Do Not Buy These Tools!
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Don't waste your money on these tools.
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I used to agree with you on the calipers, but then I bought my mitutoyos. Easily one of my most used tools now. Accuracy is never in question; it has been zeroed once since I bought it and it has stayed zeroed since, meaning I can open and close it countless times, and it'll still read the same at a measurement taken a bunch of times. Also, the battery life is amazing. Literally rated in years because of the tech mitutoyo put in it. When it auto shuts off, it's actually shutting off, and not just putting the screen to sleep like the cheap ones do, which still saps the battery.
Great video. 🙂
I bought that #1 a couple years ago. Used it once. Was the only tool I’ve ever returned.
I completely agree with your assessment of the corner clamps. I bought a set and returned them within a couple of days. I see someone else wrote that they are better suited for picture frames, and that makes sense.
Awesome. I was actually on the fence about getting that kreg attachment, instead of a dedicated track saw and just never pulled the trigger on either, because like you, I built a super cheap edge guide myself and it works so much better than free handing it, I just can’t justify buying a dedicated unit.
Ditto on the kreg Accu cut. I could never cut straight. My cuts were more like parabolas than lines. Now I free hand my cuts a little large and then do it right in the table saw.
I'll agree with the Kreg tracksaw, although the Kreg Rip-Cut attachment has been accurate to about 1/32" when attached to my Milwaukee M18 Fuel 6.5" saw. I'm not saying it'll replace my Makita track saw or my cabinet saw, but for ripping sheet goods down to size it's a lot more convenient than manhandling full sheets in the cabinet saw or digging out the track saw. It's funny how Kreg can make a cheaper solution that's better than their more expensive solution to do essentially the same job!
Agree. The rip cut (though sorta clumsy in the fact that you need the attachment on your saw all the time) does make an accurate rip cut if you don't want to wrestle a full sheet on your table saw.
True. I own three of the mentioned. Luckily they were sale items (corner clamps, hole saw, and air paint sprayer.
I've got a set of those 90 degree clamps you started with but have never used them, so I was thinking this was not going to go well, but that was the only one, thankfully. Some great tips here. When it comes to tools, you definitely get what you pay for, as a rule. Thanks for sharing!
Completely agree with the kreg track saw kit. It was complete garbage, and the base wouldn’t even fit on my saw! I had to ruin my nice Dewalt saw by super gluing the base on, only to realize afterwards that it was absolute dog s***. But on the other hand, I think mastercraft revised their design on those calipers, because I haven’t had an issue with them! I’ve used high end Igaging and Mitutuoyo calipers, and I’d say the mastercraft ones I bought are just as good… great video!
Agreed, I'm sure the ones I got just missed quality and is the exception but still happened to me so not much I can do but give my experience.
I have an accu-cut and the saw compatibility was complete garbage! I had to jump through hoops to make it fit my circ saw
Good to know. I was just about to buy one because I didn't want to spend $5-600 on a true track saw.
Dear Brad, THANK YOU for sharing your experiences. Your insights here will help many woodworkers, and hopefully, convince manufacturers and retailers step up their game in the process.
Add in Kreg’s Rip Cut. Complete piece of garbage. I cut the most beautiful gentle curve by using the perfectly straight factory edge on a very expensive sheet of plywood because that worthless piece of garbage could not securely hold my circular saw no matter how tightly I turned the screws. Kreg needs to stick to pocket screws.
Tossed the Rip Cut in the trash can and bought a Makita track saw. It is a dream to use. Worth every penny.
Agree on these.
I too have the Kreg track, but I fixed the slop by adding pieces of tape along the track to "tighten" it up. Works much better. But I find I hardly ever get the whole setup out anymore and instead use the track as a straight edge.
I just bought sanding disc's for my orbital sander on Amazon for next to nothing. Thanks for the idea. Not Sure why I never thought of buying them on Amazon.
I have the same Bosch sander. The problem I have with it is the dust box keeps cracking (twice so far) and I have to spend $20 to gat a new one or tape it up every time I empty it.
Haven't had that happen. It is tricky to get off for sure.
Oh no...My shop is crap!! :poopemoji:
Funny thing is I have exactly the same two hole saws and I can't agree with you more! Princess Auto is OK for some stuff, but some is just crap
Taking the Battery out of the calipers is not a pain as leaving it in and finding it flat when I come to use them, The cheap Hole saws are great for smoking Kippers.
As a guy that only dabbles in woodworking, thanks a lot for saving my wallet 👍 gotta admit that I've looked at a lot of these and just hadn't pull the trigger yet because I didn't actually need them
I'm into that track saw guide!
Where can I find the plans?.. ;)
If you want a few more of those red corner clamps I have some that I bought about 30 years ago and are in mint condition. They are pretty dusty from sitting on a shelf all those years unused.
Worth it putting a bit more upfront into a decent countersink, if you're doing a lot of casework. $20 at Lee Valley will get you a solid counterbore and stop collar that can attach to any drill bit. At my shop I use a 9/64 hss brad point bit for the usual #8 screws with a #6 stop collar and it's never let me down. Probably get a solid year of use out of it unless I'm drilling into a lot of laminate
Really good tips! I am definitely gonna pull the trigger on a Wagner - been thinking about it way too long
I love mine. Think it was on sale for 120 few years ago. Just make sure the second your done spraying take it apart and clean it. If you let it dry with stuff in it you've got a paper weight.
I have that Kreg track saw, and while I don't think I have *nearly* as much slop as you did, I also found it really hard to get a good cut from it. And if you used the track extension, it was virtually guaranteed to end up crooked at that joint, no matter what I did.
I upgraded to a ridiculously expensive track saw for a big project, but I think if I had to do it over again I'd follow one of the guides I've see on CZcams for making my own.
I'm not a fan of your tracksaw because you can't see the cut line while placing the guide. I'd want one that is only on the fat side of the saw.
I am happy to say that the only tool on that list that I have in my shop is the honorable mention clamps. Everything else I have successfully avoided like the plague 😁
great input on the Kreg track saw. Will make my own like you did. Great idea.
No, no. That Dado stack was designed like that to give you extra surface area for the gluing step. It's like when you sand metal before painting or applying adhesive so it grabs better. 🤣
So it's NOT my imagination... the Kreg Track saw thingy really *IS* a total steaming pile of $#@! And BTW I purchased the hole saw thing I think from Harbor Freight, yeah, that's really a good way to get into circular wood-burning... Keep these warning videos coming, this is really good to know before I make any more mistakes!
Awesome tips. We have those red corner clamps. Ha. I agree they suck.
I’ve wanted one of those fly cutter hole saw things just for the 6 inch PVC openings on some tool cabinets/carts. I should check for the cheap hole saws. Harbor Freight might have something. Either way I think I’m making a template out of scrap. Then I can use that template, hog out the middle with jigsaw, and clean up with router. Still really annoying because either a fly cutter isn’t big enough or hole saws that size are 30 dollars and up.
When you make a best buys list make sure the Mickey chalk board is #1 please. Functionality and style? C’mon!
In hind sight the dado set is good steel for cutting up for knife blanks!
Those f🤬cking hole saw kits!
Funny, I have about 17 sets of those cheap hole saws because I can never find my good set. I'm going to take your advice on the paint gun, thank you. I'm about to start trim and doors on my whole house, all painted.
Any of the name brand hole saws are good - I would look for one with a sliding arbor, You can always pick up the saws (I cant think of the name) that home depot sales individually pretty cheap.
I have several of the spray guns if you are spraying contact cement or a automotive finish they are pretty good... I have spray hundereds of gallons of contact cement with them. If you are spraying a latex or another thick paint they will not work.
A tad dramatic about the corner clamps haha. Reminded me of the clumsy people in infomercials haha
Damn i should redo this episode with infomercial antics lol.
had the clamps - they were junk, If you want corner clamps make some that you can clamp with F clamps, I have several of the spray guns, I use them to spray contact cement for laminate and automotive grade finishes they work great. Just get a good air sander and be done with it. Get a good countersinklike Amana55202, I am saving up for the chaulkboard now.
Possibly my biggest regret in life was waisting my money on a Kreg track. What a steaming pile of crap. I can free hand a straighter cut…
I hate to admit it, but I have several of the these items! The worst one by far are the clamps and corner clamps. One smelly pile for sure! It is worth a few extra bucks to invest in better quality tools. I wait until I can afford them and have for the most part never been disappointed. Was surprised about "King Kreg", glad I didn't pull the trigger on that one. Thanks for the honest reviews!! Best to you from the U.S. 😃
“ Buy once, cry once! :)
I'm finally at the point in my life I can afford to start crying.
Yeah... I made the sander mistake. 😬
I do need to buy an orbital. But my business is sucking all my money. 😕
Anyway, thanks a lot for all the tips, dude!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Some 3d printed pads from TPU would be a great addition to the #2 clamp!
Agreed. Though I think I'm gonna spend some time and glue on my rubber mat I used on my vise jaws.
@@DIYBuilds oh nice, I have TPU pads on my vice now and they're amazing. Easily removable and have notches for holding things. And don't leave imprints.
The #9 corner holders are not clamps they are corner holding alignment clamps if used properly they work great they are not for clamping the joint tight they are for holding the corner of the joint while you press and nail with nail gun try it out
Well said!
I have yet to find a dado stack that leaves a flat cut. If you find one lmk please.
you will get a little ridges no matter what - a router will give you the best if you get a shallow bit(like a mortise bit) and and clean them up
Can you do a review on your Wagner Spray gun? I’ve wanted to get one but I saw a lot of bad reviews online. A lot of people seem to have issues cleaning them.🤔
You have to clean it right after using it or you will brick it. Other than that it's great.
You have to make sure you clean them out really well other wise they are trash, I learned from experience. I have several of the sipon spray guns that I use for contact cement for laminate and automotive finishes and the are pretty good.
Aw man.. I recognize too many tools from your list, and yes they are gathering dust because of those reasons..
That intro was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I bought the kreg crap track.
6:15 giggity
Yea I have no idea how the kreg track saw had such good reviews. I hate how it mounts to the saw and how sloppy it is. Never cut right
Those clamps indeed are disappointed tool , I hate them 😑
Good video, I will not buy those crap tools. Main reason is, I also learnt a long time ago there is a difference between cheapest and dearest tools. In other words "You get what you paid for". After a few days of R&R... I'll be ready for more action!
#10 must have been really bad for you to not mention it, that being said I was gifted a few of these gems I smiled, thanked them and buried them in the shed
That honorable mention clamp. I bought 6 of them years ago. That little metal tab that goes in the indent…yea, all 6 snapped. Never again! All Bessy, Irwin and Jorgensen now. Buy once cry once!!!
I had several years ago - I cut them up and used the bars to hold shelves up - they were as bad as you can get for a clamp - The normal F style clamps that HF sales are not bad
@@tomr3422 I agree! I have a handful of them.
Just gotta go through them good. Some are insanely twisted. The swivel screw helps but some are unusable.
I won’t use them for glue ups that need to stay lined up. Mostly just to hold jigs or temporary things.
if you search for excellent orbital sanders look out for Mirka sanders.
Totally agree with the Kreg accu-cut. At first I thought it was just me, or my saw or technique. But no, the tool itself is absolute butt
I've bought the corner clamps, they do suck! I always thought about buying the Kreg accu cut, glad I never bought it!
Lol don't!
What was that old saying?
"Don't blame the tools. Blame the carpenter". LOL
You can buy some inexpensive tools that work great especially at the hobbyist level, however like you said some of them are just crap.
I have the same crappy hole saw that you mentioned and a few others that deserve to be in the scrap heap.
You have to understand the limits of any tool and work within them but some are just totally useless.
Great video with great info. Possibly worth another beer.
;)
Its a poor craftsman that blames his tools - Some of the stuff is just so ill made its non functional.
