Seagate Hard Drives - Before You Buy

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  • @CMDai1
    @CMDai1 Před 3 lety +17

    Thank you so much, it is because of your videos I have switched all my personal, work and my family environment to my own NAS from the cloud. How much NAS has progressed in the last 5-10 years is amazing.
    Thanks for bringing excitement back, keep the content comming!

    • @sunvarutube
      @sunvarutube Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Atlantis, What is your configuration, I am struggling with it. 2 bay vs 4 bay , HDD RPM vs Cache. Five users will be using and storing the data, Basically personal data, Photos and Videos

  • @nassimabed
    @nassimabed Před rokem +5

    Thanks a ton for this video. Finally, a decent demystification of what these are all about. Really much appreciated.

  • @whothefoxcares
    @whothefoxcares Před 3 lety +18

    Hiring a computer operator to perform nightly backups is a good idea. Off site storage is a better idea. *Nobody has ever recovered from a real disaster* without backups.

  • @davidlescarbeau521
    @davidlescarbeau521 Před rokem +2

    Very informative video! Thank you! Exos are noisy indeed, but as stated by another commenter, it is not an annoying sound, in fact I like it pretty much.

  • @StephenWagner
    @StephenWagner Před 2 lety +2

    Great video explaining things we all are curious to know but never find the time to learn. Thanks! :)

  • @syncmonism
    @syncmonism Před 2 lety +8

    LOL, sir, you underestimate how old some of us are. There used to be a lot more popular hard-drive brands other than just WD, Seagate, and Toshiba. I don't know what brand of hard drive was in my family's first PC, a Mac Plus, but I know that the first hard drive I had in a windows PC was Fujitsu (which ran great for many years until I eventually retired it because it was too small), and my second hard drive was a Quantum/ Maxtor drive, which also worked well until the warranty was nearly out, when it failed, and I then sent it in for warranty service and it served me for another 5 years or so until I eventually retired it. I have owned one Seagate and many, many WD drives as well over the years though. I'm not even that old. I'm 39, but I'm sure that some of your viewers are a lot older than me.

  • @user-cb1sc8rl1r
    @user-cb1sc8rl1r Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your videos of HDDs comparison. Very informative!

  • @freddymiguelponce
    @freddymiguelponce Před 3 lety +10

    GREAT video as always!
    Do you have similar video but comparing WD?
    Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning
    Have a Productive and Healthy day!

  • @nvo_truenemogaming7258
    @nvo_truenemogaming7258 Před rokem +2

    17:10 I started laughing!
    Thank you for your time and efforts, I do appreciate somebody like you, doing so much for our IT community!

  • @pidity
    @pidity Před 2 lety +15

    Great video, thanks!
    Interestingly, while (looking at product manuals for 10TB drives) the older Ironwolf Pro models (such as ST10000NE0008) should be about 1dB quieter than EXOS drives, the latest ST10000NE000 Ironwolf Pro model now has the same acoustic specs as its EXOS counterpart (ST10000NM001G). Noise may be going away as a differentiating factor.

  • @marksterling8286
    @marksterling8286 Před 3 lety +4

    Great video, help me explain to a friend that a hdd is not just a hdd. I picked a few years back ironwolf 8Tb to populate my ds1517+ I have it under my desk and it’s relatively cool and quite.

  • @thefulchman
    @thefulchman Před 3 lety +27

    I had three Seagate IronWolf 4TB drives that were showing a predictive failure in my QNAP NAS. This was after some power issues at my house. Seagate not only replaced them, but they replaced them with the IronWolf PRO 4TB drives. I probably just got lucky, but that gave me the feel-goods about Seagate support.

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před 3 lety +10

      Tbh Todd, that sounds like a case of drive availability and a recent rejig of their product line up resulting in those better drives being the best option for Seagate. However kudos to them for doing the right/good thing and sorting you out with improved mediam

    • @Sombre____
      @Sombre____ Před 2 lety +2

      Seagate HDD are fragile. I don't recommand to buy seagate.

    • @eccodolphin
      @eccodolphin Před 2 lety +8

      @@Sombre____ Really not a helpful comment. ALL HDD are fragile because they are precision mechanical devices. Some fail more than others but without any context, this comes off sounding like you had a bad experience with Seagate and are now just telling everyone they're bad based on that.

    • @Sombre____
      @Sombre____ Před 2 lety +1

      @@eccodolphin Seagate is just pretty bad. :)

    • @benadriel
      @benadriel Před rokem +2

      @@Sombre____ Then what do you suggest??

