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Batman Returns is a 1992 American superhero film directed by Tim Burton and produced by Denise Di Novi and Burton, based on the DC Comics character Batman. The sequel to the 1989 film Batman, it is the second installment of Warner Bros. initial Batman film series, and stars Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne / Batman, alongside Danny DeVito, Michelle Pfeiffer, Christopher Walken, Michael Gough, Pat Hingle and Michael Murphy.
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Ok it's fine if it's a Christmas plus this year is mad
Review Batman VS. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Batman and Harley Quinn.
Am I late Critic ? ☺️
You gotta do The live Grinch Musical.... its soooooo bad
Polar Express
"let's watch that Tim burton Christmas movie"
"a nightmare before Christmas?"
"no the other one"
Ah yes, Sweeney Todd.
Look up the date it came out, the joke works more than you might think.
Edward Scissorhands ?
"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? That has candy in it."
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's set at Jesus's birthday!!!!!!!
This....actually makes it even more fucked up
He tries to kill the children in Christmas Eve....
Its like Santa sending his helpers to kidnap children for deaths.......
Wow
@@wstine79 willy wonka was based on Santa Claus
Rewards charlie for good and the ompa loompas despite what sjws say in hindsight were not racist but actually based on Santa's elves
This might sound strange, but hear me out. In The Penguin funeral scene, I think we are meant to empathize with the penguins (plural, lowercase), not THE Penguin. All his life, The Penguin wanted to be accepted and loved despite his deformities. Time and time again, he fails to fit in with human society, either for his superficial ugliness, or his ugliness inside. The penguins however love him unconditionally, and don't begrudge his animalistic, savage nature, as animals themselves. The Penguin however, becomes lost forever chasing the affection he can never have, rather than embracing his true nature, his kin and his home. The penguins know the beasts need to stay with the other beasts, and lament the tragic soul who failed to learn life's greatest lesson.
This comment is underrated!
That's deep. I don't even meant that sarcastically or as a meme, that's legitimately a deep and thoughtful analysis that I'm 100% in support of.
yeah i thought that was always pretty obvious
Never thought of it that way. Makes total sense! In more than just an owner loving their pet -- he WAS an animal like them!
Plus, it totally fits with the movie's overarching theme, which is duality. All three main characters are caught between two identities and having a hard time coping with that fact. While Batman/Bruce's duality ultimately makes him a force for good, Penguin/Oswald's failure to reconcile his conflicting identities turns him evil.
Catwoman/Selina, who has to deal with the same type of inner conflict, which is highlighted through her relationship with Batman/Bruce, is also torn between good (Batman) and evil (Penguin). She's torn between both possible outcomes of being caught between two identities. In her case, we could say it's a duality within a duality.
The first born thing wasn’t truly random. Penguin was the first born but was rejected by his parents. So he wanted to get back at the other first borns by killing them
Yeah, it wasn’t that confusing even in the final version, but the brothers angle would have given it so much more context.
He wanted to get back at the other first borns? What does that even mean?
@@ahabduennschitz7670 He wanted to kill the first born children of all the rich people since he never had the life the children will have
@@ahabduennschitz7670 just some personal stuff. He’s a first born done wrong and now he wants to make sure other first borns suffer the same fate etc
@@ahabduennschitz7670 It's an anti-Moses angle with Penguin. Moses was cast into the river so his life would be _spared,_ Penguin was cast into the river with hopes he'd be _killed._ The Exodus story also lists the final plague as "Death Of The First Born" but in that story Moses merely announced it and gave him a lot of remorse over it whereas Penguin is _happily_ enacting the plague himself and eventually ups it to _all_ children of Gotham.
What I love the most about this film is how Tim Burton really went out 100% with his love of German expressionism in the visuals and references, like the art-deco statues, angular black shadows, and naming a villain after Nosferatu. some of the shots could be taken straight from The Cabinet of Dr Caligari!
Yeah, that was some amazing world-building right there. It totally makes sense to use German expressionism as a reference point for a Detective Comics movie, too, for Batman's Gotham City belongs to the same country as Superman's city which is named after the German expressionist movie Metropolis.
*Batman opens the armory to discover that the Batsuit is pink*
"Alfred, that's cold..."
"It's revenge, sir... it's supposed to be cold."
Take all the thumbs-up.
*Mr. Freeze would like to know your location*
😱😱😱😱
It's supposed to be cold...
It's supposed to be cold...
It's supposed to be cold..
That is just too good!
Danny Devito didn’t deserve the Razzie nomination he got for this movie.
It was perfect casting
Yes it was.
Razzie nomination? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
@@colinmackinnon696 I’m dead serious
He was nominated for a Razzie? Thats as stupid as the Shining being nominated one!
“Who decorates an antenna?”
Massively underrated line.
"I'll murder you momentarily...but first...I need a cool drink of iced water!" Still remains as one of my favourite movie villain's last words.
I like the joke's better.
"Shit!"
