mobo PCB Breakdown: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Pro // The GOTO Overclocking board
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There is something so soothing and satisfying about “Hey guuuuuys, build Zoid here.” 😁
it's like mac and cheese, you just got a huge plate and you don't know if you can finish it, feels like home
same with his videos, you don't know if your brain can make it to the end but you are still gonna do that
AND THE VIDEO IS BACK.
turns out that when I was rechecking my notes I was doing the VRM calculations with 1V output but using the 1.2V performance curves which lead to me thinking the notes are wrong. The notes were actually mostly fine.
I say mostly fine because I did somehow miss the fact the ISL99390 is SPS + indcutor losses not just SPS losses(which makes sense as isolating the inductor losses is really difficult).
first.
Hey bz did gigabyte send you a 690 tachyon?
@@iceblade019 should be coming soon
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Can't wait for gigabyte's master and ultra pcb breakdowns. Also Asus line. Just for viewing pleasure, if I were to buy one, this would prob be it.
@@LedNe0nDevil I don't have an Ultra or any ASUS boards
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking But you always do them with tomshardware pcb photos right? RIGHT? :o
I love your pcb breakdowns
So it looks like Gigabyte designed the VRM to just the right size, 200A@1.2V is 240W, basically a stock 12900k.
The VRM is hitting peak efficiency.
Is it good or limit 12900k performance? I read it's not good mobo with ddr5.
The rear io on this is actually great. 12 USB ports ftw
*S/PDIF* = Sony/Philips Digital Interface. It uses one or both of these connectors (on motherboards, usually Optical only). Usually there's only Out, sometimes both In & Out:
* Optical (TOSLINK)
* Coaxial (1 x RCA with an orange ring)
S/PDIF was developed for CD-players, then utilized with DVD-players etc. That's where *~1.4 Mbps* maximum bandwidth comes. Which is enough for:
* CD-Audio (PCM 2.0 16b/44.1kHz)
* Dolby Digital 5.1, Dolby Digital EX
* DTS 5.1, DTS-ES, DTS 96/24
* MP3 etc.
So, these are absolutely impossible via S/PDIF (DRM alone prevents it). Both of these can be found at least from Blu-ray movies (both 2K and 4K):
* Dolby TrueHD
* DTS-HD Master Audio
6:10 Basically, they got rid of the 'orange' (centre speaker or subwoofer), 'black' (rear speaker), and 'light blue' (line in or side speaker) jacks, keeping S/PDIF (sort of an optical line out), 'pink' (always mic in), and 'lime' (line out or front speaker). They've essentially realised before anyone else that nobody runs their 7.1 channel sound system off of a motherboard, and those that do use a computer as a home theatre PC with 7.1 probably use an audio receiver anyways, to connect consoles and what-have-you to their TV as well.
Buildzoid should make a poll which audio source people are actually using:
Mice in (pink) & line out (green)
Spdif (optical)
Gpu HDMI /DP
Bluetooth / WLAN
USB
5.1
7.1
Most audio receivers specially 7.1 or 5.1 don't have full line out ie sub out, surround out. Most are powered line out. It's a headache if you have built in powered speakers and subwoofers.
The Digital SPDIF OUT, or the optical output you mention, is very important to me : Why ? Because its great at transferring home theatre quality5.1 surround sound, into your home AV home theatre reciever. I have a 75" monitor and a 3080Ti to run 4k @ 120Hz for MSFS 2020 for example. Works great :) And when I stream music or movies I get 5.1 via the PC hooked to the TV :D😊 OH and those red filters are great, the audio should be very very good here :)
i like your voice, i like the style of your words and of course what you talk and what little funny jokes you make and laugh about it.
I already own one computer with a Gigabyte board, the Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi, and I just ordered the Z690 Aorus Pro to build another computer. I did some research and this board seems to be a solid choice. Look forward to receiving it and putting the computer together. Thanks for the video!
speaking from a person who had fail vbios flash before, the onboard igpu is such a god sent
So, I just built my first computer. I used this board specifically [futureproofing aside] because of the type & number of USB ports as I have multiple controllers that are required in the creation process. As it's for my recording studio, the audio on the MB was of no consequence as no one in their right mind would use it in a pro setting. This review gives me more confidence in my choice.
You've got it EXACTLY right when it comes to "Dual BIOS" implementations! Gigabyte should do away with the single/dual switch on their "AORUS Master" boards and just have the BIOS 1/2 switch. If not, just stick to single BIOS. Having to cut power during boot 3-5 times in a row to get the "auto BIOS" system to switch is a royal P.I.T.A. (plus, there is usually NO on-board indicator for which BIOS you're on!)