  • @aarondaines7163
    @aarondaines7163 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks so much for explaining my question on the difference from the wolf and exos. The sale for the 14 tb verses the wolf makes it hundreds of dollars cheaper than the wolf at the moment

  • @SP4CEBAR
    @SP4CEBAR Před 2 lety +1

    best intro ever, now everyone is interested

  • @donphobos
    @donphobos Před 3 lety +17

    Kudos for not knocking them over. I have watched your sound tests and love them. Great piece of information.

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před 3 lety +6

      THANK YOU! Genuinely astounded I didn't elbow them even once.. I'm the biggest clutse you'll ever meet!

    • @RobFisherUK
      @RobFisherUK Před 3 lety

      Bit of a spoiler, this comment! 😝

    • @ZiemsRyan
      @ZiemsRyan Před 2 lety +1

      I can't believe he didn't knock even one over!! Great content, thank you!

  • @MrPir84free
    @MrPir84free Před 2 lety +17

    I've been a loyal Seagate customer for decades; I've tried other brands over the years, including WD drives, and some others, and always come back to Seagate. When purchasing for the company, always have been choosing Seagate when possible. They've just been the more reliable brand overall..
    For home use, I tend to boot and run from SSD, but for raw storage, I tend to prefer the slower spindle speeds and larger cache. In a NAS at home, I still would lean towards a slower drive for less noise, less heat, and hopefully longer life. The data recovery feature, while it sounds like a nice feature, well, I'm going to say my drives tend to last longer than the warranty anyways, so while it's insurance, it's insurance that will often NEVER get collected upon.
    Playing the odds: Only a fool keeps his/her important data on one drive, and waits for it to fail. If you know the manufacturer's warranty, for all intents and purposes, assume 80% of that, and be prepared for failure at that point. Check your drives and backups on a routine basis; a NAS is not a backup device, although it can be. Keep at least 3 copies of your important data, on 3 different systems, separate systems. Ideally, two or more of your copies will be on OFFLINE (powered down ) backups. I'd lean towards SSD drives for the really important stuff- keeping them as offline media.

  • @joesworld396
    @joesworld396 Před 3 lety +80

    Seagate are more affordable than any other brand, but my personal experience has been that Seagate is also less reliable than any other brand. If I can't depend on the drive, how much it costs doesn't matter.

    • @BrianGarside
      @BrianGarside Před 3 lety +1

      I hope my Exos drives are comparable to WD.

    • @Stevefhu
      @Stevefhu Před 3 lety +8

      I've only been buying Western Digital for years because of their reliability. I've only had 1 die without warning (click of death after 2 years, covered under warranty) out of all I've had but almost every other brand that I've tried (including Seagate) have had a high failure rate. WDs aren't even that much more expensive than Seagates. I'll always take reliability over cost.

    • @BrianGarside
      @BrianGarside Před 3 lety +2

      @@Stevefhu I to am a WD Gold and Black edition buyer until recently I tried the Seagate Exos since that is the enterprise grade drives and so far 8 of my drives are running perfect in my NAS. I was impressed with the durability and many folks use them like Robbie.

    • @Trifler500
      @Trifler500 Před 3 lety +9

      I build a lot of computers for customers, and in my experience, Seagate had a couple of really bad models in the past, but I find they've really improved. They're also much quieter than WD drives, so I prefer them these days.

    • @scalamasterelectros3204
      @scalamasterelectros3204 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Trifler500 the only thing that matters in a hard drive is reliebility and speed qwietnes is not a consern

  • @Sard_Onyx
    @Sard_Onyx Před 3 lety

    I really like your tone and pacing. Subbed.

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před 3 lety

      Cheers buddy. Appreciate the feedback

  • @adrianandrews2254
    @adrianandrews2254 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I'm using 4 off Exos X16 12TB drives in my NAS with 10GBit Networking and my other PCs diskless booting. The Exos were the obvious choice. Very happy so far.

  • @wayneosman8971
    @wayneosman8971 Před 2 lety +4

    It's march 21, 2021 and, O"Boy I love your video, that and the fact I bought a Seagate EXOS. three days ago, for all the reasons you mentioned. There is a tipping point that comes with buying anything, in this case I have an abundance of hard drives along with plenty of SATA ports eight to be exact on each of two Motherboards and extra SATA controller cards. Yet todays Computer cases lack 3.5" storage space. Most only allow for 2 or 3 mechanical drives and some up to 8 SSD's and Nvme.M.2's but the newer cases if selected right will also come equipped with incredible dust filters. Cleaning dust from computers three times a year by taking them apart can be dangerous. Mine are or were RAID/ JOBD. (I did back-up first) and I needed to change out a power supply that didn't help. In the end deciding to use one large EXOS made it easier. P.S I clicked "Liked", "Subscribed", and clicked the "Bell" for all your videos.

