Fatal crash of a Piper PA-24-250 Comanche near Oakland Southwest Airport (Y47), New Hudson, Michigan

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2023
  • On January 2, 2021, about 1541 eastern standard time, a Piper PA-24-250 airplane, N8347P, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near New Hudson, Michigan. The pilot and two passengers were fatally injured. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 personal flight.
    As the airplane approached the destination, the pilot requested VFR (visual flight rules) flight following and was issued a discrete beacon code. He asked if there were any pilot reports (PIREPs) for icing in the area and was told there had not been any in the last hour. The pilot then requested the VOR-A approach into Y47. The pilot stated that if he missed the approach, he would divert to another airport. The pilot was vectored to intercept the VOR-A final approach course and was given a pilot report from a pilot who landed at a nearby airport who reported the cloud base to be 300 ft with no ice descending through the layers. The accident pilot said he would “give it (the approach) a shot.
    Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) data showed the airplane approach the airport at an altitude of about 2,000 ft and 100 knots (kts). It passed over the airport and began to decelerate in a left descending turn to 1,475 ft and 85 kts. The airplane entered a second tighter turn and descended to 1,150 ft and 60 kts. Track data was lost at 1541:20. The last recorded altitude and airspeed were 975 ft and 71 kts. near the accident location.
    A residential security camera captured the accident. The sound of an aircraft engine is audible on the recording. The sound goes away and returns, but is louder. Once again, the sound disappears and is heard again with the airplane coming into view in a left wing low, nose low descent. The wings and nose level off just before the airplane impacts the ground in a flat attitude. The airplane slides across the ground, impacts a house, and a fire erupts. The airplane was destroyed during the postimpact fire.
    A pilot who was in a hangar at the airport reported hearing the airplane fly over the airport twice. He thought the airplane was trying to land and he reported hearing the engine power increase both times as if the pilot was performing a go-around. This pilot reported that the weather conditions at the time consisted of a low ceiling, “heavy clouds”, light mist, and rain.
    A NOTAM (Notice to Air Missions) was issued for the VOR-A approach at the destination airport. Although the NOTAM stated the VOR portion of the approach was unavailable it is unlikely that this played a role in the accident as the pilot had overflown the airport on the approximate approach course and was circling the area when the accident occurred. There was no record that the non-instrument rated pilot obtained a weather briefing or filed a flight plan for his flight.
    The pilot had logged 41.5 hours of simulated instrument flight time, 15.2 of those hours were with an instructor. Additionally, he had logged 99.6 hours under actual instrument conditions, 4.8 hour of which were with an instructor, for a total of 141.1 instrument hours. The pilot was not instrument rated and was not trained to fly in the weather conditions that existed during the accident flight.
    An examination of the airplane, engine, and related systems revealed no mechanical anomalies that would have precluded normal operations. It is likely that while maneuvering in instrument meteorological conditions while trying to locate the runway, the non-instrument rated pilot failed to maintain the proper airspeed, which resulted in the exceedance of the airplane’s critical angle of attack and the airplane experiencing an aerodynamic stall.
    Probable Cause: The pilot’s failure to maintain proper airspeed and his exceedance of the airplane’s critical angle of attack, which resulted in an aerodynamic stall. Contributing to the accident was the pilot’s lack of an instrument rating and the low visibility at the time of the accident.

Komentáře • 46

  • @arthouston7361
    @arthouston7361 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Probably the most important takeaway of an accident like this is that it was 100% avoidable…..had the pilot been following the rules.

  • @kewkabe
    @kewkabe Před 10 měsíci +4

    Attempting a circling approach when ceilings are 300-600 feet is just stupidity. Then not breaking out but doing the circling in IMC anyway is beyond stupidity.

  • @VidClips858
    @VidClips858 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Always know who you're flying with. Know their experiences and limitations. Ask questions before you fly.

  • @johnparkman5980
    @johnparkman5980 Před 10 měsíci +7

    He shouldn't have been flying at all under those conditions, especially without an IFR rating.

  • @ericlozen9631
    @ericlozen9631 Před 10 měsíci

    I did a couple of training flights into Y47 from PTK when I was working on my Private.

  • @dont6441
    @dont6441 Před 10 měsíci +4

    So sad to see this type of accident happen over and over. Should never have happened, especially while carrying passengers. The initial point of impact was very severe. Probably suffered fatal injuries before the fire started.

    • @tropicthndr
      @tropicthndr Před 10 měsíci

      That’s the huge lie all general aviation pilots tell their girlfriends, wives and kids when they ask the pilot, “is it safe”. Ninety percent of them don’t have an A&P license and they just lie straight out and tell them “Oh don’t worry” bla bla bla, not having any idea what makes an airplane tick. Dumb people with money.

    • @mlx39996
      @mlx39996 Před 10 měsíci +1

      wow you really just assume GA pilots have gfs/wives… its 2023

  • @eradicator187
    @eradicator187 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Sometimes you don't get probation.

  • @cnknguyen
    @cnknguyen Před 10 měsíci +5

    Dan will have a video on this and mark it as a messed up go-around on his list. looks like his flaps were up, and according to that ADS-B data they were just too slow.

    • @tropicthndr
      @tropicthndr Před 10 měsíci

      This was in 2021, it’s either already in his file or he isn’t going to waste time with it since it’s really old news.

  • @PhillipSalyers-pd3tp
    @PhillipSalyers-pd3tp Před 10 měsíci

    Who is screaming?