I'm also in total agreement about POST code displays. I absolutely love 'em, and have always bought the cheapest MoBo that has one on it. I've found that every manufacturer, by the time they include it, makes a high-quality VRM and memory buss, so if you've got a POST display, you've got a good MoBo.
26:31 woo boi intel indeed went insane
Also this is the cheapest (almost) Z690 mobo with a temperature sensor header (which is very important for custom water cooling loops so you can control your radiator fans of off the coolant temperature). The cheaper is the Gigabyte Z690 AERO G, which seems to be basically the same mobo, but targeted at creators. It doesn't have the OC features like POST code.
MSI's Z690 with the temp sensor header are only in the MEG (highest) line and the ASUS Z690 mobos seem to be very costly. Well, technically there's the ASUS PRIME Z690-A which is less than the Aorus Pro and it does have a temp sensor header, but it does not have the other OC features. It's $30 cheaper according to newegg, not much of a difference given what the Aorus Pro offers. Btw the ASUS TUF Z690 line does not have a temp sensor header. And no, I don't care about ASRock, didn't bother to look at their lineup.
I was lucky enough to get a combo drop on Newegg and was pleasantly surprised the board had a temp sensor header on it. I am upgrading from MSI Z390 Ace and I am looking forward to being able to tune my fans to my liquid temp.
One way around the dualBIOS is to change the 2nd BIOS post boot image.
The intel UHD770 iGPU can overclock +500MHz giving it a 2.1GHz clock rated at over 1TFlop of FP32. It helps with quicksync.
All the new things. Yay. Look forward to ram oc
Very expensive boards, I understand the need for these to be expensive but these are f***ing expensive.
Welcome to paying the early adopter tax lol.
@@shadow7037932 it’s the intel tax, not the early adopter that will come in form of instability and no polish.
12 type A ports, damn, when is the AM4 version of that happening. I think 7 was the max on peasant priced boards. FYI, external sound will always be cleaner than any DAC inside a digital RFI noise filled computer case.
gotta love being able to hear the mouse move and being able to tell what's on screen be the type of high pitched noise made.
B550 Aorus Pro has 11 Type A USBs for 180 USD. Most of the Gigabyte lineup for B550 has tons of USB ports.
x570 aorus master owner here, dual bios with switches, yes exactly id get very confused when my bios reset after a few failed resets. But on the other hand i was so ignorant to this feature that it's probably better this way than to be stuck in an endless boot loop.
The super super low end entry Gigabyte Z690 UD is apparently 60A * 16 and 6 layer. I kind of question why anyone would venture outside of the "entry" 200-300 range for gaming/light OC on a 12600/12700k. It seems like the VRM matters less this generation for these two CPUs? (Aurous PRO also seems to be barrier of entry for 12900k).
I would argue the only benefit to a super premium board ($500 USD price range) is 8 layer integrity for memory OC and what not.
Side note.. My X570 UNIFY VRM seems mediocre now by Z690 standards, but such is life.
Before watching video - did you see DerBauer's video? He claims that Gigabyte said they overclocked 12900K to 8 GHz, but it seems CPU-Z validation was not done properly and was likely fake.
I will now watch video.
It’s definitely fake, Gigabyte’s marketing division is awful
@@iceblade019 Yeah - read about the issue more after this comment (I commented just after seeing DerBauer video) - I've read what DOC TB wrote and it seems completely impossible to do an 8 GHz overclock. And given that it's not Hi Cookie's and Gigabyte's first time doing something shady, I won't believe them if they say that they just did it as a joke or that they had 1 in trillion super-silicon. I hate cheaters, even though I was only regular OC who sometimes dabbled in Water Cooling (which was considered XOC when I did it - God I'm so old).
Thanks for your reply. I would write something about exploding, but I do have Gigabyte board - and frankly they have a lot of good ones. But their false advertising makes me consider my next mobo choice (I need a good X570 that will support Ryzen 2700 for the time being to be later switched to 5950X).
Gigabyte made a rounding error.
Or they're lying to your face :)
Now two years later and with the F28 bios, I am trying to get my 7200 memory kit to run at 7600 or 7800 even. So, I really don't need to get a Z790 to overclock my memory.
And Gigabyte didn't believe in their own products and declared 6000 or 6200 ram to be the end of the line for this incredible board. The digital code display was actually my reason for getting it in the first place. It replaced my Z270 Gaming 7, which also has a LED debug screen on. I kinda don't want to buy a board without one. Once you have one, you cannot go back.
6400mhz is limit for stable for this board
Could You please do a rundown on whole Gigabyte z690 board lineup as always? I'm particularly interested in Gaming X VRM. Thank You in advance.
