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Moneyball. Brad Pitt stars in this film about Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane and his attempt to put together a baseball club on a budget by employing computer-generated analysis to draft his players. Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) challenges the system and defies conventional wisdom when his is forced to rebuild his small-market team on a limited budget. Despite opposition from the old guard, the media, fans and their own field manager (Philip Seymour Hoffman), Beane - with the help of a young, number-crunching, Yale-educated economist (Jonah Hill) - develops a roster of misfits…and along the way, forever changes the way the game is played.
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"What else can I help you with?" So well written, such a cut-throat business line. They did it very well.
Well they couldnt of picked a bigger C_NT to plat the owner thats for sure !
@@MrBizteck Cunt? What I he supposed to do? He’s not a rich owner.
@@akallstar5 all owners are rich
@@jonbruce4930 lol yea buddy not necessarily rich enough to spend 200 million annually in salary
@@akallstar5 You do realize this is set in 2001, right? Baseball salaries were nowhere near 200 million at that time. The yankees had the highest payroll at 126 million and the athletics only had 41 million. The owner could of bumped it up to 50 million and that would of been a 22% increase by itself. A 200 million dollar payroll would of been almost a 400% increase in payroll then they actually had and almost 60% more then the yankees payroll, who were the highest payroll in MLB at the time.
I forgot how good this script and acting was
This script is flawless, love every second of this movie
I forgot how hawt Brad Pitt is 🙆🏻
Classic Arron Sorkin, all his stuff (well most of his stuff) is just as good
The acting in this is good from pitt only. The other guy is 👎
The script is adapted from a book.
I had no idea Bobby Kotick was in this movie. He does a great job acting all things considered.
Maybe it's just all the experience being a bad leader who pinches pennies while sacrificing the wellbeing of his staff.
I came to the comments looking for confirmation. 👍
@@cursedbeats9934 being a leader and bring profitable are two different things.
@@Bulldog22031 A sickness in modern America is people have conflated "being wealthy" with "being successful / virtuous / a decent person."
There's no doubt that people like Kotick have made a lot of money, but that doesn't mean they were good leaders or took care of their people doing it.
@@cursedbeats9934 Dude, he made company profit by firing hundreds of staff, both experienced and inexperienced ones... He is just good at cutting corners to reduce costs, if you think that's good "leadership," you must be dumb as a brick.
To say nothing of Kotick as a person, I'd assume he has more money and has a lot more power and clout than the character he plays. Could be wrong.
"Bobby i need more money" "sorry billy, im gonna need it for all the sexual harassment lawsuits im sweeping under the rug"
and for blizz's 200 millions $ bonus for himself. xD
Lmao you believe allegations? Time to wake up
@@ShaunHensleysome are made up and some are true….
Scott is Scott boras?
@@ShaunHensleySpoken like someone who's been on the other side of the allegations. Typical
Moneyball probably has the most believable executive that’s ever been put on film because he was actually played by Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick. The whole “what else can I help you with?” motif is 100% accurate. Notice how it works when Schott uses it on Billy, but when the A’s manager tries it on Billy, it fails because a) Billy Beane has a stronger will and b) Billy didn’t report to Art Howe (the other way around, in fact)
knew I recognised him but couldnt put a name to the face. Being that Im a game dev, thats embarassing :D
Crazy timing for us to be watching the clip now, given his name being in the news now.
I just noticed this before I read this, and it freaked me out.
I almost didn't recognize him without the horns...
Its Bobby Koticks world and we're just living in it.
The line 'figure out how to replace the guys we've lost with the money we do have' pretty much sums up the whole moneyball idea.
great point. and the title "moneyball" refers to the fact that the movie involves money and balls as well.
I never realized this... But isn't it ironic that Bobby Kotick is playing someone in this movie that doesn't want to pay more for his labor? kek
He did a great job in the small role he had.
