukraine not in Russia, Russia stating they are afraid and that is what triggered them to start this shitstorm is like me jumping the fence and killing my neighbor's dog because I am afraid of them.
Narva is an area in Estonia which has more russians than other places in Estonia so if they only interview Narva people, then they are gonna get more opinions that are supporting putin, but that doesn't mean the rest of the Estonia is the same
DW is not interested in appealing to the informed.
This is nothing against the Russian people, however, Russian's in Narva are not the same as Russian's in Russia. The city of Narva (GROSS) should not even be considered part of Estonia. Estonia is a gorgeous country, but the city of Narva is an armpit.
DW, as usual, gives one sided and INCOMPLETE info (and also unsubscribed me, again).
Narva, right on the Russian boarder, is probably 95% Russian. Rest of Estonia is about 27% Russian (thanks to Stalin). Good luck even finding someone who speaks Estonian in Narva.
Tthe Russian population in Estonia is not very integrated with the rest (not as bad as Narva). Notice the "Estonian" girl they interview is speaking Russian (to a DW German interviewer?). Choosing Narva to ask "Estonian's" about Russia is absurd and is done to appeal to the ignorant on this topic. Why not go to REAL Estonian cities such as Parnu, Tallinn, or Tartu (all are also easier to get to than Narva)? In those cities you would get a very good feel of what Estonian's international views are. Estonian's in Narva? DW Might as well interview people about California while in Tijuana (however, with their endless german gov $ funded promotion of open borders, circa 2015) they might just consider it a continent, rather than cities in different countries).
Putin: "I don't want NATO on my border!"
Putin the next day: "Imma annex this country so I'm directly sharing a border with NATO."
QuestionTo Everyone: As soon as Ukrainians put down weapons, war is over. Leave a comment below if you are A) pro ☮️ and want families alive OR you are B) pro war and deaths and want Ukraine fight until the last one of them is dead. Thanks
@@babblo1389 hello mr bot, you have joined Feb 21, 2022
@@babblo1389 question to you: as soon as russia goes home and putin fks himself war is over so.... how do you think putin will die? A. He k*lls himself B. Some mighty hero k*lls him. Both would be very welcome :)
@@hasdagger1916 I'd like to add option C: a mighty hero k*lls Putin AND all of his crew supporting the war
And does that imply all Russian speakers ought to be sent back to Mother Russia?
"they dont want to have to chose between east and west". This is okay until you get to the point of politics. Not choosing sides while one side is killing thousands of people is a luxurity, you shouldnt have.
But Estonia; you did chose the west with your EU and NATO> now deal
@@margotgorske6986 it was never a choice, if it weren't in NATO, putin would have annexed it 10 years ago already. Putin doesn't care about nato, you believe that "we have 2000 nukes but are still afraid" narrative? They dont have to fear anything, it's just greed and a way to direct attention away from colossal failure at home politics that Putin has created
West has killed thousands of peoples in MENA as well.
@@margotgorske6986 , does that mean Kremlin have no claims in support of the Russian minority?
@@margotgorske6986 That's right, the Russian people did not choose it, but they were not given the right to vote))
“The truth lies somewhere in the middle”.
So if a person told a woman is pregnant and another person said she isn’t, that means she is half pregnant?
There’s not such thing as the truth “lies in the middle” if someone is straight up lying to you.
this guy in the video with his little camera is a complete coward.
He is just being diplomatic so he isn't banned from Russia.
Special operation to liberate Donbas, just doing a tiny detour to Kiev, it's basically right around the corner just a little more than 500km.
How can someone really believe that this is about Donbas when some of the biggest attacks are happening over 500km away.
Everything here is better than in Russia. Better job been 3-4 times better payd, free open possibility for people, you can go everywhere you want and you can do and say what you thinking. Its a total propacanda what russia tells about baltic states. I am Estonian my self and i know much russian people and they are very good people in here. Russia always wants to make the view that here is everything so bad.
@@milomilo417 You are a bully, doing a bully's work.
@@PadraigTomas nag man he's a bot
Я сам из России, у меня друг со своей семьей был беженцем в 1991г из Эстонии. Сделали все, что бы Русские как можно быстрее покинули Эстонию. Думаю что если сделать опрос среди эстонцев с вопросом как вы относитесь к Русским, вы будете в основном называть нас окупантами, хотя во время СССР вы жили лучше всех из союзных республик. Надеюсь время изменилось и такого больше нет.
@@user-sl5is2ur6s why is it so that russians who are living in Estonia dont want to go Russia.... i tell you.. they are happy here.
@@noelkoppel943 Наверное по той же причине, что и Эстонцы живущие в России!
This idea of listening to extremes and finding truth somewhere in the middle is somewhat not universally a good idea. If one side claimed the earth is round and the other side claims its flat, how can the truth be in the middle?
There is a difference between objective facts (is Ukraine a country in its own right?), and varying opinions based on different interpretations of an accepted body of facts (do Russian speakers in the Donetsk and Crimea regions need to be integrated into Ukrainian society, or should they be allowed autonomy or self-determination?). The difficulty arises when a protagonist knowingly disinforms for its own purposes, and conceals the facts from all except those determined to learn them (Russians are liberating Ukrainians and are welcomed by them).