The Gaming X uses a PCP81530 PWM controller for 16x 60A DrMOS phases in "Twin VRM" design (teamed/parallel), as well as DrMOS on the VCCGT/VCCAUX. So they are not Smart Powerstages, but when looking at the competetive pricing of the Gaming X, it's actually in good shape. It undercuts the likes of the MSI Pro Z690-A and is actually a bit better feature-wise. So Gigabyte positioned their board models quite well.
@@Mike500 What about ASUS TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS D4? Can You tell smthing about its VRM and which one would You choose VRM wise?
@@PsXAddicT The ASUS is comparable, but way more expensive, making the Gaming X an easy choice.
Which z690 you will get if you have 400$m
I might upgrade to this board in a year or two, just couldn’t justify the move to ddr5 yet so I went with a lower tier gigabyte board that is ddr4.
Not worth the effort, DDR5 is 2-4% faster than a good kit of DDR4 (see TPU comparison). You will never notice that, so it makes no sense to swap everything just for that minute difference. What's more, Raptor Lake (Alder Lake successor) is gonna come out in about a year, and it's gonna bring Z790, which will also have some boards with DDR4 support. So DDR4 ain't dead yet, it's actually still quite competitive as it's completely mature, they got everything out of that technology, while DDR5 is still in its infancy and too expensive (or sold out at the moment).
Can't wait to see how far buildzoid can push ddr5
i saw the vrm, the io, and the post code and clicked buy the second i saw all those.
I don't think the missing audio ports are a problem, most audiophiles use a external USB/SPDIF DAC anyway.
I was waiting for your video about this board particularly. It's a 100% buy for me. Gonna pair with a 12900k ^^
Why would you buy a 12900K
@@tanishqbhaiji103 the company I work for buys the CPU, so I went for the king...
@@bazsko9600 threadripper/5950X isn’t good enough?
Hi Buildzoid, any chance for a Z690 mainboard roundup at some point? Looks like there are some pretty interesting boards around.
Hey Buildzoid, whats the difference between this one and the z690 ultra apart from aesthetics and the fact that the latter uses 105A power stages ? Its like $20 on top of this one and I was wondering if it makes sense to pay just a little extra just for posterity ? Thanks man and stay safe.
(Besides different heatsiinks) it seems like Ultra's PCB has 8 layers against Pro's 6, which is weird because otherwise they're completely the same. Maybe it's an error on GB website, because they also claim Pro to have ALC4080 and ALC1220 at the same time.
Good question. The ULTRA could possibly be a T-Topology RAM arrangement, hence the extra layers for the tracers. Maybe?
Any difference between the pro and the ultra other than the 105a vrm ? Because if not, the ultra seems a bit pointless.
Did they send you an Z690i Aorus Ultra? It's the only 2 dimm board in stock on newegg right now.
I am just waiting for the Aorus Pro Max 😅😅.
The only thing missing from this board is like pre enregistered memory oc profile like on Asus, otherwise it's the board that does everything.
I can't understand too how people are buying more expensive board
I find the i-gpu port useful sometimes when you have to troubleshoot someone else's pc, and i don't have a spare gpu with me :D
hmmm, p95 "only" does 16, because with the HT checkbox, 8 cores are getting ht and the other 8 cores are not - so really, 24 threads total, but you only enter 16.
This, the auros elite ax, and the auros master on z690 are straight up some of the best motherboards for this platform. Only other board I hope you take a look at is the velocita from asrock because that featureset looks perfect.
Damn, there actually is ONE affordable good Z690 Board! Who would've thunk.
the hero we needed
Just grabbed this board, but the ULTRA version (vs "PRO"). Was $199.99 because of antonline (their own site, their amazon store, ebay store, etc.).
Of course, I am coming from the future of 11/11/2022.
PS - it goes from 90A to 105A Power Stages, but I'm not sure what else is actually different about the Pro to Ultra 'upgrade' (original price jump was 330->370, so maybe that increase power is the only difference).
UPDATE - the Ultra also adds support for DTS:X Ultra (which the Pro doesn't have) and you go from DisplayPort 1.2 to 1.4 from pro to ultra.
So.... DTS:X Ultra is added to the sound support and you upgrade to DS 1.4, and you go from 90 to 105 on the power stages.
God bless you!!!!!
Buildzoid and I ARE best friends :)
yes
Love to know what board to pick if i wamt to stay on ddr4... help me plz :)
I got 3 Aorus Ultra motherboards: 2 Z490 and 1 Z690. I would love if they came with a coffee maker!! Or even license a Keurig system into the mobo!! 🤣
Anyone have an idea why the OLED screen on a Z87 OC formula won't work? Everything else on the board works flawlessly but no display on the screen.