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The newest generation of Exos Mach.2 SATA drives are near silent inside the Expansion line of external HDDs, the components they use to dampen the vibration is amazing. Even after I shuck them and put them inside a 4 bay NAS, they're still very very quiet compare to any other enterprise HDDs.

  • @pioni2
    @pioni2 Před rokem +1

    I'm using Seagate drives on all of my NAS units. Previously my go-to was the Ironwolf and Ironwolf Pro, but both of these had quality issues as I've had to replace almost every drive in two 8-bay units during the first 1,5 years. The first replacement drives failed as well, some even before the RAID was rebuilt. All that when Seagate was not honoring warranty and refunded me the cost of a drive when I had a degraded RAID arrays, sometimes two, desperately in need of new drives. My latest NAS has 8x Exos 18TB and it has been working so much better, no SMART status errors, no broken drives and they are fast. The only thing that bugs me is that they are slightly louder than the Ironwolf drives (sounds like boiling eggs). I might have bought Ironwolf for the latest NAS as well, but nobody had any drives. Even the Exos drives were hard to get, I waited almost two months for some. Now I've bought replacement drives that are waiting for a failure just because I can't rely on the warranty and degraded RAID arrays can't wait 2-3 months for a new drive.

  • @jerryfacts9749
    @jerryfacts9749 Před rokem +2

    Excellent information in this video! Thanks!
    I have been using Seagate drives for many years. I've also used other manufacture drives. I've had very few issues with drives. I found when installed with fans blowing air over the drive surfaces for cooling they lasted longer. Since SSDs became reasonable in cost I have been using them for boot drives. I use hybrid drives for data storage. With small business and home computers I have had these drives last for some years with very little failure. It is important to buy a drive designed for the type of use if you want decent performance and reliability. In commercial environments where the drives are heavily used failures were happening more often.

    • @gumy99
      @gumy99 Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing, which HDDs would you recommend to go for in a NAS if mostly used as a photography storage accessed occasionally? I understand NAS is not a back up solution, but I would like to use it as raid 6 and actually have it as a main storage.

  • @billywilliam7747
    @billywilliam7747 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for the great clarity

  • @rahulshah1408
    @rahulshah1408 Před 11 měsíci

    That intro is awesome!!!

  • @DuncSargent
    @DuncSargent Před 2 lety

    That was really helpful. Thanks!

  • @latentdiscourse4357
    @latentdiscourse4357 Před rokem

    Love the video. I have a little home server and I really like the Seagate Exos drives. Do they have to be used in arrays? I never really turn the home server off so its not being cycled all the time, but I don't have enough for a RAID array. Just random hard drives I've picked up.

  • @Brosfight_
    @Brosfight_ Před rokem +3

    I would love to see a new comparison video between Exos and Ironwolf Pro Drives, because the new Ironwolf Pro generation (e.x ST8000(NT)001 / 500TB per Year Workload, 2M MTBF and unlimited drive bays supported) rivals the Exos Drives in my opinion.
    I would like to hear your thoughts about it.

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Před 2 lety

    Thanks guvna this is great info

  • @alexhollywood1579
    @alexhollywood1579 Před 5 měsíci

    Man you are so awesome 🎉 thanks a lot

  • @dane4890
    @dane4890 Před 19 hodinami

    Hard Seagate for years, top dollar!

  • @gumy99
    @gumy99 Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing, which HDDs would you recommend to go for in a NAS if mostly used as a photography storage accessed occasionally? I understand NAS is not a back up solution, but I would like to use it as raid 6 and actually have it as a main storage.

  • @flym256x
    @flym256x Před rokem

    I has 2 WD hard drives in my life. Both failed. For last 15 years I only buy Seagate (nas, external drives, pc). No issues at all. I am very happy with Seagate

  • @serjmaster87
    @serjmaster87 Před 2 lety

    If i have an a 2 bay raid enclosure , I want to use it just for raid 1 to back up my video files once/twice a week do i still need the iron wolf or i can just buy the barracuda ?
    Great content , learned a lot from you, thanks.

  • @Trusteft
    @Trusteft Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video.

  • @MostlyBlindMitch
    @MostlyBlindMitch Před 3 lety +1

    One thing that made me hesitant to jump on the Exos bandwagon was the 4kn/512e thing, and how you shouldn't mix and match with with drivers that are 512 native, or so I read. Would love a video with clarification of what the terms mean, and how that affects the use case of the drives.