The first half of this scene was deleted. Penguin looks at Bruce Wayne's face and says, "Without that mask, you are drop-dead handsome!" Then he grabs and umbrella and tries to shoot him with it. "So DROP DEAD!" That's when the cute umbrella pops open, revealing that Penguin grabbed the wrong one.
It's fascinating that this movie has a bad rep in America, but is considered one of the best comic book movies ever in Europe.
Honestly, I always have a hard time understanding why American media caught on and continues to catch on in Europe.
And LatAm! My fav batman movie hands down
I did not know that.
Europeans have good standards, I'm American and even I agree.
Setting aside v for vendetta and. Watchmen, which are meant to be dark first
Can you really honestly think of any other comic book movie that is this gothic and dark and honestly as dark and tragic as Frankenstein drawing from Moses and a psychotic nervous breakdown, child killing
All in a SUPER HERO MOVIE...........
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fun Fact: Batman and Catwoman aren't wearing masks at the masquerade because they are already disguised as Bruce and Selina.
Only us Batfans got that
I’m surprised the critic didn’t point that out.
@@chadfalardeau5396 Both characters talk about being tired of wearing masks during that scene.
@@jessedellross3245 i'm just surprised when Penguin mentions he's gonna rid all first borns, Doug do the obvious Blazzing Saddles joke, "Too Jewish."
I'll take it even further than that:
All four main characters (Bruce, Selina, Schreck, and Penguin) appear in that scene, yet out of the four of them, Schreck, the so- called "Respected monster," is the only one wearing a mask.
Heavy symbolism there, as Schreck is the only one of them hiding his true nature (His greed and cruelty, hidden behind a "Mask" of superficial philanthropy).
3:20 fun fact, Tim Burton was actually reluctant to cast Walken because the actor scared him.
How is walker scary? Plankton from Spongebob is scarier than Waken.
@@orangeslash1667 It's not who I think is scary. It's who Burton thinks is scary. I'm just the messenger.
I love the fact the guy who directed Sweeney Todd, Batman Returns, And Sleepy Hollow, is scared of Walken.
Edit: Walken is in Sleepy Hollow, shouldn’t it be titled The Walken Dead? 😄
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Ok that was pretty funny.
I’d like to think in this universe, Killer Croc is a gentlemanly crime boss gangster who owns a nightclub, seeing as Penguin is a circus freak cannibal pervert monster who lives in the sewers.
Ya know, I'd be down to see that if they had actually made the Batman '89 comic they had planned.
He would definitely have a Louisiana accent.
@@jacksonhopp2003 a southern gentleman….yeah I’m down for that
"...how many falls has she survived??"
You realize Catwoman has nine lives, right? It's like... a thing in the movie.
I always thought it was kept fairly ambiguous. Did she really supernaturally have nine lives, or was it all just in her head and she just got extremely lucky?
@@LordMalice6d9 that's a good question... sort of a twisted placebo effect. Either way she survives eight potentially fatal injuries and even counts down as she is repeatedly shot. I think it's in her head
@@LordMalice6d9 Near the end of the film Selina does mention she had nine lives but she was down to six (due to penguin dropping her into the greenhouse, batman knocking her off the building, and I guess when she first fell because max pushed her off the building it counts as a life lost) before Max shoots her four times leaving her with two left, and then she grabbed the power cable and used another life to fry Max. By the end she only has one life left.
@@omegamysterio3701 the first one wouldn't count as she lost her one life before gaining the nine from the cata who revived her
@@tanandalynch9441 Yes but she clearly says to Max "You killed me, the penguin killed me, Batman killed me! That's three lives down you think you got enough in there to finish me off?" I personally wasn't sure if it counts but her word is what we got so likely it does count, I imagine the resurrection she got cost a life I guess because max doesn't kill her again until he starts blowing holes in her with the gun.
Anyone else notice they gave Killer Croc's back story to Penguin? Seriously, abandoned by his parents, grew up in the sewers, joined a circus, and he bites people. So this is just Danny Devito playing Killer Croc.
But with penguins
@@Jeffrey18O yeah, because Burton had to make it weirder
Killer Croc would have fit right in as a villain in the movie.
....then what's Penguin's original backstory?
@@jinhunterslay1638 Penguin has a physical deformity that makes him look more bird-like, but that didn't really affect him all that much. He's mostly just a high-class gangster, with trick umbrellas to make him more cartoony.
"Remember those days when that would ruin a politicians career" haha so sad and so true, Doug.
#tooreal
I was conflicted between whether this referenced Nixon's Watergate, Clinton's affair or Trump's....yes, but I figure it's a full house.
Gonna be honest first time I saw this movie when it got the Penguin death and the penguins started coming out and walking toward him I literally said, "Oh God they are going to eat his corpse!" Which honestly I think could have easily been in this movie
OMG LMAO!!!!!!
I’m glad you decided to be honest about this.
Not gonna lie, I was expecting you to lie, but now I realize you were being straight with us, which is cool and surprising.
@@darkstar4494 what
It may be batshit crazy, but every character in this movie is so well-acted.
