Forza Motorsport Review
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- The all-new Forza Motorsport is here, on PC and Xbox Series X|S, and here's our full review of the released version!
A 'ground-up' reboot, and not called Forza Motorsport 8, Turn 10 Studios is restarting the franchise with some new cars, some new tracks, a different tyre model, revised suspension and updated visuals - but is it enough compared to contemporary rivals? We tested the single-player Builders Cup, but also the online multiplayer.
It's worth noting that Forza Motorsport will be released 10th October 2023, and to Game Pass from day one. Early Access for the super-duper premium versions begins 5th October 2023.
Do you have any questions, let us know in the comments below!
A review code was sent to Traxion for review purposes only. Footage captured on PC.
00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Barnstorming Opening Stages
02:15 - Build a Car
05:16 - Reheated Content
06:39 - Improved physics, but not genre-leading
08:15 - The multiplayer saves it
09:56 - Our verdict
10:20 - Outro
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Is it out already? and how are you playing it?
What about FFB settings? I hear that default ffb settings is very bad and changing it give big boost to experience on wheel.
endurance races like 3 hours will be present?
This looks terrible, they shot for shot copied Gran Turismo
"That initial sheen, however, takes about 2 hours to wear off" Can you guess what the Steam refund gameplay window is? :D
The understeer on entry IMO is probably caused by the cars having exaggerated rotational inertia. I haven’t played but it was something I hated in FM6 and FM7. You need to hurl you car as hard as possible to rotate on entry then try not to over rotate on exit.
i beat forza 7 had no issues, not sure what reviewers talking about but I experienced none of these issues and im a project cars 2 fanatic
Did Xbox update the steering wheel system yet? Can we finally button map our Fanatec steering wheels and will the lights finally work?
Plz tell me traxio if it has endurance racing in career mode
Is it possible to fill the driver field with AI drivers in private lobbies?
Unfortunately I feel that that Forza will never get to a point where hardcore sim racing enthusiasts want it to be (I include myself). The Forza series brought me to sim racing but I have been spoilt by decent FFB, proper triple support, FOV adjustment, VR, the list goes on.
I really wanted this to lean into that but this review highlights how the marketing has just been hyperbole to generate excitement about the game and the targeting of their prime demograohic of more casual players.
Saying that. I'll be be playing it none the less to form my own opinion.
Problem is it's always been a simcade same as gran Turismo. I took would like them to shoot for a full sim in motorsport as they already have horizon for a arcade racer.
@rocketmagnet427 I completely agree. My issue here is they've been marketing it as a sim with 'the most advanced tyre model ever' (and the rest of it) and the whole thing just feels like a lead balloon.
are there offline custom championships? Also, are there mid-race saves?
No mid race save but there is tech they are working on if you are disconnected during a race due to batteries dying or Internet issues it will put your car into auto mode.
Don’t know about mid race but I was able to turn my Xbox off after practice/before the race and when I turned it back on I was still in the same spot
You didn't mention about PC optimization. I don't expect a full sim experience from a Forza game, but if I am not going to pay a $100 for a stuttering console port. Did you try on Pc?
I guess we’re just gonna have to wait for digital foundry and the likes
It's backwards with Xbox. They develop it for pc and port it to Xbox. The only issues you would have is with your personal rig not meeting the minimum requirements
Jimmy Broadbent has a (brief) first impressions vid. Didn't go into spec details, but it seemed smooth, though the game did crash relatively quickly.
@@TheDealer1228 You mean Jimmy Broadbent AKA Mr Blaspheme.
PC performance is also not bad. Constant shader loading and hiccups.
There is absolutely nothing new about the career mode. These "cups" with a series of short races also existed 1:1 in the predecessors. The same goes for mastering the corners. What is Microsoft trying to tell me about a " all-new " career mode? The only new thing is this CarPG system. And in my opinion, that is implemented far too restrictively.
What does the FFB feel like compared to one of the Codies’ F1XX titles? Is it comparable?
Depending on which games you are referring to, pretty subpar.
If you have played AC, ACC or even iRacing significantly worse than those titles. If you haven’t played those titles, it feels just fine.
How are the replays? Do the cameras feel natural and hand held or are they digitaly pixelperfect stuck to the center of the cars?