  • @AndreiBarsan
    @AndreiBarsan Před 3 lety +50

    20:30 I can confirm this in Canada too! I managed to get 3x 12Tb Exos drives cheaper than IronWolf PROs of the same capacity a few months ago. I actually love their louder robotic noise, it reminds me of my childhood (loud 20Gb 2001 HDDs, anyone? :D) and gives off a nice cyberpunk vibe.

    • @bertnijhof5413
      @bertnijhof5413 Před 3 lety +5

      What about 1988 20MB or 1993 300MB?

    • @firenado4295
      @firenado4295 Před 2 lety +1

      lol my voip server has on of those 20gb 2001 hdds in it, makes a hell of a racket booting but after that its fine

    • @mojaslovenija9903
      @mojaslovenija9903 Před rokem +2

      20 Gb? My 286 AT from late 80-ie, which was "top shit" was with a "wow" 20 Mb HDD. I received SCSI 1 GB HDD in 1993 and needed to get personal at the customs as it was kind of "not earth tech"...not to mention it was a month salary price.

    • @russbrown4510
      @russbrown4510 Před rokem

      @@bertnijhof5413 lol 😪I fill old my first pc mem was 1981-82 it only 32 bit mem that came from 1.5' and 3.5 floppy. Now those were loud but still not as loud as dot matrix sawing across each line of print.

    • @Physics072
      @Physics072 Před 10 měsíci

      @@bertnijhof5413 Or my 1980s 40MB and my whopping 105mb for my dial up bbs. When I got the 40MB my friends said "Are you crazy" that is way over kill. But we had 48k computers and a huge game was 32k not megabyte or Gigabyte.

  • @angelamorley9921
    @angelamorley9921 Před rokem

    I run Seagate Barracuda 2.5" drives in my NAS, but I 100% expect them to fail. Running double parity, and I keep a few drives sitting around waiting for it. But they're cheap and they work, even with shingled storage, it's fine for my needs.

  • @Proditae
    @Proditae Před rokem

    Thank you!

  • @daveg4417
    @daveg4417 Před 11 měsíci

    I use WD NVMe, SSD, and Hard Drives in my computers. I use Seagate Exos in my home 4-bay NAS, and Seagate IronWolf in my 2-bay off-site cloud VPN NAS. The IronWolf are a lot quieter, but the Exos were cheaper per TB. I am a bit paranoid with my data, I maintain a 7-2-2 backup setup.

  • @trustedsource1273
    @trustedsource1273 Před rokem

    I have over 1.1PB gross capacity, 800TB after RAID installed in NAS systems I have built up over the years. My oldest is a HA Synology from 7 years ago with 24 x 10TB HGST SAS drives. One drive has failed in the last 7 years. In other NAS I have added over the years I have used EXOS drives. None have failed. My latest addition is 12 x 20TB Ironwolf Pro. in a rackmount Qnap. The Pro drives were cheapest this time. In each case my priorities were 1) suitability for purpose then 2) price per TB. Since they live in their own separately cooled room with much louder servers, noise isn't a problem. I use these for large scale development, simulation and research archives.

  • @josvanderspek1403
    @josvanderspek1403 Před 10 měsíci

    Indeed great video, thanks! Now, since some years have gone by, would you still recommend the EXOs over the Pro? (I just bought my first NAS (Synology D220+), and intend to use it mainly for watching my video files and all other storage. It came with one slot filled with a 4 TB Seagate Ironwolf, and I'm looking to add a 16 TB one for the second slot, totalling 20 TB (which should last me years).)

    • @joj6123
      @joj6123 Před 10 měsíci

      BEWARE OF SEAGATE. they're customer service is horrible. god forbid something wrong happens to your hard drive and send it in for an RMA YOU WILL NOT GET IT BACK it's horrible i cant get in contact with anyone and im ready to call my bank and find out what i can do

  • @glasshalfempty1984
    @glasshalfempty1984 Před 2 lety +1

    20:12 6 Gbps is far more than any mechanical drive can even come close to even hoping to saturate. Even basic SATA SSDs that have about 500-600 MB/s read/write (ish) only just finally make use of the 6 Gbps SATA bus speeds. There's probably benefits beyond the simple extra 6 Gbps of bandwidth though.

  • @RealStuntPanda
    @RealStuntPanda Před rokem

    I just bought a used Seagate EXOS X18 16TB drive to back up my RAID 6 so I can convert it to SHR-2.

