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    Billy is frustrated with his team scouts when they refuse to change their perspective about building their team. #Moneyball #BradPitt #moviescenes
    Moneyball. Brad Pitt stars in this film about Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane and his attempt to put together a baseball club on a budget by employing computer-generated analysis to draft his players. Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) challenges the system and defies conventional wisdom when his is forced to rebuild his small-market team on a limited budget. Despite opposition from the old guard, the media, fans and their own field manager (Philip Seymour Hoffman), Beane - with the help of a young, number-crunching, Yale-educated economist (Jonah Hill) - develops a roster of misfits…and along the way, forever changes the way the game is played.
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Komentáře • 736

  • @JS-jf7gv
    @JS-jf7gv Před 2 lety +1938

    “If he’s a good hitter, why doesn’t he hit good?”
    I love that line!!!

    • @burner918
      @burner918 Před rokem +22

      Reminds me of a famous chess quote. "It is not enough to be a good player... you must also play well" - Siegbert Tarrasch

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton Před 8 měsíci

      So many batting practice Babe Ruth's that were useless, Travis Snider. I knew it, slow swing, couldn't hit an MLB fast ball to save his life. But the Shithead Toronto scouts just watched BP.

    • @poodypooroo
      @poodypooroo Před 3 měsíci +3

      Hello Glayber Torres

    • @richardcalisi9188
      @richardcalisi9188 Před 3 měsíci +1

      that line cracks me up.

  • @makonnentendaji
    @makonnentendaji Před 2 lety +1882

    "ugly girlfriend...means no confidence" = greatest piece of baseball wisdom ever

    • @Amethyst_Friend
      @Amethyst_Friend Před 2 lety +142

      The whole point of the scene is that this kind of subjective analysis will not help them.

    • @JerryMetal
      @JerryMetal Před 2 lety +33

      Isnt he right about that though?

    • @Amethyst_Friend
      @Amethyst_Friend Před 2 lety +66

      No

    • @mrskinszszs
      @mrskinszszs Před 2 lety +21

      @@JerryMetal yes

    • @michaelgove9349
      @michaelgove9349 Před 2 lety +60

      @@JerryMetal Not necessarily. Ugly girlfriend could mean genuine confidence - i.e. the confidence not to need to prove yourself to other guys by subjecting your romantic relationships to their analysis. Real issue is, most Americans don't even know what genuine confidence is - so conditioned are they to the myth of confidence as extravert fronting-up to cover your socially-programmed fears.

  • @c.j.1089
    @c.j.1089 Před 2 lety +2861

    Great scene. The purpose of this scene is to show the "old school" baseball mindset. You hear a lot of nonsensical terms, "classic swing," "pops off his bat," "got the looks." It gives the viewer an immediate understand of what Billy is up against.

    • @stevencoardvenice
      @stevencoardvenice Před 2 lety +42

      Hockey is also a superstitious sport

    • @cynthiahusband106
      @cynthiahusband106 Před 2 lety +26

      @C.J. Exactly --agree with you completely , to get rid of the “old mindset” what a tough thing to do…. And to introduce “let the computer do the thinking for you in picking the right players doing what their best at” so hard to do, but Pitt stands firm in the new concept , thanks to Jonah Hill, great scene.

    • @RumbleFish69
      @RumbleFish69 Před 2 lety +48

      Sure, it's a good scene and it conveys the message that Billy was going up against dinosaurs; we got that. Great scene, but it's not a realistic scene - and it's not how it really happened.
      Before anything, no smart general manager will completely disregard his talent scouts. The truly unrealistic part of this scene is that any major league ball club, after being gutted of their best players, would not look to get back in the hunt immediately after losing their players. They would consider their next upcoming season a wash, begin a rebuilding season, and then look three seasons out to begin competing hard again.
      Realistically, this scene should have contained a lot of dialogue regarding their farm system and acquiring guys who had potential, and then sending them down in order to get their bat-time and begin the process of building future stars. If the guy can hit, but doesn't hit good, then you send him down to Triple- A and get him his at-bats! It's basically the same thing that Minnesota did with Miguel Sano; except in that case, Minnesota screwed up and kept Sano down in the minors too long!

    • @bryanrussell6679
      @bryanrussell6679 Před 2 lety +66

      I liked the thought process behind the ugly girlfriend. I think he's really onto something.

    • @meodreadgaming4084
      @meodreadgaming4084 Před 2 lety +18

      @@RumbleFish69 depends how you're looking at it. Billy Bean did argue with the scouts quite a bit because frankly to solve the long term issue he faced (lack of money) he had to think different.
      This doesn't mean fire every scout but it does mean something new. Advanced analytics in this case.
      Bean has said that while this specific scene did not occur, similary conversations did happen. Its not that scouts are useless however it does mean they need augmentation.

  • @nathankirkpatrick1082
    @nathankirkpatrick1082 Před 2 lety +592

    The guy who plays brady is incredibly underrated in this film. He literally matches Pitt and Hill's acting and almost owns the scene in my opinion. he displays annoyance and jealousy so damn well. My brother and I often quote, "That sounds like fortune cookie wisdom to me billy."