When dealing with physics of a car its better when fixed. The camera in this game dont look right for a sim
@scottd7222 Ok thanks, but I meant the replay cameras
SuperGT said the replays didn't change much from the past few games (same angles and such).
@@TheDealer1228 It is unbelievable. There are racing games 20 years old that did replays way better
Love the criticism of the progress system. Glad someone finally said it.
I thought you can take the car in other modes/multiplayer to level them up?
It says about this in the video towards the end. I thought it was obvious having not previously heard this feature that that would be the intention, I was wondering why this reviewer didn’t realise or think about it. Then he covered it at the end. I didn’t like this review much at all but got what I needed. I’ll check other reviews tho too
“Set up to keep u subscribed to game pass” is exactly Xbox’s problem and I feel is holding them back, damn shame.
is forza motorsport good for Absolut beginners in sim racing
Great review! One tiny criticism is that you say the verdict is "Wishlist", but there is no context so I don't know what that compares to. I assume "Buy now", and "Don't buy", but is there more of a spectrum?
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So, going off on your comment about steering wheel compatibility, I'm guessing it's time to cancel my Game Pass subscription. After playing FM for multiple years with a gamepad, I was finally looking forward to the "revamp", but it seems it's still too controller-minded.
The collision sounds like me doing the dishes 😂
sounds like sword fights
Just wanted to point out there are proximity arrows available to show when cars are close as you said there was radar in the game, it's turned off by default but the option is there
Definitely need a proper radar though, arrows simply don't provide enough information.
@@TEFilms they provide proximity and direction, personally that's enough for me. Especially given that you have mirrors and adjustable pov
How is it as compared to project cars 2 in terms of physics?
More consistent but way more arcadey. You can drive everything without assists on. It always feels assisted.
@@kraenk12 gotcha
Fanatec DD Pro feels horrible, please can you make a wheel Setup Guide. I did try Yesterday for 3 hours and IT still don't feel sticky.
Forza always had terrible wheel support. Nothing has changed.
Triple screen support on pc?
Nope!
I got this for while my wheel and pedals were in storage, it’s not too bad but it’s difficult to get some clean racing online and the AI didn’t watch the driving etiquette series.
Me - I'm most interested in driving fast cars FAST against multiple genre's --> looks like this might be too artificially restrictive to allow that. I'll give it a miss for now ....
And still… The wheel support is atrocious out of the box without massive tinkering
“Game behaves best with a controller” 😂 Nah bruh. Fix those wheel settings before making statements like that. I’m more of a sim guy myself but the game is fine with the wheel after getting settings right. It’s been a pleasant surprise since I was thinking it would be more of the same.
it still says I have to wait on Xbox and I have the gold edition
It should unlock for you at midnight, enjoy!
Ultimate Edition on October 5 and regular version/gamepass on October 10
Change your location of the Xbox to New Zealand, that could help
When I played it, it felt like what project cars 3 was trying to be.
This game how ever, yeah it’s a weird one for me. It’s not built from the ground up, but I like how the cars feel, feel like they have weight to them.
Hard to place!
So what i have ZERO interest in online ? Is the game then waste of time and money ?
The game have finally pitcrew durung pit stops ?
Yes, but they does not anything, just stay
Brilliant, only 35 sim features left to include :D
5120x1440 possible ?
Yes it is!
@@TraxionGG Cool - thank you )
Ahh yess "Build from the ground up" they say that in like EVERY of these games trailer
at least they do have a good multiplayer system tho! that safety rating should be applied in every online racing games out there
Looking forward to this and I'm going to try it on gamepass,I play ACC which is great,but looking forward to this cuz the multiplayer looks very interesting and could potentially be great.
Wow you’ll be severely disappointed.
@@kraenk12 explain please?
Need to know:
Triple monitor support
Wheel support from simucube and others
No triple screen or vr support.
I like your videos but you’re being very generous about the multiplayer mode. It’s hardly better than 7! Are you sure about this?!!
This games was not rebuild from the ground up the progression system will make people not buy this games for sure
I got my Xbox x for forza. I had like over a 1000 hrs on 7
Disagree shoot peripherals. Works best with a wheel.
No race cars in career mode in a game with Motorsport in it’s title is unforgivable! I am not interested in racing road cars on race tracks-been there done that. I was hoping this game would have focused on motorsports and the long history and different forms and classes of racing cars. I will be skipping this game and will not be buying an Xbox Series X either. Hopefully LeMans Ultimate will release on PS5 sooner than later.