@@ilokivi remember that back in those days the church prosecuted people presenting facts!
@@artiefakt4402 i was just trying to point out that facts were and are denounced as 'opinions' by people who didn't or don't like the facts they are presented with.
@@robertw5052 I totally agree, but those people enjoy twisting reality to make it look like they are right.
The sad thing is, some naïve people (to put it nicely) are buying it... even when they're lucky enough to have access to information.
@@artiefakt4402 you are absolutely right! Since trump those truth twisters even dare to invent 'alternative facts'!
"The truth lies somewhere in the middle" (of the Russian and non-Russian versions). I think in this case the truth is way, way far away from the official Russian version.
the most common comment I have seen Russians posting on social media is "There is no truth" or "We will never know the truth". The Kremlin has made their whole population either believe their lies, or believe that there are no truths and everything is subjective.....
@@julia_juliapesto......"Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible"
Despite western media are often manipulated, No-one coming from soviet nations could teach us what is the truth.
ALL Scandinavians are so proud of how the Baltic states have pulled themselves up by the hair after they became free nations again. Let´s all hope and fight for that Ukraine can keep being an independent democratic nation where it´s own population solely decides the future of their nation! Long live a free Ukraine!
Let us all also hope that one day even the Russian people gets to be free citizens in a free democratic nation where basic human rights are for all, where Russians can read free media, say what they want and where no one kills of political opponents with poison. FREE Russia from evil dictator POOtin!
If you have some hope in Russia to ever be democracy, well I have bad news for you. It’s determined by Russia’s geography that it would always keep trying to expand the borders. And if you don’t believe in geographical determinism in any form, please checkout polls results of Russian people about their attitude towards the current situation in Ukraine. Most of them support it.
Most of the people denying to as answer the questions because they are afraid :-(
@@annad3687 maybe the exact percentage of people supporting the thing is questionable but, you can approximate it very easily. The main line of separation is between the old and the young generations. So, given that in Russia older generations are the demographic majority makes it clear that youth won't be able to outvote it in any poll with fair representation. And since this opinion dominates it would keep being institutional almost perpetually since it won't be facing any significant opposition.
WOW!! Some Russians people who live outside of Russia still believe Putin’ lies..
We stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦
a lot do. Majority in my experience...
Every decent human stands with Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@Alexey You are completely right, just to clarify, this is Narva the most pro Russian place, probably in all of the Baltics, and as you can see, not much support for Russia right now, good.
I cannot imagine what Ukrainians are going through right now
Watch and share "Winter on Fire" on Netflix. This will give you a small glimpse.
HeLpLiNe 💬🖕🖕
the same as iraq's did 20 years ago
@@martinwhitney4351 Or the Afgans did in the 80's when Russia killed 2million of them.
you should ask people of Serbia, they will tell you
'The demonstrations seem like theatre to me'
Spoken like a true Russian
Precisely....WEAK AF. Iranian women have bigger balls than Russian men !
In this conflict saying the truth lies somewere in the middle is like saying: the earth is not a perfect globe nor perfectly flat, it's something in the middle. It's good to look at different sources but quantity of information is not the same as quality (credability) of information. Jail time for even saying it's a war is 15 years in Russia, free media is not allowed, how can you possible give even a tiny bit of credibablity for information coming out of Russia?
Um I love and get what you’re saying but you should use a different analogy. The earth is a sphere but it is in fact not a perfect sphere. It actually looks like a lumpy roundish potato with some flatness up at the poles.
Die Wahrheit ist, dass der moskowiter Alptraum im Osten gar nicht mehr existieren sollte! Wir Deutschen haben zweimal versucht dort drüben aufzuräumen und diesen A***** zu entfernen. In beiden Fällen ist der Westen uns in den Rücken gefallen. Die naive Sicht des Westens auf Russland ist schon erstaunlich.
@ - Aylin Acosta is at least kind if not completely right.
Earth's circumference around the equator is bigger than over/around the poles. I wouldn't call it a "lumpish potato" but if you take all the mountains, mountain chains, valleys and the fluid behavior off water in regards to changing gravity (moon and centripetal force) into account.... well Earth is definitely not a perfectly round sphere.
@@L1m3r well it's definitely not a shape of M&M's, which is what's in the middle of sphere and flat :) non russian media aren't perfect, but they are infinitely better at being closer to the truth, much like Earth is much more of a spheres than it is flat. The truth in Russian media only exists in moments when someone slips and accidentally says what's on their mind instead of what they're expected to.
Anyone supporting Putin should be told: take this cash and move to Russia.
Maybe those Russian in Estonia should go live in Russia if they support Putin. Move there to support him.
Naah. They like those democratic freedoms and rights that they get in Estonia! They would prefer to be like arabs in Europe.
@@GreatRetro You guys get it.
100% agreed
They never will. They take the benefits and try to ruin the society with their primitive values.