You answered your own question: it's OLED.
@@Wasmachineman suspected that was the case, was wondering if there was a more specific issue to the board at play here.
I ended up getting the Master this gen... at $469 its a no brainer
Do you like it? any issue with bios or ram? Thanks
@@salehabdulla9177 horrible board, no i run an apex, 12900k 5.5 4.3 7200cl30 now. I had sooo many isssues with the master but that was rev1 right after launch. Bios updates could have ironed out the issues. But it wasnt even booting 5200 xmp even after me setting everything manually i couldnt get it to boot.
@@sagerdood k I had positive Z690 master exp. but received damaged on usb plate so shop send me asus hero. when I tested master it was very cool no heat. on asus hero pch heat to 60c.
I'm waiting for the Z690 Pro DDR4 version. I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Thanks for making all of your videos, I've been bingeing them for the last few days. Would you recommend this board for a CPU like the i7-13700k? Or are there better options to consider?
I use this motherboard with 13700kf, with a offset of - 0.075, Vcore set to Normal and internal VCCSA to Normal, I get much less voltages and temps, I have also noticed from all of my previous Gigabyte motherboards are too aggressive in voltages!
Great board! If only this had x8/x8 PCIe gen 5 split and still be sub $400...
I wonder how good this would be with the 13900k or ks because this video was made before the 13th gen was available
Thanks for the review!!!
Socketable bios would be awesome
I wonder if the SMT PCIe slot is going to be an issue over time from the stresses of thermal cycling and the weight of some of these modern video cards.
Post code + 12 USB Ports = me being sold
Great review. I bought an Aorus pro z390 after one of your vids. I've been happy with it. That was my first build and I am learning. Can you confirm.. Gigabyte. Mobo's = Good. GPUs = Bad. Why are they good at power delivery on mobos but not GPU's?
Mobo's = Good
GPUs = Bad
PSUs = Explosive
@@twiggsherman3641 Forgot about those.... 🤣
@@Mark_Point also marketing = worst in the industry, seriously wtf are they doing with the fake ox results
the space on a GPU is less customizable as to power routing, and probably a little space limited width wise
Great video! So can you actually recommend the board for using with the 12900k?
any vids on the super budget Z690 boards planned?
Would i be better of getting this z690 pro over the z790 aurous elite 90amp vs 7amp. does the eelite have 4 more pcie 4.0 lanes? the pro has better rear i/o and wireless maybe better on board audio not sure. And it has that post code and 9 temp sensors. plan on running it with 13700k.
whats the diffrence between this board & the ultra whitch one is higher specs
I expected nothing less from you, and you Delivered yet again... Ok, ok, ya ya, looks great "GOTO" but what about MSI UNIFY or ACE also the z690I from same vendor. As well, for some strange reason, I thought that ASUS's "ProArt" board was going to be 4th of July or New Years Eve Celebration fire cracker, boy was I surprised when I started reading spec sheet.
I have to agree about the USB vs Audio.... buy a decent DAC, reuse through all your systems. Worrying about onboard audio on a desktop is silly.
I bought an Asus Prime Z690A with an Intel Core i9-12900K and Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 memory 16GB 6000MHz but unfortunately the board does not start, what did I do wrong?
Hi man. Thanks for your hard work. Can you make a PCB Breakdown for GIGABYTE Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4. I'm still wondering whether to buy it cause I really don't want to switch to DDR5.
z690 aorus pro also has a ddr4 version
I like this board, i may have to find out if my Noctua NH-D14 works with it, all tho i may have to wait for next gen Intel, i am worryed about power usage of their current lineup, and i kinda want an i5/I7 wiht a bit more pref but lower power draw if posible. Also my 8700k on my Gigabyte Z390 Auros elite, is still going strong in most games(cept bf2042). So getting it oced on my current board could prolong its life for a year or 2 more. But if i wanted the 12600k/12700k i would be shopping for this mobo, just based on your review. it ticks all the rigth boxes for me as well, all the the price is a bit steep in my country, to be fair it seems that all Z690 is heavy duty overpriced tho.
and so it begins...
Hey could you make video with MSI x570 Meg Ace Max
don't have one so no
Hi Buildzoid, I might have missed it in the video but do you happen to know the thermal pad thickness under the VRM heatsinks?
That would be helpful for people who want to replace them
I don't know.
Buy thermal putty. And you have ZERO reason to ever need to replace these in the next 5 years. This obsession with pad thickness since gddr6x came out is fuckin dumb.
@@skoopsro7656 can you recommend any specific putty? it's much easier to buy good pads than putty.
ay i got this board in the mail today :)
How is your experience with Auros pro?
Anyone have issue with Intel 1225 v. I think it's still had same issue: high latency and spikes and inconsistent performance.
I have this board and absolutely love it. But I have a question/concern that I'm hoping somebody may have some insight on. I decided to replace the Intel ILM with the Thermalright contact frame, and it is actually working great. The first time around I didn't have enough contact with the pins, but I went back through the GN method on installation and it is great. Core-to-core deltas are down and I can run P95 at 5.4 (i5-12600k) and get down to 88C.
The only thing is: I immediately started noticing coil whine coming from the VRM. I am 95% sure it was not audible before the ILM swap.
One more detail: it completely goes away when I run a static voltage. I know that's because it's steady, and that is basically what should happen. But yeah. I know whine can be normal, but it's new to me and I am just a little concerned with the circumstances under which it started.
Everything is running perfectly, VRM temps are great, benchmarks run great, etc..
I opened a ticket with Gigabyte, just to get out in front of it just in case. I'm a tech professional myself, but only about 9 months getting deep into hardware.
Any advice?
can you do the aorus z690i ultra the itx ddr4? please! you are awesome buildzoid
this or the msi carbon? with the consideration of price. Is there a performance difference between higher amp lower phase count and lower amp and higher phase count other than temperature differences, according to the divide by 10 rule, the msi vrms will run hotter than the aorus pro. Also whats the difference between an 8 layer pcb and 6 layer
Yay
What's the difference between the Pro and the Ultra? They look to be identical except for aesthetics.
Ive got a asus ddr4 one here and a z690 aorus master, now im wondering if i should run ddr4 till 5 has matured or just swallow the pill and see how far i can take Things on the aorus master with some early likely shit ddr5
I hate the dualBIOS on the Z390 Aorus Pro... but cant find a way to disable it.
Too bad I cannot find the DDR4 version in Canada :(
Hey I have a 2070 super from pny my monitor shorted out now I have no display card still allow my pc to boot just no display there’s a chip around the hdmi area that seems like it got damaged name of the chip marks “elmau” any help ?
No thoughts about PCI-E lanes sharing?
Anyone know anything about the DDR4 version? It doesn't seem to be sold anywhere yet and I can't find a release date for it.
have you got a nice collection of ddr5 yet bz?
What is your thoughts on the Asus Z690 Prime-A? Memory OC?
I liked Gigabyte boards for a while. But after my X570 Aorus Elite bricked and didn't have dual BIOS pissed me off.
Do you think they put overkill voltage regulator for LGA18XX?
Guide OC z690 aorus master pls
wheres the 2 dimmer
Does the power delivery is the same for the Aorus Elite AX?
no. Elite has 16*60A, instead of 90A
where are my audio ports...I was looking forward to this board and they skimped on something so basic...
Please add how many Pcie 5.0 and Pcie 4.0
Gigabyte boards and especially their bios are such garbage, wouldnt get another one, made a huge mistake getting z390pro
actually Asrock B550 extreem4 is the better version of B550 steel legend, they are essentially the same motherboard with different color and surface mounted button on extreme4
why do some z690 boards have an extra dimm slot(3/5 total)? btw i have realtek lan and it works great even though my board is from colorful(i regret everything), intel lan is a scan in my book
because that's not a dimm slot and if you read the manual for those boards it would tell you what it's for.
I'm curious now. What is it? :D
: Is it the one that got 8GHz? ;D - Oh Gigabyte, what have you gotten yourself into this time!? :D
That'll be the Tachyon Z690 is their Overclocking board.
@@Exyvia i think bz can do a better job at marketing than gigabyte’s marketing team
@@iceblade019 Gigabyte's marketing team seems hell bent on dragging their reputation through the dirt.
And by the end of the video this MB will be $430 :)
The master though is only $489!
hey guyyys bill zoey here
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking,
On the Z390 Aorus Master, Gigabyte went with the T-Topology memory configuration, but they’ve chosen daisy chain for the Z690 lineup.
Isn’t that a downgrade when using 4 DIMMs?
Can you do a review of what different postcodes mean? I'd love to hear your personal take on it.
Hey, this can be found in the manual :)
The bashing from Der Bauer on Gigabyte is real. Lets see if he/they realy kick Gigabyte from HardwareBot
I wouldn't mind it, because it would self-destruct hwb*t overnight :^)
I just built a system with this board. The ethernet doesn't seem to be working at all. Any ideas? sub'd
I don't understand why super useful things like post codes are so rare and expensive now. An skylake mobo from years ago for 180 had post codes ffs. Super fucking annoying.