While I'm enjoying the game, I wouldn't recommend getting a SX just for it but there's nothing stopping you from doing 'the history of MS' in the free play mode.
I been having a great time with it. I seen some reviewers going hard at this game. Idky. Decent sim racing game with great graphics. I play on PC and have had 0 issues
The assertion that a Forza game is best played with assists on, medium difficulty Drivatars, and with the use of rewind is ridiculous. Forza has always been intuitive to play without assists, hard to believe that just suddenly changed considering other reviewers have praised the physics improvements.
Walking hyperbole machine... Thank you for saying it. The guy has bugged me for a long time with how he speaks.
I had so much hope...but alas, I won't be playing this. The reviews are so bad. Sticking to ACC and Assetto Corsa and Automobilista 2. Thanks for the review. You saved me a lot of time.
I really don't like the graphics. Look so washed out.
If realism is what you were looking for, then the graphics should be right down your line. Because, it looks more realistic than ACC, which is my number one choice of racer.
@@richpoor146 I don't agree with you. This game is trash. Massive hype and then they release trash. It is more than just the graphics.
I have been spoiled by true sim racing games on the pc. Just can’t get into this. It’s a sad day, I just played my last Forza game.
You opinion...just closed the deal with me. We have such awesome sims on the pc. With some additional modding they look even more gorgeous. So yes...this game will get a pass from me as well. Or maybe I will create a video about how shit it is and see if I can get some traffic to my new channel. Hehehehe.
Terrific game, super fun. I'm 20 hours into it, and I love it. I play the Builder's Cup solo career and the Rivals mode. I dont play online tournaments, but the game needs a permanent internet connection all the same, unfortunately. I recommend a wired connection rather than wireless, as any data interuption might cause the game to get stuck when loading a race.
I've felt connected with every car I've driven so far. It's like I'm one with the car, feels amazing. The control is very good with a regular controller. Cars are responsive and physics feel great around corners. I don't have a wheel, but I might end up getting one just for this game for an even higher sense of involvement.
Improving your car level and pilot level feels rewarding. The more you drive, the better your drive around the tracks, the more points you get and the faster you evolve as you get access to more performance parts and upgrades, which unlock progressively. You need to work your way to the top, and you become a much better driver in the process. I'm at difficulty 5/8 and choose to start the races from the last place on the grid for a bit of challenge. I win all the races with relative ease, so I might need to raise the difficulty to 6/8.
Graphically, I don't like the lack of colours under certain lighting and weather conditions, it all looks washed out, and kind of misty a bit too often. On a clear day, tracks can look great, though. The overall muted colour palette around tracks doesn't apply to cars, which show more vivid colours. Why have Turn10 chosen to go desaturated beyond realistic, I wonder? Maybe a stylistic choice.
I don't care for ray tracing. I find it pointless. Would rather dedicate resources to other aspects of the game, like AI. In real life, there are far less reflections than what RT is trying too hard to emulate. No such thing as a mirror effect everywhere in the real world, except perhaps on a rainy day and a wet road. I do appreciate 60fps, makes a huge difference compared to 30fps, which to me is bordering unplayable and doesn't belong in this console generation. I dont see the point of offering this option in a 12 Tflops system, to be honest.
I noticed something I didnt like in the replays. When braking before the bends, it shows the wheels strangely locking up in the replay despite driving with ABS on, and the brakes dont turn red as they heat up. Looks bad, especially when the wheels stop turning.
The choice of cars is great as it is, but a bit more tracks would be nice. Turn10 say they're working on those, we shall see.
Overall, for what I personally value in a racing game, this is a blast. It strikes the perfect balance between arcade and simulation, and you can easily tweak it one way or another with the aids. I give it a solid 9/10, despite the very muted colour palette, small glitches and required permanent connection to play solo, which in the end don't weigh that much in the scales to me.
Was hoping this would the PC/Xbox equivalent of Gran Turismo. Sadly doesn't sound like it.
Why has nobody done this?!
As a GT seven fan I have to say they have edged GT seven in this genre with this game?
Know how long it takes to rebuild just one car? Thats old model.. yes out of place but they game wouldnt of been out till the next gen.. then start all over again... there isnt the time these days!!
when i want to race, i dont play games.....