  • @chrisw7612
    @chrisw7612 Před 4 měsíci

    which is a better idea to use for a usb 5 bay storage separate space thats for file back up.. i don'twant to go nas

  • @kwstasf
    @kwstasf Před 2 lety +2

    I bought 3x 16TB Exos Hard Drives (284€ each) 345€ cheaper than i would need for 3x 16TB Ironwolf Pros (399€ each). I' m happy with that :-)

  • @wlelandj
    @wlelandj Před 3 lety +4

    Always enjoy your vids. Love my Exos X16 drives, 10 so far. Of course now I'm in a holding pattern due to the current Chia coin debacle.😏 Prices currently up 60%+😩

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před 3 lety +6

      Don't even get me started mate... You see that PILE of equipment on the desk behind I. In videos over the last 4 weeks? That is an ongoing project halted over a SINGLE drive I need... One... One damned 14TB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @rosadoric615
      @rosadoric615 Před 3 lety

      @@nascompares Hello from Australia. Love your content. You certainly know your stuff. I recently had problems sourcing my Ironwolf's aswell. I was wondering when your big video was coming as you talked about it for a while now. Now we kow why. You only have yourself to blame as there was a rush on buying hdd's after your "Chia Mining on NAS" video. lol

  • @VincentGonzalezVeg
    @VincentGonzalezVeg Před 3 lety

    I recently bought a barracuda 1tb Seagate SS Drive

  • @alpenfoxvideo7255
    @alpenfoxvideo7255 Před 2 lety

    i have a pair of 8TB Ironwolf PRO drives which are warm ad loud (not helium technology) I don't know weather I would be able to sell them off, I also have a Qnap enclosure for them that I use maybe once a month...

  • @przemyslawdanieljanus8832

    Hi what 2.5 inch deive would you recommend for NAS? Are there other altwrnatives to WD Red 1TB?

  • @Ghennesph
    @Ghennesph Před 8 měsíci +2

    MAXTOR, actually
    Hitachi was better than all of them
    Pretty sure harddrives are just binning and firmware. The different labels come from the same factory, dependent on the maximum capacity in the range and to some extent specification. (22TB generation exos, ironwolf, barracuda pro, all come from 22TB factory, all helium filled, all 7200rpm, all the same mechanism. just different bin and firmware)

  • @TheMx5Channel
    @TheMx5Channel Před 11 měsíci

    Great video but i do have questions, i use a big drive in my pc and i back it up on a external disk. I want a disk that's reliable for years to come but i always find that those drives are the enterprise/nas drives. But they say those drives are not great for desktop applications due to error corrections since a server normaly does that in a larger array?

  • @Aethalops
    @Aethalops Před rokem

    Comprehensive and useful. If using the drive as Archive-only, rather than NAS application, is there any drawback to choosing the EXOS drives in 14+ TB sizes? Even a year later than your comments here, they remain the lowest price per TB.

  • @iamdjfidel
    @iamdjfidel Před rokem

    Hello to you Sir and anyone else.
    I just need a HHD to free up my SSDs and reorganize.
    Which one should I get for use with my MacBook?
    I am interested in the ranges from 10-16TB.
    Thank you for your responses before I see and reply.

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus Před 6 měsíci

    Hi NASCompare friends. Is there a 'tape a pinout' method to make a Seagate work as an internal drive (for Seagate drives that only work as an internal drive)?
    Western Digital has that 3rd pin on the contacts of the power to enable some WD drives.
    God bless, Rev. 21:4

  • @carlos_mann
    @carlos_mann Před rokem

    So if I am searching to build a NAS system primarily for my massive music & music video collection (of over 18+ tb) would it be best to get 5 of the exos 18 tb hard drives to put into my Synology DS1520+ NAS Diskstation?
    And then purchase the add on station as needed?

  • @CheapBastard1988
    @CheapBastard1988 Před 2 lety +11

    I remember Seagate drives having higher failure rates than both Toshiba and WD. And WD would have the lowest typical failure rates. Seagate really needed that data recovery service included for people to even try their products again. That was only a few years ago.
    Now Seagate has the lowest failure rates while WD has the highest. Seems like current WD management is running WD into the ground. By sacrificing quality for higher profit margins. And I guess the included data recovery service gave Seagate an excellent insight of common failures on their products. Data which they obviously used to their advantage. It's actually quite brilliant.

    • @pijavka123
      @pijavka123 Před rokem

      2 of 3 of my WD RED drives died shortly after the warranty expired. 3TB WD RED failed 3 years ago, I replaced it with 4TB RED which failed yesterday, 18 days after 3 years warranty expired. I seriously thinking of switching to Ironwolf models.

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn Před rokem +1

      Within the last couple of months, I had the first ever drive failure I've had in my 36 years of living, one of the four 12 TB WD Red's in my NAS... so now I'm pretty damn concerned about the other three.
      To their credit, when I e-mailed them and asked them if I could just pay $50-100 or something to replace the drive since it died 2-3 months out of warranty, they said I couldn't, but they would make a one time exception and replace it as if it were in warranty... so since I'd already bought another drive to replace it so I wouldn't lose any data, I now have a brand new replacement drive in case I have another failure.