Hah Bat
This movie kicks ass. Nolan was good, but he never made anything fun on his Batman movies.
You just repeat what they say in the video :l
"Master Bruce, open the door"
"Can't Alfred, taking a batshit"
BATshit crazy ahaha...ha , I’ll see my self out
In Scheck's office, there is a picture of Christopher Walken and Arnold Schwarzenegger. So they set up Mr. Freeze in this universe.
Also: Sammy Davis jr, and Elvis Presley
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Not that far off actually. Akiva Goldman's OG script for Batman Forever was actually very dark and psychological (If anything, very ahead of its time). A lot of these ideas were in fact filmed, there was a 170 minute Assembly Cut with a lot of these ideas. They considered releasing this back in 2005, but chose not to. The Dennis O'Neil Comic Adaptation keeps a lot of those scenes. But in editing, the focus groups cut out almost all of that.
#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Yeah, got to hate that noise.
thanks for telling about the hidden Easter egg
@Edward Lee Miller WB screwing things up even back then. Why am i not surprised
You really DON'T have to choose between whether the character is likeable or not based on their sympathetic moments. The only thing that matters is that the character believes themselves to be in the right, and thus justifying their actions. Saying you CAN'T have a character like Penguin have moments where they feel pain and reflect on their dark past, is asking for REALLY 2-dimensional villains. Penguin's motivations come from a seething hatred and sadness that comes from his abandonment issues. It's not meant to be silly or villainous, it's meant to be sad... Just because his way of processing is that he becomes a hate filled murderer doesn't mean he doesn't deserve times to reflect on his backstory as a way of showing the audience how he's been affected.
And the saga of Danny Devito wearing top hats in Tim Burton movies continues
"how many falls has she survived?"
technically none since those falls take off one of her nine lives I believe
Yep, she technically died 8 times, not counting her first fall before transforming. If Shreck had shot her one more time, Catwoman would have remained dead forever.
Soooo.... how DID she get the "nine lives" power in this movie anyway??? The same way as Halle Berry Catwoman??
@@Eccegato More or less, except chewed on by cats instead of burped on
This movie is a fairy tale, and it's best left ambiguous whether her nine lives is actually supernatural or a poetic way of describing her uncommon luck.
That’s kinda left open to interpretation
Fun fact: Batman cannot turn his neck in this costume so he has to physically spin around if something is just out of his line of sight. Hilarious to watch for. Merry Christmas!!!
They even referenced that in the Dark Knight
I always wondered back then why they never went with a Adam West or helmet type mask.. Cowl thing w/e
Apparently the batsuit for Tim Burtons's Batman 3 would have had a movable neck, but we all know what happened there. Look up "Batman Continues", there are some interesting preproduction leaks.
@@willarrington3188 It was meant to make batman move on an unnatural way
The recipe for crime fighting success? Limited field of view!
I still love how Andrew impersonates the Walken accent and manner of speaking so it’s even more believable that his character is that guys son.. it’s just perfect really. Honestly probably the best part of the movie.
The one thing I cant forget about this movie?
The fact that they used an orchestrated version of "Super Freak" during the Selina/Bruce dance scene.
Nice catch!
U can’t touch this! Now stop! Hammer time!
Christopher walken’s hair looks like a grenade went off in his face, wiped the soot off his face, put hair spray on and called it good 😂
Christopher walkens characters last name is shrek so I want to see this him re edited so it’s actually shrek and not just walken
@@wyattholbert7987 It's actually spelled "Schreck", but you do you
@@monhunterz5430 ah yes, the proper German way
It also looks like he decided to keep using that hair style.
@@wyattholbert7987 And then another version of Shrek where Walkin is edited in travelling with Fiona and Donkey xD "But this is..MY Swamp!'
the cops show up at Wayne Manor
Commissioner Gordon: "So, uh, we noticed that you have several very large bat signals that shine directly into your house whenever we activate the signal at HQ..."
Bruce: "I just like to stay informed when the Batman is called to action."
Gordon: "Seems legit..Have a good evening, Bruce."
Bruce: "...I..I can't believe that worked.."
Gordon, writing in his notes in the squad car: *Totally a sex thing*
This comment and the first reply to it are perfect.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bruce's batcave is his fanboy collection of Batman stuff.
Holy shit, I can now see how goddamn downright poetic it was to cast Paul Reubens as Penguin’s father in Gotham.
I've always loved this film. I'm surprised it has mixed reviews.
Yah, Batman Returns is actually my favorite batman movie . . . . . Most people I talk to really like it
It's weird as fuck.... prolly my least favorite Batman movie after Batman & Robin.
I don't mind things being a little over-the-top, but there are limits, and Tim Burton says "fuck the limits".
Michelle Pfeifer will always be sexy though. Better Catwoman than Anne Hathaway.
half of the reviews are from butthurt parents who said the movie was too dark for kids i blame them for batman and robin i kind of like batman forever mostly because of Jim carrey
In Australia It is considered a really good Batman 🦇 movie 🎥🍿
Yeah, I’ve always considered it a really good one, maybe even better than the first Tim Burton Batman
I dunno, I thought Danny Devito pulled it off, as a kid I was both scared of penguin and ended up feeling bad for him.