@@kevinc8955 He brought a sense of realism to the movie. His role is basically saying "no" to Billy Beane asking for more money, and he does it like a guy who know what its like to give someone a budget in the millions of dollars and then have them ask for more so they can get better results.
Yeah i thought it was pretty funny when rewatching this movie. Although i think real life is much worse with settlements out of court and everything probably going back the way it was.
That's not what irony is. It's exactly what you'd expect from Kotick. It's the opposite of irony.
It took me a hot second to realize it was Ol' Bobby Kotic in this scene. RIP Blizzard entertainment/LMFAO Activision.
I freaking thought he looked familiar. My god good ol Bobby wasn't even acting here. I bet it is the same speech he gives whenever Blizzard developers ask for more resources.
@@richards6431 for Reforged
This movie makes all those people who say "I can't give you more money" feel real good because look how it worked out for the A's
A 20-game winning streak and out in the first round of the playoffs to the Twins? ;)
@@katherineberger6329 oaklands A's was a bad team right
@@qwertyki9367 Did I say they were a bad team? No. But they demonstrate that analytics alone can only take a team so far - beyond that threshold, you need to actually spend money to succeed.
@@katherineberger6329 i never thought about you thinking they were a bad team. Thanks for answering my question btw, i dont know shit about baseball but thought the moments in the movie was pretty cool
Not really, if the goal is just make the playoffs and one and done. Had the As won it all, then sure you'd be right. But the tried and true "just pay more than everyone else" style still works and will always work. Being cheap on your players, or your real life 9-5 workers, you're gonna get a bad product. It's just life. You get what you pay for, and even after the As success, that rings true cause the higher budget teams still keep winning, except now they can add analytics to their style.
Nothing like being a Pirate fan. We train future Yankees as essentially their farm club.
nah you a farm for the Rays sadly
Do YOU train them or do they?
So does everyone
The Kansas City Royals were infamous for being an unofficial Yankees farm system back in the 70s. They would frequently send great players to them.
That's how I feel about the Rams in football, except they use draft picks and money to aquire players after they've been proven.
And this is the real reason Oakland never won anything. They have arguably the biggest cheapskate in the MLB for an owner.
Fuck the A's ownership. They're lucky to have Billy Beane bail them out from be perpetual basement eaters year in and year out
At least they're not the Astros. Up until a few years ago, the Astros never won ANYTHING. Not even a championship.
@@Dakarn When's the last time the A's went to an ALCS? 20 maybe 25 years ago?! GTFO. The 1970-1980 As don't mean shit right now in 2021
@@nap0920 ok. I'll compromise and say the Brewers instead.
Royals fan here, reporting for salary complaint session
"I need my Moneyball too." literal chills in the theatre
Billly Beane is easily the best GM of this ERA. With a better owner, Oakland would be winning championships every other year.
Alex Anthopolus would counter that!
Dude the A’s are STILL poor. They gotta leave Oakland
Love how Activision blizzard CEO just plays himself in this scene
Literally lol
To be clear, this guy never owned the A’s. He was playing the role of the guy who owned the A’s.
@@HoustonTom are you explaining how acting works? Or the difference between a GM and owner lol. Ofc
@@bmo14lax your comment was that the activisipn ceo played himself in the movie. He wasn’t the owner so therefore he wasn’t playing himself, he was acting.
@@HoustonTom Yes, it's called a metaphor
An incredibly dumb metaphor I randomly posted 11 months ago....
Bobby Kotick is really good at playing himself
He's not, he is playing Stephen Schott, a co owner of Oakland A's. It's odd, I know.
@@Clevercommenter You don't get it.
The quality of the sound in this entire movie is AMAZING!!
“what else can I help you with?” That’s what you call a hammer.
In the business world it's called, "Now you can get the fuck out of my office."
The owner of the club was played by CEO of activition.
It all makes sense now. Doesn't want to pay fair wages. Wants sales and results without supplying the payroll necessary to achieve it.
