The difference in sound between these natural V6 Turbo's and today's flat sounding Hybrids is palpable, the roar from this era of Turbo's was truly incredible and 1200bhp 🤯
A 1:07 quando sta' per passare sul traguardo, mi sembra che alzi il pugno destro, quasi come per festeggiare il suo giro perfetto... Simply the best...❤
1200hp almost no downforce, manual gearbox, meaning miss a gear and your engine is gone. No TC, no Halo no Hans. And among the titans the tame those beasts Ayrton rose to the top. He was not scared of the car. The car was scare of him
@@Dischingo They did not literally fall apart after one lap. People here like to exaggerate everything too much. They had a very short lifespan but not like that.
Those V6 turbos were so freaking loud. And i love it!! I was in a Senna tribute back in 2019 where Felipe Massa passed by me accelerating that beast and i almost went deaf.
@@MoniFps I would kill for that opportunity. The v6 turbo era is by far my favorite. It's not an f1 car until it tries to kill you at least once per lap
@@MoniFps So would a sixties Cosworth DFV engine, it's just that todays cars are really quiet in comparison. Also V10 and V12 are way way louder than any turbo eara F1 car.
@@tygobermind3640 Its the insane RPMs they can hit i mean just listen to the difference between a Cossy DFV and Alonso's championship winning Reanult. You right either way, they do make a very iconic battle cry
esse lotus preto e capacete amarelo do Senna parecia um carro perfeito feito para o piloto, era bonito demais de se ver, como Senna marcou a sua época impressionante.
Senna foi um piloto de características inigualáveis . Sua capacidade técnica deixava os adversários perplexos e a todos os fãs que conquistou pelo mundo, a lembrança de um Mito. Obrigado por ter nos proporcionado a alegria de sermos parte de um Brasil vencedor.:
Os liquidificadores são a solução para não termos a f1 100℅ elétrica, continua sendo F1, o passado ficou para trás, essas lendas são legais mas temos um grid incrível para acompanhar hoje em dia
dude look at this man's talent there is simply no one with those skills, it's a mixture of skill, passion, hard work, it's the divine gift that only he has AYRTON SENNA DO BRASIL THE LAST BRAZILIAN HERO
I love the sound mix (Or design?) in this video. It sounds very natural and like you're actually trackside. Modern F1 could learn a thing or two from this video when it comes to capturing the sound!
The Lotus 98T was absolutely terrifying and a great example of why this era of F1 was so dangerous, albeit entertaining and gratifying. You hear a lot of talk about how the new engines sound weak and complaints about the halo and officiating but honestly I'd trade loud, twin turbo insane revving V6s and V10s for no dead drivers in a heartbeat. We lost so many incredible people during the "loud, scary sounding and super fast" era; and yeah, I absolutely love auto racing and my ultimate dream is to lap the Nürburgring but you have to ask, was it really worth it? Was it really worth the lives of people like Senna, Ratzenberger, Villeneuve, etc? I'm sure their loved ones would say no. I'm sure the vast majority of F1 fans would agree. It's not worth it now either.
You can really hear Sennas technique of blipping the throttle through the corners But how did he even think of this? Other drivers tried this and said they found it impossible
Druids is the key to learning the cars rotation under braking. Get close to mastering druids and everything else just folds in place. Not the most important corner but you pretty much learn everything about the car at druids.
We were lucky to have been alive when this was live and Formula One was. Now that it is no more, we are lucky that we have more time to tidy up, do the garden and bung a nice pork roast in the oven. In this way, the fact that Grand Prix racing is gone is a good thing, not a bad thing. Perhaps, the man who has suffered most is Verstappen, since he is the best driver since Schumacher, and there is nothing and nowhere suitably commensurate to his talent in which to compete.