Many Russians were born in Estonia. And they spend their whole life listening to the authorities call them enemies. The news constantly writes about bad Russians. Russians in Estonia really want to be Estonians, but it’s not good for local politicians. So don’t be surprised that Russians can’t choose sides.
I am russian from Estonia and was born here before USSR fall. My mother's parents moved here from Russian and went to Ukraine, my mother stayed here. It was all in Soviet Union. I was visiting Marioupol a lot at summer when I was child and even stayed here for 3 years and studied in school for family reasons.
I like Ukraine, their people and language. Mix of Ukrainian and Russian language sound very funny and awesome.
Last time i was here 19 years ago. I wished to visit this town again but now It's all ruined. I am against the war and wish it will end soon. I wish Russian governent should be changed and same people should not stay for too long here.
@@useruser57263 that seems a bit racist from you, lol...
@@Danipiz666 How is it racist when Estonians, Russians and Ukrainians belong into the same race?
ukrainian will hate russian nation forever
if one is lying and one is telling the truth how can the truth lies somewhere in the middle? you'll always fail with this policy. it is hard to sympathize with such wilful ignorance.
It is taught in Russia. the most common comment I have seen Russians posting on social media is "There is no truth" or "We will never know the truth". The Kremlin has made their whole population either believe their lies, or believe that there are no truths and everything is subjective.....
It's called "bothsidesism", a lazy excuse for not thinking.
@@julia_juliapesto...... what an awful way to live. sad.
Truth lays somewhere in between, not in the middle. Small, but important distinction that sadly has gotten lost.
It depends on the speaker. If they are lying (or repeating lies) then they ask to seek the truth closer to their lie, i.e. in the middle. The one telling the truth would never say such nonsense
Estonia is truly on the front lines and tip of the spear when it comes to Europe's defense. The NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence (CCD COE) is located in Tallinn and NATO's annual cyber defense exercises are run from there. Estonia takes their membership seriously and for good reason considering the long Russian/Soviet imperialist history.
Thank you to you from an Estonian. 🇪🇪🤍
I would have thought Lithuania is in the cross hairs as a route to Kaliningrad and the Baltic Sea.
@@bobblue_west Baltic States have a common name for a reason. If Lithuania falls, Latvia and Estonia follows..
Yeah but just enjoy life before the Cyber attack knock out your banks, I mean Covid19 didn't do as much. You're talking a country with no money ... you know? NO MONEY!!!
And before that they were under the Swedish Empire. And before that (and during) the Germanic nobility basically dominated Estonia using them as second class citizens (or outright serfs), establishing German as the official language. Estonia over the last so many decades has experienced the closest sense of independent nationality they have for many centuries. I am not surprised they are serious about it.
The photographer is naive. “Say nothing and do nothing and the tyrants take over” - Brian Sounalath
He isn't naive, he supports putin's policy but doesn't say it openly. It's a common approach among the the Russian people who realize the consequences of the open support such a policy. The most common phrase among them in such situations "let's talk without politics", but in the same time they eagerly discusses other wars and blaming other countries.
When I was in Tallinn Estonia several years ago, an Estonian told me that everyone he knew had family members that were arrested and imprisoned in the Soviet Union during the Soviet years. No one he knew wanted anything to do with Russia today under the current circumstances. He likes everyone he knows of Russian descent, but.......
@aswer huio lol
@aswer huio no
Doesn't it work for russian part as well? A lot of family my members were arrested as well, some died when travelled to the north (because of the government orders). And Stalin was Georgian btw
@@MssSima For some reason some Russians still defend communists and don't want to judge Soviet era crimes against humanity. When bolscheviks took power they imprisoned millions of Russians without fair trials. Still they wave flags of Stalin, who killed, imprisoned or deported much more people than Third Reich. For some I think is the slave mentality who just doesn't know and doesn't care living a life on their own but somehow want a master or a ruler to tell them what to do, how to think. Too bad the communists killed almost all intelligent and forward thinking people in Russia who could steer this nation and it's gene pool to a better future.
@@MssSima до них не доходит сам факт того что и в России людей расстреливали и в ГУЛАГ ссылали🙄
The Russians in Estonia, as well as the other Baltic States, are there because of the military occupation of those countries by the Soviet Union. Many of these Russians have made no effort to learn the baltic languages or otherwise meet the standard requirements for citizenship. Instead, they spend their time screaming about their “rights” which they invent to suit their immediate purpose. Since they make no effort to qualify to participate in the governance of the country, what they think about Russia in Ukraine, or anything else, is irrelevant. If they don’t like the arrangement they helped create Mother Russia awaits their return.
@John Purins lol, you have a small brain. The Baltics should be next. NATO can't guarantee anything.
If ever Russia & NATO clashes, it will be Nuclear war. Do you really think France or Germany will be willing to engage in a nuclear fight over the Baltics?
I don't think France or Germany will be willing to engage in a nuclear fight over the Baltics. They are practical, they are just loud mouths but they wanna live, they will rather cut off their losses so cut off the Baltics.
NATO is just a moneymaking scheme to force the European vassals to buy American arms. Don't you know the stocks of General Dynamics & Raytheon are skyrocketing now?
