Would DeMar DeRozan Have Been a Great Player in the ’90s? | NBA on TNT
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- Candace Parker, Chris Webber and Shaq debate if Spurs' forward DeMar DeRozan's game is suited for the 1990s.
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Candace: "DeMar DeRozan can play in the '90s"
Shaq: "Four Rings!"
@Overlord Laharl that means nothing
@Overlord Laharl Nothing to do with the situation of Demar play style.
@Overlord Laharl it means nothing because it's irreverent to what there talking about
@@deangelolaws3938 Shaq didn't even say that though, lol.
@MARVIN PETION John 14:6
demar grew up in compton. i think he can handle flagrant fouls
Demar isn’t tough minded... too anxious in the clutch
Can handle death, murders and gangbangs but can't handle a flagrant foul, nice one shaq.
Imagine thinking growing up in Compton automatically makes you hard 🙄
@@Mark-tl5nh he’d probably flop more 😂
@@selfishstockton6123 I know, being from a certain city or town doesnt mean you are instantly tough lol
Yes, Demar could play in any era since he can get to the basket and shoot the midrange.
U didn't see 90s basketball
@@daviderez666 no buddy talking about he would get to the rim in the 90s like he would just slice the defense up he is NOT PHYSICAL ENOUGH
@@704jizzle2 I agree with you.
@@daviderez666 i mean true but just look at his game today he Barely gets to the hole now in the No Touch league the 90s u could handcheck and the centers actually guarded the paint
@@daviderez666 Facts but tbh he wouldn't be able to get pass the Handchecking part he not physical at all
Candace talking about skill and Shaq focusing on flagrant fouls
Bro these "90s" era guys get on my nerves. They literally only bring up physicality when trying to make a point about which era is better. The only reason ppl even hype the 90s up is Because of MJ but when talk about Pure basketball Today's NBA is way more skilled and overall players are Much better
@@mytriish1977 and skill is something that improves with time. Players 20 years from now will be more skilled than players now because they watch the current game adopt the skill set and improve on them
@@mytriish1977 People like AI and KG are not old heads they respect the new generation
@@mytriish1977 the "physicality" argument is so frustrating because they're basically saying whenever they couldn't play defense well enough they would just bodyslam people and that somehow made them better
@@BehindEnemyChimes Exactly. Shaq saying Demar wouldn't dominate 30 yrs ago is idiotic.
What's surprised me the most about DeRozan is how he's improved as a passer.
I know right. DeMar is such a great passer
Yup in his first years he was a legit slasher
I feel like that could be because he’s been on the Spurs
@@kwkylewilliams462 lol no. He has improved every year as a passer and was a above average playmaker towards the end of his raptors career
Compton kid trust me he don’t mind the flagrants Shaq
C. Webb made a business decision right there, "no comment" 😂
He agreed then after Shaq's comment he digressed and left Candace Parker out to dry 😂😂😂
C. Webb, nods head, I'm Switzerland baby 😂
Left her out to dry... that's how he rolls. See Jalen Rose/Michigan
That mid-range is deadly absolutely!!!
And the defense is trash
Facts
@@hmk8585 like MJ during the second three-peat 👍
@@ochitokes The same Jordan that was first team all defense three years in a row?
@@leneouse2263 in the watered down expansion league. 8 seed made the finals in his era
Candace is pretty intelligent and communicates her thoughts well. I would like to see more of her, her thoughts are always interesting
Why is she such a woman. Like she’s out there arguing for no reason raisin her voice up during game highlights 😭 who cares dog I don’t wana say it but I need Kenny back
And she gets hated for just being a woman analyst....
@@daddydoza5164 It was pretty evident from the clip that she voiced an opinion and Shaq did his usual eye roll etc when he doesn't agree. So they had a debate about it. That's not being a woman that's being an analyst. Chuck and Shaq go back and forth all the time.
@@fangman21 okay dexter. If you don’t see what I’m talking about then don’t respond at all cause the stuff that chuck and shaq do aren’t like this 😭She’s always annoying in general the same with the white guy too they just try so hard. The reason why Chris Shaq Ernie and Charles r so good cause they let the flow go and don’t try and rush anything like Candace does literally ever time she gets ready to talk
@@daddydoza5164 They all argue during highlights. Except for Ernie, of course.