When your parents throw you in a river and you end up being adopted by penguins, I'm guessing there WOULD be psychological issues. In that context, it works.
Doug said he DID pull it off
He's saying the problem is the writing
Same That penguin 🐧 ending was actually quite sad 😢
@@wesleywyndam-pryce4081
Carried by the only things that loved him
The penguins
Same here.
Christopher Walken is humanity’s Christmas present.
Na it is Morgan Freeman
"Santa Clause, afraid not. I'm just Christopher Walken with funny hair. So sue me, because that's a thousand times better."
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's set at Jesus's birthday!!!!!!!
This....actually makes it even more fucked up
He tries to kill the children in Christmas Eve....
Its like Santa sending his helpers to kidnap children for deaths.......
Wow
@@maxchombo7757 can't it be both?
I would not mind getting defenestrated by mr. Walken
28:30 honestly one of my favorite episodes of that show. He came so close to being reformed..... People mocked him, but he stood strong.... But the betrayal of someone he thought he could trust sent him spiralling back into his egotistic insanity....
The Catwoman breakdown scene in her apartment scarred me as a kid (so did the kidnapping of the kids). Took me years to watch this movie again, though I appreciate what Tim Burton was going for now.
There was that previous scene in her apartment, where it shows how miserable her life is. That’s a pretty mature scene, that shouldn’t really be in a kids movie: a beautiful hard working woman, tired, returns to her empty apartment, with nobody expecting her, but a cat, a message from her annoying mom, an advertisement for a perfume that any man will love and, which reminds her that she “of course” doesn’t have one. No kid would get that, but I like that scene. Now most character development we get is: “This is Jake, he loves doughnuts”.
Considering what Selina has been through, I say this meltdown was justified.
Really, i found it slighty comical.
*"I would've paid good money to see Batman punch penguins."*
You too?
Screw that, I wanna see him punch porgs.
@@cheerfulsatanist More like punch that, I wanna see him screw porgs.
Slowly raises hand
That alone would of been enough for me to pay to see it..
Penguins vs Porgs: Dawn Of Burton
This movie kind of acts like a strange nexus point for Penguin. A lot of the comics pre-this movie paint him as a forgotten son of Gotham royalty on the same level as the Waynes. But after this movie, he started being portrayed as someone with delusions of grandeur, thinking himself to be on the same level as the Waynes. Regardless, I see why people were lobbying for DeVito to reprise the role for the Pattinson movie being filmed right now. He encapsulates both mindsets to this very day.
So he's basically Frank Reynolds and I am totally here for it!!!!
I’m a die hard Batman fan. But the penguin was the one villain I always thought to be the most overrated. I never cared about him in any show, comic, or anything. But Penguin in Batman Returns was always my favorite version of him. I loved how sick and disgusting he was. And unlike most people I actually kinda did feel bad for the guy. Always was in my opinion the most underrated Batman movie villain. But just my opinion!
I think the idea was that the cobblepots were a fallen family, and Penguin was obsessed with getting his family name back to the level of high of society
that’s why he has an envy attitude towards the waynes.
@@mckenzie.latham91 kind of like the Dumas family from Gotham.
@@LyleStyle87 Funny enough; speaking of Gotham, the actor that played Penguin's dad in that show, Paul Reubens, also played Penguin dad's in this film.
This is easily one of the best Batman movies. Then again I prefer the Tim Burton Batmans over Christopher Nolan, they're not only well acted, the atmosphere is just amazing.
Christopher Nolan wasn't bad but they didn't have the same comic book feel as the Burtonverse movies. Nolan's was more like if you took a serial killer out of jail and put him in a Batman costume.
@@not.supermario “serial killer out of jail and put him in a batman costume” nope you’re thinking of ben affleck lol
Yes!!!!
@@not.supermarioJohn Connor from Terminator Salvation as Batman.
That weird woman saying "He's like a frog that became a prince", the way she says it always reminds me of a musical; like how they say a phrase and then begin singing about it. I expected all the extras around her w/ newspapers to start singing a song about Penguin turning into a good guy or something.
I need this musical
The whole sequence of lines reminds me of that. With the winter/Christmas setting, the much cleaner look of Gotham (vs. the original) and the goody-goody quality of the people, it always seemed like Burton was giving the city something of a Frank Capra vibe, which makes the Penguin look even more grotesque.
@@matthintz9468 I think it was a way of illustrating how Gotham has improved because of Batman's presence, but underneath they all still have a dark side, because crime never really goes away completely.
For me the thing about the penguin funeral goes back to a lot of animals' reputations for loving humans regardless of how horrible we may be in general or even horrible to them. I see the tenderness not in him, but in the penguins' unconditional/parental love for him. They don't see his ruthlessness, just someone they hold dear OR don't see his ruthlessness as reason to stop loving him; it's worse considering the possibility some of the penguins who raised him may still be alive and mourning their child.