The European governments are already allocating billions to buy arms & they are not going to buy from anywhere but from the US only.
There are only 2 stocks earning double now: energy & military supplies. The Russians are earning big in the energy sector but the Americans are dancing "Happy Days are Here Again" for the hundreds of billions the American military industrial complex (MIC) is getting from their European vassals. This may not happen again until the Baltics are snatched.
So use your head for once: buy stocks of Anerican arm companies & you'll get rich. You might grow some brain yet
@@milomilo417 So when will it stop? Putin rules everything but China and USA? Your delusions only.
@@chadgaston8615 Sorry, comment below was not intended for you.
You are clearly not a very intelligent person and a war monger as well.
The same argument Putin used for eastern Ukraine can be used in Estonia one day. Putin could want to liberate the Russian in Estonia who were supposed being repressed...
The same lie, you mean...
by the time that happens, the whole world will be f-ed up
@@chootanf The whole world doesn't care. Several countries support Russia, the West supports Ukraine and others are indifferent as they have their own internal problems to deal with.
@@guardianoffire8814 thats not what i mean, estonia is a member of NATO. If Russia invades Estonia, then whole NATO soldiers will be deployed there, technically increasing the risk of nuclear warfare which will generate nuclear winter as we know it.. whether you grow indifferent or not, it doesn't matter, it WILL affect everyone
strech the "principle" far enough and you could use it in NE Philadelphia. Anyways Putins argument is racist at its core. Apparently Russia is just a super large tribe with nukes.
Russia is bullying countries around it. Russia just go and gut off a piece of land belong to a country and claim it. That is ridiculous. Ukraine is rightfully protected itself from this bullying. Ukraine should joint NATO for protection, not to come to this situation.
@@milomilo417 Are you a psychopath, or just a troll
@DJP36 I know what to do for immediate peace. .
The Russians should imitate what the Americans did during WWII when they nuclear bombed medium-sized cities to bring the Japanese to their senses. But instead of using nuclear bombs, Russia should use thermobaric bombs. Russia has FOAB, the most powerful in the world. These should bring the Ukrainians fast to their senses, so in the end, less blood is shed.
I suggest, pulverize with thermobaric bombs:
1. Lvov
2. Dnipro
The Americans will jump with glee. The Europeans would panic so much they will buy more arms from the Americans.
The Americans are wracking it big, their stocks at the New York Stock Exchange are shooting to high heaven's now. Imagine, how those stocks will shoot up some more when the Thermobaric bombs started exploding.
BTW hurry buy stocks for Raytheon, General Dynamics, etc. This opportunity may not come again unless Russia gets the Baltics
The European governments are already allocating billions to buy arms & they are not going to buy from anywhere but from the US only.
There are only 2 stocks earning double now: energy & military supplies. The Russians are earning big in the energy sector but the Americans are dancing "Happy Days are Here Again" for the hundreds of billions the American military industrial complex (MIC) is getting from their European vassals.
This may not happen again until the Baltics are snatched.
So borrow money & buy. BUY.
Just thank me later
Guys, this is weird, Milo Milo comment was deleted, I see the same with other Russian supporter, most of their fanatical comment deleted, why?
Putin lies. The west have no biolabs to use against anyone. Soldiers are killing civilians. Why else would Russia lose news outlets. Russia makes laws to suppress fredom
@@paivyt. Could be both...
Couple of years ago a friend of mine was visiting the city of Vyborg on the Karelian Isthmus which the Soviet Union captured from Finland during World War II. When talking about the town's history, the Russian city guide drew a circle in the air with his hand and said: "It all used to belong to Finland until we LIBERATED it". I can see that this type of narrative still hasn't lost its charm...
Oh don't worry. We know all too well how they really feel.
My Finnish mom lived in Vyborg and had to leave her home at age of 6. She and my grandma were evacuated from and had move away to safer regions in Finland . The town was compeletely Finnish before Soviet Union "liberated" it. Now it is a part of Russia. Same thing is really happening in Ukraine now but the difference is that Ukraine has never even tried to invade Russian territory. We fighted back against Russia and Finnish troops went over the old borderline and were pretty close to Saint Petersburg in certain point of WW2.
@@boatshallow I’ve heard that even Saint Petersburg was once a Finnish village or town. As Finnish person with a deeper knowledge of Finnish history, can you confirm that? Russians say that it’s not true, and the Tzar decided to build the city from scratch.
@@nis4953 Tzar build it from scratch, that was never part of old Finland.
@@ara7057 Well, I’ve managed to find out that there were several villages (Inkere, Vihtulan) populated by Finns and a Swedish city - Nyen (since 1611), so that doesn’t count as “from scratch”. I’m not talking about an ownership of the territory (which was Swedish back then, by the way) I’m talking about who lived there and it appears that there were a lot of Finnish people out there.
If you want to go to Russia and not stay in Estonia, there it is. Cross the river. See you later!
Peace to all Estonians! Sending love from the Philippines!
Stop letting duterte give Philippine islands to China.
Thank you
Putin is the most popular world leader here in the Philippines. Filipinos adore him, more now
@@godogs89 what island? Which one? The shoal lost was under previous admin by pnoy. The mutual defense treaty Ph have with US was pointless.
What happened to Estonians ... Please let me know
I’m younger generations too. Putin’s old. We peace now. Nobody deserve this. Not even Ukraine. Slava Ukraine.
Putin = МКБ-10 F60.0
It's not that Putin's old, it is that he clings to old ideas from the past, he doesn't need to do this, he's destroyed the little work he has done.
As soon as Ukrainians put down weapons, war is over. Leave a comment below if you are pro ☮️ and want families alive OR you are pro war and deaths and want Ukraine fight until the last one of them is dead. Thanks
@@babblo1389 Russian propagandist. As soon as you Russians put down your weapons , the war is over. You are the aggressor, invading a democratic nation that's not yours.Period.
@@babblo1389 1. Ukrainians are resolved not to stop fighting. 2. Putin is creating a second Afghanistan right next to Russia 3. Even if the Ukrainians lay down their weapons the west won't lay down their sanctions, which already hit hard. 4. The only chance of Putin is becoming the junior partner of China. 5. The price of an occupation of Ukraine will stand in no relation to the costs.
I have got a good advice to the Russians in Estonia: Learn the Estonian language! It is not easy, I know, but it is clearly possible.
By the way: We use to call Putin "Putler", a combination of "Putin" and "Hilter".
@grau wolf Russian will be the language In Estonia again. The Baltics should be next. NATO can't guarantee anything.
If ever Russia & NATO clashes, it will be Nuclear war. Do you really think France or Germany will be willing to engage in a nuclear fight over the Baltics?
I don't think France or Germany will be willing to engage in a nuclear fight over the Baltics. They are practical, they are just loud mouths but they wanna live, they will rather cut off their losses so cut off the Baltics.
NATO is just a moneymaking scheme to force the European vassals to buy American arms. Don't you know the stocks of General Dynamics & Raytheon are skyrocketing now?
The European governments are already allocating billions to buy arms & they are not going to buy from anywhere but from the US only.
There are only 2 stocks earning double now: energy & military supplies. The Russians are earning big in the energy sector but the Americans are dancing "Happy Days are Here Again" for the hundreds of billions the American military industrial complex (MIC) is getting from their European vassals. This may not happen again until the Baltics are snatched.
So use your head for once: buy stocks of Anerican arm companies & you'll get rich. You might grow some brain yet
@@milomilo417 If nuclear weapons are used on a NATO member, they will be used on the sender too. None of your conspiracy theories will change the rules of Nato.
@@milomilo417 "Russian will be the language in Estonia again", "The baltics should be next", those sentences tell enough about your delusional fantasies.
I live in Russia. My opinion is that when somebody says, that everything is not so definite and there might be different points of view on this war, I am ready to accept this position ONLY as a kind of psychological protection of a person, who is not ready to accept the sad truth. For exapmle my mother thinks so. I take it as OK, but I believe, that some time later everyone will see the obvious. Sooner or later. Everyone has his/her own pace to accept it safely and not to go nuts. There is so much logical collisions in this Russian image of this war that it can not be another - but every day it becomes too late.
I'm affraid this will impact our good name as a people as well as my personal good name and good will. Putin has turned our passports into a dust.
Спасибо за Вашу позицию 🤍
God bless you and may your family come to the truth sooner rather than later. Thank you for being a beacon of light for your people and country
Главное помнить, что мы далеко не одиноки в этой стране. Спасибо, что ещё раз это напомнил.
I pray for Ukraine 🇺🇦
@Ctg ♥️🇺🇦♥️
You are nothing but another disguesting Russian troll in disguise - playing one of your distration - blame usa-cards.
To no use, you are loosing. And before you get rid of the little madman in Klemlin, Russia and Russians will be poorer and more isolated day by day.
You are turning into the new europeian paria. Excused from sports, culture, student excange etc.etc
Send money
And ammos
Xi Jinping 🇨🇳 is Putin's backer. China is evil 😈
Pray for everyone involved.
@Ctg troll
imagine the people of Russia's surprise when they realize they've only got a few minutes to live..Putin's gone take everyone down with him..literally, everyone.
@@elyrexo
Watch and share "Winter on Fire" on Netflix. Gives glimpse of the real depth of Putin's meddling going back way beyond 2014 by trying to get his mate in power there. The people saw and fought that off. This is just the latest attempt.
@Ctg They ignore US/NATO aggressions, they only follow media.
@@BluEclipse94 stop using the word NATO, you are using it wrong.
@Ctg Whataboutism, I can make the same list about Russia/Soviet union. What has US to do with Russia attacking Ukraine? Why bring US in to this? Is it because you are a troll? Yeah, thought so!!!
@@Itsudemo1 Because clearly Russian men cannot be made responsible for their actions. Always somebody else is at fault. Like little kids.
I'm glad Estonians achieved independence after Soviet Union collapsed. Today, with Putin it wouldn't be possible.
1:53 mark Bizarre remark under the circumstance. How does he explain the devastation and continuous bombardment of civilians all over Ukraine, the exodus and the barbaric, draconian assault on an independent country?