That's really a great question clark. I am going to assume you are talking about the '86 Lotus-Renault vs the '88 McLaren-Honda that won 15/16 races. Apologies if I am telling you something you already know, but the rules of F1 - specifically technical regulations related to the cars themselves - change a lot from year to year. From 1986 to 1988, the main changes were a reduction in allowed fuel (220 litres to 195 to 150), and a reduction in engine boost pressure from unlimited in 1986 to 4 bar in 1987 and to 2.5 bar for 1988. The net effect of this for turbocharged engines was the loss of 250-300hp in race trim and a significantly larger drop in qualifying (because of the loss of qualifying engines/boost. Renault, for example, used to block off their wastegates entirely for qualifying, allowing the engines to run as much boost as they could generate in 1985/6.) In addition to this, during 1986 F1 had two main tyre suppliers, so both Pirelli and Goodyear were supplying the softest tyres they believed could be used effectively. In 1988, F1 had standardized on Goodyear as the sole supplier, meaning the company was able to provide spec tyres as they no longer had a competitor to beat. There were also changes to allowed sizes of wings on the cars in an effort to further reduce cornering speeds and other items. The loss of 'that much' horsepower makes fairly comparing the cars' performance (1986 Lotus-Renault 97T to McLaren Honda MP4/4 from 1988) next to impossible. FWIW I dug out some reference books for the years in question and the fastest race laps for Senna (in 1986) or Senna/Prost (in 1988) at the same circuits with substantially the same weather were on average about 2-2.5 second quicker for the 1986 car. There were some aberrations, however. At Spa the pole time was significantly quicker in '88 than in '86 and the race fast lap was less than 1 second slower in '88 than it had been in '86. At Imola, Prost's sister McLaren 1988 set the fastest race lap at more than a second quicker than Senna's '86 fast lap in the Lotus. If the 1988 car had been allowed to use the same boost level and tyres as the 1986 Lotus, there is little doubt it would have been much faster. But absent controlled conditions (including not only regulations but weather) it is very difficult to make accurate comparisons. Despite the huge loss of power in qualifying, on average the lap times were not massively different across the field from 1987 to '88. At pure power circuits (like Monza) the difference was more than 2.5 secs. As stated above, at Spa and a few other circuits the fastest race laps were comparable. The 1987 Williams-Hondas (running in much closer power and fuel configuration to the 1986 cars than the 1988 cars were allowed) were very much faster than the 1986 Lotus-Renault Senna is in here. Hope this helps!
Ha ha ha, this is absolute shite. I was there at Brands Hatch in 1986. I'd rather watch real footage than this crap. But at least I got a good laugh out of it! 😂😂😂
Ayrton couldn't have been in a more badass looking car.
Proper villain
The difference in sound between these natural V6 Turbo's and today's flat sounding Hybrids is palpable, the roar from this era of Turbo's was truly incredible and 1200bhp 🤯
The growl, the twitching of the car, the freaking speed…..epic
0:35 That is the Edge everyone is looking for
He didn’t use a lot of the kerb on this lap
0:43 🤯
What a car and what a driver😍😍😍😍
This car, this track, this driver... holy f
Every car is iconic with Senna 's yellow helmet behind the wheel but this Lotus JPS and McLaren Marlboro liveries are out of the chart.
The real GOAT
A 1:07 quando sta' per passare sul traguardo, mi sembra che alzi il pugno destro, quasi come per festeggiare il suo giro perfetto... Simply the best...❤
1200hp almost no downforce, manual gearbox, meaning miss a gear and your engine is gone. No TC, no Halo no Hans. And among the titans the tame those beasts Ayrton rose to the top. He was not scared of the car. The car was scare of him
Said it all my Dud! LOL
They did have rev limiters, dramaqueen.
@@tygobermind3640 😆
@@tygobermind3640 Well they did have quali Engines, quali transmissions and quali tires that would literally fall apart after one quali lap.
@@Dischingo They did not literally fall apart after one lap. People here like to
exaggerate everything too much. They had a very short lifespan but not like that.
Ayrton Senna war der Allerbeste.❗
👍 👏 🤝
Freundlichst Willi . . . 🎩
You can clearly see and hear entering the apex and exiting it, the incommensurate power band ! WOW
Thx
I know the V8, V10, and V12s are known for they're sound but I mean come on, those V6 turbos belong on that list too
Those V6 turbos were so freaking loud. And i love it!! I was in a Senna tribute back in 2019 where Felipe Massa passed by me accelerating that beast and i almost went deaf.
@@MoniFps I would kill for that opportunity. The v6 turbo era is by far my favorite. It's not an f1 car until it tries to kill you at least once per lap
@@MoniFps So would a sixties Cosworth DFV engine, it's just that todays cars are really quiet in comparison. Also V10 and V12 are way way louder than any turbo eara F1 car.