    • @pijavka123
      @pijavka123 Před rokem

      ​@@praetorxyn You got lucky, I got rejected by WD support, although disk died only after 18 days after warranty expired. Maybe it's because it's only "low cost" 4TB drive. But as a replacement I bought 2x IronWolf PRO 8TB on Amazon and both of them were DOA. OMG! I returned them immediately and switched back to WD REDs 8TBs non-PRO version.

    • @antonsinitsyn6420
      @antonsinitsyn6420 Před rokem +1

      LOL guys, I have 3 WD Red for 3tb each of them. The youngest HDD is used for the last 9.5 years. Either, all my HDDs have good SMART output. I assume, 10 years ago WD did better it.

  • @syaqsakma81
    @syaqsakma81 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I prefer using Exos in my pc. Not just because I have 3 hard disks but Exos is designed for heavy usage and more importantly because of the multi bay environment, it can deal with more vibrations than the normal single bay hard disk for PC. Kinda sad when 2 of my 3TB Barracuda went kaput on me so I bought the Exos and had been running fine for quite some time..

  • @MonstantinG
    @MonstantinG Před 2 lety

    What about Toshiba Hdd? I haven't heard you mentioning them much/at all on your channel?

  • @toshimon6276
    @toshimon6276 Před rokem +1

    Having worked on servers before there was such a thing as Enterprise hardware I will always use Enterprise level hard drives, the possibility of lost data is just not worth the cost savings. Nothing is guaranteed but remember it's not if the hard drive will fail but when.

  • @csxtrainman95
    @csxtrainman95 Před 2 měsíci

    Which drive would be used for a small media library to watch movies with Jellyfin and just hold my photos?

  • @alexoelkers2292
    @alexoelkers2292 Před 2 lety

    So I'm thinking about buying the Seagate 14TB HDD Exos to backup all my games/movies. Would that be a good pick? Yes I need that much space.

  • @SebiKoerner
    @SebiKoerner Před rokem

    Even though I will only run a 4-Bay nas with 4 drives, I'll still get Exos drives. Yes they're louder but the 14TB Versions I'm considering are substeantially cheaper. The NAS will really only be an archival system to store my RAW Video files.

  • @ronstewtsaw
    @ronstewtsaw Před rokem

    Prices are pretty low on 12TB Ironwolf drives right now (October 2022). Cheaper than 10TB sometimes. Do you reckon that they are being discontinued? Should I jump now?

  • @fransdigitalmediaservices3912

    Can you mix the drives in a NAS drive, eg, 2 EXOS and 2 IRON Wolf Drives

  • @kennethcampingdiary1976
    @kennethcampingdiary1976 Před 2 měsíci

    Dont know should i buy ironwolf pro or exos, exos sounds and look better to me lol
    I mainly use my NAS synology 220j for BT everyday

  • @MNGermann
    @MNGermann Před rokem

    All my WD red are dead… 2x drives each time. Now I’m running ironwolf (and barracuda only for backup)

  • @TerrySmith1953
    @TerrySmith1953 Před 2 lety

    Here in BC, Canada IronWolf are generally more expensive than WD Red.

  • @2ndAveScents
    @2ndAveScents Před rokem

    Out of all the brands of HDD’s I’ve owned over the years I only ever had two fail. One internal and one external and they were both Seagate. I’m thinking of setting up a small Raid NAS for me and my family to use and looking at Seagate again because of the price and benchmarks, but can anyone chime in on their personal experience with Ironwolf and/or Exos drives?

  • @mavchb
    @mavchb Před 2 lety

    I was planning to get a DS 920+ and put 18TB Exos HDDs in, now I saw that they are not on the compatibility list of Synology. Do you have any expierience with those drives in Synology NASes?

  • @tank1demon
    @tank1demon Před rokem

    do the exos run on full blast at all times, or do they power down/idle when not reading/writing, like consumer drives?

  • @tedy2777
    @tedy2777 Před rokem

    i dont know if it's just bad luck but the ONLY hdd to fail on me twice were Seagate. Rest of the HD i use are currently WD. The recent one died a couple days ago literally a few months after the warranty ran out. Is seagate even worth buying still?

  • @damightyshabba439
    @damightyshabba439 Před měsícem

    I know this is an old video - so the likelyhood of getting an answer is low. But.... I'll ask. I have a B450 Mobo - 5600X, 32GB DDR4, 2TB Nvme. I tried to attach a 12TB SSD - and.... nothing. I've tried lots of ways.... it just doesn't like it. Am I doing somethijng wrong? If I'm doing something daft and can fix it - i'll buy another few... but... i think i'm probably breaking the chipset barrier etc. Any advice?