For the love of god please don’t abbreviate car points
Overtake GG saying exactly the opposite of Traxion GG is disconcerting ahahaha. I mean this game should not be taken seriously as a sim race game but more compared to GT. It does not make sense to compare stairs with bridges.
And this right here is all i wanted to know! Can Forza trade punches with Gran Turismo? Is this game finally at the same level as GT?
I don't want a TRUE sim racing experience out of Forza nor i want it from GT either. I got ACC on console for that.
me too . I mean neither it was advertised as a pure simulation nor it was never ever done any FM as a simulation. So, that's why I do not understand the comparison. But I don't care. I'll just wait 5 days and play it on console when I want to have fun with friends who do not know how to drive on ACC. @@NRT_InsertCoin
GT7 is far more realistic and better looking.
@@NRT_InsertCoinIt’s not, not by a long shot.
@@kraenk12 Yeah i know unfortunately 😢. I played it today for the first time for a couple of hours and i couldn't believe what my eyes were seeing...the game is just a complete visual mess on Xbox Series S 😢...even with "Visual" mode turned on. It really felt like i was looking to Project Cars 3 when it was released...i felt so disappointed and sad 😮💨.
I honestly believe that the game was made with the Series X and PC in mind ONLY...no love what so ever for the series S.
Gameplay/physics wise... it's actually enjoyable with a direct drive steering wheel (after you spend sometime fiddling with the ffb settings)
Will be passing on this, going to wait for Rennsport and AC2.
Yes! But Rennsport is now in a lawsuit for stealing code from Rfactor 2.
Rennsport allegedly uses rFactor 2 code
Several lines of code are provided, and the similarities are undeniable. What is this? Specifically, the duplicate code was allegedly found in the physics data, implying that Rennsport is using unlicensed rFactor 2 code.
Similarly to how pizza is pronounced peet-za, with a T sound, Forza is pronounced Fort-za.
Can it not just be an either/or situation? Different regional pronunciations are commonplace; I don't go around telling Americans the 'correct' way to say aluminium, yoghurt or tomato, lol.
Just let people say words how they like.
I wish gt7 would have cars like the V8 supercars or tracks like road America or mid Ohio but Forza is just not a sim and all the Xbox fan boys and even Forza themselves say it's the best sim out there. I think you guys got it spot on by saying not to take it too seriously well done!!!
Forza is not a sim and neither is GT
@@TheGreasyGamerPerhaps GT7 is “simcade”, but it is more sim and feels good with a steering wheel more than many titles. Especially if you have a wheel with true force like a Logitech Gpro, or Thrustmaster T-GT, I’d call it a sim with these peripherals.
Burn the car leveling trash!
Sounds rather disappointing tbh. However, i will give it a spin on Gamepass. That is, if i will be able to use my TGT. I know this isnt on the supported wheel list but the TS PC is and they are pretty much the same thing. Can anyone confirm that the TGT is working with Forza on PC?
I like the game, but the career mode is very boring. They had enough time to give us something better. The car point system is probably the best part imo
A very basic review guys.
Iv seen more indepth reviews elsewhere.
To be honest I need to see proper day 1 release to see how stable the multiplayer servers will be.
I see the sony community has come put today.
"I see the sony community has come put today." what is this even supposed to mean? That any perceived criticism is coming from fanboys or something?
Too few tracks, too much grind.
Those who buy this game will sadly in the main be completely fed up of the tracks come December - and no amount of tracks will alter the feeling. T10 should have delayed it.
The grind and build-build-build has ruined the game out of the blocks for me. Telling me not to buy lots of cars when that's how I role is short-signed and stupidly childish. This mentality will come back to bite you Chris Esaki. Stupid beyond words, you've fundamentally flawed the way ppl have to "have fun" in games.
This looks great but they have to change the upgrade locks… that will kill it for me
I loved FM7. I've no experience of actual racing so accepted that any failings with the car were down to me. I loved the menu music and the Driver's Cup series, it was all so new to me and gave me an outlet during lockdown. Unfortunately I can't play it now because I didn't get it for PC and with the Xbox version, the wheel vibrates constantly - imagine drilling a wall with a hammer drill. It happened with the TS-XW and now with the CSL DD. If Forza Motorsport is anything similar to FM7 then I'll be getting it. I wouldn't expect, nor be looking for, the kind of fidelity found in the popular sims.