@@tygobermind3640 Its the insane RPMs they can hit i mean just listen to the difference between a Cossy DFV and Alonso's championship winning Reanult. You right either way, they do make a very iconic battle cry
They’re great but not a patch on the v8, v10 or v12s imo! Insulting to those engines to even suggest it belongs on the same list haha
One of the most beautiful cars to grace Formula 1!
That livery and that helmet were golden. Absolute perfection. (Though Senna's helmet looked good in every car.)
Especially the McLarens
my favorite F! driver
TURBO POWER LOTUS AND LEGEND SENNA !!! R.I.P
esse lotus preto e capacete amarelo do Senna parecia um carro perfeito feito para o piloto, era bonito demais de se ver, como Senna marcou a sua época impressionante.
Senna foi um piloto de características inigualáveis . Sua capacidade técnica deixava os adversários perplexos e a todos os fãs que conquistou pelo mundo, a lembrança de um Mito. Obrigado por ter nos proporcionado a alegria de sermos parte de um Brasil vencedor.:
1:01 this is Senna
the entire video is senna thumbass
@@tygobermind3640 he meant the oveerster correction that ayrton did characterized him
@@pianortd4800 As did any other driver.
@@tygobermind3640 yes and no, alain was more smooth and he almost never had that kind of oversteer for example
Que carro , que som de motor que piloto isso sim é a verdadeira F1, não esses liquidificadores ligados de hoje em dia.
E domingueiros como pilotos
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😉😂
Voces detonaram (com razão) a Fórmula 1 atual !!!😃👍
Os liquidificadores são a solução para não termos a f1 100℅ elétrica, continua sendo F1, o passado ficou para trás, essas lendas são legais mas temos um grid incrível para acompanhar hoje em dia
dude look at this man's talent there is simply no one with those skills, it's a mixture of skill, passion, hard work, it's the divine gift that only he has AYRTON SENNA DO BRASIL THE LAST BRAZILIAN HERO
Yeah 3rd position 👏
You know this wasn’t the fastest time?
@@ben6993 yes, if I'm not wrong Piquet had the fastest time
Greatest pilot ever in great cars! Great days they were! Nostalgia.
The great man
I miss Brands Hatch.
Tremendo pilotaso el rey de las pistas el terror de este deporte la f1
What a beast
Bom dia meu Amigo !!!!
Senna, Simplesmente o Melhor.
Foi e sempre será.
Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal.
Abraço do Brasil.......
Modern day Twitch streamer f1 drivers could never handle this beast
But I would love to see them try.
I love the sound mix (Or design?) in this video. It sounds very natural and like you're actually trackside. Modern F1 could learn a thing or two from this video when it comes to capturing the sound!
Listen to him stab the throttle through the corners
human traction control
They all did. It was to keep the pressure going in the turbos
Brilliance all around. Epic drive.
You can hear Senna cracking throttle on and off to gain oversteer then send it.
The Lotus 98T was absolutely terrifying and a great example of why this era of F1 was so dangerous, albeit entertaining and gratifying. You hear a lot of talk about how the new engines sound weak and complaints about the halo and officiating but honestly I'd trade loud, twin turbo insane revving V6s and V10s for no dead drivers in a heartbeat. We lost so many incredible people during the "loud, scary sounding and super fast" era; and yeah, I absolutely love auto racing and my ultimate dream is to lap the Nürburgring but you have to ask, was it really worth it? Was it really worth the lives of people like Senna, Ratzenberger, Villeneuve, etc? I'm sure their loved ones would say no. I'm sure the vast majority of F1 fans would agree. It's not worth it now either.
awesome
Everything F1 is missing today
like turbo v6 engines? no thanks
@@tygobermind3640 they make over 1.3k hp
Woke turns everything to sh8t
You can really hear Sennas technique of blipping the throttle through the corners But how did he even think of this? Other drivers tried this and said they found it impossible
The first Grand Prix I attended
Ferocious car
Brands Hatch takes some real balls and precision. I'd like to try it in a simulator.
Get yourself a Logitech G29 (for PS) or a G920 (for Xbox) and a copy of assetto corsa. It’s great fun to drive one of these round
@@ben6993 Thank you
GOAT!