I’m with you on most of this, but the hate for pneumatic hvlp is confusing me. Pneumatic hvlp guns are far superior to electric. I’ve even painted a car with mine and it turned out fantastic. You do need a beefy compressor and a slightly pricier gun, but they’re so much better, there’s just no question about it. I think you just had a junk gun. Try a gravity feed hvlp next time. Even the $10 purple harbor freight gun works fine in a pinch.
We all buy crap tools. I think its some sort of right of passage :-) I have those countersink bits and they really do suck.
Anyone want to buy my Harbor Freight dado stack and counter sink bit set?
Did you try shimming the slop outta that saw?
Not worth it. The trapezoid shape makes the fundimental design flawed.
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
For a pretty smart guy, I am surprised you would even consider buy low quality tools. I guess we all have to learn the hard way.
We live within our means. I'm not rich.
@@DIYBuilds and it doesn’t make sense to pay premium price just for a name on a tool ……I have tons of name brand budget busting tools but also several tools that are cheap but work fine.
Haha... I have had three of the seven.
I'm not subscribing until I get a #10 damnit.
I disagree with your take on #6 hole saws.
The inherent issue with hole saws is friction. Burning is a symptom of friction. There’s techniques that can overcome the friction issue. I bought that cheap set a decade ago and it’s still going strong.
Something you can do to prevent burning on the drill press is to clamp the wood so it doesn’t move around. Take smaller bites too.
For hand held you don’t want to drill straight down perpendicular, you want to rock it back and forth a little, like a spinning top that’s about to fall over and wobbling, so you remove material on the walls so it cuts a hole slightly bigger than the outer diameter of the hole saw, so there’s less friction.
Less friction= less heat = less chance you ruin the temper and the teeth go soft.
I know what you mean but that cheap set has terrible tooth design to begin with. Too small for wood.
Wax them before use.
Too late. Made most of those mistakes already!
Evidently you guys are not setting up the Kreig track correctly. I've had one for several years and I'm totally satisfied. Take the time to set them up correctly and you're good to go. And yes my cuts are straight. They perform accurately time after time period.
No. As described in the video the mechanism is inherently flawed leading to a sloppy cut.
At 8:35. I made a similar saw-guide a while back; it was very useful. After I had been using it for a while, I watched a CZcams video showing a simple mod that made it SOOO much better!
All you need to do is drill 1.5" (40mm) holes approximately every 12" (300mm) along the saw-slot. this allows you to see your pencil lines on the workpiece, so you can accurately line up your cut.
Even your mankiest cheap holesaw should do the job!
Thanks to Tommy who showed it on his "One Minute Workbench" channel. czcams.com/video/H0BZLbW1lvQ/video.html
He also did an improved version which looks even better; I have not made one of these. czcams.com/video/Fc77cL8ReBQ/video.html
BTW: I have some of those corner-clamps you showed at the start that I was considering donating to you if you are interested? Nah?? I thought not! 😉
am i seeing a good cheap tool top 10 in the near future?
I do admit that the corner clamps Are 100% S*#t, the dado blades works good for me (maybe you just happen to get a bad set) the counter bore bits Yes they suck even I wondered why they are tapered and they clog so bad after 1 use that to have to Disassemble them to clean out the flutes, Like I was told BUY the best even if it means 1 tool that fits your budget, the rest yes 100% DOODOO, I nevered used the Tracksaw I made my own
The trick with those combined countersink bits is to remove the stop collar so it doesn't clog, and replace the drill with a regular twist bit.
I have been getting the Amana 55202 counter sinks for years they are around $30 US but so worth it, if you dont break the bit they last for ever and when you do I replace them with a cheap bit. I have home made 90's and 45's that I use with F clamps that work great... The get what you pay for saying has slapped me across the face several times
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I built this track for my cordless B&D circular saw (diablo blade & extended battery so it averages out to a decent tool) a couple years ago and its served me well. The sight holes make it easier to line up the cut:
czcams.com/video/H0BZLbW1lvQ/video.html
Now, do a review on your exes
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Boughten? Boughten. Oookay.
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Boughten 😂
DO not buy these crap tools + some you should... Thanks!