  • @djsaekrakem3608
    @djsaekrakem3608 Před 2 lety +1

    The 4tb seagates from a few years ago have been very reliable for me. Most of the failures seem to be the high capacity 8tb and higher capacities.

    • @babbjos
      @babbjos Před 2 lety

      I have had 3 4tb drives fail. Backblaze drove report show seagate the highest failure rates so I am thinking of switching.

    • @TheFourthWinchester
      @TheFourthWinchester Před 2 lety +1

      @@babbjos Backblaze also uses mainly Seagate only. That means they are more reliable than WD.

  • @henlofren7321
    @henlofren7321 Před 28 dny

    Every seagate drive that I have ever purchased has failed within 3 years, purchased new. I still have 10+ year old WD drives that work great without a single failure so far, and I purchased most of them heavily used...

  • @blake4311
    @blake4311 Před 8 měsíci

    what do you recommened for my pc?

  • @melodycgeorge
    @melodycgeorge Před rokem

    Can I use a Seagate Ironwolf drive as a single-use drive for now, and then add it to a NAS setup later?

  • @brandonstews238
    @brandonstews238 Před 2 lety +6

    Exos cheaper than ironwolf at this moment. Went for the exos and I’m excited for them! Four 14tb entering my data hoarding life!

    • @6806goats1
      @6806goats1 Před 2 lety

      Went with the same drives in my DS916+ but one recently crashed in 6 months. Hoping it's just a fluke deal, trying to work with Seagate now on the replacement. Thinking about going to a DS1621+, just purchased another drive as a backup to get the current NAS back online. Maybe both new drives will arrive around the same time and rebuild the volume. Guess I should repair the volume 1 drive at a time. With the DS1621+ not sure if I'll stay with one drive SHR or move to a 2 drive SHR. Unless there are reasons to use 2 drives, I'll try to stay with a 1 drive SHR.

  • @TexasBulldog74
    @TexasBulldog74 Před rokem

    a year later i just bought a 16tb ironwolf pro for $309 on Amazon. Man the prices really dropped luckily.

  • @j7ndominica051
    @j7ndominica051 Před rokem

    What does it matter to the drive how many "bays" there are in total? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but you mean other simultaneously connected drives to a computer. Now Barracudas DM are SMR, and VX are still CMR. Until this happened, how could a drive be "geared" towards a certain performance? It's not that a VX is unable to read. I use them in my computers.

  • @RyanPoehls
    @RyanPoehls Před rokem

    I bought an 8TB Seagate and it must have been a mistake as it only have 150 Gb capacity on it. I verified the correct format and drive type and still 150 GB for what should be 8 TB. Returning it to Target.

  • @Bashyman
    @Bashyman Před rokem

    Is the Seagate EXOS X18 18TB compatible with the DS423+? Not on their list

  • @benjamintrathen6119
    @benjamintrathen6119 Před 2 lety

    Al Barracuda drives 2TB or over are SMR, only the 1TB is CMR in the Barracuda family. That's why I went Barracuda Pro for my HDD 4 years back, all of the Pro versions are CMR.

  • @dheerajjadhav12
    @dheerajjadhav12 Před 2 lety

    Seagate IronWolf Pro 16 TB ST16000NE000 - 2RW103 . Synology says Hibernation feature is NOT recommended for this drive. What does that mean ?

  • @BrianAz
    @BrianAz Před 2 lety

    Excellent

  • @brainz406
    @brainz406 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello! I want to ask about ironwolf pro. Can i use it for external hard drive ? Also is it worth the price with reliability and data storage compared to Barracuda Pro? Thank you so much

    • @raiuno90
      @raiuno90 Před 2 lety

      You can use an Ironwolf Pro as an external storage drive (in a suitable case), however, you won't be taking advantage of many of the Ironwolf features. A Barracuda drive would in my view be a better fit for an external drive that is NOT in some form of RAID array.

  • @fredashay
    @fredashay Před 11 měsíci

    I know this video is 2 years old by now, but I hope you can answer a question...
    I want a large HDD that's at least 16 TB.
    But I don't want layering, or helium, or other gimmicks.
    What are my options?

  • @RobFisherUK
    @RobFisherUK Před 3 lety +4

    Seriously considering these now after decades of WD use. Wasn't there also a scandal about the RPM speed of WD drives? I think I want 5200rpm for my fanless Linux PC I am using as a NAS in my lounge (I want quiet and cool; don't care about speed)

  • @babbjos
    @babbjos Před 2 lety

    I keep having ironwolf drives fail. I was looking into HGST drives to swap out.