And also made worse for knowing that when he trained them to carry explosives through the streets, some of them could have been badly hurt.
@@Perid0tStar Oh shoot, obviously with the exploding Gotham plan, yeah, but never thought of the training part. They were all so willing though. I wonder if there were others who didn't go and what happened to them? How well did the penguins understand how explosives work to still be willing to go? Or was there mind control involved? So much potential codependency... so much they would do for do for him...
Oswald Cobblepot
Carried to his watery grave by the only beings that cared about him
Penguins
@@gachalifetoonstudios1377 Damn, was that a roast?
@@moniquesalazar1678 not really if it's true
Plus if I die and a bunch of puppies dragged me to my grave then it'll be cute/horrifying
Michelle Pfeiffer meltdown scene is nothing compared to Nostalgia Critic's meltdown after food fight, that had me in tears!
I just noticed that's what he was referencing in that review. He was imitating Michelle Pfeiffer lol. 😅 😅
@@CLDJ227 It was right around when Selina tossed the carton of milk at the answering machine that I realized "So this is where the Critic's freakout in Foodfight came from"
The reference was obvious to those of us who grew up on Batman Returns. He certainly put his back into it, though. Credit where it’s due.
Or his breakdown during the haunting
Or Pearl Harbor.
This may be my favorite Batman Movie. Not because it is Batman, but because it is a Burton film through and through.
Holy crap. I just realized that Paul Reubens played Penguin's dad twice!
This movie is one of the reasons why Batman forever and Batman & robin was too kid friendly. Too much of ANYTHING is bad for everyone.
Shonuff...
yeah.
It must remain perfectly balanced as all things should.
I like the dark tone for Batman movies
No. It's Warner Bros fault for listening more to McDonalds and Hasbro than to Burton. Only WB is to blame for what the franchise became.
Fun fact / reminder: The mental breakdown Selena has after resurrection is referenced in NC's Food Fight review.
Yeah i noticed it when i first saw it
Yeah, we know. It was brilliant
Link?
@@ChristopherFreeman0032 Just search Nostalgia Critic - Foodfight. Your bound to find it at the top of the results
Yeah, since I‘ve never seen „Batman Returns“ I only noticed this right now.
The “ fake news” part is hilarious. It happened in real life 😳
Pretty much.
Thanks for pointing out the punchline of the joke 😂
I know right 🤣 lmao
I miss the days when that was enough.
I miss those days. Can’t we just go back to those?
All those strange Selina/Catwoman scenes definitely have awakened something in me back then.
No wonder all my girlfriends turn out to be crazy.
That’s a first.
“How many times does she survive a fall?” Someone didn’t get the whole nine lives thing. Or the fact that she hated her life as timid Selina, so she wasn’t being a hypocrite to the woman she saved about needing Batman to save her. That’s the whole point of the dialogue man.
If I had a dollar for every time the NC doesn’t get something
She literally has nine lives? Like a video game character? That’s silly.
@@RocketMan2 it’s a Tim burton Batman film, it’s supposed to be silly
@@griffinfrench NC always just skims over movies unfortunately.
Yeah it was a good review overall, but I didn't agree with some of his points. Her mental breakdown being "funny"...wtf? I find more depth than humor out of that. And yeah, he completely missed the point of why she said that to the woman -- because she was once a helpless victim; i.e., women empowerment. But I guess his "hypocrite" remark was more of him being funny on purpose, so I don't want to take it overly serious.
29:05 “there is a kind of joy in how miserable it all is.” Sounds like something the Joker would say.
I mean, that is one of the reasons he is such a beloved villian. In a sick twisted way he is kinda relatable that it kinda hurts to admit it.
This was SUCH a good Christmas movie for this year. I'd even go so far as to say, the best choice.
"Sooo brooding, unpleasent, crazy...and dark" So...how a Batman movie should be.
This movie was propably the start of every latex catsuit fetishes.
correct
No but the character does..... Yes speaking for myself.... Erm happy TMI for you ^^
Agree
It was definitely one of my earliest boners, so I'm going to guess that fetish was earned.
congratulations your a prophet
I was 8 and my brother was 6 when our mother brought us to see this movie in theater. She was appalled by how dark and scary it was, while we were both ecstatic about it. It felt like we just saw something forbidden. It remains one of my fondest childhood memories to this day.
That’s awesome 😆👍🏻
Truth is, this is my favourite Batman movie to this day.
Only goes to show you have developed a sense of taste.
Same I love this movie and Michael Keaton is the best live action Batman ( in my opinion) however I do have hope for Robert Pattinson because from the trailer he gives me Michael Keaton Batman vibes
I'm not mad at you at all.
This is honestly one of my top favorite Batman movies
Agree, Ruby. Agree.