Candance been exposing shaq for a lot of people lately. Christian Wood was right when he called him a casual
Shaq is sensitive when he talks about the modern NBA especially centers but he can be right and have a point at times so he ain't no casual
laugh out loud you cant be serious?
I’m calling it now shaq not gonna be on this segment for more than 2 years , or someone higher up will find a way to get Candace outta there
@@yup1992 he’s already been on the segment for more then 2 years
@@kingforte9246 I’m talking about the next 2 years
Shaq sounding like a real old head
I am not an old head but I agree with him.Even if demar was the best option on his team by far he wouldn't get the looks he has today because the game would be spaced less. Getting all the way to the rim would be more difficult as well. Teams are willing to let you take the midrange nowadays.
I have the same issue with people saying any good shooters back then would be thriving in this era.
Candace talking about how “he would be a superstar in any other era”.
So you’re telling me he would be in Kobe/Shaq/Duncan/KGs tier or Jordan/Malone/Hakeem/Robinsons tier. Or even Magic/Bird/Moses/DR.Js tier.
I doubt it. He’s a good player but he doesn’t have that “it” factor to be considered a superstar in any era much less today’s perimeter friendly one.
@@Terror832 no I don't think he'd be a superstar. But that's not the point. He sounds like an old head cause he keeps talking about how his era was so tough and all that
@@Brian-kr7bw well 90s was factually a tougher era. More defense first, worser spacing, and more goons/dirty players.
Does Shaq exaggerate? Sure. But he ain’t wrong. The game nowadays is more perimeter friendly than its ever been.
I mean tell me a playoff series in the last 3 years that is even a fraction as physical as the Bulls vs Knicks early 90s.
@@Brian-kr7bw you need better hearing. He explained that to any player their era is the toughest era. He acknowledged he's biased towards his era just like all players are towards theirs. He might be an old head but you're a stubborn hater.
Love Candace. Always challenging, always thinking, always eloquent in getting her point across.
And on top of that what a classy and beautiful lady.
Besides the fact that most of her points are terrible she’s aight ig
SHE cant even spell Asterisk...
Always challenging is right. It seems like she has an issue every single clip she’s in
Absolutely. He would get more respect in that era.
He is not a good enough defender, but yes he would be a great player in the 90's just like a lot of star player of nowadays (LBJ, Kawhi, KD, Irving, Harden, Luka)
@@pip388 and Demar is one of the worst playoff performers ever
No, he wouldn't. If he could barely get Toronto to the ECF in this era, in weakest Eastern conference ever at that point, he would definitely have problems in the 90's. Jordan, Reggie Miller, and the Knicks would dog walk DeRozan.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Were talking about his play style not his competition with other 90s players.
Don’t disrespect Reggie! He was a sharpshooter and clutch despite being held and hand checked. Don’t forget he scored 8 points in 9 seconds in the PLAYOFFS
His game mirror 90's basketball. He gets lost being on the Spurs.
He’s with one of the greatest coaches of all time...
No it doesn't man that man ain't build for 90s basketball
@@MrJadeHappy thats not bad tho clyde been averaging 26 points a game
@@MrJadeHappy
Clyde is a HOFer dude...
@@MrJadeHappy Don't disrespect Clyde Drexler like that ever again
DeRozan has the skillset that would've been great in the 90s. Shaq more and more getting those Paul Pierce vibes of dumb
He’s just sick of people stomping all over his era because they weren’t born to witness it, can’t blame the big man. I mean he did play in the 90s & 2000s while we obviously didn’t, so you gotta understand his opinion means more than ours.
He Wouldn't have been "great"
@@MrAlexBubba nah u just a 🐑
@@MrAlexBubba nah he’s just an old head who thinks that no one was good enough to play during his era. Candace opinion is valid but he rolled his eyes before hearing her out because he’s too sensitive about things like this. Truth is, most good players today will be just as good, if not better in the 90s. Pippen wasn’t ready for Detroit’s toughness when they play them earlier in his career but eventually he got used to getting knocked down.
@@itfjelani5755 No, Shaq is actually correct about this. DeRozan in the 90's would be a bench player. He's already proven in multiple seasons that he can't lead a team.
Webber knew sitting in that seat soon as he opened his mouth to say something Shaq was gone scream "I GOT 4 RINGS C WEBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
That's what scrubs say when they don't have any intelligent replies.