The music is the worst in this new game. Feels AI generated, no soul at all.
Microsoft is not stupid. They know that most people will play that title under Game Pass. To keep people paying for Game Pass, they have locked the progression behind a slow levelling system. If you could buy any upgrades with money, some smarty pants would find a way to defeat the system and tell everyone on social media how to circumvent the system. Microsoft just wants you to build a long term relationship with them. A long term relationship that is monetized for the benefit of Microsoft that is. 😉
Was hoping for FM to go more down the sim route, but it looks like it's still fully simcade. In addition to no VR support for PC means I'll be giving this one a miss
I am 100% with you on this.
Forza Motorsport was always more Cade than sim.
@@kraenk12 true
As a big GT7 fan I have to say the driving physics feel more immersive,in motorsport.
Lmao what a load.
@@kraenk12 have you raced both?
This review doesn't make sense at times. Whining about upgradinga nd parts not being available, then saying you 'quick upgrade' by the push of a button? Comparing to ACC for the driving and simulation, then comparing it to GRID legends and Crew Motorfest for damage and visuals, acting as of those last two weren't extremely mediocre games? Sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining from someone who really doesn't grasp what the essence of Forza really is: a pick up and play enjoyable simcade for console users with a controller. It never pretended to be anything else.
Is it just me or does the game's graphics look very washed out
Yes it does.
Yes!
Been playing this morning. I disagree. Wheel feels fantastic. I play a ton of assetto corsa and this still feels great. Agree with some of the car models though. They need reworking
Yep, I have heard from experienced sim racers who think it feels pretty awesome with tuning. This guy honestly seems like he just rushed a review out without bothering to get to grips with the physics and controls.
Ridiculous. The wheel support is absolutely atrocious compared to all other titles.
No questions, everything is clear about this arcade, as it was right from the beginning
Its simulation
No its a simcade more in style with gt7 but its not full simulation
@andreasmoller9798 it is a full sim overtake said that
@@RDR12344 he said it’s more sim than previous Forza entries. Not that the game itself is a full sim
@@RDR12344 no its not its a simcade like gt7, its nowhere at level of iracing, acc, ams2 etc
This looks terrible, they shot for shot copied Gran Turismo
Just worse in all regards.
Anyway i ll wait to see the nordsxhleife in order to purchase or not . If they manage full 3D vegetation on that track along with volumetric effects like fog , clouds etc this is gonna be glorious
This game proves that current gen consoles are way too underpowered . RT looks beautiful but 30fps is unacceptable . We need mid gen upgrades of these consoles with at leaat double teraflops to get proper 4K/60 with RT on
No one cares for RT in racing.
So much better than GT7
Quite enjoying it personally.
Honestly, I do hope they fix the progression but I’m having so much fun that I almost don’t care. I want my 2020 R8 ❤
This review sounds soo rushed
Game seems not worth more of their time, I agree
so as the game it seems
Well 7min wasted, why u ask? Well at 7+min u said the game is best played in gamepad and not on a wheel.
Ill pass this arcade, ty for heads up
Overtakes said its a SIM
@@RDR12344 sim for a gamepad 😆
@@vedadtursum6341 did you watch the overtake review
@@RDR12344Dude, you've posted this reply to like 10 different people. Just cause one other reviewer claimed it was a sim, this doesn't make it objective fact.
This video is not a review
The idea it’s the “most technically advanced” is just insane. It’s a pathetic launch. So many bugs. So many issues. Graphics terrible with anything but the highest end cards. It beggars belief they could launch this in this state.
Go back and play Forza 4, and upgrade your car as much as you want, whenever and however you want. Then play this and immediately throw it in the garbage bin. No thanks
Grinding crap
Like GT7. Dont play anymore…
I love how used people are to getting free hypercars, that they complain about grinding in a game
At least in gt7 you dont need to grind for every car to have it upgraded, this is not a good system, i dont mind working for cars and stuff but this is not it
@@aroo7460 In game with 500 plus cars, there really needs to be a balance between the two philosophies. Cars shouldn't be given out like candy, but it shouldn't take a player hours to unlock one car either.
even less realistic than GT7, more frustrating structure, best graphics overall….. not enough
???
Overtake said it's a Sim
GT7 has very convincing physics. Much more than this.
What a negative review, seen better ones
You're absolutely right every other video is calling it a Sim