My favourite Tim Burton movie and 2nd favourite Batman movie after “The Dark Knight “
Fun fact: This was only the FIRST time Paul Rubens played The Penguin's father. He also played the father to Robin Lord Taylor's version of The Penguin, though not a Cobblepot, Penguin getting his surname from his mother (and anglicized from Kapelput), nonetheless he played his father, Elijah Van Dahl.
Wow thats the same dude? Nice find
This should have more likes.
also fun fact, the role of Penguin's father was supposed to be played by the OG Penguin, Burgess Meredith
Also, not his only superhero movie. I love Mystery Men. Such an underrated movie
@@joshualevan You could technically add Buffy the Vampire Slayer, he was a villain in that.
Here are some Fun fact
1. Arnold Schwarzenegger appears in cameo in Max's office you can see him in a photo with alongside Max. Foreshadowing Schwarzenegger actually joining Batman franchise years later surprised director didn't retcon it saying Victor Fries knew Max.
2. Paul Reubens reprised the role of Penguin's father in Gotham tv series
3. Selina Kyle quotes the Joker
4. Burgress Meredith was suppose to play Tucker Cobblepot but due to his poor health he rejected the offer
5. Shreck was suppose to appear in Batman the Animated Series at the studios behest but at the last minute it was decided to reimagine the character as Roland Daggett
Just out of curiosity what was the Joker quote Selina said
@@cash2346 "it's gonna be a hot time in the cold town tonight" as selina and bruce look at the x mas decorations being put up
Just to add to point 3, Selina and the Joker both quoted a real life song lyric. That song is even listed in the film credits specifically for that reason. It's not a case of Selina somehow knowing something that the Joker said despite that being impossible.
@@RoboBeastWarrior lot of people didn't catch her quiting joker despite her not being in the same room as him but it was a nice reference to the clown prince of crime
21:26 you know that's a dumb question. She's the Catwoman. Cats always fall on their feet
10:19 Alfred: It's supposed to be cold
“She goes from crying to laughing”
“You’re crazy”
Idk, that how I’ve been working through my 2020.
Maybe she’s ahead of the curve?
I've laughed and cried simultaneously as far back as the late 90s. Did it so hard I passed out at the kitchen table and scared the shit out of my sister once. "Mood stabilizers" my fat ass.
@@crazysilly2914 It had some good things, yes.
Such as the Chiefs, Dodgers (both ending long droughts), and Lakers winning.
Tim Burton: "We have Danny Devito dressed as a literal penguin, there's no way we can up the weird factor."
Christopher Walken: "Hold my Beer"
That Christmas picture was way too wholesome for this video. I love it.
Glad you liked it!
11:03 It’s not this way in every adaptation, but at least in BTAS it’s suggested that his “Batman Voice” actually is his real voice
That ending was really sweet. Especially Barney's smile, he always seemed like a very Santa-ish person. Hope he makes it through the pandemic unaffected and healthy. Merry Christmas
Thanks for watching!! Merry Christmas!!
Holy crap, that doordash ad was next level special. I simultaneously appreciate the classic 'You like me!' line whilst despairing that anyone born after 1995 is unlikely to understand or appreciate it.
Im always surprised at how long doug can act like a maniac for his sponsor. Thats dedication.
People in these movies either know Bruce is Batman or think he’s trying to kill Batman
Every time that they find out that the Batcave is underneath stately Wayne Manor, they automatically think that means that Bruce Wayne is Batman. You know, people, Batman could be renting that cave from Bruce. They went to the same college.
@@LadyOnikara Lego Batman with Joker thinking Batman and Bruce Wayne are roomates,best. joke. ever.
It's been a hell of a year everyone, just wanted to say:
*Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals.*
Keep the change, ya filthy animals.
(Shoots gun one more time) "And a Happy New Year!"
You've been smoochin' with my brother
It's just been a glorified flu season. Meh, expected worse.
And a happy new year of dround children
The film is so ridiculous and absurd…a whole masterpiece. Love it
Masterpiece Tim Burton' style.
22:43 I don’t know. It makes for cartoons,but it’s a movie. But if they throw trash like Papers,glass bottles,banana peels make sense or rocks it would’ve make sense. I know,the movie directors messed that up and don’t care for Logic.
I feel she is still the best live action cat women I've seen.
Yeah! I think she's good on to reprise her role in the Flashpoint movie.
Even tho Anne Hathaway was great to, I agree that Pfeiffer's catwoman has more personality and a more interesting backstory.
What about Eartha Kit's? Hers was pretty fun to watch.
However, I will admit this Catwoman is definitely S tier! The emotions brought to her performance were just top notch 👌🏾🔥
Hoping to God that Zoe Kravitz brings something great to the table when the new batman comes out🙏🏾
Fuck yes!
Factz i love Michelle Phiefer
“How many falls has she survived?”.. she’s a cat, 9 lives...
Yeah I was like "Uhm really dude? Catwoman, brought back to life in this one"
So she can be shot eight times in the head and be fine ?
@@RocketMan2 - as seen in the finale, yes.