Bom circuito
Damn it looks fast. Imagine what modern cars would look in Brands Hatch. If the same layout was used they probably would do a 55 seconds lap.
Final boss of GT6
Druids is the key to learning the cars rotation under braking. Get close to mastering druids and everything else just folds in place. Not the most important corner but you pretty much learn everything about the car at druids.
bonito de ver
1986 F1 turbo monster big power in F 1
Big turbo lag too, it was pedal down, wait, wait, bang 1100-1400hp.
We were lucky to have been alive when this was live and Formula One was. Now that it is no more, we are lucky that we have more time to tidy up, do the garden and bung a nice pork roast in the oven. In this way, the fact that Grand Prix racing is gone is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Perhaps, the man who has suffered most is Verstappen, since he is the best driver since Schumacher, and there is nothing and nowhere suitably commensurate to his talent in which to compete.
Senna was fast ... pretty fast !
on the limit at every corner
Crazy to think that wasn’t faster than Piquet
00:35 literally using all the width of the white line, every millimetre
Ele faz parecer ser fácil!
So about 1/2 second behind Piquet and Mansell's time. How good was the Lotus that year compared to the Williams?
😐😐😐☝👏👏👏👏👍
Aytorn sentava a bota mesmo
is this vehicle faster than his mclaren honda?
That's really a great question clark. I am going to assume you are talking about the '86 Lotus-Renault vs the '88 McLaren-Honda that won 15/16 races.
Apologies if I am telling you something you already know, but the rules of F1 - specifically technical regulations related to the cars themselves - change a lot from year to year. From 1986 to 1988, the main changes were a reduction in allowed fuel (220 litres to 195 to 150), and a reduction in engine boost pressure from unlimited in 1986 to 4 bar in 1987 and to 2.5 bar for 1988.
The net effect of this for turbocharged engines was the loss of 250-300hp in race trim and a significantly larger drop in qualifying (because of the loss of qualifying engines/boost. Renault, for example, used to block off their wastegates entirely for qualifying, allowing the engines to run as much boost as they could generate in 1985/6.)
In addition to this, during 1986 F1 had two main tyre suppliers, so both Pirelli and Goodyear were supplying the softest tyres they believed could be used effectively. In 1988, F1 had standardized on Goodyear as the sole supplier, meaning the company was able to provide spec tyres as they no longer had a competitor to beat. There were also changes to allowed sizes of wings on the cars in an effort to further reduce cornering speeds and other items.
The loss of 'that much' horsepower makes fairly comparing the cars' performance (1986 Lotus-Renault 97T to McLaren Honda MP4/4 from 1988) next to impossible.
FWIW I dug out some reference books for the years in question and the fastest race laps for Senna (in 1986) or Senna/Prost (in 1988) at the same circuits with substantially the same weather were on average about 2-2.5 second quicker for the 1986 car. There were some aberrations, however. At Spa the pole time was significantly quicker in '88 than in '86 and the race fast lap was less than 1 second slower in '88 than it had been in '86. At Imola, Prost's sister McLaren 1988 set the fastest race lap at more than a second quicker than Senna's '86 fast lap in the Lotus.
If the 1988 car had been allowed to use the same boost level and tyres as the 1986 Lotus, there is little doubt it would have been much faster. But absent controlled conditions (including not only regulations but weather) it is very difficult to make accurate comparisons. Despite the huge loss of power in qualifying, on average the lap times were not massively different across the field from 1987 to '88. At pure power circuits (like Monza) the difference was more than 2.5 secs. As stated above, at Spa and a few other circuits the fastest race laps were comparable.
The 1987 Williams-Hondas (running in much closer power and fuel configuration to the 1986 cars than the 1988 cars were allowed) were very much faster than the 1986 Lotus-Renault Senna is in here.
Hope this helps!
1:04 nearly a massive crash
no
Cambio manuale, senza elettronica....piloti con le palle esagonali
It would have been good to hear the engine instead of the continuous rattle of worthless information.
Ha ha ha, this is absolute shite. I was there at Brands Hatch in 1986. I'd rather watch real footage than this crap. But at least I got a good laugh out of it! 😂😂😂
What