@@Dakarn this is not the analogy you think it is..the whole movie is about how they got the results without the money. In baseball you go to the team offering you the better deal. Same with ABK, employees should look for a better deal :)
@@mtgHose No, I wasn't talking about the movie. I was digging at Kotick.
Aced it. 👍
"We need money...and we need balls" *looks directly at the camera and smiles*
For those that don't know - The billionaire he's asking for money from is Bobby Kotick, the CEO of Activision-Blizzard who has recently come under fire for hiding sexual assault in his company.
U don't tell your company if your doing sexual assaults
The company he helmed fostered an environment of sexual-harassment. I don’t believe there are any sexual-assault allegations.
nobody accused him of hiding it.
This is not accurate
Pochetino speaking to Levy.....
Mourinho to Woodward and the Glazers
Ain't that the truth
@Ian Pulham yeah, that’s for sure!
One of the better baseball movies out there. It shows the trend of how baseball is now especially for small market teams and larger market teams trying to play that numbers game. The thing that it comes down to is the trade deadline and luck. Baseball's a special beast.
It's a neutered mess.
I like the sport and the fans in baseball but i really hate the business side from it. It's not fair that teams like the Yankees can pay a single player the entire budget of another team. Competition is not competition when there's a monopoly, it's a well defined fact from Economics. What's the point of even being a fan unless you are from the city where the team comes from. I gave up on it and now just watch it trying to ignore which teams are actually playing.
@@martingundelach4915 So you're still supporting MLB?
@@martingundelach4915 which is why baseball badly needs a cap floor and ceiling. Look at what it’s done for hockey
The term small market is a fallacy, every team is owned by a multi billionaire, they can afford the salaries. They just don’t want to cuz most “small market” owners just want to make money from overpriced ticket sales and concessions
"Congratulations asshole you win" That was priceless.
i died at that too because my man Brad Pitt is so priceless classic Brad man and also I use "Congratulations asshole u win" to people I hate and severely don't want anythin to do with my man 🤣🤣
The writing is excellent. The acting (talking about the whole movie and not just this scene) is above to great. But I can’t help but to wonder how much the dialogue and acting is bolstered by the texture of the actors’ voices? With the exception of a few of the younger actors, everyone’s voice (to me) has multiple layers, one that provides clarity, and one that provides a kind of grit or texture that makes listening to the crisp and well written dialogue so easy and enjoyable.
One of my favorite films.
Bean should’ve went to Boston and got himself a ring
Seriously. His only shot with the A's was when they were a sneak attack. Once it was clear the big money clubs had caught on, it was over.
What is don't work in sports. A million little things have to go right to win. It took theo epstein to bring viston that ring. He then did the same in Chicago.
@@newyardleysinclair9960 Dodgers have been the best organization in baseball the last 10 years and they only got 1 chip. the most a fan can ask is that their team is competitive and has a chance to win it all. post season baseball is a lottery.
@@bconni2 covid ring doesn't count
@@danielmccurdy862 not really lol. The red Sox used the moneyball plan and won their first world series in a long ass time just a couple of years after bean rejected.
It’s so stupid how good this movie is
Had Billy Beane gone to Boston, he would have won at least five championships with that level of expertise + the funds to make impact roster moves.
This movie used actual scouts to play the scouts, and an actual CEO to play the team owner. Was it trying to show us that we should look at building a cast differently, and that actors are less vital than we thought they were?
Bobby Kotick ruins another employee's dreams while he makes millions!
The board of directors complained this year that his compensation was far and away not reasonable for the level of company gross revenues in 2020-2021.
@@fturla2699 of course, lol
" Necessity is the mother of invention "
Derived from Plato .
why would you invent something nobody needs?
Plato basically out here saying 'everybody living right now has a mother'
ok thx bro
Love this movie
God gotta watch this again
i don't know anything about baseball but Iv'e watched this film 199 times and I love it
Time to get into baseball. Why don't you become a Blue Jays fan?