Same dog, different collars. I am afraid that from these days onwards, I can only feel the deepest contempt towards them. Also, I agree with what the Ukrainians call them
The Estonian Foreign minister speaks better English than the British Prime Minister.
HeLpLiNe ❤🖕🖕
But Boris is more flamboyant.
he is not the foreign minister but the secretary general or whathever they call him in english (actual translation would be chancellor). basically the head of officials, a non-political public servant.
"The demonstrations feel like theatre productions."
Yeah, 500 000 anti-war demonstrators in Berlin is theatre. Logic.
Anyone else thinks it's cool that the NATO-Russia border is two medieval fortresses facing each other? Something very Monty Pythonesque about it.
both medieval fortresses should belong to estonia, other side area is jaanilinna and it should be part of estonia same with Petseri
I have been told by Estonians and others from surrounding countries, that many Russians, especially the older ones, enjoy taking advantage of higher earnings in their country and a much better quality of life, but don't even bother learning the local language. Some people from Estonia, etc, get told off by them for not speaking Russian! Some Russians open food stores, etc, that service just the Russian community only, and just have no need to speak the local language. Those ones will all be rooting for Russia in this war.
The government should deport them.
Russians in Estonia are doing better than Russians in Russia. That is the way to not make them want Putins "help"....
I think today Estonia, Latvia etc are doing this well. It was bad in the 1990s with "language laws" etc but now should be fine excet for the old Russian people from Soviet times.
Those language laws were made excectly with sth like the ukrain situation in mind.
keep in mind that Russia wanted replace all of the languages in Soviet Union with russian. You can clearly see the effects of that in Belarus where there is estimate that only 20% or less speaks Belarusan. Same situation was in Ukraine in the 90s where I believe was below/around 40%. Ukrainians changing the law after 90s were able to increase the ukrainian speaking population up to 67%. Russians never valued any other nations or cultures it consumed. Same time played victim all the time that russian are suppressed.
In Soviet times, in Latvia and Lithuania, only Russian speakers were permitted to work in government jobs. Many refused to learn the Baltic languages, and so when someone went to see about getting the road fixed, or pay the public-housing rent, they were told to speak Russian, not “animal language”. Why blame Estonians for requiring immigrants to speak Estonian? It is good that they have relaxed it, but it is fair anyway. Does the US require Spanish to be equal with English? Is any native American language given parity with English in the US?
@@NottinghamForest24 ...and the Saskaņa leader was caught in a lie: in a later election he claimed to have voted against the 2nd language, while claiming he had at the time of referendum.
@@NottinghamForest24 you can leave for russia, there everybody speaks russian and you'll be happy. Lativians would applaud such a descision too, I guess
For a “photographer” to be so blind has to be the greatest oxymoron of this entire debacle. Get a new HD camera with astronomical zoom, ffs.
"The truth lies somewhere in the middle" is such a bone-headed idea. If a man comes home drunk and beats his wife, the truth is that he abused her and the truth is he is a monster for doing so. There is no truth to be found in the middle.
Mr. Kluchenkov, the truth does not lie in the middle, it lies where it lies.
May peace be with Estonia. Noone wins in a war
HeLpLiNe 💬🖕🖕
War is most profitable ever beside, drug and sex trafficking
They may be winner, But the losses and devastation will be on both side.
@@emerald1059 America is good at creating wars without going there. 😃🍿
@@emerald1059 Both the west and the east are at fault. If only both sides could come to terms that we should work together for the better but for some reason people always seek their source for hatred. Sadly everything in the west isnt as transparent as people think and probably same goes for the east. :/
These Russians in Estonia are very uninformed. Western media is not perfect, but at least following some journalistic practices instead of parroting everything the government says does not get you imprisoned or assassinated in the West.
They want to live in Estonia because life there is better than in Russia, yet they do not appear to support the principles that makes life there better; i.e. democracy, press freedom, toleration etc.
what? it is significant that a society that calls itself tolerant is slipping into stereotypical generalizing accusations against Russians in a certain critical situation. Cases of Russophobia have become more frequent over innocent people and children who have been living in the EU for a long time and paying taxes
@@mikhailova.kabachok Another Kremlin apologist. How many children did you kill today????
@@mikhailova.kabachok tell that to all the people and children who died in UA from the shellings.
@@skuyzy198 the US gets away with everything as a global hegemon. it's going to end soon. china rubs pens
They are been living there since the creation of the country lol
> press freedom
You should remove that, most russian sourses have been banned in the west, and on youtube, to state that our countries are any better when it comes to proess freedoms, i don't think so
Estonia 🇪🇪 Latvia 🇱🇻 Lithuania 🇱🇹
I legit started crying when the image of “I 🇺🇦💙 ☮️ “ came up.
People of Estonia, you are seen and heard in the West.
Estonia is the part of the West, Estonian culture is a western culture.
Call for moderation fallacy: assuming the correct answer is always somewhere in the middle ground.
It may in fact be somewhere in between the two sides but it may in fact be that 1 side is the only one being truthful.