Will Perdue is another big man with 4 rings who played against Shaq in that era. Will who?
nah c webb didnt wonna say anything cos he knows people will label him a hater, especially after his take on draymonds comments...which was absolutely true. c webb knows candace is trippin but dont wanna criticize two current players on the same show....cos the internets will give him "ure just a hater vibe"
@@el84oro true dat. Media is now dominated by who's loudest instead of who's correct.
@@el84oro 2:19 nah, he's agreeing with her, you can see his nods and body language, he didn't want to upset Shaq
@@el84oro Demar has some of the best footwork in any era. Listen to guys like Kobe and KD praise him. Shaq couldn’t even shoot FT, who cares about his opinion on basketball skills. He’s there for jokes and takes himself too seriously. Always throwing shade at great players. What’s so special about C Webb compared to DeMar?
"He doesn't have a lot to prove, but he does at the same time". Alright Shaq.
Love Candice. Intelligent, insightful, confident and beautiful.
We don't listen to Candace when she talks we generally go to sleep. Chuck Ernie Kenny please come back ASAP
@@morrismilk speak for yourself. She’s a much welcomed breath of fresh air to the panel
@@noobassasin9 speak for yourself she's not a good analyst.
Nobody on the panel agreed with her ... Because it's a trash take. C Webb in his head like 'how do I keep this job'.
Bruh she's said he would be THE GREATEST
@@stanvanillo9831 ok simp
He would be another great player to never win a ring
True,The Bulls and Rockets had the 90s locked up
Assuming he was on the Spurs, I’m not sure how the Admiral and DeRozan would look
Even in the 70s he’s got it tough
Good not great
Demar would not be great in the 90's. He's not even great now.
Shaq never lets anyone have a different opinion. At least he never asked her to Google him.
GOOGLE ME CHUCK !!!
Candace has really exposed how little Shaq knows about the game this year on this show
I'm no SJW, but it's why it's not ridiculous to think we could have a female coach in the NBA one day. Female ballers are generally less athletic and fun to watch, but they're just as knowledgeable about the game.
@@nahor88 sure they can be knowledgeable but they are not fun to watch. I wouldn’t even waste my time watching bottom nba teams, let alone the WNBA.
Shaq doesnt know how to communicate his point, but he knows the game and lived it more than Candace did in that era. You have to respect the HOFer opinion.
She’s not wrong.
In this case, she is. I usually agree with Candace. On this issue, I don't. DeMar is barely successful in this era. In the 90's, he would be a bench player or at most a role player.
@@melvinhhcp3615
He's a 4 time NBA All-Star and had some great runs with the Raptors
Just because he's not able to get pass Lebron doesn't mean he's unsuccessful
Also he's a bad 3 point shooter, that's one of the reasons he's not able to find much success today
But in an era that demanded midrange and finishing around the rim and doesn't demand him to shoot threes? He could very well be at least a Top 5 SG at the time when there weren't much great SGs
@@janseanhernane3191 Top 5 SG in the 90's? smh lol. You don't know what you're talking about. Your basketball knowledge is limited. If he was really a 90's type player, he would've beat Bron at least once. However, he got swept multiple times, and dropped in 6 in embarrassing fashion. When he left, Kawhi took the Raptors to The Finals. DeRozan is not a 90's type player. At least not a star player. Not even close.
@@melvinhhcp3615 You old heads cant accept the simple that players are much more better now skill wise demar would be great in that era
@@ng7214
Yeah those defensive rule changes in the early 2000s and the proliferation of 3 pointers has NOTHING to do with it. 🙄
i like demar but he doesn't have "it"
he always underperformed in the playoffs
he got his first triple double vs the raptors after they traded him.. i saw him play that game. he should play like that all the time and he would be great
Facts
He’s a very good player .. but it’s something missing .. I don’t know what it is.
@@brucehaughton1791 Heart. He doesn't have any heart. He's not the guy that's going to take a franchise to the next level. That element isn't in him.
@@melvinhhcp3615 maybe you’re 100% my boy was telling he doesn’t really impact a game like a Allstar or Superstar player should ... Candace said it’s because he doesn’t shot 3’s like that but look at Ben, look at kawhi .
@@brucehaughton1791 It not just because he doesn't shoot 3's.
Hes without a doubt a superstar in the 90s. He's already an allstar in this era.