@@rosenscharf who lol im from the UK no idea
@@markjordan7800 I'm German, so being European is no excuse ;-)
Start of 2023 I Didn’t know anything about baseball but i watched this movies so many times last year. Not only did I start to watch baseball, I became a cubs just cuz🤷🏾♂️😂.
That last scene with the agent reminds me a lot of what happened to Freeman
I feel like this same conversation has been had over and over again for the last 30 years in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization...
I'm old enough to remember when the Pirates were a perennial contender.
How I wish the Yankees had Billy Beane instead of Brian Cashman. Can you imagine what Beane could do with half the Yankees payroll.
Bobby wants to order some death threats before he gets his next bonus in this scene.
This was such a good movie
Great movie. Great scene. Also encapsulates one reason I don’t like baseball anymore.
Making Bobby Kotick says he doesn't have enough money is certainly something...
Ironically this still turns out to be exactly true because analytics combined with smart payroll usage allowed midlevel salary teams to actually go further in October and the big spenders were even more efficient with their money.
isringhousen went on to be an all star and played 11 more years!
Boston upped it to $7.75 million. Beane had Giami for $7.5 million (wanting $8). Funny how so much in the business of baseball in this scene evolved around a difference of $250,000
well in the scene he says, "you're still playing me." I think they were just using him to up their offer from Boston.
"I am just asking you to be OK not spending money which I dont have"
I say that to my daughter like every week
I forgot Bobby Kotick was in this movie,,, awkward timing now... 😅
As a sens fan I love this scene we are the NHL Oakland A's. Build it thru the draft and gut it every 5 years.
At least Melnyk managed to get you that new arena deal. Think about how much worse off the Sens would be without the cap floor
@@Pikabo0 a Luxury Tax would be hard but I think tbh our scouting staff is good enough to find a lot of diamonds in the life. I think a LP would be a great option moving forward. Maybe something like the Lakers have. A Conglomerate, a similar owner and a local investor/investment group that could invest in the organization moving forward.
Brad Pitt was so good in this film
Who’s Bras Pitt?
Being from the Bay Area, its not a small market. Yet the As are a small market team for some reason.
Epic cast. The headliner: Nick Searcy.
Billy: We need money
Owner: I'm only a billionaire, what on earth can I do about it , btw you have 3 stud pitchers that a movie 10 years from now will gloss over, youll be fine lol
Zito and Mulder were pretty damn good in 2002. Zito won 22 and Mulder won 19 games
Also the future AL MVP in Tejada, Eric Chavez and Jermaine Dye...
That the owners are billionaires is irrelevant. The team is a separate business and the owner's net worth is tied up in other businesses and contracts. An owner can't just take money from out of one business and give it to another business without getting value in return; that's called commingling of funds and it's a form of fraud.
The A's were a business, and a business's ability to spend money is restricted by the amount of revenue it brings in and the amount of money it can borrow. The financial position of the owners via other businesses is irrelevant.
Seriously, the pitchers weren’t even mentioned 🤣
@@cisium1184 Steve Balmer does not give a shit if the Clippers lose 100 million dollars a year. Unless you are one of the lucky owners that's had the team for GENERATIONS from back when just regular rich people could afford them, money isn't an issue.
I'm looking for the other clip "Moneyball: We need ball"
the A’s need new ownership
Live footage of Klopp begging fsg to sign someone
My thoughts exactly
Oakland is considered small market? Thought Bay Area was kinda big
Small market baseball salary. San Francisco Giants also cannibalizing Oakland's Bay Area share.
@@RichV20 ah I see.
He had not lost Damon yet....but he pitched it to the owner that way. :)
Wait I just realized, that’s Bobby Kotick lmao.
Rockies fan here 😂 painnnnn
I have a plan Billy
Damon's a Scott Boras client, and Scott Boras knows that his only job is to get the absolute most money he can for his clients. He's a very good agent and he doesn't deal with cut-rate organizations like the A's if he doesn't absolutely have to.