    • @stephenlyon1358
      @stephenlyon1358 Před 2 lety

      Baseball sucks, its really sad that you quote such a trash movie.

    • @harktheheral
      @harktheheral Před 2 lety +46

      Ken Medlock is a former minor league baseball player who actually hated the SABR revolution led by James and Tango. He came up in the 70s and never cracked it. So here, 30 years later in his 50s, he's basically playing himself.

    • @PhilAndersonOutside
      @PhilAndersonOutside Před rokem +9

      @@harktheheral True! I believe two of the other guys in that room were also actual MLB scouts!

    • @santiagocarreno5881
      @santiagocarreno5881 Před rokem

      You don't look like a Kirkpatrick to me

    • @bob3007
      @bob3007 Před 11 měsíci

      @@nathankirkpatrick1082 that's not a picture of you is it? i bet it's someone you don't like and you're fishing for insults to give you ammo for making fun of the guy
      it's diabolical and i love it

  • @jerseykaari
    @jerseykaari Před 2 lety +523

    Among the reasons I loved Moneyball (historical inaccuracies aside) was the great acting on every level.
    These scenes with the scouts in particular, you forget that all of these guys are just actors, but they all act like they've lived, breathed and died the parts. Just so many fantastically acted scenes throughout.

    • @bobbabai
      @bobbabai Před 2 lety +67

      A bunch of the scouts were actual scouts, apparently.... From IMDB:
      During a 2014 interview on the National Public Radio program "Fresh Air," director Bennett Miller said that almost all of the scouts depicted in the movie were also played by actual scouts: "Most of those guys are just scouts and there's a couple of actors in there. You know, we were just researching it and trying to get a sense of what these meetings are like and invited a whole bunch of scouts to just talk to us about how they approach things and you know, what these kinds of meetings are. And we brought, I don't know, probably 20 guys together when we were prepping the film and just to have a round-table discussion and to reenact something and we just stirred it up and watched it go, and you know, sitting with Brad Pitt and we'd just look at each other and wonder, why are we trying to cast actors? Let's just invite these guys back and let's just say--we'll just tell them to study that season and say, you're working for the A's and how would you go about it? And you know, that sort of in a hybrid with the script, written by Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin, just sort of brought it to life."

    • @junosynth
      @junosynth Před 2 lety +15

      @@bobbabai That's awesome. That's why this scene seemed so natural.

    • @LeoLarrosa1987
      @LeoLarrosa1987 Před 2 lety +7

      Real scouts acting not actors playing scouts

    • @Threadoflength
      @Threadoflength Před 2 lety +20

      @@LeoLarrosa1987 the Armageddon effect: It's easier to teach a scout to act than to teach an actor about scouting :P

    • @XLRAshon
      @XLRAshon Před 2 lety +22

      The head scout; Grady, the actor was in real life a pro baseball player who even while playing this role and after the film's release said that Billy Beane ruined baseball. Talk about a genuine performance

  • @TheDeFiler316
    @TheDeFiler316 Před 2 lety +68

    Every time Bill says "Then what the fuck are you talking about man?!" I always lmao. It was the absolute perfect response.

  • @brucemcleod4897
    @brucemcleod4897 Před 2 lety +174

    "Who's Fabio?"
    Gets me every time.

    • @Fivedaysncounting
      @Fivedaysncounting Před 2 lety +17

      Hes a short stop..

    • @twelveshepherd9331
      @twelveshepherd9331 Před 2 lety +11

      For Seattle

    • @scottfairbanks759
      @scottfairbanks759 Před 2 lety +9

      @@twelveshepherd9331 Lol, it's like the kind of dialogue you'd hear on the Sopranos. A total disconnect between old school and new school.

    • @jbing65
      @jbing65 Před 2 lety +3

      was there laughter in the background from some production people? sounds like a woman's laughter.

    • @renee6524
      @renee6524 Před 2 měsíci

      I love how he just drops his head in response to that like it just keeps getting more ridiculous.

  • @herbiewares8770
    @herbiewares8770 Před 2 lety +318

    you can see billy's despair after they start talking about his gilfriend

    • @EyeTunz
      @EyeTunz Před 2 lety +9

      Very perceptive.

    • @samo917
      @samo917 Před 2 lety +1

      its actually a good point

  • @DW-rs1pr
    @DW-rs1pr Před 2 lety +1041

    The last guy was actually right. He said they needed more runs. Thats fundamentally what Billy is looking for

    • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
      @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 2 lety +76

      Correct! However he wasn’t trying to obtain those runs through conventional methods… He refused to overpay any “specialists” like lead off hitters (Damon) or any sluggers (Giambi). He wanted to generate runs by simplifying the game. Just focus on getting players on base. The name on the back of the jersey was irrelevant. The more they turn the bases, the more points the team will get, which should give the team more wins. It was a smart choice to build the athletics this way, given the economic climate the team had, and still has to this day. It was mixing economics, analytics and baseball into a ‘Frankenstein’ baseball organization.

    • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
      @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 2 lety +31

      And for the record, I am not an Athletics fan. I just respect the methods. I work in analytics and understand the power of statistics.
      Besides, my team used ‘sabermetrics’ to end the curse of the bambino. So, I will always be great-full to Billy Beane for creating such a powerful tool.

    • @DW-rs1pr
      @DW-rs1pr Před 2 lety +6

      @@PRYVTgomerPYLE I also watched the movie... 😂 It was pretty straightforward lol

    • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
      @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 2 lety +7

      @@DW-rs1pr not to all. Some that are young may not understand. Some that are ‘slow’ may not understand…
      That and there are people who haven’t seen the movie at all, they may be interested in knowing what it is really about.

    • @DW-rs1pr
      @DW-rs1pr Před 2 lety +10

      @@PRYVTgomerPYLE haha you're exactly what your comments portray. You're trying to sound smart on a concept that is elementary. Anyone who's seen the movie or read the Wikipedia page of the story could easily grasp the whats going on. Calling people slow when you're actually demonstrating your lack of intelligence by lengthily describing a well known and simple concept.

  • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
    @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 2 lety +789

    "Who is Fabio?"
    "He's a short stop... He's a short stop from Seattle."
    Probably the best scene in this movie!

    • @jaironunez7196
      @jaironunez7196 Před 2 lety +3

      😂😂😂😂

    • @coryCuc
      @coryCuc Před 2 lety +10

      How the hell did I miss that line? lol. Fraeking hilarious.

    • @WillieTorres5
      @WillieTorres5 Před 2 lety +6

      Might be a stretch, but a reference to ARod? Can’t remember if he left this year or not.

    • @paulmaher5479
      @paulmaher5479 Před 2 lety

      100%

    • @ZeeZee9
      @ZeeZee9 Před 2 lety +2

      Mine as well lol. I love that the oldest guy asked it, too. He was so cute.

  • @emmettredding1
    @emmettredding1 Před rokem +78

    I had to explain to my wife once why I find this particular scene so damn funny...aside from all the great one liners being tossed back and forth across the table, it's so funny to me because I have lived out this scene many times at my own place of employment...it's so true to real life. A bunch of guys made up of young and old, sitting around a room trying to diagnose a problem with the youngsters wanting to try something new and the old timers wanting to follow what has worked in the past with each side explaining their position by sharing stories that is TOTALLY UNRELATED and has absolutely no bearing on the current situation. It's amazing what some will say to prove that their solution is the best course of action.

    • @larrote6467
      @larrote6467 Před 6 měsíci +1

      transltaion: "I have no vision"

  • @leo29hornsfan
    @leo29hornsfan Před 2 lety +299

    Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill, Chris Pratt, Ken Medlock, Phillip Seymour Hoffman all did outstanding jobs in their rolls. This movie is my favorite baseball movie of all time.

    • @mikeglaser7531
      @mikeglaser7531 Před 2 lety

      Sandlot, Rookie of the year, The Natural, Field of Dreams

    • @HarryBalzak
      @HarryBalzak Před 2 lety +1

      @@mikeglaser7531 Major League, FTW.

    • @mikeglaser7531
      @mikeglaser7531 Před 2 lety

      @@HarryBalzak shhhhiiiitttttt can't believe I forgot about that. Thank you! WILD THING!!

    • @albertsandberg
      @albertsandberg Před 2 lety +1

      That Tom Selleck one.

    • @brabbit3389
      @brabbit3389 Před 2 lety +2

      @@albertsandberg Mr baseball- I like Bull Durham best- I’d put major league and moneyball in the mix and have some great memories as a kid going to watch league of their own with my big sis

  • @-Muhammad_Ali-
    @-Muhammad_Ali- Před 8 měsíci +11

    I love the sense of psychologial war in this one. The scouts are like those tough wolves who are taking it too seriously and are allergic to the top management's attempt to get into their "yard". The talks, concentration, the feeling of brotherhood among the old styled scouts. Their appearences. I just love the setting.

  • @TonyPerez816
    @TonyPerez816 Před 2 lety +32

    "HEy old guys- Throw out as many baseball cliches as you can in 30 seconds- GO!!!"-
    Mission accomplished.

  • @Sisyphusquit
    @Sisyphusquit Před 8 měsíci +5

    "An ugly girlfriend means no confidence." that is such an amazing analysis. lol

  • @markseabolt5959
    @markseabolt5959 Před 2 lety +413

    Key leadership lesson here: you as the leader may see the problem clearly, but if your employees are old, they won’t know who Fabio is, so you need to fire them.

    • @jerroldkazynski5480
      @jerroldkazynski5480 Před 2 lety +13

      Yeah, maybe. Or, like the firm where I spent 9 years, you have regular skull sessions, retreats, etc to spread the new ideas around, try them out, educate across the board (young-old).

    • @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock
      @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock Před 2 lety +3

      They're 6s at best

    • @javi7449
      @javi7449 Před 2 lety +9

      He’s a shortstop from Seattle

    • @jedensnow1084
      @jedensnow1084 Před 2 lety +3

      He can't fire those guys, those guys are cheap

    • @LarryDickman1
      @LarryDickman1 Před 2 lety +2

      Everyone knows who Fabio is. He runs the numbers and collects protection money for the mob.

  • @danielplainview926
    @danielplainview926 Před 2 lety +741

    Analytics certainly impacted the game. However , the scouts seem portrayed as incompetent. The A's had 3 best pitchers in baseball (Zito, Mulder, Hudson). And an all star in Miguel Tejeda. All of them developed by the scouting department, before sabermetrics. It wasn't all "misfit players" on the A's teams. It was a combination of technology and experienced scouts.

    • @thekosster94
      @thekosster94 Před 2 lety +59

      Seemed more like they were all arrogant and only believed in their system.

    • @notoriouseagle1074
      @notoriouseagle1074 Před 2 lety +39

      3 best pitchers? Pedro Martinez would like to have a word.

    • @scottthomas5907
      @scottthomas5907 Před 2 lety +11

      The scouting system definitely works. But Grady was portrayed as an ah.

    • @capnpaco
      @capnpaco Před 2 lety +108

      The movie exaggerates to get the point across.

    • @jerryx3253
      @jerryx3253 Před 2 lety +82

      The point is not that the scouts don’t work. It’s that they are spending way too much money on versatile player builds instead of the least money on special player builds. Remember the team is bleeding money, so if any missteps were to happen with the scouts’ preferred build, shitstorm would occur.

  • @kylorenkardashian79
    @kylorenkardashian79 Před 2 lety +23

    "who's Fabio?"
    ""I think he's the shortstop from Seattle..""

  • @Zoggosh
    @Zoggosh Před 2 lety +36

    "He's the kind of guy who walks into a room and his dick has already been there for two minutes." Shit always gets me laughing

  • @jomama9203
    @jomama9203 Před rokem +10

    "Who's Fabio?" "He's a shortstop for Seattle" LMAO

  • @mathiasv2578
    @mathiasv2578 Před 2 lety +8

    the old timer..."whos fabbbioo???" lmao, love it!

  • @rotoninja
    @rotoninja Před 2 lety +8

    I love the lead scout's condescending look @00:29.

  • @roln7s463
    @roln7s463 Před 2 lety +133

    Pitt was great in this movie 🍿

    • @SPQSpartacus
      @SPQSpartacus Před 2 lety +8

      I once claimed Pitt was hugely underrated, due to being considered a pretty face. Moneyball was one of my prime examples. I recieved some scorn, but an Oscar later I believe we are both redeemed.

    • @antonvrb1510
      @antonvrb1510 Před 2 lety +4

      Agreed. The bastard is not only pretty but a brilliant actor too. Poor taste in women in my opinion but i had to look for a flaw didnt i.

    • @northernboy7272
      @northernboy7272 Před 2 lety +1

      Amazing actor. He was great in Snatch

    • @bobbabai
      @bobbabai Před 2 lety

      Best he's ever been

    • @mskidi
      @mskidi Před 2 lety

      @@SPQSpartacus Bullshit. With the exception of Kalifornia, and a small part in True Romance, Pitt was between awful and just passable for his whole career up until he was around mid40s. That point on, he somehow gained control of the craft and has given memorable performances.

  • @FaithFilled1111
    @FaithFilled1111 Před 7 měsíci +5

    "50 feet of crap then there's us"
    LOL

  • @interestedparty7523
    @interestedparty7523 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Making the hearing aid visible was no accident.

  • @alpacoman6864
    @alpacoman6864 Před 2 lety +57

    Love how the guy with the hearing aid says “when he hits the ball you can hear it through the whole ball park”

    • @ZeeZee9
      @ZeeZee9 Před 2 lety

      Lol

    • @superguy183828
      @superguy183828 Před 2 lety +5

      Literally, it's because he's old. Which plays into showing the "old school baseball" mentality Billy was up against.
      But figuratively, they're deaf to what Billy is saying. They can't hear what he's trying to say.
      It's a good movie.

    • @ZeeZee9
      @ZeeZee9 Před 2 lety

      @@superguy183828 Wow you think? Totally missed the joke. We already know what you wrote.

  • @zacharyheflin6794
    @zacharyheflin6794 Před 2 lety +45

    I don’t even watch baseball but this movie makes me wanna manage a team.
    Every scene is just so good !!

    • @kenoliver8913
      @kenoliver8913 Před 2 lety +2

      I've never seen a baseball game in my life; don't even know most of the rules. Cricket is my game (it's just as obsessed with statistics BTW). But it doesn't matter - it's SO good that this is one of the greatest movies about any sport. Like The Social Network I think its Aaron Sorkin's scripted dialogue that makes it so good.

    • @sethderusseau3429
      @sethderusseau3429 Před rokem

      Fantasy Baseball.

  • @coachchrisekwueme
    @coachchrisekwueme Před 2 lety +262

    "I'm just saying tho... His girlfriend is a 6 at best"

  • @bastlake
    @bastlake Před 2 lety +179

    Are these scouts good at their job? Inherently, yes. So why push back against Billy? Why keep doing the same old stuff while their team is at the bottom? Job security. Don't take risks, don't get fired. The players come and go. The scouts get paid to facilitate that.

    • @antr7493
      @antr7493 Před 2 lety +21

      lol
      Can he hit?
      Well he has a beautiful swing LOL

    • @ihicccup8066
      @ihicccup8066 Před 2 lety +4

      The A’s were pretty good before this. And they lost a lot of their hitting but their pitching was still phenomenal. There were already doing a pretty good job actually. Billy just stepped it up a notch with the Bill James stuff

    • @JarrodHenry
      @JarrodHenry Před 2 lety +5

      @@user-otzlixr This movie is a great movie but took a lot of liberties with how it went down in order to create tension and drama. Almost everyone in the A's organization was 100% aware of and behind what Beane was doing

    • @Alvan81
      @Alvan81 Před 2 lety +4

      @@JarrodHenry Liberties to create drama is what a Movie is, tho right?!! Otherwise we just watch a Ken Burns Documentary.......

    • @EverettWilson
      @EverettWilson Před 2 lety +1

      Billy didn't have a solution to the problem in this scene. Why expect them to?
      And when he had a solution later, it wasn't founded in actual reality or experiments that they could see. Why assume it'd work?
      It was a huge risk to try it.

  • @dickfister5081
    @dickfister5081 Před 2 lety +108

    Pitt was so damn good in this. The edgy, nasty cvntiness about his character. Terrific. When he's cast in the right role, hits it out of the park. (Pun intended...)

  • @bmkeesee
    @bmkeesee Před rokem +2

    The guy saying “he can really hit it, you can hear it pop all over the park” with hearing aids on 😂😂

  • @stephendavis6261
    @stephendavis6261 Před rokem +5

    I don't follow baseball, haven't watched a full game ever - but this is one of my favorite movies lol

  • @oscarsanchezmendoza2274
    @oscarsanchezmendoza2274 Před rokem +2

    "who's Fabio?" - "He's a shortstop, he's a shortstop from Seattle.." great scene, love this film!

  • @JonOroMusic
    @JonOroMusic Před 2 lety +2

    I just rewatched this. These clips make me want to watch again.

  • @diulikadikaday
    @diulikadikaday Před rokem +7

    I'm a marketing manager and I've seen this situation in real life. Essentially one camp who wants to keep doing the same thing but doing it better. They want an evolution. On the other side are those that want to change and re-think the whole approach. They want a revolution.
    One isn't better than the other. I've seen "brave" people throw the baby out with the bath water and seen the company commit suicide. I've also seen "optimistic" brands slowly die as the market passes them by and execs feel like "we'll get them next year".
    The only difference is, like in Moneyball, do you have the stats, figures and facts to back up your opinion. Or do you just have your own opinion, authority, experience and hunches? If you want to fight for your strategy, never bring a hunch to a data fight.

  • @jnsaudio81
    @jnsaudio81 Před 2 lety +9

    The writing in this movie is choice!!! Pitt does do a good job on the delivery for sure!!

  • @mrharvy100
    @mrharvy100 Před 2 lety +48

    You can feel the frustration from Brad Pitt

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 Před 2 lety +197

    if he's a good hitter why doesn't he hit good?
    this is such a simple and stupid phrase but I've seen it repeated probably 100+ times in rookies over the time I've watched baseball. I could probably name you 50 Cubs just by themselves.

    • @gastonmannlicher8077
      @gastonmannlicher8077 Před 2 lety +2

      Josh Vitters comes to mind.

    • @ChairmanMeow1
      @ChairmanMeow1 Před 2 lety

      @@gastonmannlicher8077 Cubs fan too? I really could list off 50 guys probably lol. Felix Pie!

    • @bradmurray1736
      @bradmurray1736 Před 2 lety +2

      I get that but as a Cardinals fan I've seen late bloomers when it comes to hitting. Batted ball data can help explain this a little bit. But yeah if a guy isn't crushing the ball In A ball he won't hit in the majors either

    • @andrewjazdzyk1215
      @andrewjazdzyk1215 Před 2 lety

      Ha ha reminds me of the jags passing on Hutchinson this year un football. Though of course maybe that works out for them.

  • @YankeeVatnik1917
    @YankeeVatnik1917 Před 2 lety +3

    Love sports not a big baseball guy but this is honestly one of the best sports movies ever.

  • @joefausti973
    @joefausti973 Před 10 měsíci +5

    This was an A+ movie and one of the best sports films you can watch. I definitely believe that Moneyball can work, but much more on a limited basis. By that I mean there are only so many Scott Hatteberg types out there to be had. If most of the small market clubs (and even mid-market clubs) are rolling with this approach on any given off-season, there probably wouldn't be enough Hatteberg's/hidden gems to go around to every club looking for OBP.
    Unfortunately, there's a hard reality for those of us who choose not to wear a Yankees or Dodgers cap every summer. There's still a certain amount of truth to the old saying that you get what you pay for. Even though the Yankees haven't won a World Series in almost 15 years, the Astros, Braves and Dodgers have been successful and run on high payrolls.
    But even if you're Brian Cashman and have the power of a brute check, there's still something to learn here. Even if you're a GM that does have the green light to sign a high priced free agent, there's still a place for this type of philosophy in your organization. Especially when it comes to evaluating and drafting your minor league players.
    There are certain characteristics that get overlooked (or even ignored) that determine a player's value, and it doesn't really mean that the scouts have suddenly become expendable. It just means you should always be evaluating your own methods of how YOU evaluate...there's always room for improvement.
    Unfortunately, I tend to think there are many more Grady's out there among the scouts than there are of the Peter Brand's.

  • @piquitomonoloco
    @piquitomonoloco Před 2 lety +3

    I love the witty dialogue exchange between them. Really engaging

  • @bgrady24
    @bgrady24 Před 2 lety +26

    “Who’s FAB-E-OH?”

  • @babyseals4872
    @babyseals4872 Před 2 lety +11

    What I find interesting in this scene is I can imagine being billy and just saying “alright you guys are the experts go get ‘em”. It takes a lot of confidence to go against the grain and tell “experts” they are part of the problem. Not an easy thing to do

    • @pauldow1648
      @pauldow1648 Před 2 lety

      Yes. It's a rare experienced professional who recognizes it's time to shift gears, see new light, drop old habits.... Do what it now requires......

    • @babyseals4872
      @babyseals4872 Před 2 lety

      @@lostalone9320 well just look at everything in the world that our experts get wrong more than right. You’d think a game would be easier to predict outcomes but maybe it’s harder due to the higher prevalence of random variables….

    • @hansdevries9741
      @hansdevries9741 Před rokem

      @@lostalone9320 what most people don’t realise is that in pro sports, you see the people who actually made it. That’s less than 5% (that’s being generous) of people/kids who try at becoming a professional athlete. Of those, the vast majority do not make it long term. There is a ocean of people who ‘had it’ that didn’t make it.
      That’s how wrong scouts are. They are as wrong as professional traders compared to a Gorilla picking random stock.

  • @robertmorris8997
    @robertmorris8997 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm glad I found out that Fabio is a shortstop from Seattle.

  • @nickfunkhouser550
    @nickfunkhouser550 Před 2 lety +48

    I love this movie. It literally looks and sounds like Brad Pitt was put in a room with the entire front office of an MLB org.

    • @ShawnPack
      @ShawnPack Před rokem +2

      Considering that a lot of those guys at the table aren't actors, but actual MLB scouts/staff, this is accurate. Great movie, great scene.

  • @rick_thunder
    @rick_thunder Před 2 lety +3

    “I’m tellin’ ya, his girlfriend is a 6 at best.”
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @stacking4life86
    @stacking4life86 Před rokem +2

    Grady: "You give him 400 at bats he is gonna get better!"
    Avg MLB fan on his couch: "ME TOO!!!"

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem +1

      Except sometimes it doesn't work. I'll give you 2 words that prove that: Dom Brown. Look him up.

  • @neonjoe529
    @neonjoe529 Před 2 lety +45

    Who’s Fabio?
    Shortstop for Seattle
    Always makes me laugh

  • @souless08
    @souless08 Před rokem +1

    "who's Fabio?" = DEAD LMFAO

  • @ggarfias81
    @ggarfias81 Před rokem +5

    Pitt’s face at 3:06 has me dying 😂😂

  • @ironcito1101
    @ironcito1101 Před 11 měsíci +2

    "Why don't you just let us be responsible for replacing Giambi with who we know that can play?"
    Because you're not looking at who can play. You're looking at the guys' looks, girlfriends, attitudes and square jaws.

  • @poohbeartube
    @poohbeartube Před 2 lety +8

    I work in IT, and have since before it was even called IT (Data Processing, MIS, IS, etc). I've had the experience to be the first person hired by some prestigious "old money" corporations and companies and have encountered this resistance to progress. I recall hearing "Don't put one on my desk" (a PC) and "We don't do that here" and "This is how we've always done it (and we're not going to change). I've seen the same mindset in state government. Once an organization is established and successful, there is incredible resistance to progress. Some people are blinded by their own mental blocks. There are reasons for tradition and reasons for change.

  • @RedMcc
    @RedMcc Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love how the guys lean on their experience but what result at that point did it get them? They sucked at their job, Billy knew it.

  • @teamvoldemort6114
    @teamvoldemort6114 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing mindset that places emphasis on properly defining the problem applies to all fields of work. Just making the connection to the Marine Corps Planning Process that similarly places huge importance on properly defining what the problem is early on.

  • @turtlesploodgegaming3123
    @turtlesploodgegaming3123 Před 2 lety +18

    I love this scene. Wish I could have been in the room when the reality took place. Damn.
    Its hard going against the grain.

  • @wolvves4293
    @wolvves4293 Před 2 lety +12

    0:49 that's a dangerous game he's playing having two identical coffee cups next to each other, one with coffee and one with spit

    • @bilalc4415
      @bilalc4415 Před 2 lety +1

      That’s all I thought about. Not even a “oops grabbed the left one by mistake” moment lol

    • @gapjunction11
      @gapjunction11 Před 2 lety

      I was wondering: What's it with all the spitting in this movie? What do they spit out? Are they chewing anything?

    • @joeblow8379
      @joeblow8379 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gapjunction11 Dip tobacco, finely ground cured tobacco

    • @wolvves4293
      @wolvves4293 Před 2 lety

      @@gapjunction11 dip is a pretty common (or was) thing for baseball players to do whilst playing.

  • @Jondsmusic
    @Jondsmusic Před 6 měsíci +1

    These old fools are a timed in a digital world. They’re what used to be. I’m glad they’re outdated and Billy’s way of looking at things was right and levels the entire playing field.

  • @joshuasteele4498
    @joshuasteele4498 Před 5 měsíci

    I love the scene and the movie as a whole.
    Even so, I wonder how close to reality this series of exchanges actually was.

  • @dChad014
    @dChad014 Před 7 měsíci

    I like how they defend Geronimo not being able to hit by saying after 400 at bats he'll be better, but balk at the idea of teaching someone first base

  • @luiscastillo7009
    @luiscastillo7009 Před 2 lety +2

    "who's Fabio?".. best line in the whole movie

  • @00Noontide
    @00Noontide Před 2 lety +2

    There's this tention between the cup he uses to spit in and the cup he uses to drink coffee.

  • @bryanrussell6679
    @bryanrussell6679 Před 2 lety +6

    Grady knows how to make you really dislike him, lol.

  • @icarus8471
    @icarus8471 Před rokem +1

    In his entire career Billy Beane's teams managed to win a single playoff series. Just one.

  • @theMull90
    @theMull90 Před 8 měsíci

    Really sums up how a lot of back room sports management worked in the 80s and early 90s as the media became more involved, not just in baseball, but soccer over here in Europe, in A Football, in basketball, etc. etc. These scouts would often care more about how a guy "looked" while he played or what a combine result stat from 4 or 5 years ago read, instead of looking at his last season's or 5 game's results read. They would care about his "ugly girlfriends" and whether he had a "nice looking swing" that "hit good, even if he did not in fact " hit good". etc etc.

  • @DrGalazkiewicz
    @DrGalazkiewicz Před 2 lety +2

    Can’t believe this movie came out ten years ago already!

    • @smoothALOE
      @smoothALOE Před 2 lety +1

      It’s aged so well, too. I like it better now than I did in 2011.

  • @sempermilites87
    @sempermilites87 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It amazes me how they have no issue bringing in players who can't hit well or even can't hit a curve ball while later on, the scouts have a problem with bringing in players who don't know how to play first base and needed to be taught.

  • @smoothALOE
    @smoothALOE Před 2 lety +1

    “Who’s Fabio?” 😂

  • @LGKids
    @LGKids Před rokem

    Moneyball has to be the brother or cousin to the movie Primary Colors! The lines in each movie are pure gold! Peace!

  • @miamivlad
    @miamivlad Před rokem +1

    “Who’s Fabio?” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @flytamers7957
    @flytamers7957 Před rokem +10

    I rewatched this scene for 20+ times. And then I realized how much information scouts have gathered about personalities of the players. Every scout knows even about girlfriends of each player. But this bunch of information was declined by the Moneyball approach. It worked previously

  • @HealthWealthRelationships700

    "he's got a ugly girlfriend" so this is how my favorite sports teams decide who to pick? LOL!

  • @King24Chicago
    @King24Chicago Před rokem

    "Fabio is a short-stop" 😂😂🥴😂😂

  • @Maganor
    @Maganor Před rokem

    “Like we are looking for Fabio” 😂😂😂😂

  • @jameysummers1577
    @jameysummers1577 Před 3 měsíci

    It's like a bunch of paps sitting at the table talkin baseball.

  • @BlazblueFan
    @BlazblueFan Před 2 lety +2

    I don't even understand baseball but I really enjoyed this movie.

  • @88mphDrBrown
    @88mphDrBrown Před 2 lety +4

    This scene has multiple great. "You guys are saying the same old good body nonsense, like we're trying to sell jeans or looking for Fabio"
    "Could we afford him?"
    "No"
    "Then what the fuck are you talking about man?" 😆 🤣 😂

  • @jameysummers1577
    @jameysummers1577 Před 3 měsíci

    I love Gradys character. I wish there was more of him in this movie.

  • @harrisumar3099
    @harrisumar3099 Před rokem +5

    1:25-1:33 me telling ramblers when to shut up because they r so annoying
    3:22 Metroman: Then what the FUCK are you talkin' about man? 👏👏I luv that line lol
    I mean my man Brad acted so well in this movie and I luv acting like my man Brad in real life from this classic movie man 🤘🤘

  • @glassarthouse
    @glassarthouse Před 2 lety +5

    This is the classic issue of "nobody knows what the problem is because nobody thinks about the problem." They all exist inside of a mindset that perpetuates the ignorance, but they don't even know it.

  • @HomeDefender30
    @HomeDefender30 Před rokem +2

    His girlfriend is a 6 at best….
    To this day this one still gets me rolling!

  • @InvisibleMinority
    @InvisibleMinority Před 4 měsíci

    Aaron Sorkin is such a brilliant writer. “Who’s Fabio?” “A shortstop.” lol

  • @cyclones101no
    @cyclones101no Před 2 lety +2

    Two movies that stand out in the idea that buying talent doesn't work are Moneyball and Miracle. Great movies

    • @Vossenator
      @Vossenator Před 2 lety +1

      Herb Brooks did recruit talent. He just recruited specific talent to make a team instead of just talent alone.

  • @MrK623
    @MrK623 Před 2 lety +5

    One thing that is never mentioned (besides losing Giambi, Isringhausen, etc.) that this team that won 20 in a row
    was not just a team of patched together cast offs. They had other very good position players and very good pitching. But the movie
    wants you to believe that Billy did it all with math and no name players.

    • @MrK623
      @MrK623 Před 2 lety +1

      They had the MVP Tejada, 34 HR 131 RBIS Chavez 34 HR 109 RBIS Dye 24/86 (and more) Pitchers Zito Mulder Hudson who won 23, 19 and 15 games. My point is they had plenty of stars on that team, and the film makes it look as if they won because he patched together a team of has beens.

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Před rokem +2

      @@MrK623 they were significantly weaker with losing 3 key players to their 2001 season. Had they gone down the old traditional way of trying to replace them and not signed players based on analytics, they wouldn’t have made the playoffs. The Seattle mariners team in their same division had more talent than the A’s team had on paper

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 Před rokem

      @@tombardsley3081 They replaced Isringhausen by trading two players to Toronto for Billy Koch.

  • @AlexanderTovar1
    @AlexanderTovar1 Před 2 lety

    ‘WHOS FABIO???’ Lmao

  • @reachingandreasoning
    @reachingandreasoning Před 2 lety +46

    Who’s Fabio?
    He’s a shortstop, shortstop from Seattle! 🤣

    • @viniciuseneas4036
      @viniciuseneas4036 Před 2 lety +2

      I never understood what that means

    • @reachingandreasoning
      @reachingandreasoning Před 2 lety +20

      @@viniciuseneas4036 Fabio was the male model but the older baseball scouts were so out of touch with things that they thoughts Fabio was in fact a player in the Seattle Mariners organization. It’s just another reason why Beane wanted to change the old way of doing things.

    • @nicholasmartinez3220
      @nicholasmartinez3220 Před 2 lety

      @@viniciuseneas4036 Maybe a dig at A-Rod? Was he with Texas or Seattle at the time?

    • @jonnie5bgood583
      @jonnie5bgood583 Před 2 lety

      @@nicholasmartinez3220 Texas I think

  • @TurdFerguson362
    @TurdFerguson362 Před rokem

    God I know this feeling all too well.

  • @consensualcode9750
    @consensualcode9750 Před rokem +3

    This reminds me of a convo I had with a couple of uncles and elders about the future (African region). They all decided that looks, personal wealth, and great speaking skills are highest priority for selecting future leaders. While I was more concerned about results and acknowledgement of the importance civil liberties. They laughed but atleast we left the conversation respectfully. It was an amazing conversation and revealed alot of what the older generation from my country valued.

  • @samfilmkid
    @samfilmkid Před 2 lety

    Why is this scene so rewatchable?

  • @michaelwarren2391
    @michaelwarren2391 Před rokem +1

    Don't remember if it was in the movie, but the book relates the story of a scout that didn't think a catcher was any good because he was "lumpy".

  • @stevelibby6852
    @stevelibby6852 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Who's Fabio? Underrated line.

  • @nancypigroastineedsfieldslaves

    "who is Fabio.....?"
    "Shortstop.... For Seattle, I think...."

  • @michaelriddick7116
    @michaelriddick7116 Před 2 lety +7

    Everytime you challenge an established orthodoxy, theres conflict.
    Beane had success after forcing the change but he still paid a price for it :/

  • @estebanquinones5918
    @estebanquinones5918 Před 8 měsíci

    Billy: "No thats just logic"
    Random guy: "Whose Fabio?"
    Billy: "........"

  • @yougle9201
    @yougle9201 Před rokem

    Time to watch this movie again.

  • @vinceramirez6963
    @vinceramirez6963 Před 2 lety +1

    “His girlfriend is a 6..at best”
    Savage lol

  • @airt698
    @airt698 Před rokem +1

    Very underrated movie.

  • @variable7833
    @variable7833 Před 6 dny

    This movie has so much heart. Amazing movie

  • @scottthomas5907
    @scottthomas5907 Před 2 lety +45

    I would have fired Grady in the first 2 minutes of meeting him.

    • @alightthatnevergoesout
      @alightthatnevergoesout Před 2 lety +3

      way too stubborn, doesn’t respect anyone else

    • @RealHipHopSince1980
      @RealHipHopSince1980 Před 2 lety +7

      The real Grady was really hurt by the way he was portrayed in the film. If I remember correctly, he and Beane were actually friends and his portrayal caused a fallout between the two that lasted for years.

    • @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock
      @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock Před 2 lety

      Good thing you're not likely to be in the position of firing anybody then, isn't it

  • @BoldWittyName
    @BoldWittyName Před 2 měsíci

    Barry actually had a decent answer and Billy basically just re-hashed his answer.

  •  Před měsícem

    It looks like every meeting is the same all over the world