Yeah, I think we should cut out Putin's heart. So let's be moderate and only cut out half his heart.
This is not the case - the arguments can be found on two sides, and this argument is mirror-like: "Every country is fighting for the safety of its people." It’s just that Russia has more resources and was lucky, and Ukraine acted stupidly, knowing that Russia is such a strong adversary, starting to flirt with NATO and threaten it (and also bombing the Donbass for 8 years, instead of peacefully listening to the demands of the people who did not recognize the current junta of Ukraine ).
Most often not 100% though.
@@YaShoom oh, you talk like a RuZZian!!!! You know what Ukrainians call you? They are so accurate. Keep your brutal arrogance up your…..
No, that's not how the truth works. There are no sides to everything and sometimes someone is factually wrong.
Well said.
It must be weird to live in a small democracy and hear other inhabitants praise the brutal dictatorship of Russia on the other side of the border.
Ukraine a democracy? That's some statement. I am against the war, though
@@kirillz3822 They've had elections, you know. The loser was disappointed, but acknowledged the result. Now he's fighting for his country. Had it been Russia, he would have been poisoned by now.
@@kirillz3822 I think referred to Estonia as the small democracy.
@@ThePixiey Yeah, right. My baf. But did 2020-2021 not show us that there are no democracies?
@@kirillzotin1983 I'm not entirely sure what you mean but yes - there are certainly countries out there where there's not an once of democracy, and in this case that country is Russia.
I love Estonia. It's well worth your time to go visit. (from an American)
It doesn't matter what Russians think. It matters what Ukrainians think. The arrogance of Russians. I would say the fact Ukraine is fighting so hard should be telling Russians something. It won't end well whatever happens
It's 🇨🇳 China's fault!
Where are sanctions on Xi Jinping and his daughter?
you dont know what your talking about
It matters what everyone thinks . Your attitude is the root of the problem,
behave like a guest or go away, something RUSSIANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND
It matters what Russians think because Putin can be only removed by Russians.
Respect to the people of Ukraine. Support from Romania 🇷🇴
the girl who says that she si "very shocked" is basically all my russian friends..... I live in Tallinn and in here russian people hate this war , they just vcant even believe that this is happening
Is it for real? Cos I'm really depressed by the share of Russians who believe in Russian oppressions in Ukraine or who don't perceive the scale of civil infrastructure destruction.
Is there version with subtitles? Just want to hear opinion through his voice and not voice over
SADLY Vladimir Putin does not understand that the solution to all this is PEACEFULL COEXISTENCE! for the benefit of the people and human rights!
HeLpLiNe ❤🖕🖕
What you do not understand is that is not Vladimir Putin's solution. It never was. He is KGB, and always will be. The KGB do not have peaceful solutions.
what you want he is a moskovite and a descendant of the mongol,he had conquer and once again conquer what has once been conquered
@@josephnebeker7976 I know this and it is also common knowledge that Putin and his government is built on countless lies and deceit for decades. The whole russian empire is kept together on basis of lies. SAD part is that millions of russian citizens believe all that they are told! The biggest brainwash in history ! Still the best solution would be the one I suggested ! I can ony hope that some day the russian Federation will have a humane leader for the good of the world! Western Europe is living in peacefull coexistence with great success.
he understand, but want to push his own narrative
Stay strong Ukraine 🇺🇦❤️
HeLpLiNe ❤🖕🖕
Xi Jinping 🇨🇳 is Putin's backer. China is evil 😈
@@lastChang k?
Glory to Ukraine ✊
Glory belongs to God only. Why are Ukrainians beating foreign students??
The truth is not in the middle. The truth is where it is.
Why nobody wants to join Russia’s camp? Look at Eastern Europe countries, they were forced to join, but when they had a chance they just walked away.
1:46
"Argument to moderation (Latin: argumentum ad temperantiam)-also known as false compromise, argument from middle ground, and the golden mean fallacy-is the fallacy that the truth is supposedly always a compromise between two opposing positions."
HeLpLiNe ❤🖕🖕
Not at all. Putin sometimes tells a little truth, Zelansky sometimes tells a little lie.
@@johanmetreus1268 Exactly, so Putin is worse.
@@rod9829 Far worse if you ask me, but the truth is still *somewhere* between them... like one step from Zelensky and a mile from Putin lol
@@johanmetreus1268 refer to original comment.
Gosh he is a photographer go to Ukraine and take some pictures perhaps then you will become in-lightened, but then ignorance is bliss.
Hi Warren how are you doing .
@@georgeflynn7529 I am privileged to be much better off than the Ukrainian's.
@@warrengrant Nice to hear Warren. Where do you live. I'm in Virginia
Hey Warren, go search youtube for Patrick Lancaster, Anne-Laure Bonnel, they're in ukraine3 andh ave been since 2015, they have plenty of pictures and videos. Mayne you'll learn something new.
I've been to Tallinn, Estonia. It was absolutely charming and the Estonian people were great. I'm praying constantly that this madness ends as soon as possible. I hope the people of Russia rise up against that monster Putin! He can't put millions of you in jail - be brave like the Ukrainians and get rid of him! We all deserve to live in peace!