  • @tomtheplummer7322
    @tomtheplummer7322 Před 10 měsíci

    I live by Jeffco now Metropolitan airport. I get buzzed every day.

  • @TrainSounds
    @TrainSounds Před 8 měsíci

    It all happened while a family in that Home was about to watch Shrek 2 on their tv. Fortunately, that family made it out alive.

  • @PfizerRN_USNavyReserveRN
    @PfizerRN_USNavyReserveRN Před 10 měsíci +1

    About as classic as spatial disorientation can get

    • @ericlozen9631
      @ericlozen9631 Před 10 měsíci

      Icing

    • @PfizerRN_USNavyReserveRN
      @PfizerRN_USNavyReserveRN Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@ericlozen9631 That would be a positive “NO”
      NTSB > Aerodynamic stall coupled with pilot failure to maintain instrument rating. IIMC tricks your inner ear to think you’re flying straight and level, when you’re actually in a descending spiral turn

    • @ericlozen9631
      @ericlozen9631 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@PfizerRN_USNavyReserveRN Appreciate the feedback.

  • @reggiepaulk
    @reggiepaulk Před 9 měsíci +5

    A NOTAM is a Notice to Airmen… always had been and no amount of wokery will change it.

  • @Darkvirgo88xx
    @Darkvirgo88xx Před 10 měsíci +4

    Dont carry passengers if your not IFR rated and proficient. Even if you are still have your limits it looks horrible out why would you even attempt to fly in that.

    • @nutsackmania
      @nutsackmania Před 10 měsíci +2

      lol what? you can bring some folks VFR on a nice day

    • @Darkvirgo88xx
      @Darkvirgo88xx Před 10 měsíci

      @@nutsackmania I meant on a day like this one.

    • @darreno1450
      @darreno1450 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I agree. VFR can turn to IMC and end in disaster in a matter of minutes. And there are no do-overs. Getting an instrument rating should be a must for every GA pilot.

  • @marcrobert-vi2mj
    @marcrobert-vi2mj Před 10 měsíci +2

    Damm he almost pulled out of it.leveled off but not high enuff

  • @harrybaulz666
    @harrybaulz666 Před 10 měsíci

    Smells like bbq

  • @stevefisher2553
    @stevefisher2553 Před 10 měsíci +2

    New money people thinking it's like driving a car.

  • @animaxima8302
    @animaxima8302 Před 10 měsíci +3

    they can't pay me enough to fly GA

  • @CAROLUSPRIMA
    @CAROLUSPRIMA Před 10 měsíci

    I comment on this channel because I have been blocked on a channel called “Aviation Disaster Investigations.”
    The reporting and analysis on that channel is excellent but there is a huge issue here.
    That channel is plagiarizing a blogger. The AI narration is taken word for word. This is bad form at best and possibly criminal copyright infringement.
    So watch if you want but remember this before bestowing compliments or cash on these characters.
    Many such channels are coming out of India and Pakistan but I have no information as to the origin of this one.

    • @aviationaccidentsthisdayinhist
      @aviationaccidentsthisdayinhist  Před 10 měsíci

      lmao what are you talking about ? I am the same guy from facebook if you are talking about that "blogger", these are the NTSB narratives in the description.

    • @CAROLUSPRIMA
      @CAROLUSPRIMA Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@aviationaccidentsthisdayinhist No, I’m not referring to your channel. If you have another channel with the precise name I have mentioned above the content comes from Admiral Cloudberg. Or at least some of them do. The early episodes are straight from Wikipedia.
      Aviation Accidents/This Day In History is a great channel. I’m a subscriber and I am not blocked from commenting.

    • @aviationaccidentsthisdayinhist
      @aviationaccidentsthisdayinhist  Před 10 měsíci

      @@CAROLUSPRIMA Oh, yeah Admiral is great, I've never really those youtube channels anyway

  • @EyeForKnowledge.
    @EyeForKnowledge. Před 10 měsíci +3

    Alive long enough to feel that impact. YOWZER I bet that hurt. Knocked unconscious and burned to death. Not thanks. I’ll stick to flight simulator.

    • @cessna177flyer3
      @cessna177flyer3 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Yes, there are risks in GA flying. Some are unavoidable/unknowable. I know that and mitigate risk as much as I can before each flight, but there is always some risk. But that is not the case here. Flying in low instrument conditions without an instrument rating and flying an approach NOTAMed out of service is just stupid and entirely preventable. Don’t base your decision to “stick to flight simulator” on accidents like these. They are 100% pilot-induced and preventable.

    • @bwittig7622
      @bwittig7622 Před 10 měsíci +2

      And your car where that could NEVER happen

    • @EyeForKnowledge.
      @EyeForKnowledge. Před 10 měsíci

      @@bwittig7622 Falling out of the sky, impacting the ground and exploding? Nope. That’s impossible in a car. You know, because cars can’t fly.

    • @kewkabe
      @kewkabe Před 10 měsíci

      @@EyeForKnowledge. You could drive off a cliff or an overpass.

    • @CherylPix62
      @CherylPix62 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@EyeForKnowledge.No, but under icy/windy/blizzard/fog conditions there’s a lot of idiots behind the wheel of cars! Not to mention the people who drive drunk or buzzed!

  • @jamesspikes
    @jamesspikes Před 6 měsíci

    Probably made it until he hit that shed

  • @stevefisher2553
    @stevefisher2553 Před 10 měsíci

    Daily carnage