Absolutely not, he is not an good enough defender for that, plus he don't have the mentality to be a superstar nowadays so think about the 90's
@@paquinraino8180 You crazy asf 😂. He would’ve been a superstar
Demar would prolly be considered in the goat convo if he played in the 90s
@@chainsawman3900 Bruh stop it, the best attribute he has is his midrange game which isn’t even as good as Jordan, Kobe, KD, etc. Plus he has never been a great defender, how is he gonna be “in the GOAT conversation” without being better than actual top 10 players?
He doesn't have a motor like the greats and his playoff performances are subpar to say the least, idk what you guys are smokin but DeMar derozan would be the same player he is now
Demar from Compton he ain’t backing down from no one
Oh really? I guess LeBron is now a no one
Except in the playoffs lol
Being from the CPT doesn’t mean anything.
I know plenty of dudes from Compton that are soft as cupid.
It’s all about how you carry yourself, not where you come from.
@@Terror832 both because you rep where you are from but how you carry yourself is number one
Demar has been in the league for a while and has mostly been a disappointment. He was traded for a reason, and was never considered a top Eastern Conference player on the Raptors. This is just recency bias, and folks forget what has been happening just years ago.
Shaq acting like he played football with people that matched his strength, man calm down. You try to befriend everyone who's considered tough
He dominated them all
I like Shaq and Candaces chemistry it seems like they go at it quite a bit but I love how she’s pushing back on some of their opinions with a more modern players outlook.
what is the song during the highlights ??
Demar kills in the midrange and he constantly attacks the basket. I think he'd hold his own in the 90s. He's not afraid of contact and he knows his game.
His midrange proficiency is overrated. He shoots below 39% from 16ft and beyond. He's not an elite scorer and he doesn't really do anything else at a high enough level - which is why he hasn't made an All-Star and All-NBA selection since 2018.
@@atlien1988 west it stacked 😂😂 Russ Lebron ad Kawhi PG cp can’t forget Steph Klay Booker Jokic Jamal Murray luka Zion dame Ja Mitchell Gobert shai Kat dlo u get the point and most of the time he is guarded by the other teams best defender and will clamp him up
@@atlien1988 playmake? 💀
Man at this point now Shaq is just too painful to listen to. He’s really sounding like Skip now like a pure hater.
hes right tho. no hate this time. You can not just go in the paint in the 90s..
Everytime someone makes a good point or opinion. He gets offended and starts hating.
@@theicemachine1574 what do you mean. People really act like they were playing football on the court in the 90s. It was not like that at all. 90s is just like playing outside and every player in the nba has played at the park
he isnt wrong. anything that someone says which is a difference of opinion everyone calls a hater. demar's game being similar to the 90s doesnt mean he would have been great in it. its a ridiculous take. the hand check defense and the way the 90s defense was suited to shutting down the paint and the middle would cause problems for him....also the guy is mentally fragile, guards like reggie miller mad max et al would have had him for lunch. the guys coach left him on the bench for a fourth quarter conference final and he wasnt injured....that says a lot. candace is trippin
@@theicemachine1574 plz shut up, quit acting like it was war in the 90s
To be fair, Shaq has a point that DD would a good player but probably not a great one during the 90s. Not for Shaq's reason that he'll be touched up, but for reasons being that every other SG would be doing what he's doing shooting midranges and it would be very hard to distinguish himself from the crowd. Plus, the floor would not be as spaced out like it is now, and there would be less room to get to preferred spots on the floor. Even MJ had to make his lunch from post-up fadeaways.
DD's mid-range game is very noticeable now simply because very few other players play that style, and ironically, it is possible that mid-range game might arguably be the more effective style for most average players in the current spaced-out state of the game.
Westbrook is now a much more efficient player when he ditched shooting 3s and posted better percentages banking midrange pull-ups.
Chris Paul wouldn't be surviving this long if he hadn't relied on his high percentage midrange pull-ups that made him dangerous in any situation.
But with the analytics-driven league drooling over shooting 3s, there is no better time for developing an unsexy but reliable midrange game that takes full advantage of the spacing there is now.
Just ask Kawhi.
Demar definitely can create his own shot with space or none. The guy is a big Kobe fan and if you see him play, he has a lot of Kobe moves in his repertoire.
@Saint Wretched Solid analysis
Yeah it’s simple the best scorers in the game have a deadly mid range game
If it was Chuck who said that statement instead of Candace, it would be classic. 😁
no disrespect to chuck, but he cant articulate his words like that
We live in a day and age where players are recruited during their middle school days to play at certain high schools or even offered scholarships to colleges! There are travel teams that have the best coaches. The game has come a long way since then and the preparation for these young kids to excel at sports has transcended from it's organic beginnings.
Of course many of these player (mostly the guards and shooting forwards) would do well in almost any era.
The problem with her comment is she said he could of been one of the greatest ever lol. Big statement! Just say his style of play fits in with the 90’s and he could of been solid.
I think she's right.. who's to say. He can go around you..over you..make you foul him..
He’d be just as good as Clyde
@@ricdtbear
If he can’t play good in the playoffs in this era, with its better spacing and no hand checking, there’s no way he suddenly becomes a superstar in the 90s. In fact, he probably gets worse.
They're is probably no right or wrong answer to these questions...because if you look at the n.b.a . for years it's all about who they want to market... today in my opinion they don't have a lot of real superstars..now you can stop your dribble ..take a extra step over and shoot..and if you pay close attention players are getting away with palming the ball now again..my point is..the n.b.a will do anything to keep the game interesting.
@@ricdtbear Agreed! Basketball is my fav sport, so I'll always be watching the NBA. The NBA has deff become a watered down product, due to rule changes, too much player empowerment, overpaid and etc.. I think it's funny that you can give a bunch of 20 something yrs old's control over a billion dollar product. Imagine giving me soo much decision making ability at that age lol. There's only 2 kinds of people that promote the sport now and that's the younger generations that grew up in this era and that's all they know and the media who needs to pump out this fake propaganda that the NBA is at it's best in hopes to increase viewership. The NBA has been a ratings down slop for years now... ever since MJ left the NBA has been on slow decline.* just a heads up, I'm a huge promoter of the BLM movement, so when I say too much power, I'm referring to other matters.
If DeMar could play defense he would be a great in this era.
He's playin good D this year. Pop doesn't let people get away with that.
I just love the regal way candace has her hair.
I think what she meant is his skillset is more catered towards back then his midrange game is good especially for then when the 3 pt shot wasn’t important and an inside out game then
Shaq and older players act like today's players can't get physical right back. It literally goes both ways and he'd be a better defender.
Yeah old heads never talk about how the rule changes didn’t just make it easier to score, but harder to defend. They act like all these players are soft but if they were aloud to hand check and do hard screens some players would be getting way better stats defensively
@@joshreid1006 Exactly and why are people calling them soft and getting easy foul calls as if the players were the ones that changed the rules just go complain to the NBA if that's such an issue. And this whole narrative about so and so can't play in the 80s or 90s needs to stop, if Lebron was born earlier and came up through the 90s then he would adapt to the 90s playing style am I right? If Jordan came up through today's NBA then he would be shooting more 3s, you really can't compare
Demar is good at finishing through contact which would be great in a more physical era and with his midrange and no urgency to shoot the three and specifically his Kobe like footwork for sure imo he'd be great in the 90s
demar derozen is my favorite player . i actually am waiting on a jersey in the mail from him today. No, as in he wouldn't be great. He would have to make a lot of adjustments. like Shaq said you'd get touched up if u score 4 or 5 times in the paint. idk if demar built like that.. Love his play style tho. been a fan since his rookie year
I actually believe Shaq totally agrees with her but knows that tension creates ratings
Candace tripping
lol exactly what i said
Jimmy Highroller made a video about this and said exactly what she said.
To be fair LOW made a rebuttal video that even Jimmy acknowledged exposed some poor takes in his video
Facts mans game is inside love watching him
Haven’t been on the NBA in a while but is this the new cast of inside the NBA?
Demar is a very good player now and he would have been very good in the 90's, too.
Everyone gets that his mid-range game translates better to previous eras. Nothing new or exciting about that take. But what I'm not seeing, in scrolling through about 50 comments (everyone siding with her) is anyone challenging/questioning her claiming that "he would have been one of the greatest to ever play the game." Even the use of the often thrown around phrase, "one of the greatest" requires defining. A lot of people have played the game. Is she talking about one of the thousand, five hundred, one hundred, or ten best? Any would be, at some level, note worthy, but not at all the same.
Great point
His offensive game would suit the 90s for sure and I am sure he could handle the contact and flagrants. The problem is Demar on the defensive end where he would probably be a liability especially back then.
Hey Ms Parker
DeMar DeRozan would've been a absolute superstar in the early 90s with his own shoes, commercials etc.
Lol....jordan was putting up 50... Clyde was a baby Doc J.....Vince was jumping over 7footers....Ron Arrest and Ben Wallace knocking people out the air....Iverson was 1man show..Derrick Rose ruined his career making it to the top.....Kobe was just as fierce as Jordan....Demar had his chance...HE NOT HOOPING lol.... especially not in the 90s
In the 90s, it was Boom or Bust frfr....Kobe rode the bench for 3yrs....some of the people that may be brought up comparing to Demar are "1yr superstars" or exceptionally more athletic...midrange was just a safer, easier shot to consistently make as the 3-pt is now..... superstar???....they always has way more in the bag
@@soloe9694 if you look up nba players most similar to Jordan you get kawhi and demar
They are both similar but not the same. I'm just saying Demar would not be much more than his is in this era. Great players in the 90's were more than scorers. Scorers who were "great" were also deemed "unstoppable". Nor Khawi or Demar fit that yet.
@@soloe9694 oh yeah I mean I agree I don’t think he’d be a superstar or anything I just think kawhi and his game are reminiscent of how Jordan played. I bet he’d have relatively the same success in a different era as he does now.
Just looked it up because when Candice mentioned it idk why I immediately thought of Clyde the glide Frazier. What’s separates him from DeRozan??? They have extremely similar career stats. I agree to a point with what Candice is saying
I believe anyone can play in any era as their approach to the game will be based on which era they are born.
"If you put DeRozan in any other era, he would be one of the greatest to play the game."
No, if you are truly one of the greatest to play the game, you will be great in any era.
Not entirely true, I guarantee you all those players from the 60’s - 70’s would see a significant dip in production with the evolution of athleticism coaching and play style
EXACTLY . candace is trippin
@@tropojay1 not necessarily true because they would benefit from the improvements in coaching and technology to help with athleticism. It doesn’t make to just pick up a player from the 60s and drop them as-is in the 2020s without including everything that comes with it
Tf you smoking he’s great already
@@ashwynnair6812 which would imply that demar would’ve grown up playing a physical brand of basketball so he’d be fine if he was in the 90’s
Would love to see DeRozan come back to the Raptors to play with Lowry now that they have developed some other pieces like Siakim, VanVleet and OG. Let’s get the band back together.
Great point! I understand what shaq is saying, but I don't think we can accurately describe the physicality of today's players considerably the way the game is officiated. If you were as physical as they were in shaq times, especially in the earlier part of his career, in the early 90s, your fouling out every game in today's NBA.
I love the candace Parker vs shaq
Candace lowkey makes great points. I can’t blame Shaq though, he’s gotta make it a funny back and forth
High key
A big difference between great player and good player , that is what shaq was emphasizing tho
@@lawrencecantiller5458 yep she could’ve even said “one of the greats of that era “ and it would’ve have cool but nooooo she took it way over and said “One of the greatest ever to play” come on now . Lol
@@nguont then gets offended everytime shaq answers back lol
this era is way more skilled than the era shaq is talkin about, would he be tough enough who knows but he'd definitely be good enough at basketball to make it
Maybe but with way less passion and dedication.
Yeah guys like Hakeem or David Robinson have no skills
I agree with Candace I never thought about Demar in that way but in the 90s a lot of the guards were not great shooters. He would've stood out because the does have a great mid range jumper and he shoots 50 percent from the field.
Everyone can play in any era. You play to the style of your era. These guys can adjust. They don't play as rough as before because the league doesn't allow them too
How to turn an underrated player to overrated in 5 min
i mean he wasn't even in the asg so every year in his career he's gonna be underrated
Shaq: oUR eRA
As if these players can't withstand a few flagrant fouls. And besides, not everytime you score several points you get touched up that's just completely made up stories from grandpa Shaq
he would be amazing
I love that Candace is never afraid to go head to head challenging Shaq lol
Candace is soooo fiiiiiiiiinnne
@@rajiba7115 your crazy
@@qweenzgrimyest nah you are
She's okay looking at the very best, take away the 💄 Lashes.
Shaq is right on this one. Derozan was benched for the 4th quarter of a playoff game. Please name one 90s player that was best player on their team and had to be benched because of their play. I’ll wait.
The game is different now. The mid range game was more prevalent in the 90s. Now it’s all about the 3 point shot.