Yeah but I'd rather win on a small market and be a hero for life than win on a big market team and just be another cog in the assembly line.
@@ryancoyte702 Oakland is not a small market. Oakland is one of two baseball teams in the Bay Area.
The Bay Area is the eighth-largest media market in North America. The only reason Oakland is a "small market" baseball team is because their owner chooses to be. Because he doesn't want to spend money to improve the on-field product.
@@katherineberger6329 So the Braves are also in there same with the Astros. I guess so. But if the club was a big market team the owner would be a billionaire and be able to spend money. I know he's hard headed and stuff but come on so the the A's are the Mets before Cohen.
@@ryancoyte702 Why do you think Twins fans are so pissed off at the Pohlads? The Pohlad Companies have billions of dollars in market cap and the Pohlad family themselves have a net worth of $4.6 billion, the fifth-richest owners in baseball, and they spend consistently average to below-average payroll on the Twins every year.
@@katherineberger6329 Yeah some owners are stubborn and don't want to spend money. Some markets are more attractive to spend on than others. I hate that's the way but regional bias is a real son of a gun.
This is a perfect reason why some teams will never win a championship let along get to any playoffs in whatever sport and will continue the drought ownership is the problem.
I watched the movie when it came out but didn't notice the owner in it was Bobby Kotick lol
The guy who plays Steve has dead eyes.
the gm was right though, billy found miquel tejada, carlos pena and nick swisher and tons more he found gems with no money
You know what really sucks about this scene? This is a real team. And this is a true story. And this is exactly how small-market baseball ownership, especially the A’s, operate. “We don’t have any more money” lmao that’s bullshit. Every team has millions to spend. Not everyone is the Yankees, but hey, everyone can at least be maybe the Cardinals?
Every baseball Owner has money it's just a question about how much they care about the team to put it back into the team. A lot of people hate George steinbrenner but nobody can question how much he loved the Yankees.
@@m42679 And that separated him from the CHEAPSKATES in Oakland. Yeah, “The Boss” was a HUGE DOUCHE, but he actually INVESTED in his team.
One of the biggest issues in baseball, and pro sports in general, is it's basically impossible to lose money. So, especially with these small market clubs, the goal is to spend just enough to be "competitive," meaning you finish above .500, but never good enough to get to the playoffs. It keeps the fans engaged while saves the ownership money. So, yeah, it's funny they "never have money" meanwhile make billions a year.
His looks like every team owner lol
Billy should've proposed a mobile game to Bobby.
It’s nice to see that even the best have a really bad day every once in a while.
i knew that was bobby kotick
I get where the owner is coming from though. He knows that this thing is probably a money pit to him and not a real investment so he's trying to have a budget of how much he wants to spend on a hobby. That's probably how he got to being rich enough to afford a baseball team in the first place. Like with ski resorts, the ones that are privately owned are really because the owners have a passion for skiing, not because they are getting rich by breaking even on good years.
Sports franchises increase in value year on year simply by continuing to exist. David Glass bought the Royals for $96 Million in 2000 and sold them for $1.1 Billion in 2019. They are all great investments, it just depends how much the owners care about winning.
Yea every sports league in the USA gets more and more valuable. Look at Spanos and the Chargers, less fans but worth more.. European Soccer is all owned by hedge funds and straight up foreign governments to whitewash their images. They tried the European Super League for a "rich clubs only" type deal but the public backlash was too much.
The end game is just rich people with teams as part of their portfolio who give next to 0 shits about the sport.
Except that sports teams arent money pits. They’re incredible investments that print money for the owners…
This is the core argument about finances in baseball. The owners say that the valuation only matters when they sell and they don’t plan to sell. They tell you to look at the revenue in versus cost out; the profit they make each year is the money folks are asking the to spend. In the moneyball period, I found data showing that the As collected 90 to 110 million dollars a year in revenue. That seems crazy low considering that they must get a cut of the national tv contract as well as revenue sharing.