@@randallflagg3700 So if she got shot in the head, and her brains sprayed everywhere, she would still be alive, but... in a comatose state? What about dismemberment? Cut her head off, would she still be alive like one of those heads in a jar from futurama?
@@RocketMan2 - That's the same thing as asking "so if Shreck pusher her out of a building and she crashed on the pavement she would still be allive?
If she was strapped to a helictoptumbrella and made to suffer another great fall, she would be cool?
What about If Max shot her point blank with a _Smith & Wesson_ Model 15 pistol *4* times?
How about getting fryed by a generator explosion, which let Max completely burned? Would she escape without a scratch?
As we've seen in the end of movie, she had died 7 times (it's a bit tricky since her first death as a human was able to give her these 9 lives, so does it count twice? ), so by the Burtonverse logic, the next one would be, well, her last freeby.
17:52 Batman apologizing for hitting a woman cracks me up
6:22 "must be this sick to enjoy", dude, I have laughed so hard on killing scenes that my friends wants to leave from the room more than being with me anymore.
The actress who played Penguin's mom is Diane Salinger, she was the Waitress Pee-Wee met and bonded with in Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. Simone.
So...things with Paris dude didn't work out?
Seriously, that'd be so weird if this was on the same universe!
thanks didn't know
It's been a while since I've seen this film, but I could've sworn Shrek said "Bruce Wayne? Why are you dressed as Batman?" or something like that.
He did
He did at the ending
He did. I laughed
and then Selina rightly called him a moron for not being able to add 1 + 0.
They can’t exactly show the film for every line in their review, or they’ll be demonetized.
Honestly, it was the 90s, I remember there being a Thomas the tank engine store at my mall, it honestly wouldn’t shock me if they had a batman store considering he’s a cultural icon for them
9:04 so THAT'S where the opening of the foodfight review originated
I cracked up 😆
The wholesome ending kinda tugged my heart strings a little
Not only because I’ve had the worst of 2020 with losing my mother to cancer and finding her dead, not being able to properly say goodbye with a funeral.
And being disabled with autism living on $800 a month it’s kind of a really hard thing not to end your life over it’s been pretty rough and your videos do put a spark and some happiness this year.
Hope you have a happy Christmas Doug thanks for the laughs
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Congratulations on 3k Subs, stay strong man, merry Christmas! 🎄
So sorry for your loss. I pray you have some comfort during these hard times. Just know that she's in the Lord's hands and that you're being watched over.
Definitely hoping your 2021 is BETTER than this one! Hope on!
Praying to God he makes it easy for you! Stay strong brother
I can’t get over the fact that Schreck offers Penguin “Unlimited Poontang.”
Penguin whenever I hear him say things sexually, he comes off like a mutant pervert lusting for that "Pootang". In 1992, you can get away with this but in 2020-21 onwards it would be seen as "sexual harassment".
I still enjoy Batman Returns but watching it now almost 30 years later it is very, very fucked up but know what? It's awesome!
The way you concluded the review was very nice. Wishing everyone a good holiday with such thoughtful, inspiring words. Fantastic and beautiful! Thank you. 😊
When we weren’t legally allowed to see family or friends for the holidays, this was a speech we desperately needed for Christmas 2020.
The Penguin totally works for me. The movie has its lengths, but I do love it.
Lengths?
Interestingly, Tim Burton didn’t want to do another Batman cause of how much the first Batman became a “studio” Batman. He only came back after the studio agreed to give him carte blanche.
"How dare you!?! I'm a woman!"
Brave and The Bold Batman: "The hammer of Justice is unissex!"
A tear for the attacks on chivalry in the last 20 years
@@crazysilly2914 They just stopped hiding it is all
Batman has said something similar to that a few times. Like, "I don't hit women. Criminals on the other hand..."
@@peytonmac1131 and i agree with that logic, hitting people in general is wrong, self defense isn't.
Batman, is a true hero of gender equality. He's the hero we need in these dark, & troubling times of the society we created, & are now forced to live in.
I'm a simple man, I see a Home Movies reference, I like.
same
I actually agree with Doug saying that whether Batman would kill or not depending on the version.
I’m looking at all of you Affleck haters!
Please don't call us affleck haters ben affleck's performence as batman is amazing and him killing is snyder's fault not affleck's call us snyder haters ☺️
@@omarsalem1219 Meh, at least Snyder made a better Justice League than Joss Whedon.
“It looks like you wear black leather to cope, too!” Hey now, stop delving into my secret life you pervs! 😂
50 shades detected
WTF?!
I have a disagreement with Penguin's characterization.
We the audience are shown how tragic his life has been, but only because we need that context for how he manages to get through the story the way that he does. We also see what a complete monster of a person he is simply BECAUSE we're the audience. It makes us root for Batman all the more.
In-universe, the fact that his monstrous tendencies are so kept in check and under wraps while they push his tragedy as hard as they do is only done for the people's perspective. It's a plot device, used to move the story forward.