Demar Derozan will be, and still is a great player in the 2020s. Still easily my favourite player to watch and like right now. I've just turned into a bulls fan because of him (I mean not as a team but I do wish them success and will root for them from now on until demars no longer a bull)
I like Doc Rivers take on great players: Theyre great in any era. If you p3kay in a 3pt era but shoot the midrange then expand your game. Its reallly a matter of practice.
Shaq is just dumb fam smh 🤦♂️ Derozan can play in 90s and be soo dominant and he’s a tough guy tooo
He's basically perfect for 90's ball.
Shaq been a hard critic of Demar and Lowry since Raptor Days.
No. This is completely wrong. Shaq is actually right about this.
@@melvinhhcp3615 how?
@@melvinhhcp3615 how
I think she for got that so many other player were GREAT IN THAT ERA mj was the greatest at that time a kobe was becoming the greatest R.I.P KOBE and many others so he would half had to go against the greatest
Kobe wasn't even relevant in the 90's.
Kobe was barely noticed in the 90's lol it was Iverson and Jordan back then.
@@anima099 both Kobe and Iverson are 2000s it literally was just mj and penny until he got hurt
Beautiful Bully kawhi is a player right now that shoots the mid range ma’am and he’s 10 in this era ... it’s something else about DeRozan game that’s not messing with this era
I can see where Candace is coming from. I feel the same way about JV on Memphis. Not saying JV would be the best but I think he would be a top 10 player. The new of style nba sometimes hinders players who have more of a throw back game because of spacing and 3s
These old heads really are living in some imaginary world. They would be physical with you and you would lose all 20 years of basketball training because of that. SMH. That said if I play Shaq 1 v 1 and break his knees with baseball bat I am better player than him?
Candace spitting facts
The defense was much more physical back then. But great players adjust and I think he would still be able to do 20-5-5 like he has now
Candace looking like a snack firstly. Shaq had me dead tonality 😂😂😂😂
Shaq definitely right, b good player like now..def not great, she even said like mitch richmond but he was jus good; great players in 90s is MJ, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, Malone, Isiah, Stockton, Ewing, Barkley, Penny, Robinson, Dominque, Drexler, Pippen, Payton, Reggie etc so not mitch who was good but not great so she made no sense with that comparison b/c demar wouldn't been better than any of them & lot more players would've been behind
Mitch was always underrated because he played for the Kings, but he earned respect of Michael as one of his hardest opponents czcams.com/video/KFRi59mkwwI/video.html
Isn't Demar from compton
Compton finest and neighborhood Blue Santa
Shaq played alot of minutes back in the 90’s and saw it all. I agree with Shaq, he had alot to pay attention to back then. Think about how many players were famous one yr and not the next yr in the 90’s, Shaq is aware of this. It was not easy and its not easy to even think about it when you have to consider everything that came with the 90’s. Not sure though when it comes to JUST basketball.
I'd love to see Candaces flow with Chuck on stuff like this. DeMar would be fine.. he's not some special life altering player...3s didn't take over the league till 15... before that..he was still..fine. He's like Spreewell or Stackhouse.
DeMar kind of reminds me of a MJ, Kobe type that isn’t as great of a playmaker and defender but could offensively produce at the same level as those two.
Candace is the only one on that stage able to articulate her point well. Shaq is out there using platitudes and nonsense and cweb just sat there. Absolutely no one acknowledged her point or offered a counter. Embarassing for those guys.
Because it’s laughable to say Demar Derozen would be one of the greatest to do it. She’s basically saying that player like MJ would not even be top 5-10 in today’s era
I been saying that too Candace
I think looking at the salaries of the players in the 90s i bet he's happy playing now..
DeMar's from Compton...he could handle the physicality of Shaq's era
Not everyone from Compton is physical
@@selfishstockton6123 lol how’d you know?
Here's another name that probably would have been better in almost any other Era.
Ben Simmons.
As a sixers fan, I'm about two years over him now.
You simply can not win in today's modern game with a primary ball handler who refuses to shoot the ball.
Especially with the no nonsense coaches of past eras, they wouldn't have put up with his bs like Brett brown and doc rivers do.
The only way he'll progress in today's game is to be traded to a team that has a coach who's actually going to make him get better instead of just being stagnant, like he's been pretty much his entire career so far.
I would have been traded him awhile ago.
Get the OG cast back foh with this new 3 commentators
He'd probably be a great 6th man or a really good starter, I think he would get overlooked regardless; some people just do.