But if they are collecting $120m a year, that money has to pay all the costs each her, including the salaries.
Who is Brad talking to ? Is this the owner?
why is the blizzard troll in this movie lol
I love when clips are quiet/normal volume and then there's big obnoxious explosion of the stupid channel at the end...
Billy drove into San Francisco. Whoever that was he didn't even live/work in Oakland.
for some reason I can't find part 2 of this video "Moneyball: We Need Ball"
We don't have the money, like when the Pirates were found to be keeping 3 separate sets of accounting books, the real ones and the cooked ones of the IRS and MLB Players Association. The owners gifted themselves and family massive salaries and deducted that from operating income to yield a net-loss for the "Books". I am not saying smaller market teams were not disadvantaged compared to larger market teams but why should large market fan bases, have to suffer for smaller market ones.
This is a little silly and disingenuous..this isn't the nfl with national contracts and centralized planning and marketing..the yankees and red sox plain old have bigger markets, massive local tv deals, great marketing..u think tampa has anything remotely approaching that with a octogenarian fanbase, a non existent stadium scene, zilch for tv revenue, luxury boxes, nothing.. Oakland and Pittsburgh and Cincy are crime ridden cities with small markets and frankly the nfl is obviously the 800 pound gorilla..no one denies owners don't cook books: businesses have done that with unethical but barely legal accounting practices for years.. but to pretend Pittsburgh or Oakland can reasonably can compete with yankees or sox is ludicrous
Bobby Kotick, playing himself, probably
He should have gone to Boston.
Still better than the A's current owner
I think this is the first time I've heard Kotick speak.
Noone was waiting for a quote..
Cinderella runs are built with unconventional thinking and generally are more about playing with passion rather than money.
One thing though the movie never mentions the real reason the A’s were so good during those few years yeah Billy did a lot with a small budget but he also had Harden, Zito and Mulder on the pitching staff.
Don’t forget about Tim Hudson as well
Miguel Tejada and Eric Chavez say hi
Who is Harden?
@@QBAN2010 I think he meant Tim Hudson. Harden was Rich Harden who starred a few years later with Oakland
Harden wasn’t on that team in 2002.
Bobby is in this movie wtf hahah
Aint that bobby kotic??
Oh man, that is so f**ked up ⚡~ Bummer 🥴~ Tell me about it 😔~ Respectfully 🙏~ Thanks 😊
22 years later they’re moving to Vegas
A's owners is to make money. They can never lose money owning a MLB franchise.
Look at that stadium. Could have and should have rebuilt long ago
Money I don't have... Ya right ¬.¬
In Europe there are teams on 5 mil payroll running against clubs on 120 mil. Sooo it could always be worse :D
After the early 70s. I always wondered what an owner with little $ would do to stay competitive.
You win = he agrees to the 8mil, right?
The clip left it kinda ambiguous =p
2:48, With the taxes in California and Massachusetts, I'm surprised Johnny Damon didn't hold out for $9 million 😃
Is that Bobby Kotic?
Certainly is.
All sports aren't played on an even playing field. If a small market team wins its because of gutsy players and luck in that year.
Oh god it’s Bobby Kotick 🤦🏻♂️
Apparently from a Finnish comedian, can I help you means go away. English is a funny language.
Ac milan market strategy 2023, colorized:
As always, if your solution goes near "we need more money" then we aren't interested.
What's sad is the bigger spending teams sadly will always raid the little teams as their farm system. So Boston a big budget team just took the a's analytics & big $$ & finally won. So the a's just help the bigger fish more. Why isn't their a salary cap for every team that's the same ? That's why mid early to mid 90s basketball was so great b/c their was a salary cap. U just could not build super teams cause nobody could make a trade for the big contract.
Will they pay now that they are in vegas?