"He can't put millions of you in jail"
His predessors did exactly that. Some huge fraction of Estonia (1/3?) were deported to Siberia post WW2 by Stalin.
Millions were sent to the gulags inside Russia. In Ukraine I believe most of the Tartars were liquidated post WW2 - they were mostly from the Donbas.
It's been shown a number of times using scientific methods that praying has absolutely no positive effect on anything. Please wake up.
If you look at Russian history, each time the people "rise up" they still end up with an authoritarian government. They have been this way for 1,000 years.
This is the western 'justice': they deliberately ignore the situation in multiple war-torn nations like Cyprus, Iraq, Syria, Israel-Palestine, Afghanistan. But now that Russia attacks Ukraine, everyone in the West claims to stand by the Ukrainians' side. And you think that you losers are fair.
I hope Putin will put an end to that cursed western imperialism.
The West will pay for all its crimes one day...
@@Josef-EU 🙄 edgy atheist kid type beat
He's right to say you need to get your information from a wide range of sources.
Putin and russia is to blame, only.
@Ctg whataboutism
@Ctg Russian bots
Watch and share "Winter on Fire" on Netflix. Putin and his trolls will really hate for you to see a small glimpse of the real depth of his meddling and how long it's being going on. The Ukrainian people have beat him in 2014 and they'll do it again now.
@@jia2001 Ah yes, when someone speaks out about nato/us attacks and genocide its a bot, when Russia defends its borders and people its omfg.
Lack of education, media sheep that's what you're
Be realistic giff your soul his freedom back,in a war there are more than 1 that didt not good.
I believe that Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia, Uzbekistan, and all the neighbours of Rusia who want to be really free and independent from Rusia, and stop Russian interference in their countries, should use the opportunity of the war in Ukraine, and take a united action to disarm Rusia, so that it has no more power to bully and abuse its neighbours as it wishes. But there must be unity; otherwise, if each country fights its own war with Russia, the chance for success would be greatly reduced.
Exactly
I guess that should be done after NATO has been dismantled towards the US
lol, you think that countries that join NATO are free? lmao
@@jefferyd.rodriguez638 yeah mate, atleast russian allies get to be sovereign Nations as long as they are not a threat to Russia, unlike the US
@@jefferyd.rodriguez638 Name one that isn't.
3:46 - this woman is waving the Votian flag :))))) Votians are closely related to Estonians but the language is only spoken by a few dozens of people :)))
I recently learned that attending a demonstration is important because it creates a memory in the minds of the attendees that they cared enough about an issue to show up. That can be the basis for further, more direct action.
If I were a non-NATO country anywhere NEAR Russia, I would certainly start filling out my NATO application NOW, and quickly!
With the notable exception of Serbia, there isn't a single country that was once under Soviet domination which hasn't, upon regaining its independence and rebuilding its democratic institutions, applied for NATO membership. Fourteen have been admitted so far, several more are hoping to join.
Ukrain wanted to join NATO a long time ago. Unfortunately, their pro Russian president in 2014 said that they wont be shifting towards joining NATO, but will instead be getting closer to Russia. So, in 2014 the whole protest and initial war with Russia started. This whole conflict is because Russia wants Ukraine but Ukraine does not want Russia. They want NATO.
Sweden and Finland probably won't join still
@@hencytjoe You may be right, recently Russia flew a plane equipped with nuclear missiles near Sweden as a warning.
Just a little correction (possibly):
” Security expert Johan Wiktorin is very skeptical of this information:
“Su-24 is admittedly designed to carry tactical nuclear weapons, but in the form of bombs. So they have to fly to a destination. The formation with escorting Su-27 that was described in connection with the (airspace) violation also speaks against behavior that one should have with such a load,” he wrote on Twitter.
A friend of mine gave me a tip on how to reach into Russia with accurate information: You can go to rating websites for restaurants, hotels, shops and such. Give then a five star rating, and write something like "The food was good, but Russias illegal and inhumane war on Ukraine gave it a very, very bitter taste."
@@milomilo417 Are you mad?
BTW hurry buy stocks for Raytheon, General Dynamics, etc. This opportunity may not come again unless Russia gets the Baltics
@Stephanie Hills Have you bought stocks already? Do it fast. The Europeans governments are already allocating billions to buy arms & they are not going to buy from anywhere but from the US only. There are only 2 stocks earning double now: energy & military supplies. The Russians are earning big in the energy sector but the Americans are dancing "Happy Days are Here Again" for the hundreds of billions the American military industrial complex (MIC) is getting from their European vassals.
This may not happen again until the Baltics are snatched.
So borrow money & buy. BUY.
Just thank me later
Great idea!
Thank you from Ukraine!!!!
I love the Estonian flag. It's beautiful
An Attack on Estonia will provoke a full scale response from NATO as per Treaty obligations. With the Russian Army exposed as a less than world-class fighting force and already depleted by their WAR in Ukraine, aggression against the Baltic nations would be disastrous for Russia.
The Finns beat Russia back all on their own. But now even Finland is seriously considering joining NATO out of fear of an insane Russia.