We the audience still know he's a total dickbag, but we're given all this fluff about him being sympathetic because the rest of the world in the movie is being fed it in order to get them on his side, not to get the audience on his side.
My thoughts exactly!! If he was just a complete momster we'd just have a Killer Croc side villain.
@@Jacqthepossposs Yeah; real tragic. Shame that basically every adaptation portrays Killer Croc as little more than a brute. I get it; he's not the brightest bulb in Batman's Rouges Gallery, but could we maybe see more to him on a character level than just a thug?
I'm honestly surprised that, as far as I know, the show _Gotham_ never involved Killer Croc. That could've been a perfect opportunity for showing audiences his origins.
@@Jacqthepossposs I see. I probably should mention that I don't read comics.
@@Jacqthepossposs Because I'm not counting comics as "adaptations"; I'm counting them as source material. I thought that was clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
26:54 Uh Arthur, is this a warm moment or should we be disturbed?
🤷🏻♂️
If people thought Tim Burton's Penguin was too dark for kids, look up his designs of Brainiac for the canceled Superman movie he was almost supposed to make.
Brainiac was also going to be in the cancelled Superman Returns sequel, which would've had more action in it.
Wish we got it, as we're still waiting for his big screen debut. And I wish Returns had the action as well.
he missed the best line of the film "you're just jealous that I'm a genuine freak, and you have ot wear a mask"
"Honey, I'm home. Oh I forgot, I'm not married" was my favorite line 😅
I still quote the honey I'm home part while coming home to my own apartment years later lol
14:11
"Oh shit, I need to make my sponsor video for the week."
*proceeds to cry into the camera for 2 minutes*
"That'll work."
lol @ 26:30. Great review Doug. I loved this movie as a kid and still do and I always found it weird Keaton played the McDonald's founder as well. Brava.
Broke: "Is Die hard a Christmas movie?"
Woke: "Is Batman returns a Christmas movie?"
There are likeable characters, so the answer is no.
@@Igorcastrochucre in which one?
Niet
super woke: IS IRON-MAN 3 A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!??!
@@stephenquinn7931 both.
The thing about non-Christmas movies being called Christmas movies is simply: "Are you ok with not talking or acknowledging this film for 11 months of the year?"
With Die Hard? Yes
Wha
I watch The Santa Clause in the middle of the year, pretty sure I can watch die hard in those 11 months
@@colinpierce1788 Good thing since Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie.....Just passively having a story happen to be at some point in December does not make it a Christmas movie...It just happens to be Christmas, its NOT a Christmas party, it was a party for a big deal that had just been signed, there are ZERO Christmas decorations anywhere in the building.. Hans isn't doing it because its Christmas, he just wanted to get into the vault period the time made zero difference.....Writing Ho, Ho, Ho now I have a machine gun is the closest thing to a December reference.
Batman Returns actually takes place around Christmas, Christmas is mentioned ALOT, it doesn't just happen to be the time frame that the movie is set in.
Thank you for the "McDonald's comment."
I was an Edgar Allen Poe/Goosebumps kid. No, I didn't have many friends. In any case, I've always thought Tim Burton's dark and gritty vision of Gotham was spot on for what was essentially the dark and gritty make up of Bruce Wayne's world. Very much like Dark Knight, that came back and saved the franchise.
Elizabeth Sanders who says the line, *"he's like a frog that became a prince" is the widow of Batman creator, Bob Kane and would go on to play Gossip Gerty in Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.
Thing about the batman/catwoman relationship note, she's become more of an anti-hero, and the two have actually been canonically romantically linked from time to time since this movie dropped
Or even have their daughter Helena
yeah.
Before. Before 1985 there were at least Two Earths in the Comics Earth 1 and Earth 2. Earth 2 was the Earth launched back in 1938 with Superman, Batman etc. On Earth 2 Batman was older married to Selina Kyle with their teenaged daughter Helena Wayne aka The Huntress. After Crisis in 1985 Helena was reintroduced on Earth Prime as Helena Bertinelli The Huntress
@@MrJackfaire I knew about the multiple earths, but forgot about the Batman in it. Thanks for the catch! Seems it hit the mainstream after this iteration, as far as I can tell
I will always ship Batman with Catwoman! No other person connects and understands Bruce like she can
Wait, why did they remove the plot about Penguin and Shreck being brothers? That would have fixed so many of the problems. Penguin wants revenge for his parents favoring Shreck and trying to kill him, and Catwoman teams up with him because Shreck tried to kill her. There, that connects so much without feeling forced.
The real Question is why would the people allow the Penguin to run for Mayor. He bite a guys nose??????
Batman: *"LET HIM FIGHT THE CLOWNS"*
Danny DeVito is still the best Penguin, and Michelle is still the best Catwoman
Isn't he the only live action penguin, barring television?
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 nope, there's 2 other live action penguins, one from the Adam West Batman and the other from Gotham, which i feel indifferent about.
Halle berry was better as catwoman
@@samrussell9742 Halle Berry was closer to a stripper than Catwoman.
@@samrussell9742 Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha