I am afraid they aren't same. Specifically this Seagate (ST4000DM004) is SMR vs WD (WD40EZRZ) is CMR. So there's a huge difference in drive longetivity. Also when it comes to data recovery, CMRs are much more reliable than SMRs. In laymen terms, data in SMR drives is written in layers, so to fetch data burried underneath, the drive will have to pull data from top layers and store it temporarily in Cache (hence SMR drives have bigger Cache than CMR drives). And while doing so the drive head has to go through a lot of wear and tear which eats up the head life. Moreover, recovering data from damaged SMR drive is more complex and less reliable. Whereas, in CMR drives data is not overwritten so it does not need to dig deeper to fetch data (hence smaller Cache). Less wear and tear on head and data recovery is easy and more chances of recovering data. Hope this helps.
you are correct although the cache is also good for reloading games after first loading, the reloading comes from cache and is very fast, wd black has 256 cache also for this reason
Yeah, honestly, in terms of pricing. They flip flop back and forth during sales where one is always cheaper than the other. In terms of performance, in the long run, it’s not going to make a difference to an average user. If people were looking for performance, I would suggest a SSD.
@DEEJMASTER 333 I must be doing something wrong then. WD Blue 2TB have clicking noise after only 2 months! I didnt even use PC everyday, only like 20 - 40 hours a week. I had some sector probably failed since I found out some data are missing and it had my bios fixing the drive every so often now. Im sure that was a clicking of death, the sound of the Head scraping my disk. What's nuts is, WD Blue cost more than Seagate Barracuda and my 1TB Barracuda have been running for 2 years with no issues.
@@VysairGlad i just bought the Barracuda then. But im truly crossing my fingers.. 😂 i was about to buy their Seagate Exos 7E8 as its said to last over 18 months on server tests. But server drives are NOISY. So i opted between the Blue & Barracuda. Luckely im just gona use it as a game drive for my PS4 Pro, so if it crashes games can just be redownloaded on any of my old 2.5 inch external drives. Just wanted to get an 8GB drive to max out the console, also because Playstation is only allowed to use 1 USB drive at a time which is quite annoying... Anyhoot: so bought a 3.5 inch Deltaco chassis to run the upcoming Barracuda 8GB drive as external drive. The inside is running a Crucial SSD 250GB at present, but might swap it with Samsung Evo 850 laying around from pc.
Went with the Barracuda 4TB to go with a Sabrent 1TB NVME. Honestly just did it cause it was the first I saw, glad to see it was a good pick. Thanks for the informative video!
Thanks for watching! Nice! From what I understand Barracuda is more reliable that WD. Only time will tell! Sabrent 1TB NVME, never heard of that brand. Interesting. I'll have to look that up.
@@TheWongReviewer the Sabrent was quite cheap (I got the Rocket PCIE 3.0 for around CAD$199, there's a cheaper equivalent called the Sabrent Rocket Q for around CAD$169). The somewhat low price worried me at first but it seemed to get excellent reviews and recommendations wherever I checked so I went for it.
@@TheWongReviewer Dude, Seagate has the highest failure rates on the market rn. Also, all their Barracuda products over 1TB are SMR, basically as your drive fills up, it's performance gets slower and slower. WD Blue products ending with a product code "EZRZ" (basically the ones with 64mb cache) are all CMR, so it will sustain that write/read speeds even if it's almost full!
@@sL1NK Thanks for the feedback. I checked and both my Seagate and WD are SMR drives. I actually just upgraded them both to a ironwolf drive which is CMR. In terms of which fails more, based on what you read, one article goes WD, one goes Seagate. It's really a toss up. platinumdatarecovery.com/blog/which-hard-drive-brand-is-the-most-reliable Just back up important info on an external drive and cloud just in case of drive failures.
@@TheWongReviewer Ironwolfs are nice, that's for sure, but pretty pricey. Nice pick though! Also, nvme is a connector type, not a brand, its m.2 pci-e nvme.
I bought 3 hard drive , 2 seagate and 1 WD but unfortunately those 2 seagate drives only last for 1 year but my WD is still alive until now so I would recommend buying WD because this thing has a low chance of failing.
$5 difference to get 190MB/s vs 145MB/s and you'd still choose the 145MB/s because you save $5? Wow.. I'd take the Barracuda's increased speed for a mere $5. I'd make it back many times over in the time I saved of using the Barracuda.
@@desmasic Indeed, I could have misinterpreted Jordan's point. In comparison, Baracuda offers faster speeds, but as I previously stated, I've always found that there's more to it than just higher numbers.
I couldn't decide so I got both. Mainly for storing games on the PC. No need to run them from the SSD. Either way, they are both good drives. These massive HDDs are now worth it since SDDs have become popular. Even the SDDs have significantly gone down in price, so you really cant go wrong with anything you choose.
That's interesting you bought both! I agree with you that bang for the buck, HDDs are worth the price now. I use my NVME drives for OS, Video rendering projects and it works well. I use my HDDs for gaming and have had no issues with performance. THanks for commenting!
@@TheWongReviewerIwas supposed to buy their server drive first Seagate Exos 7E8, but i heard some people complaining on the noise on that. Its a CMR drive so probably faster than Barracudas SMR for most files, but i figured Noise can be a more irritating factor in the living room: Hence why i picked the Barracuda 8TB. 500 Swedish bucks cheaper & free freight than the server drive. We shall see if it last over 2 years now.. 😉
Wow! Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I'm never sure if i'm doing a good job or how I can improve. Comments like these help motivate me to keep doing this. Thanks again. Have a great day and stay safe. Much appreciated.
Bought my WD Blue 1TB in July 2018. Four years later (August 2022) it's still going strong, despite an average daily 8hrs+ of thrashing (due to constant pagefile writes from using a Win 7 system limited to 4GB of RAM) Not sure if I've just been lucky, but either way I tip my hat to the engineers at WD 👍 In contrast, a brand new Seagate Barra-Couldn't I bought a few months ago was dead out of the packet (just a ticking noise). Package was sealed and no sign of it having been dropped. Seagate 🖕
I bought a Seagate that died on me in the first 2 weeks so I've decided that WD is better although this happened several years ago so I don't know if Seagate upped their game since then.
I would choose the WD drive because it uses the older CMR tech while the Seagate uses the newer cost cutting SMR (Shingled magnetic recording ). In SMR, data are sequentially written to shingled tracks just as the roof of a house is shingled. Therefore, SMR does not have the random-access performance of CMR. In the real world if you're running an OS the WD drive will perform better but just for storage the Seagate might seem better at first due to the higher cache memory but will perform much worst while the WD drive has a more predictable and reliable performance. Don't fall for the extra cache memory Seagate is offering. Hope this helps.
Hi there. Thank you for the detailed response. I've been reading alot about SMR and how hard drive makers are starting to cheap out on their products. I mostly use my HDD as storage only and back up of pics and videos, so i prefer reliable over speed for my need. I agree, the cache memory isn't important for me right now.
Thank you, I wanted a HDD just to save media files and I almost fall into the cache trap, I though a little more speed would be good, but I read your comment and I watched some videos to know more about CMR and SMR, and thanks to you I cancelled a segate drive that I've ordered and instead I bought the WD blue for 15 bucks less, thanks dude
I have changed Seagate hard drives every year but the wd I got 10 years back is still rocking. if you want a longer life span go for WD, and you cannot trust Seagate,as I have 5-6 seagate HDDs with me which stopped working. also the other seagate right now is making sounds and it will stop soon.
Thanks for the feedback. Based on other commenters, it appears that WD is more reliable. I replaced my WD with a 8TB ironwolf HDD which is CMR and has a 5 year warranty. I'm hoping that will last me a long time.
I have heard people who both trash Seagate and swear by WD and vice versa mainly because they have had bad experiences with one before. The truth is that both companies have had some really good and really bad drives, and both are generally fine. I would just go for whatever is cheaper, if they're about the same, I'd compare the specs and go for the slightly better one.
I 100% agree with your comment here. I have both a WD and Seagate drive in my machine. No issues with either right now. I've told people they are mechanical drives and can fail at anytime. So to make sure they have a good backup (either cloud or NAS). I agree again with you, whatever is cheaper, just get that one. Great feedback.
Debating between the two, i went with WD Blue, was on sale for 85 bucks, i put my games on the blue and everything else as its serves as storage. Games run pretty good on blue, not insane on load times but it is consistent. Pretty happy with purchase. Seagate definitely owns up with that 40mb/s and larger cache. Blue is well rounded.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and sharing your experience. Glad it’s working out for you. yeah, if people were looking for performance, I would tell them to spend the extra for a SSD.
@@TheWongReviewer 100% SSD is better though. Of course more expensive. But you can get 2TB SDD's now that arent all that expensive, the difference in price of between larger SSD and HDD isn't so great anymore. Question is: is it worth the significant performance degradation by saving relative few bucks to get HDD instead of SSD? Though for just storing your huge video collection or image collections I would still recommened 4TB or 8GB HDD's, but for everything else I'd really buy 2TB SSD's (or possibly 2x1TB SSD's which can sometimes be cheaper) for all applications and games.
Hi Mr. Wong, I have had several external HD made by Seagate 320 GB(2006), 500 GB(2011) and 1 TB(2016). All of them still work fine. I have tons of movie and watch them all the time. I say Seagate makes quality products, thanks for your video.
Right... Seagate products are very reliable ... Also in case of failure they provide excellent customer support... One of my friend's HDD failed and Seagate sent brand new SSD as the replacement to HDD... This is the level of their customer care
@@88pianissimo90 Hey there. Thanks for the comments. I'm glad to hear they had a positive experience with customer service! I hope I don't have to use them.
I ordered a Crucial P2 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD Up to 2400MB/s for my boot drive and to install my OS and for storage i got the 2TB Barracuda this should work perfectly together. I tend to realize that you can get the most out of your storage drive if it’s paired with a SSD with the SSD being the main drive for opening stuff
Hi there, thanks for your sharing. I need a 3.5'" 2 TB to 4 TB SATA HDD for movie or film data storage and attach it to Zidoo Media player for watching movie on TV purpose. The question is which one of the HDD from your review suit that task most? I consider to choose one of Caviar Blue or Barracuda, and also other one from Toshiba PC 300. In term of reliability and long term, which one will you recommend? And for information this HDD, I will put it in Orico multi bay Hard drive enclosure with other HDD from the same Brand.
I use a 3tb we blue for games it's pretty decent, I don't understand why people go for 7200rpm when games on the 5400 rpm drive runs pretty fast in gaming
Thanks for watching. you make an interesting point. I wonder how I would be able to test this theory out for myself. I have NVME, 5400 and 7200 rpm in my current setup. I would like to validate this. Great idea for another video.
For open world games its a big no. Stutter and textures not loaded properly almost happen with any open world games, moving to 7200rpm mostly fixed it, although it did not fully fix the texture load issues because of slow read speed of hdd.
Thanks for watching. Interesting. Thanks for the feedback. Now i'm going to google how the system prioritizes where to write the information to. outer vs inner.. Down the internet rabbit hole i go!
From what I've heard and seen in many articles and videos is how loud and unreliable Seagate Barracuda is. Who knows tho, my old Toshiba lasted me for 5 years currently but it is loud
In my office we still use some HDDs manufactured in 2007, 2011, 2012 and 2016. And all of them doing just fine. No data was lost for years. Mostly we have WD and Toshiba, can't tell right now if we have any Seagates. In my experience, any 3.5" hard drive is reliable enough for ordinary PC users. 2.5" HDSs are much less reliable, no matter what brand it is. In fact, i only once saw 3.5" HDD failed, it was very old disc, can't remember what brand it was, but it was made in 2006 and died in 2020 heavily used. Almost all data was recovered successfully. But i remember 2 or 3 cases of 2.5" HDD failures, but again, all data was recovered, nothing was lost at all. Which is not the case with SSD. I saw once a dead SSD, all data lost - it probably was caused by old PC power supply. SSD still working, but it deleted all data, nothing was recovered.
@@Chastity_Belt I've have quite a few 2.5' that i've had for around 10 years in my desktop PC build. Thing is they're laptop drives so if in a laptop they get tossed around quite a bit, hence lower life expectancy.
Hi there. Great question. Here is a great article explaining the difference between the speeds. pureinfotech.com/difference-5400-7200-rpm-hard-drives/#:~:text=Although%207200%20RPM%20hard%20drives%20are%20without%20a,average%20of%20120%20MB/s%20read%20and%20writes%20speeds. If you're just using the drive to store files, 5400 RPM is fine. If you're using it as your main drive for your OS, than the faster RPM will help.
Hi! I bought this hd and when I went to transfer my 3D blocks to it (700gb - 400+k files) it speed hid a lot, reaching less than 1mb / s and a maximum of 60mb / s if I'm not mistaken ... what made the transfer take MANY hours ... is it really like that or is it defective? Thx!
Hi there. Thanks for watching. That does seem really slow. The biggest move i did was 50GB and the speed wasn't throttled. However, i was moving the file from a NVME drive to the HDD. What are you transferring from? is it another Hard Drive? What are the speeds like for smaller files around 10GB?
@@TheWongReviewer Thanks for the reply! so, I transfer files both from NVME, as well as from my other barracuda (1tb), and also unzipped and moved files internally in the 4tb ... at the first GB of recording, the speed and response seems "normal", but after some operations, the speed is just horrible ... and at this "horrible state" I tried to open a 1.5gb rar and it took more than 2min for the rar window to respond, and then it took almost 25min to unzip !! 25min to unzip 1.5gb!!! This Hdd is terrible ... I should have spent a little more and get the Ironwolf which is CMR and not SMR ... :(
@@PauloFLVasconcelos the drives over 1TB are SMR drives basically in short making them a lot slower since they have to rewrite some data sometimes as the tracks on the disk overlap sorry if this isn't the best explanation but heres a link that explains it better czcams.com/video/aztTf2gI55k/video.html
Hi. Wich one do you think it's better? BarraCuda 2TB 7200rpm 256mb Cache, model ST2000DM008 or WD Blue 2TB 5400rpm 256mb Cache, model WD20EZAZ The WD has 1 year longer warranty. I had one 500gb BarraCuda that i bought in 2016 that died recently and didn't even last 5 years, i'm more inclinated to buy the WD one, what do you think?
Hi there, I would go with the WD Blue. From what i've read in the comments and others, it appears to be more more reliable. I have both drives and they are still working without any issues.
I'd be happy buying either of these makes. I'm upgrading my 2009 PC which has been used pretty much every day for hours each day and has only had a 1TB WD Greenpower HDD in it the whole time. The new PC will have an HDD in it as well, but only for storage this time.
Quick question are these hard drives sector size 4096? Getting one so I can move the OS from my other 4096. I need them to be compatible. Had trouble with some that were size 512
If I'm not wrong the Seagate Barracuda ST4000DM004 used in the video is SMR technology. If so, that's a deal breaker for me. Nice comparison though. Thanks
What about in the laptop? Im using Legion y540 have SSD nvme 512gb and i want add storage for file footage video,foto, and of course game too.. can you help me? Which one i should buy?
Hi There. Thanks for the comment. Do you have money in your budget to purchase a SSD versus a laptop 2.5 HDD. If so, I would recommend the sandisk ultra 3D 1TB. Currently, where i'm living, they are on sale for $150 Canadian. I upgraded 2 of my laptops with Sandisk ultra over the years and never had issues with them. Hope this helps.
@@TheWongReviewer but sir i need just HDD bcz the primary storage SSD nvme more than enough, plis answer my question about Seagate baracuda HDD vs WD blue HDD for file foto editing, video and game too
@@terminaetorgamer3680 Okay, gotcha. I understand your question now. Thanks for clarifying. For Photo editing, the higher cache, I would go with Seagate Barracuda.
i recoment to check the warranty in your country too... here in Brazil, the both disks have the same price, but western digital have 2 years of warranty, versus 1 year to seagate...
I'm building a PC Ryzen 5 3600g. I'm looking for dual channel 2x8gb Ram, Gigabyte B450M D53H, HDD 1 GB and SSD 128gb. Which choice do you think will be the best for the HDD - SSD? Western or Seagate? Thank you. I'm from Perú btw.
Hi there. Based on the feedback i've been getting, it looks like WD seems to be more reliable than seagate. I would stick with WD. Good luck with your build.
Thanks for commenting. Yes, that's a great deal you got there. Honestly, both WD and Seagate uses the same "SMR" technology. Just remember to back up your important stuff to a cloud service. If possible, use a SSD for your OS.
@@MaxRiley Hi there. If you see my later on videos, you'll know that I switched to the Ironwolf HDD which is CMR. From what I read, for archiving stuff, SMR technology is fine.
@@TheWongReviewer No problem . Keep defrag ur drive 3 times a week. Check for drive health . Clean non important files. Turn off ur computer when u afk for long time. Do not put files with virus in it . It will make ur drive clicking . Goodluck bro !!
@@MrZangetsu13 This is one of the more helpful comments i received. I'm going to see if i can incorporate your feedback into a future video on hard drives. Thanks bro. Appreciate it.
I am going to assemble a desktop computer and i wil use Photoshop and corel draw and office 13 so which one is the best hdd in 1tera byte seagate or wd help me plsss
Picked myself a Barracuda 4TB so I never run out of media storage because Seagate products are much cheaper than WD products. I was gonna pick up an Ironwolf pro but this video changed my mind. Paired it with Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB and I'm probably never running out of space for the next 5~6 years with proper storage management.
@@Dazulolwarrior Thanks for commenting. I agree with you. I'm still torn on whether I need one or not. I'm running out of space due to youtube and photography files. I may just opt to get one of those WD 12 TB external drives.
Hmm, does Skyhawk good for storage movie, data, and load some indie game or it has any downgrade compare to barracuda?? Cause the 2tb Skyhawk are way cheaper than barracuda and WD Blue in my country!
Hi there. Here's a great article explaining the difference. linustechtips.com/topic/987357-seagate-skyhawk-vs-barracuda-vs-ironwolf/#:~:text=The%20difference%20between%20these%20drives%20is%20that%20the,and%20Ironwolf%20is%20made%20for%20NAS%27s%20or%20servers.
The Seagate here is an SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording) drive while the WD is a CMR,/PMR (Conventional or Perpendicular Magnetic Recording) drive. I'm surprised that the Seagate here turned in those numbers because SMR drives are notorious for being very slow when writing due to the nature of shingling magnetic tracks, but I guess that applies to rewriting data. The first write could be fast enough. Are these drives still with you and are you still using them? Some say SMR drives perform well initially but as data accumulates and gets fragmented it becomes very slow.
I checked the serial numbers on both, they are both SMR drives. I only use these drives as backup and archive of my youtube videos and photos. So far, they are still working and haven't had any issues.
Thanks man for the feedback. Appreciate it. This made my day. I got trolled on my other videos and it was nice to just get a positive comment today. Have a great day.
Hi there. Thanks for the comment. I haven't done any benchmarking on my own for gaming. It's probably something I will consider doing for a future video. Here's a link explaining the benefits of more cache on traditional HDD : www.pcguide.com/tips/hard-drive-cache/
The Barracuda most definitely is. The WD might be cmr, given the low cash(?) (but there are blues that are smr as well apparently). I'm doing research before buying my next hdd. It's all a bit confusing at the moment.
hello i am looking forward on buying a 2tb model of this hdd. do you have a recomendation on wich to buy? i want my hdd to be running for years to come,to protect my data and not having to buy new hdd every 2 years or so. do you have a recomendation for long term use?
Hi there. Based on other commenters in this video and from what I read online. WD seems to be the more reliable option. Currently, I have both WD and Seagate 4TB installed in my PC for less than a year. I only use it to store video and pictures. I haven't had any issues with them yet.
I have the WD Blue, quite surprised by its performance as I initially thought it was just an ECO drive that would be moderate, but its actually a very nippy drive for a spinny.
i’m thinking about maybe building my own pc but i’m still learning a lot of things and understanding. so i’m on a website pc part picker (i’m also in canada so in cad) and i’m picking parts i think are good and what i want but also in a budget. i’ve read a lot of the comments here and your replies. what’s the difference of using storage for the operating system and for games and stuff? i will have games on my pc if i build one. should i be picking 2 of them, one for the operating system and one for games and storage? what about ssd? should the operating system be using ssd? and hdd for games and storage?
Hi there. Happy to help. I will actually be doing a video to explain hard drive choices in a few weeks. You should have a faster SSD for your Operating System. It can be a 256 GB 2.5 inch SSD or a m.2 NVME drive. Your games can be stored on a standard hard drive , which allows you to be on a budget to store games. My experience games on a HDD is fine, as most are online and depends on your internet connection anyways. Hope this helps. If you have more questions, let me know.
@@TheWongReviewer okay, so a 256 GB for an SSD means it’s fast? is that amount also more than enough for future updates and things? and what is a m.2 NVME drive? is that a type of SSD? also is there more types of HDD? you said standard hard drive, what other ones are there? sorry for so many questions, thank you for your reply! :)
@@geeking101 Hey there. Email me at thewongreviewer@gmail.com. Send me all of your questions and I'll answer you there. It's much easier than typing out in a CZcams comment box. Happy to help you out and answer all of your questions. So email me there and I'll get back to you.
Great review, i was looking at getting the 2tb/4tb seagate barracuda from Canada computers. However when i check the specs for it, it claims that the rpm is 7200. Has it been changed? Or is it actually 5400 and they made a mistake
How hard is nose and vibration on the seagate drive? I own a WD blue 1tb and a SG barracuda 3tb. I want to get rid of the barracuda since it is just SO DAMN LOUD, it vibrates so hard the whole desk vibrates in companion.
Hi there, I have 2 NVME and 1 SSD in my setup. 1 NVME is the OS and the other hard drives are used for photo and video rendering. I use my WD and barracuda as ""storage drives" where i store files of completed projects after I post it on youtube. When i copy a 3GB folder over, i can definitely hear the hard drive clicks from both. However, since i don't use the drives often or need to access info on them, the noise is very minimal and doesn't bother me.
my first hdd was western digital blue 256gb it still living even after ten years, should i buy another western digital products or seagate? cuz seagate have 256mb cache, and western digital only have 64mb cache and it price way higher than seagate...
HI there. Honestly, both drives are the same technology of SMR drives. However, based on user comments, it appears that seagate fails more often than WD. This is antedotal based on commenters. I would lean towards WD.
i read a comment saying the Seagate is using SMR (Shingle magnetic recording), so that's probably why it's thinner, i couldn't find any proof of that yet. SMR is supposed to be worse and yet it's faster, so i don't know...
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Yes, a lot of people have already commented on the Barracuda using SMR. I've been looking into it. I"m not entirely sure if the one I have is SMR. However, i'm using these drives more of a back up drive and not part of my OS. I'm okay if it's not reliable . However it's been about 4 months now and no drive failures yet.
if I just want a HDD for my D:/ to store my pictures and videos to play back , which rpm is better ? 5400 or 7200? (I have a m.2 nvme ssd already ) thanks so much
HI there, if you just want to store pictures and playback, a 5400 is fine. I did a quick experiment of loading pictures and videos between the 5400 and 7200 RPM drives. There is no discernable difference.
@@TheWongReviewer thank you so much for the reply. what if I transfer or copy those pictures(random write) and movies/videos(seq. write) files to HDD, is 7200rpm much better then 5400? or still discernable different?
@@twonatplus Sorry for the delay. Honestly, there is no discernable different. I moved 2GB of files for a test and the 7200 because of the cache was a little faster, however i'm talking about a minute faster, not 5 minutes faster. Honestly, I would go with whatever is cheaper for your purposes if it's meant for archival purposes.
Hi there, based on feedback i have received from others. It looks like WD seems to be more reliable long term. So far, i have both of them and haven't had any issues.
the recording technology for WD Blue 4TB is CMR while for Seagate BarraCuda 4TB it's SMR which makes this video disk brand comparison kind of useless because both companies have models of these drives with the same recording technology . There are two WD Blue 4TB models, the one you are comparing, WD40EZRZ which is CMR and WD40EZAZ which is SMR, it costs a lot less and that's the one you should be comparing with the BarraCuda SMR drive. If you or anyone else here want to find for themselves whether WD Blue 4TB WD40EZRZ is CMR or SMR, contact Western Digital
Hi there. Sorry for the delay. I would have no problems recommending any hard drive to store data. I wouldn't use it as my main Operating system drive.
hey brother yours has 64 mb of buffer but this 4 teras has 256 mb why? It is better than the one you have or it is similar but change the buffer I do not know if you could explain me
hi there. The hard drives in the video have two different buffer. Here's an article that explains a lot better than i can. www.dignited.com/56059/hard-disk-cache/#:~:text=Also%20referred%20to%20as%20%E2%80%9CDisk,and%20from%20the%20hard%20disk.&text=A%20disk%20cache%20uses%20the,to%20bolster%20effective%20disc%20speeds. Real world use. Honestly, it doesn't make that big of a difference unless you're copying GBs of data over.
@@jorgeshutatsumi8770 Okay, I think I understand what you're asking me now. Your model has 256 cache which is better than my 64 cache. You probably just have a different model and I don't think it's a lie.
@@TheWongReviewer this because it seems that it is the same model looks like the one in the video Disco Duro Interno Western Digital WD Blue 3.5", 4TB, SATA III, 6 Gbit/s, 5400RPM, 256MB Caché
HI there. I'm actually going to be doing a behind the scenes video on how I shoot these videos and with what equipment. I currently use a Fuji X-T3 with a 16mm 1.4 lens and a Rhino camera slider. Thanks for commenting and stay tuned for a behind the scenes video.
Which one would you recommend if its for game storage? WdB or Seagate? I really need a new hd for my game, idk which one to buy considering both price are cheap at my place right now.
Either. Doesn't matter. Better to look at pro models or enterprise if you really want more reliability. CMR over SMR. Make backups of important files - ALL drives can fail.
@@shinkimo Thanks again for the comment. I have read a few articles that state you shouldn't use an enterprise drive in a desktop build and to only use them in NAS setup. Do you have any thoughts or experience on this?
@@TheWongReviewer the main reason they state this, is because CRC (cyclic redundancy check). NAS and enterprise drives are set to check some errors they detect for a short time, then go to the raided disk to check again - if not found, it's labeled as a bad sector more quickly. Regular drives will do this check for a long time and I found they can even lock up or scratch the platter. So although they can help to recover something better, I'm not sure it's really worth it. Technology today is much better than it used to be, so there isn't as much chance of errors on drives as in the past. That being said, I'm ok with my drive labeling a bad sector and using the the next good sector over, without rewriting over a bad one (a good reason why CMR drives are better than SMR). In any case, it's why I think backups are good practice. Just about everyone is using Dropbox, google drive, etc now - everyone can redownload movie files, pr0n, etc if they need to 😂🤭.
If I knew modern HDD's were this fast I wouldn't have gotten an SSD. What type of drive were you transferring the data from? Also 25% of the file transfer was at almost 600 MB/s! is that even possible? Loading data on my new MX500 from old hdd was 50mb/s for one and 100mb/s for another. I was using a 12 year old SATA 2.0 pc.
You did right choice with SSD. Start speed is reported wrong, because windows uses free ram as disk cache. You can check in Task Manager the real speed for each drive and see write speed never above 100MB/s for hdd. Second, copying files to ssd from a hard drive is limited to min speed of both, which is hdd speed, like 200MB/s if hdd is old. You were not using ssd fully during copy. Third, ssds have very fast speed for small operations, like copying with 4KB requests. A hdd has 2MB/sec for such requests, an SSD has 70MB/s. This is huge (35x) difference, when extracting zip archives, using databases or many programs at same time that read their files, hdd will almost block for minutes, ssd will run instantly. The sequential speed is just small part of the picture, 4KB speed is the real deal.
i ordered the baracuda to replace my 2 1tb hard drives which i have been using for 10 years or so. the whole tower vibrates since 2 computers with the old hard drives hehe
@@TheWongReviewer No, it vibrates with the old hard drives that I've had in different computers for 10 years or so. I ordered the baracuda from the video and hope it's gone.I thought I bought a bad one because it was cheap but in the video it's not that bad. thanks :=)
Hey man my wd blue 500gb is shitting on me it's my only hdd and it has the OS on it and its slowed my while pc for like 4 years and texture in game dont load all the way in for a while and load time are horrible took 7 mins to load into a battlefield 4 game what would u suggest to get that will last me and be fast
Hi there. How much of the 500GB is used? Are you able to add an extra drive like a SSD or do you have to replace the drive? I would suggest a 1TB SSD if you have both your OS and games installed on the same drive.
Using hdd's in docking stations heat 🔥 up more and slower data speeds but ok 4tb inside pc case with a fan near faster 💯 5400 vs 7200 < gets louder when R/W's 256 cache vs 64 cache ? only see on 8tb hdd in oz
Wd blue 6tb beeped this week and died today after 1 year. Same time 4 tb black sata connecter broke cheap plastic and died this week also. Besides wd and seagate what else is out there? All this happened after I upgraded to intel 12700k 32gb ddr4 3200. Are faster cpus breaking WD hard drives and maybe go all ssd? I did a health check and did find both my sad are good shape even Kingston after 6 years. But find a caution on wd 4 and 6 tb showing bad sectors.
@@TheWongReviewer thanks for making a great informative review it was clear cut which is what a lot of people like from reviews, despite me fat-shaming my pride and joy over the internet ill be going with the WD, after all, WD has a great reputation for being reliable and Seagate has are a mixed bag in that department.
@@Warhorse469 All good. It's going to be interesting to see which of my hard drives will crap out first since i got them at the same time. What setup do you have? I'm curious to know what monstrosity of Custom build you have.
@@TheWongReviewer Lian Li O11 DYNAMIC Case Intel Core i7 9700K running at 5.1 GHz stable Western Digital 4TB Blue Hard Drive x 2 - for storage of games and movies and TV shows I do a lot of 3d rendering that why I have so many + 1 more soon Samsung 860 PRO SSD 1tb x 2 - for playing games and windows Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ 8GB graphics card G.Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3200C14D-16GTZR 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4, 3200MHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra Motherboard Kraken X73 360mm AIO cooler Corsair ML120 PRO RGB PWM fan x 9 Corsair AX1000 Titanium Modular 1000W Power Supply
Form the video, typical SATA Hard Drives like the WD or Barracuda doesn't make a difference in gaming against SSD or NVME. So stick with the HDD for gaming.
@@TheWongReviewer hey brother yours has 64 mb of buffer but this 4 teras has 256 mb why? It is better than the one you have or it is similar but change the buffer I do not know if you could explain me
Hi there. Honestly, they both sound the same when it's actively writing to the disk. My desktop is located under my desk. I can hear "clicking" of the platters, but honestly, from where i'm sitting, they are the same.
Hi there. From all the comments i have read. If you're just using the HDD for storing files, WD seems to be better as it doesn't have the SMR technology that barrcuda employs. In Canada right now, the 4TB WD is $109 versus the 4TB Barracuda at $149, so I would go with the cheaper WD one.
The only that i have come across the WD Black which is 4TB with 7200 Rpm. www.newegg.ca/black-wd4005fzbx-4tb/p/234-000G-000W6?Description=4tb%20hard%20drive&cm_re=4tb_hard%20drive-_-234-000G-000W6-_-Product
thanks for share , I bought WD "Green" for long time ago and it was dead and let me lose a decade photos... how about WD "Blue" now? same tech and easily to die? I wanna buy a HD , Toshiba 4TB 5400 128m or HD blue 4tb 5400 256m...
Hi there. So far, i've been using both hard drives (blue and green) and haven't had any issues for 1.5 years. However, they are both mechanical drives and can fail. Make sure you have a backup of your important documents to another hard drive. I have my important data cloned on an NVME hard drive and fireproof external hard drive.
I am afraid they aren't same. Specifically this Seagate (ST4000DM004) is SMR vs WD (WD40EZRZ) is CMR. So there's a huge difference in drive longetivity. Also when it comes to data recovery, CMRs are much more reliable than SMRs. In laymen terms, data in SMR drives is written in layers, so to fetch data burried underneath, the drive will have to pull data from top layers and store it temporarily in Cache (hence SMR drives have bigger Cache than CMR drives). And while doing so the drive head has to go through a lot of wear and tear which eats up the head life. Moreover, recovering data from damaged SMR drive is more complex and less reliable. Whereas, in CMR drives data is not overwritten so it does not need to dig deeper to fetch data (hence smaller Cache). Less wear and tear on head and data recovery is easy and more chances of recovering data. Hope this helps.
Thank you for the detailed response. Great for viewers
WD40EZRZ is smr and WD40EZax is cmr
you are correct although the cache is also good for reloading games after first loading, the reloading comes from cache and is very fast, wd black has 256 cache also for this reason
"The cheapest one"
Nice, the most realistic opinion
Yeah, honestly, in terms of pricing. They flip flop back and forth during sales where one is always cheaper than the other. In terms of performance, in the long run, it’s not going to make a difference to an average user. If people were looking for performance, I would suggest a SSD.
@@TheWongReviewer If for long term storage only? What is the most reliable you can suggest at a very cheap price?
@DEEJMASTER 333 why I wanna know because I plan to buy a pc tmw but I wanna upgrade the specs on it and was inter in buying the seagate
@DEEJMASTER 333 I must be doing something wrong then. WD Blue 2TB have clicking noise after only 2 months! I didnt even use PC everyday, only like 20 - 40 hours a week. I had some sector probably failed since I found out some data are missing and it had my bios fixing the drive every so often now. Im sure that was a clicking of death, the sound of the Head scraping my disk.
What's nuts is, WD Blue cost more than Seagate Barracuda and my 1TB Barracuda have been running for 2 years with no issues.
@@VysairGlad i just bought the Barracuda then. But im truly crossing my fingers.. 😂 i was about to buy their Seagate Exos 7E8 as its said to last over 18 months on server tests. But server drives are NOISY. So i opted between the Blue & Barracuda. Luckely im just gona use it as a game drive for my PS4 Pro, so if it crashes games can just be redownloaded on any of my old 2.5 inch external drives. Just wanted to get an 8GB drive to max out the console, also because Playstation is only allowed to use 1 USB drive at a time which is quite annoying... Anyhoot: so bought a 3.5 inch Deltaco chassis to run the upcoming Barracuda 8GB drive as external drive. The inside is running a Crucial SSD 250GB at present, but might swap it with Samsung Evo 850 laying around from pc.
Went with the Barracuda 4TB to go with a Sabrent 1TB NVME. Honestly just did it cause it was the first I saw, glad to see it was a good pick. Thanks for the informative video!
Thanks for watching! Nice! From what I understand Barracuda is more reliable that WD. Only time will tell! Sabrent 1TB NVME, never heard of that brand. Interesting. I'll have to look that up.
@@TheWongReviewer the Sabrent was quite cheap (I got the Rocket PCIE 3.0 for around CAD$199, there's a cheaper equivalent called the Sabrent Rocket Q for around CAD$169). The somewhat low price worried me at first but it seemed to get excellent reviews and recommendations wherever I checked so I went for it.
@@TheWongReviewer Dude, Seagate has the highest failure rates on the market rn. Also, all their Barracuda products over 1TB are SMR, basically as your drive fills up, it's performance gets slower and slower. WD Blue products ending with a product code "EZRZ" (basically the ones with 64mb cache) are all CMR, so it will sustain that write/read speeds even if it's almost full!
@@sL1NK Thanks for the feedback. I checked and both my Seagate and WD are SMR drives. I actually just upgraded them both to a ironwolf drive which is CMR. In terms of which fails more, based on what you read, one article goes WD, one goes Seagate. It's really a toss up. platinumdatarecovery.com/blog/which-hard-drive-brand-is-the-most-reliable Just back up important info on an external drive and cloud just in case of drive failures.
@@TheWongReviewer Ironwolfs are nice, that's for sure, but pretty pricey. Nice pick though! Also, nvme is a connector type, not a brand, its m.2 pci-e nvme.
I bought 3 hard drive , 2 seagate and 1 WD but unfortunately those 2 seagate drives only last for 1 year but my WD is still alive until now so I would recommend buying WD because this thing has a low chance of failing.
only drive I ever had failed was Seagate which failed during break in period
$5 difference to get 190MB/s vs 145MB/s and you'd still choose the 145MB/s because you save $5? Wow.. I'd take the Barracuda's increased speed for a mere $5. I'd make it back many times over in the time I saved of using the Barracuda.
There's more to it imo. I had two Barracuda die on me in less than six months. Made my switch to WD, never had an issue.
@@desmasic Indeed, I could have misinterpreted Jordan's point. In comparison, Baracuda offers faster speeds, but as I previously stated, I've always found that there's more to it than just higher numbers.
I couldn't decide so I got both. Mainly for storing games on the PC. No need to run them from the SSD. Either way, they are both good drives. These massive HDDs are now worth it since SDDs have become popular. Even the SDDs have significantly gone down in price, so you really cant go wrong with anything you choose.
That's interesting you bought both! I agree with you that bang for the buck, HDDs are worth the price now. I use my NVME drives for OS, Video rendering projects and it works well. I use my HDDs for gaming and have had no issues with performance. THanks for commenting!
I checked NVME SSD have dropped by half the price since I bought 970 EVO 465 GB January 2019 thats 3 years ago.
@@TheWongReviewerIwas supposed to buy their server drive first Seagate Exos 7E8, but i heard some people complaining on the noise on that. Its a CMR drive so probably faster than Barracudas SMR for most files, but i figured Noise can be a more irritating factor in the living room: Hence why i picked the Barracuda 8TB. 500 Swedish bucks cheaper & free freight than the server drive. We shall see if it last over 2 years now.. 😉
For real bro. Phenomenal review keep it up my G.
Wow! Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I'm never sure if i'm doing a good job or how I can improve. Comments like these help motivate me to keep doing this. Thanks again. Have a great day and stay safe. Much appreciated.
@@TheWongReviewer - Noise comparison?
Bought my WD Blue 1TB in July 2018. Four years later (August 2022) it's still going strong, despite an average daily 8hrs+ of thrashing (due to constant pagefile writes from using a Win 7 system limited to 4GB of RAM) Not sure if I've just been lucky, but either way I tip my hat to the engineers at WD 👍
In contrast, a brand new Seagate Barra-Couldn't I bought a few months ago was dead out of the packet (just a ticking noise). Package was sealed and no sign of it having been dropped. Seagate 🖕
Wait isn't th wd blue TB 2019
@@GownOfficia I bought the HDD as part of a case/MB/memory/DVD package on 2nd July 2018 (yes, I really am that anal in keeping records ;-)
I bought a Seagate that died on me in the first 2 weeks so I've decided that WD is better although this happened several years ago so I don't know if Seagate upped their game since then.
I would choose the WD drive because it uses the older CMR tech while the Seagate uses the newer cost cutting SMR (Shingled magnetic recording
). In SMR, data are sequentially written to shingled tracks just as the roof of a house is shingled. Therefore, SMR does not have the random-access performance of CMR. In the real world if you're running an OS the WD drive will perform better but just for storage the Seagate might seem better at first due to the higher cache memory but will perform much worst while the WD drive has a more predictable and reliable performance. Don't fall for the extra cache memory Seagate is offering. Hope this helps.
Hi there. Thank you for the detailed response. I've been reading alot about SMR and how hard drive makers are starting to cheap out on their products. I mostly use my HDD as storage only and back up of pics and videos, so i prefer reliable over speed for my need. I agree, the cache memory isn't important for me right now.
Thank you, I wanted a HDD just to save media files and I almost fall into the cache trap, I though a little more speed would be good, but I read your comment and I watched some videos to know more about CMR and SMR, and thanks to you I cancelled a segate drive that I've ordered and instead I bought the WD blue for 15 bucks less, thanks dude
my experience: alway choose the WS - had 4 barracudas that died, and then start to replace then to WS. Never had a issue since then.
WD Blue CMR vs Seagate Barracuda SMR, let's go boys.
Agreed. If possible, CMR is better than SMR.
I have changed Seagate hard drives every year but the wd I got 10 years back is still rocking. if you want a longer life span go for WD, and you cannot trust Seagate,as I have 5-6 seagate HDDs with me which stopped working. also the other seagate right now is making sounds and it will stop soon.
Thanks for the feedback. Based on other commenters, it appears that WD is more reliable. I replaced my WD with a 8TB ironwolf HDD which is CMR and has a 5 year warranty. I'm hoping that will last me a long time.
@@TheWongReviewer hmm thats a nice choice
My Seagate is now 10 years old still running like a beast
@@anonymous9843 good, what purpose you use it for
Yeah so far all my seagate drives have lasted for 4 years at the most, decided to finally buy a WD blue to see if it lasts any longer.
Came by from a Google search. Great review!
Hey there! Thanks so much for commenting. Glad you found this helpful!
#yoganoconseagateycompragamer
I have heard people who both trash Seagate and swear by WD and vice versa mainly because they have had bad experiences with one before. The truth is that both companies have had some really good and really bad drives, and both are generally fine. I would just go for whatever is cheaper, if they're about the same, I'd compare the specs and go for the slightly better one.
I 100% agree with your comment here. I have both a WD and Seagate drive in my machine. No issues with either right now. I've told people they are mechanical drives and can fail at anytime. So to make sure they have a good backup (either cloud or NAS). I agree again with you, whatever is cheaper, just get that one. Great feedback.
Debating between the two, i went with WD Blue, was on sale for 85 bucks, i put my games on the blue and everything else as its serves as storage. Games run pretty good on blue, not insane on load times but it is consistent. Pretty happy with purchase. Seagate definitely owns up with that 40mb/s and larger cache. Blue is well rounded.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and sharing your experience. Glad it’s working out for you. yeah, if people were looking for performance, I would tell them to spend the extra for a SSD.
@@TheWongReviewer ssd+hdd combo, its the best.
@@MorrisChannel4 100% SSD and HDD combo is best.
@@TheWongReviewer 100% SSD is better though. Of course more expensive. But you can get 2TB SDD's now that arent all that expensive, the difference in price of between larger SSD and HDD isn't so great anymore. Question is: is it worth the significant performance degradation by saving relative few bucks to get HDD instead of SSD? Though for just storing your huge video collection or image collections I would still recommened 4TB or 8GB HDD's, but for everything else I'd really buy 2TB SSD's (or possibly 2x1TB SSD's which can sometimes be cheaper) for all applications and games.
Gracias por la informacion!
Saludos desde Buenos Aires.
De nada. Gracias por ver.
Hi Mr. Wong, I have had several external HD made by Seagate 320 GB(2006), 500 GB(2011) and 1 TB(2016). All of them still work fine. I have tons of movie and watch them all the time. I say Seagate makes quality products, thanks for your video.
That's awesome that you still have a hard drive from 2006 that is still working! Congratulations man! Thanks for your input and feedback!
Right... Seagate products are very reliable ... Also in case of failure they provide excellent customer support... One of my friend's HDD failed and Seagate sent brand new SSD as the replacement to HDD... This is the level of their customer care
@@88pianissimo90 Hey there. Thanks for the comments. I'm glad to hear they had a positive experience with customer service! I hope I don't have to use them.
@@TheWongReviewer i have seagate 250 gb 8mb cache hdd from 2007 still working nice.
A very through video explaining the difference and showing proof. I love it.
Amazing review man, keep up the good work.
I ordered a Crucial P2 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD Up to 2400MB/s for my boot drive and to install my OS and for storage i got the 2TB Barracuda this should work perfectly together. I tend to realize that you can get the most out of your storage drive if it’s paired with a SSD with the SSD being the main drive for opening stuff
yes, SSD is faster for booting the system + loading areas in games or working with software like adobe cs or pr...
Thanks. That was very helpful. I will pick a 4TB WD Blue in the future.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Good luck with your future custom build!
Hi there, thanks for your sharing. I need a 3.5'" 2 TB to 4 TB SATA HDD for movie or film data storage and attach it to Zidoo Media player for watching movie on TV purpose. The question is which one of the HDD from your review suit that task most? I consider to choose one of Caviar Blue or Barracuda, and also other one from Toshiba PC 300. In term of reliability and long term, which one will you recommend? And for information this HDD, I will put it in Orico multi bay Hard drive enclosure with other HDD from the same Brand.
I use a 3tb we blue for games it's pretty decent, I don't understand why people go for 7200rpm when games on the 5400 rpm drive runs pretty fast in gaming
Thanks for watching. you make an interesting point. I wonder how I would be able to test this theory out for myself. I have NVME, 5400 and 7200 rpm in my current setup. I would like to validate this. Great idea for another video.
For open world games its a big no. Stutter and textures not loaded properly almost happen with any open world games, moving to 7200rpm mostly fixed it, although it did not fully fix the texture load issues because of slow read speed of hdd.
I just installed a Seagate Barracuda 2tb 7200 RPM hard drive, it clocks in a t t o at 219 megabytes per second on read and write
Thanks for commenting. Why did you decide to go with Barracuda?
Is it loud? I want to buy one of those too.
@@joaco4927 My case fans are loud, so I only seem to notice a bit of what sounds like the speed increasing now and then.
The speed of the write also depends on the part of the disk being written to ..eg: outer or inner
Thanks for watching. Interesting. Thanks for the feedback. Now i'm going to google how the system prioritizes where to write the information to. outer vs inner.. Down the internet rabbit hole i go!
Which one of these hard drives is more reliable overall? I care most about keeping my data safe.
Based on other commenters, it appears that the WD are more reliable. However, I haven't had an issue with any of them yet. It's been about a year.
From what I've heard and seen in many articles and videos is how loud and unreliable Seagate Barracuda is. Who knows tho, my old Toshiba lasted me for 5 years currently but it is loud
In my office we still use some HDDs manufactured in 2007, 2011, 2012 and 2016. And all of them doing just fine. No data was lost for years. Mostly we have WD and Toshiba, can't tell right now if we have any Seagates.
In my experience, any 3.5" hard drive is reliable enough for ordinary PC users. 2.5" HDSs are much less reliable, no matter what brand it is. In fact, i only once saw 3.5" HDD failed, it was very old disc, can't remember what brand it was, but it was made in 2006 and died in 2020 heavily used. Almost all data was recovered successfully. But i remember 2 or 3 cases of 2.5" HDD failures, but again, all data was recovered, nothing was lost at all. Which is not the case with SSD. I saw once a dead SSD, all data lost - it probably was caused by old PC power supply. SSD still working, but it deleted all data, nothing was recovered.
@@Chastity_Belt I've have quite a few 2.5' that i've had for around 10 years in my desktop PC build. Thing is they're laptop drives so if in a laptop they get tossed around quite a bit, hence lower life expectancy.
2tb wd blue 256m/5400rpm or 2tb seagate bartacuda 256m/7200rpm what would you choose and why? does rpm really matter?
Hi there. Great question. Here is a great article explaining the difference between the speeds. pureinfotech.com/difference-5400-7200-rpm-hard-drives/#:~:text=Although%207200%20RPM%20hard%20drives%20are%20without%20a,average%20of%20120%20MB/s%20read%20and%20writes%20speeds.
If you're just using the drive to store files, 5400 RPM is fine. If you're using it as your main drive for your OS, than the faster RPM will help.
Thank you for the informative video it helped me a lot!
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it.
Hi! I bought this hd and when I went to transfer my 3D blocks to it (700gb - 400+k files) it speed hid a lot, reaching less than 1mb / s and a maximum of 60mb / s if I'm not mistaken ... what made the transfer take MANY hours ... is it really like that or is it defective? Thx!
Hi there. Thanks for watching. That does seem really slow. The biggest move i did was 50GB and the speed wasn't throttled. However, i was moving the file from a NVME drive to the HDD. What are you transferring from? is it another Hard Drive? What are the speeds like for smaller files around 10GB?
@@TheWongReviewer Thanks for the reply! so, I transfer files both from NVME, as well as from my other barracuda (1tb), and also unzipped and moved files internally in the 4tb ... at the first GB of recording, the speed and response seems "normal", but after some operations, the speed is just horrible ... and at this "horrible state" I tried to open a 1.5gb rar and it took more than 2min for the rar window to respond, and then it took almost 25min to unzip !! 25min to unzip 1.5gb!!! This Hdd is terrible ... I should have spent a little more and get the Ironwolf which is CMR and not SMR ... :(
@@PauloFLVasconcelos the drives over 1TB are SMR drives basically in short making them a lot slower since they have to rewrite some data sometimes as the tracks on the disk overlap sorry if this isn't the best explanation but heres a link that explains it better czcams.com/video/aztTf2gI55k/video.html
@@PauloFLVasconcelos I had same problem. Would suggest Barracuda Pro drive. It is CMR drive for desktop application.
Hi. Wich one do you think it's better?
BarraCuda 2TB 7200rpm 256mb Cache, model ST2000DM008
or
WD Blue 2TB 5400rpm 256mb Cache, model WD20EZAZ
The WD has 1 year longer warranty. I had one 500gb BarraCuda that i bought in 2016 that died recently and didn't even last 5 years, i'm more inclinated to buy the WD one, what do you think?
Hi there, I would go with the WD Blue. From what i've read in the comments and others, it appears to be more more reliable. I have both drives and they are still working without any issues.
Great review, very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
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Excellent video. Thanks.
Hey there. Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it !
i have 500 gb of traditional seagate drive in 2008 still working in my pc on which i am commenting !!!
That’s awesome! I’ve seen a lot of comments and forums that Seagate has a higher failure rate. Glad you’re HD is going strong!
@@TheWongReviewer I have a feeling its because most people use Seagate. If something is being used less, its normal to not hear much about it.
@@METALOZON That's a very good point. More people use it, the more you hear of issues.
I'd be happy buying either of these makes. I'm upgrading my 2009 PC which has been used pretty much every day for hours each day and has only had a 1TB WD Greenpower HDD in it the whole time. The new PC will have an HDD in it as well, but only for storage this time.
@@TheWongReviewer my 2008 seagate 250 gb 7200 rpm hdd just died :(
For secondary Storage , which works long last. CMR or SMR
Quick question are these hard drives sector size 4096? Getting one so I can move the OS from my other 4096. I need them to be compatible. Had trouble with some that were size 512
HI there. Thanks for commenting. Do you mean available size of hard drive space?
Great review make me understood thank you so much
Thank you for watching and providing feedback. Appreciate it!
If I'm not wrong the Seagate Barracuda ST4000DM004 used in the video is SMR technology. If so, that's a deal breaker for me. Nice comparison though. Thanks
Yup, this one is a SMR. If you have money in your budget, get a SSD. If you need more GB/$, get a ironwolf which is CMR like I did.
What about in the laptop? Im using Legion y540 have SSD nvme 512gb and i want add storage for file footage video,foto, and of course game too.. can you help me? Which one i should buy?
Hi There. Thanks for the comment. Do you have money in your budget to purchase a SSD versus a laptop 2.5 HDD. If so, I would recommend the sandisk ultra 3D 1TB. Currently, where i'm living, they are on sale for $150 Canadian. I upgraded 2 of my laptops with Sandisk ultra over the years and never had issues with them. Hope this helps.
@@TheWongReviewer but sir i need just HDD bcz the primary storage SSD nvme more than enough, plis answer my question about Seagate baracuda HDD vs WD blue HDD for file foto editing, video and game too
@@terminaetorgamer3680 Okay, gotcha. I understand your question now. Thanks for clarifying. For Photo editing, the higher cache, I would go with Seagate Barracuda.
i recoment to check the warranty in your country too... here in Brazil, the both disks have the same price, but western digital have 2 years of warranty, versus 1 year to seagate...
Good call. In Canada, it's the same warranty as in Brazil. Great advice.
I'm building a PC Ryzen 5 3600g. I'm looking for dual channel 2x8gb Ram, Gigabyte B450M D53H, HDD 1 GB and SSD 128gb. Which choice do you think will be the best for the HDD - SSD? Western or Seagate?
Thank you. I'm from Perú btw.
Hi there. Based on the feedback i've been getting, it looks like WD seems to be more reliable than seagate. I would stick with WD. Good luck with your build.
Nice review 👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks buddy! Appreciate the support!
Nice test but what about the noise level comparison? I would loved to hear about that too.
If I can remember, WS is noisier, but mor trustable (for me)
I bought seagate 4 tb on black friday and payd The same price as a 2 tb, só i Guess for me The seagate Worth it
Thanks for commenting. Yes, that's a great deal you got there. Honestly, both WD and Seagate uses the same "SMR" technology. Just remember to back up your important stuff to a cloud service. If possible, use a SSD for your OS.
nice choice
bad choice. You bought a SMR technology. Read up on the internet. It's slow garbage.
@@MaxRiley its working good for me, i payd 60€
@@MaxRiley Hi there. If you see my later on videos, you'll know that I switched to the Ironwolf HDD which is CMR. From what I read, for archiving stuff, SMR technology is fine.
My WD and Seagate hdd last for the last 6-7 years . Only cable got problem. Lol
That is awesome! I'm glad to finally hear that someone has had no issues with their hard drives! Thanks for sharing.
@@TheWongReviewer No problem . Keep defrag ur drive 3 times a week. Check for drive health . Clean non important files. Turn off ur computer when u afk for long time. Do not put files with virus in it . It will make ur drive clicking . Goodluck bro !!
@@MrZangetsu13 This is one of the more helpful comments i received. I'm going to see if i can incorporate your feedback into a future video on hard drives. Thanks bro. Appreciate it.
@@TheWongReviewer ok bruh . U received new subs from me !! Keep up with ur content .
I am going to assemble a desktop computer and i wil use Photoshop and corel draw and office 13 so which one is the best hdd in 1tera byte seagate or wd help me plsss
Hi there. It looks like the feedback is 1TB WD is the best option.
Picked myself a Barracuda 4TB so I never run out of media storage because Seagate products are much cheaper than WD products. I was gonna pick up an Ironwolf pro but this video changed my mind.
Paired it with Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB and I'm probably never running out of space for the next 5~6 years with proper storage management.
Thanks for commenting. How did the video change your mind from the Iron Wolf version? I agree, with proper storage management you'll be fine.
Well let's just say the added benefits aren't worth the price premium I have to pay for it.
And I'm pretty sure I won't need a NAS drive if I were to use my PC for less than 8 hours a day
@@Dazulolwarrior Thanks for commenting. I agree with you. I'm still torn on whether I need one or not. I'm running out of space due to youtube and photography files. I may just opt to get one of those WD 12 TB external drives.
Hmm, does Skyhawk good for storage movie, data, and load some indie game or it has any downgrade compare to barracuda?? Cause the 2tb Skyhawk are way cheaper than barracuda and WD Blue in my country!
Hi there. Here's a great article explaining the difference. linustechtips.com/topic/987357-seagate-skyhawk-vs-barracuda-vs-ironwolf/#:~:text=The%20difference%20between%20these%20drives%20is%20that%20the,and%20Ironwolf%20is%20made%20for%20NAS%27s%20or%20servers.
The Seagate here is an SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording) drive while the WD is a CMR,/PMR (Conventional or Perpendicular Magnetic Recording) drive. I'm surprised that the Seagate here turned in those numbers because SMR drives are notorious for being very slow when writing due to the nature of shingling magnetic tracks, but I guess that applies to rewriting data. The first write could be fast enough. Are these drives still with you and are you still using them? Some say SMR drives perform well initially but as data accumulates and gets fragmented it becomes very slow.
I checked the serial numbers on both, they are both SMR drives. I only use these drives as backup and archive of my youtube videos and photos. So far, they are still working and haven't had any issues.
Excellent review and well explained, thanks mate! 👍
Thanks man for the feedback. Appreciate it. This made my day. I got trolled on my other videos and it was nice to just get a positive comment today. Have a great day.
@@TheWongReviewer Welcome bro and keep it up
This was helpful. Thanks
help, which one i should use for gaming
for ex : 1HDD with 5400 RPM 64 MB cache , 2HDD With 5400RPM 128Mb cache
help i need answer and explain thanks.
Hi there. Thanks for the comment. I haven't done any benchmarking on my own for gaming. It's probably something I will consider doing for a future video. Here's a link explaining the benefits of more cache on traditional HDD : www.pcguide.com/tips/hard-drive-cache/
Would be nice to know if they are cmr/smr drives, for some reason I think the Seagate is smr since its thinner.
The Barracuda most definitely is. The WD might be cmr, given the low cash(?) (but there are blues that are smr as well apparently). I'm doing research before buying my next hdd. It's all a bit confusing at the moment.
hello i am looking forward on buying a 2tb model of this hdd. do you have a recomendation on wich to buy? i want my hdd to be running for years to come,to protect my data and not having to buy new hdd every 2 years or so. do you have a recomendation for long term use?
Hi there. Based on other commenters in this video and from what I read online. WD seems to be the more reliable option. Currently, I have both WD and Seagate 4TB installed in my PC for less than a year. I only use it to store video and pictures. I haven't had any issues with them yet.
I have the WD Blue, quite surprised by its performance as I initially thought it was just an ECO drive that would be moderate, but its actually a very nippy drive for a spinny.
Thanks for sharing your feedback on your WD blue experience.
Nice, visuals are better than "well tthe cache is about the same.... blah blah blah"
Thanks for the feedback.
i’m thinking about maybe building my own pc but i’m still learning a lot of things and understanding. so i’m on a website pc part picker (i’m also in canada so in cad) and i’m picking parts i think are good and what i want but also in a budget. i’ve read a lot of the comments here and your replies. what’s the difference of using storage for the operating system and for games and stuff? i will have games on my pc if i build one. should i be picking 2 of them, one for the operating system and one for games and storage? what about ssd? should the operating system be using ssd? and hdd for games and storage?
Hi there. Happy to help. I will actually be doing a video to explain hard drive choices in a few weeks.
You should have a faster SSD for your Operating System. It can be a 256 GB 2.5 inch SSD or a m.2 NVME drive. Your games can be stored on a standard hard drive , which allows you to be on a budget to store games. My experience games on a HDD is fine, as most are online and depends on your internet connection anyways. Hope this helps. If you have more questions, let me know.
@@TheWongReviewer okay, so a 256 GB for an SSD means it’s fast? is that amount also more than enough for future updates and things? and what is a m.2 NVME drive? is that a type of SSD? also is there more types of HDD? you said standard hard drive, what other ones are there? sorry for so many questions, thank you for your reply! :)
@@geeking101 Hey there. Email me at thewongreviewer@gmail.com. Send me all of your questions and I'll answer you there. It's much easier than typing out in a CZcams comment box. Happy to help you out and answer all of your questions. So email me there and I'll get back to you.
Great review, i was looking at getting the 2tb/4tb seagate barracuda from Canada computers. However when i check the specs for it, it claims that the rpm is 7200. Has it been changed? Or is it actually 5400 and they made a mistake
Hi there. I looked at Memory Express and all the 2TB and 4TB barracudas are 5400 RPM.
@@TheWongReviewer interesting, thanks!
@@TheWongReviewer I also have that issue. There are more models in these drives but how to find 7200rpm. Is it okey with 5400rpm in gaming.
How hard is nose and vibration on the seagate drive? I own a WD blue 1tb and a SG barracuda 3tb. I want to get rid of the barracuda since it is just SO DAMN LOUD, it vibrates so hard the whole desk vibrates in companion.
Hi there, I have 2 NVME and 1 SSD in my setup. 1 NVME is the OS and the other hard drives are used for photo and video rendering. I use my WD and barracuda as ""storage drives" where i store files of completed projects after I post it on youtube. When i copy a 3GB folder over, i can definitely hear the hard drive clicks from both. However, since i don't use the drives often or need to access info on them, the noise is very minimal and doesn't bother me.
You can buy some vibration isolating HDD drive screws to fix that cheaply. Unless the HDD is really FUBAR.
I would get the WD 8TB Ultrastar DC HC320 SATA HDD - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 256MB Cache . I get like 250-270 read write speeds.
Thanks for the feedback. those ultrastar hdd are a beast
my first hdd was western digital blue 256gb it still living even after ten years, should i buy another western digital products or seagate? cuz seagate have 256mb cache, and western digital only have 64mb cache and it price way higher than seagate...
I'm in the same boat, they both are on sale for the same price. But I feel better about WD even though Seagate has higher cache
HI there. Honestly, both drives are the same technology of SMR drives. However, based on user comments, it appears that seagate fails more often than WD. This is antedotal based on commenters. I would lean towards WD.
what is the noise ? which is quieter ?
i read a comment saying the Seagate is using SMR (Shingle magnetic recording), so that's probably why it's thinner, i couldn't find any proof of that yet. SMR is supposed to be worse and yet it's faster, so i don't know...
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Yes, a lot of people have already commented on the Barracuda using SMR. I've been looking into it. I"m not entirely sure if the one I have is SMR. However, i'm using these drives more of a back up drive and not part of my OS. I'm okay if it's not reliable . However it's been about 4 months now and no drive failures yet.
@@TheWongReviewer See here the list www.seagate.com/in/en/internal-hard-drives/cmr-smr-list/
@@zeempk1 AWESOME! Thank you for taking the time to comment, i was looking for this type of information.
if I just want a HDD for my D:/ to store my pictures and videos to play back , which rpm is better ? 5400 or 7200? (I have a m.2 nvme ssd already ) thanks so much
HI there, if you just want to store pictures and playback, a 5400 is fine. I did a quick experiment of loading pictures and videos between the 5400 and 7200 RPM drives. There is no discernable difference.
@@TheWongReviewer thank you so much for the reply. what if I transfer or copy those pictures(random write) and movies/videos(seq. write) files to HDD, is 7200rpm much better then 5400? or still discernable different?
@@twonatplus Sorry for the delay. Honestly, there is no discernable different. I moved 2GB of files for a test and the 7200 because of the cache was a little faster, however i'm talking about a minute faster, not 5 minutes faster. Honestly, I would go with whatever is cheaper for your purposes if it's meant for archival purposes.
Which one you'll prefer for long term use?
Hi there, based on feedback i have received from others. It looks like WD seems to be more reliable long term. So far, i have both of them and haven't had any issues.
the recording technology for WD Blue 4TB is CMR while for Seagate BarraCuda 4TB it's SMR which makes this video disk brand comparison kind of useless because both companies have models of these drives with the same recording technology . There are two WD Blue 4TB models, the one you are comparing, WD40EZRZ which is CMR and WD40EZAZ which is SMR, it costs a lot less and that's the one you should be comparing with the BarraCuda SMR drive. If you or anyone else here want to find for themselves whether WD Blue 4TB WD40EZRZ is CMR or SMR, contact Western Digital
Great. Thanks for the feedback and sharing this with the CZcams community.
You recomend the barracuda for alamacenating information?
Hi there. Sorry for the delay. I would have no problems recommending any hard drive to store data. I wouldn't use it as my main Operating system drive.
hey brother yours has 64 mb of buffer but this 4 teras has 256 mb why? It is better than the one you have or it is similar but change the buffer I do not know if you could explain me
hi there. The hard drives in the video have two different buffer. Here's an article that explains a lot better than i can. www.dignited.com/56059/hard-disk-cache/#:~:text=Also%20referred%20to%20as%20%E2%80%9CDisk,and%20from%20the%20hard%20disk.&text=A%20disk%20cache%20uses%20the,to%20bolster%20effective%20disc%20speeds.
Real world use. Honestly, it doesn't make that big of a difference unless you're copying GBs of data over.
@@TheWongReviewer says it has 256 buffer is it a lie?
@@jorgeshutatsumi8770 Okay, I think I understand what you're asking me now. Your model has 256 cache which is better than my 64 cache. You probably just have a different model and I don't think it's a lie.
@@TheWongReviewer this because it seems that it is the same model looks like the one in the video Disco Duro Interno Western Digital WD Blue 3.5", 4TB, SATA III, 6 Gbit/s, 5400RPM, 256MB Caché
Do you have a Review for the Seagate BarraCuda 2.5"" intern hard disk (4 TB)
Sorry for the late reply, I'll have to look into a Seagate Barracuda 2.5 inch. I"m thinking of upgrading my SSD and barracuda is on my radar.
Thanks great video
Thank you for the feedback! Glad it helped you.
Bro how do u récord this video
I mean what camera is? It looks very amazing
HI there. I'm actually going to be doing a behind the scenes video on how I shoot these videos and with what equipment. I currently use a Fuji X-T3 with a 16mm 1.4 lens and a Rhino camera slider. Thanks for commenting and stay tuned for a behind the scenes video.
Emiliano, if you want to record the screen, you can use BandiCam and you can use camera and mic as well!
Which one would you recommend if its for game storage? WdB or Seagate? I really need a new hd for my game, idk which one to buy considering both price are cheap at my place right now.
Based on the comments people have left here and what I have read. I suggest the WD.
Either. Doesn't matter. Better to look at pro models or enterprise if you really want more reliability. CMR over SMR. Make backups of important files - ALL drives can fail.
@@shinkimo Thanks again for the comment. I have read a few articles that state you shouldn't use an enterprise drive in a desktop build and to only use them in NAS setup. Do you have any thoughts or experience on this?
@@TheWongReviewer the main reason they state this, is because CRC (cyclic redundancy check). NAS and enterprise drives are set to check some errors they detect for a short time, then go to the raided disk to check again - if not found, it's labeled as a bad sector more quickly. Regular drives will do this check for a long time and I found they can even lock up or scratch the platter. So although they can help to recover something better, I'm not sure it's really worth it. Technology today is much better than it used to be, so there isn't as much chance of errors on drives as in the past. That being said, I'm ok with my drive labeling a bad sector and using the the next good sector over, without rewriting over a bad one (a good reason why CMR drives are better than SMR). In any case, it's why I think backups are good practice. Just about everyone is using Dropbox, google drive, etc now - everyone can redownload movie files, pr0n, etc if they need to 😂🤭.
excellent, thank you.
Thank you for the feedback. Appreciate it.
If I knew modern HDD's were this fast I wouldn't have gotten an SSD. What type of drive were you transferring the data from? Also 25% of the file transfer was at almost 600 MB/s! is that even possible? Loading data on my new MX500 from old hdd was 50mb/s for one and 100mb/s for another. I was using a 12 year old SATA 2.0 pc.
You did right choice with SSD. Start speed is reported wrong, because windows uses free ram as disk cache. You can check in Task Manager the real speed for each drive and see write speed never above 100MB/s for hdd.
Second, copying files to ssd from a hard drive is limited to min speed of both, which is hdd speed, like 200MB/s if hdd is old.
You were not using ssd fully during copy.
Third, ssds have very fast speed for small operations, like copying with 4KB requests.
A hdd has 2MB/sec for such requests, an SSD has 70MB/s. This is huge (35x) difference, when extracting zip archives, using databases or many programs at same time that read their files, hdd will almost block for minutes, ssd will run instantly.
The sequential speed is just small part of the picture, 4KB speed is the real deal.
i ordered the baracuda to replace my 2 1tb hard drives which i have been using for 10 years or so.
the whole tower vibrates since 2 computers with the old hard drives hehe
Hi there. Are you saying your new barracuda drive is vibrating your case after you installed it?
@@TheWongReviewer No, it vibrates with the old hard drives that I've had in different computers for 10 years or so. I ordered the baracuda from the video and hope it's gone.I thought I bought a bad one because it was cheap but in the video it's not that bad. thanks :=)
@@Bergwacht that's Hdd for u
Hey man my wd blue 500gb is shitting on me it's my only hdd and it has the OS on it and its slowed my while pc for like 4 years and texture in game dont load all the way in for a while and load time are horrible took 7 mins to load into a battlefield 4 game what would u suggest to get that will last me and be fast
Hi there. How much of the 500GB is used?
Are you able to add an extra drive like a SSD or do you have to replace the drive? I would suggest a 1TB SSD if you have both your OS and games installed on the same drive.
300gbs of like 480gbs are used
So I'll prob just get an ssd
are westren digital 4tb with 256mb will work well with westren digital 2tb 64mb ? Thanks good vid :)
Hi Rico, are you asking if you can put 2 different WD hard drives in the same build?
@@TheWongReviewer yep bro, both black for games and storage. Thanks for help :)
Using hdd's in docking stations heat 🔥 up more and slower data speeds but ok
4tb inside pc case with a fan near faster 💯 5400 vs 7200 < gets louder when R/W's 256 cache vs 64 cache ? only see on 8tb hdd in oz
Do You have review of the same models but 1TB?
HI there. Unfortunately i don't have a review of the 1TB drives. Sorry about that.
Wd blue 6tb beeped this week and died today after 1 year. Same time 4 tb black sata connecter broke cheap plastic and died this week also. Besides wd and seagate what else is out there? All this happened after I upgraded to intel 12700k 32gb ddr4 3200. Are faster cpus breaking WD hard drives and maybe go all ssd? I did a health check and did find both my sad are good shape even Kingston after 6 years. But find a caution on wd 4 and 6 tb showing bad sectors.
I'll be going for the Seagate BarraCuda 4TB mainly because my computer is already are fat heifer and It doesn't need any more weight from the WD -_-
Thanks for watching. I had a good laugh at the fat heifer comment!
@@TheWongReviewer thanks for making a great informative review it was clear cut which is what a lot of people like from reviews, despite me fat-shaming my pride and joy over the internet ill be going with the WD, after all, WD has a great reputation for being reliable and Seagate has are a mixed bag in that department.
@@Warhorse469 All good. It's going to be interesting to see which of my hard drives will crap out first since i got them at the same time.
What setup do you have? I'm curious to know what monstrosity of Custom build you have.
@@TheWongReviewer
Lian Li O11 DYNAMIC Case
Intel Core i7 9700K running at 5.1 GHz stable
Western Digital 4TB Blue Hard Drive x 2 - for storage of games and movies and TV shows I do a lot of 3d rendering that why I have so many + 1 more soon
Samsung 860 PRO SSD 1tb x 2 - for playing games and windows
Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ 8GB graphics card
G.Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3200C14D-16GTZR 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4, 3200MHz
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra Motherboard
Kraken X73 360mm AIO cooler
Corsair ML120 PRO RGB PWM fan x 9
Corsair AX1000 Titanium Modular 1000W Power Supply
Thank you. I am running out of storage because I have a lot of anime and ROM for emulator.
Glad this helped.
Are these worth it for gaming or should I just get an ssd or nvme instead? Thanks
Check out this video from linus tech tips that tells you if Hard drive types make a difference czcams.com/video/4DKLA7w9eeA/video.html
Form the video, typical SATA Hard Drives like the WD or Barracuda doesn't make a difference in gaming against SSD or NVME. So stick with the HDD for gaming.
Seagate Firecuda SSD is superb for gaming... It is a top notch
Can I put only one or does it have to be two
Sorry, can you please clarify what you're asking?
@@TheWongReviewer hey brother yours has 64 mb of buffer but this 4 teras has 256 mb why? It is better than the one you have or it is similar but change the buffer I do not know if you could explain me
which one is quieter and silent?
Hi there. Honestly, they both sound the same when it's actively writing to the disk. My desktop is located under my desk. I can hear "clicking" of the platters, but honestly, from where i'm sitting, they are the same.
Nice video thx
Thanks for the comment. Much appreciated.
Which one is better then ?
Hi there. From all the comments i have read. If you're just using the HDD for storing files, WD seems to be better as it doesn't have the SMR technology that barrcuda employs. In Canada right now, the 4TB WD is $109 versus the 4TB Barracuda at $149, so I would go with the cheaper WD one.
Are there no 4tb 7200 hard drives?
The only that i have come across the WD Black which is 4TB with 7200 Rpm. www.newegg.ca/black-wd4005fzbx-4tb/p/234-000G-000W6?Description=4tb%20hard%20drive&cm_re=4tb_hard%20drive-_-234-000G-000W6-_-Product
sir, review wd blue with 256cache 5400rpm vs 256cache 7200rpm
For Data copy paste use WD
For GAmes Use Seagate ;)
Thanks for the comment, great suggestion. I'm currently using one of my ssd for games. I mostly use both drives to store data.
PLEASE ANSWER ANYONE
DOES THIS WORK WITH PLAYSTATION 4
I am looking for a comparison between: WD40EZAZ VS ST4000DM004
does the seagate barracuda work for ps4?
Yes it does. No issues there. Any Hard Drive will work in the PS4.
barracuda for game storage is OK I am guessing?
Hi there, yes, barracuda is fine for game storage.
What case is that? Looks really similar to my corsair 275r airflow
Si finally the barracuda is better?
some one i know had 2 Seagate hdd burn out on him he sed it was the platter being so thin that is why
thanks for share , I bought WD "Green" for long time ago and it was dead and let me lose a decade photos... how about WD "Blue" now? same tech and easily to die? I wanna buy a HD , Toshiba 4TB 5400 128m or HD blue 4tb 5400 256m...
Hi there. So far, i've been using both hard drives (blue and green) and haven't had any issues for 1.5 years. However, they are both mechanical drives and can fail. Make sure you have a backup of your important documents to another hard drive. I have my important data cloned on an NVME hard drive and fireproof external hard drive.
@@TheWongReviewer thank you for yr advice, that clear to me what should I choice the HD.
@@user-zs4iv3vf5m If you're buying a blue or green hdd, just get whatever one is on sale.
@@TheWongReviewer ，got it! thanks for yr nice reply,
Good video
Thanks man. Appreciate the feedback. Stay well!
That speed difference is 30%. That is not “insignificant”.
Wd blue has 256 version too