  • @NightOwlGames
    @NightOwlGames Před rokem

    my seagate compute 8TB is annoying the hell outta me, its just a few months old, when i bought the drive i just Quick formatted 2 times as i read thats what you do with a new drive, i installed games from steam, it starts been funny, i power on my PC the Bios/intro screen automatically starts scanning and repairing this drive, everytime i reboot my pc it does this, drive does show in windows and appears to be working its accessable however thoughtout the day the desktop will give me a popup about this drive needing a repair also steam is refuseing to update games due to a currupt disk? its not dead its just been awkward, also having issues in games with loading. any ideas?

  • @vollhorst140
    @vollhorst140 Před rokem +1

    My opinion on HDD OEMs
    WesternDigital: you can’t buy anything from es because wd is straight up lying or changing the specs and components of their drives without disclosing it. You get what wd has in the garbage bin at that point in time. And expensive.
    Seegate: cheap buy least reliable of the 3 oems
    Toshiba: somewhere in between the other two without the lying of WD. My actual go to brand.

  • @RogierYou
    @RogierYou Před rokem

    They have a great warranty only wish one should have to use to so often 🤣

  • @CheerupA1
    @CheerupA1 Před 3 měsíci

    4 is actually an even number. You're welcome.

  • @penguinjoe1961
    @penguinjoe1961 Před rokem

    Seagate also sneaked in SMR drives too.

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před rokem

      To be fair to them, they didn't *sneak* them, they released them, clearly he highlighting them as shingled drives. The big debate and (to a point) controversy that has risen in the past 2+ yrs around SMR is that another well known brand released NAS drives then years after, had to highlight they were SMR drives - a less NAS suitable drive, especially under constant use without time to restructure data internally vs CMR/PMR drives. As long as brands CLEARLY highlight which drives at launch/data sheets are SMR, it's mostly ok, as SMR drive so have their utility in certain setups

  • @JanaBuvari
    @JanaBuvari Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've had two seagate Ironwolfs die less than a year old, one 14TB one 10TB

  • @raiuno90
    @raiuno90 Před 2 lety +15

    Loved the video. My main reason for choosing EXOS over Ironwolf or Ironwolf Pro is the longer service life on the EXOS drives, 2.5mln vs the Ironwolf 1.2mln. All that on a drive that is typically 10%-15% cheaper. I have a total of 36 drives across 2 x Synology NAS systems and the EXOS outperforms the Ironwolf, Pro & WD Golds.

    • @sidundead13
      @sidundead13 Před 2 lety

      how is the noise level for exo drives ?

    • @raiuno90
      @raiuno90 Před 2 lety

      @@sidundead13 Its quiet enough for me as I have my NAS in the storage room. My Rackstation NAS makes a huge amount of fan noise so I wouldnt hear the drives anyway.

    • @2ndAveScents
      @2ndAveScents Před rokem

      What do you use them for if you don’t mind me asking?

    • @tank1demon
      @tank1demon Před rokem

      @@raiuno90 how's the noise compared to the old hgst nastars?

    • @raiuno90
      @raiuno90 Před rokem +1

      @@2ndAveScents Media library, Photo & Video editing. The NAS is located in a storage room, so noise wise it's unnoticeable

  • @CptnKremmen
    @CptnKremmen Před 3 měsíci

    I dropped WD for Seagate when it came to upgrading my NAS during this fiasco as I really couldn't be bothered to fight my way through WD's HDD specs; it waws far easier to use Seagate as they weren't obfuscating their HDD specs.

  • @PaoloScaramuzzino
    @PaoloScaramuzzino Před rokem

    Thanks

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před rokem

      Thanks for the donation buddy. Hugely appreciate your proactive support and going the extra mile to pay it forward. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar! Have a fantastic Sunday

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Před 10 měsíci

      Hi bud! Quick Message. Can you fire me an email on robbie (@) nascompares (dot com), it’s regarding bit of fun content I am working on for the channel and I am inviting those that donated to the channel or regular supporters/commentors along. Can really fire it here in the comments. Cheers in advance and look forward to hearing from you! p.s. Reading this message back, it sounds REALLY SPAMMY! Sorry for the cryptic nonsense and believe me, this is legit...I hate seagulls… I pronounce Router right/wrong….. quid… knicker…. Etc. I hope this convinces you I am me! *triggers existential crisis*

  • @dsee1774
    @dsee1774 Před rokem +1

    How about Toshiba 12TB? Is the quality ok?

  • @bjtaudio
    @bjtaudio Před 2 měsíci

    The price is about the same for a Exos is slightly cheaper than the Ironwolf standard NAS drive now.