Demar would be the same tier in the 90’s as he is now. That’s how the eras work
@Sergio Paramo This is not accurate. Lol
@Tyler Holt from the entire 90s?? LOL im sure theres more than 10 guards that could start for some of these teams. Now there plenty centers of today who could impact of the past, now if we talking superstars and all-stars thats when it starts to differentiate
DeMar DeRozan even at his peak could make 1 or 2 all star games in any era but I doubt he would be a All NBA player much less a superstar.
@@melvinhhcp3615 okay Melvin
im in love with Candace 😍
I wish c webb and dwade can be on at the same time cux he woulda helped with the convo een tho he wasn’t 90s
Another beautiful insight by Shaq,
Nobody-"-----"
Candace-"I think Demar's skillset (deadly mid range) translates well in 90s, could have been one of greatest eva if he played in that era"
Shaq-"FLAGRANT FOULS, TOUCH HIM UP"
DeRozan reminds me so much of Steve Smith. He would have been a star in the 90s no doubt.
Steve Smith was an actual shooter. DeRozan is not. At most, he would be on Sean Elliott's level.
Steve Smith was a big 2 guard at 6'8. Derozen is small.
@@rodneywilliams1300 DeRozan is "6'6". That's big enough.
@@melvinhhcp3615 So he would be better than TMac, Penny, Kobe?
Given his playoff performance records, I don't see how DeMar is going to be one of the greatest in any era.
Yes
Demar wouldn’t be great, good maybe. Different era, you have to remember the defense is also tougher in the 90s.
And they’re also prepared against his midrange attacks.
So 90s defenders wouldn’t sweat over DeFrozen
Honestly it was more physical but it wasn’t as technical. They basically played mostly man to man with not much zone.
I like shaq and Candice together its always funny lol
I agree wholeheartedly with Candace parker her point was well taken
Man Shaq really thinks his era is superior, because it makes him look better
Every great player thinks their era was better because they have first hand experience in how good the players of that era were. Also understand everyone´s idea of "great" is not the same. Shaq played with Penny, Kobe, Lebron, Pirece, Allen and Wade. He played against prime MJ, near prime Drexler, prime T-Mac, prime Vince Carter, prime Grant Hill, prime Reggie Miller, prime AI, prime Manu, prime Glenn Rice, prime Mitch Richmond, prime Peja... I like Demar but he´s not any of those guys. So even if you just look at the guys Shaq played was teammates with Demar would have come in as the 7th best wing. That 90´s and early 2000´s era was full of great wings in the way today´s game is full of great point guards. Demar would have come in, in the group that included Sprewell, Allen Houston, Glenn Robinson, Steve Smith. All very good and dynamic players but not "great". When Shaq talks about the physicality the biggest factor for wings of that era was not the hand checking and flagrant fouls, it was the hard hedging and chipping off ball. The freedom of movement rules that Demar has played with almost all of his career allowed wings to release free, run free, catch free THEN operate off the bounce without the threat of contact. Even with that he´s been an inefficient offensive player for most of his career so Shaq is right to doubt that Demar would ave been more efficient in an era with more contact and physicality.
@@trainerrob1622 this may be the best explanation of the different so called “eras” and the actual people who played in these said eras thought process. Thank you.
She’s getting a pass here. DeRozan wouldn’t be a great player in the 90’s. He’d be able to play and contribute, but he’d be the fourth best player on the best teams. He’s the type who would relieve Jordan, Pippen, Clyde, and those types of players. But if Candace think he’d be great, then that means he couldn't any worse than the third best player on the upper echelon teams.
true dat, add his subpar defense he's a poor man's Carmelo. I mean look at all the prolific wings in 90s, compared to DeRozan, either there overall shooting was better or they were a better defender. She's so short sighted about "deadly mid range shooting", in 90s there were at least 10 better scoring WINGs that were better mid range than Derozan. How would he even be considered one of greatest ever (all time) if he played in that 90s era, when he wasn't great compared to the field (90s)
Kids these days or bandwagons don't understand this. I'm not even that old but I understand the greatness of the players from the 90's. DeMar straight up can't defend. And only his midrange is decent. Denis Rodman would bully him 24/7 without going full on.
@@Red-yd3sc I'm referring more to Candace getting a pass for an awful take. That's why I love Barkley. He likes DeRozan, but he would have laughed at Candace for such a dumb take.