Worlds Fastest Shingler VS Apprentice and Tosser
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Someone who sits and kneels will never be as fast as someone who stays on their feet nice job like always!
That's right! I could never do it! Had to condition my back to tack it,20 years later my back is fucked! Lol but faster than most
Yea some guys can move but I rarely kneel. Stretching is important before hand
Not always true I got 2 guys on my crew 40+ yrs old that kneel or sit down and they put on 12+ sq a day
@@mathewmccurry1140 12 square a day I hope they only work a four-hour day
@@NWIVeteranConstruction yes stretching has got important as getting older I realized,12 sq a day?? That shows right there how much slower it makes you! Should have that on by lunch time,when starting to shingle first thing in the morning
Man Keep them videos rolling. We need MORE
Will do
My boss would get on my ass if he caught me sitting down while tossing😂 especially if I was taking 10 seconds to open a bundle on top of that☠️
oh i would've too! lol boycub should've been on him, or maybe i should've offered em both 100 bucks if they win, might've put a lil pep in his step
@@NWIVeteranConstruction what state i'd live to work for you
What a good idea for a video.. your a beast enjoyed watching
Glad you enjoyed
Awesome video! Was well worth the watch! (Drank a case in 53mins lol)
Lmao thanks
Love the videos brotha!
Glad you like them!
Enjoyed this. You helped me start my own company
Bro I love to hear that! Thank you for telling me. All I care about in these videos is helping others be better. Be it through skills or motivation. You just helped me in return man I'm really going to make sure I put these videos as a priority for help rather than entertainment
@@NWIVeteranConstruction Have my first roof tomorrow and it's has two stone should chimneys to flash in. Low and behold you had a video on that 👍👍 Thank you
fantastic vid guys!!!!!
Thank you!
I felt like i was on the roof but i never got paid.. I’m need a check bro!! .. nice work!
Haha sorry about ya
I'm still waiting on a check too.. He said he mailed it out February 30th.. I'm sure I'll be getting it any day now 😂😂.. Jk Jk..
Salute from Detroit 👌👌
Nice! An hours worth. Good work guys 💪💪
Yes it was! thank you
We do shingles from time to time but the company I work for specializes in flat roofs, commercial and industrial usually putting on PVC or TPO, we do shingles on buildings from time to time, we shingled San Joaquin Delta college in Stockton CA.. not sure how many squares because I’m pretty green but we did like 10 different buildings, love watching your videos and how you guys get down.
awesome to hear bud get down on them flattys! im about to as well, but in that river in the backround of this video, i know there's some flatty's in there waiting on me lol
10x10 ft is a square
10x10 ft is a square
@@aurorasplawn5024 ahh i see I knew it was something like that.. thanks for the info as sad as it is to say I’d probably eyeball the roof and count the squares and be off by my count I have a shitty eye for lengths unless I’m pulling tape I’m always off by like 5 feet whenever I tell coworkers “you got about 10 feet to the edge” I’m always super strong on my numbers not short but getting better
@@Justin-cl7lg same here, only did shingle houses twice the rest of all flat roofs here in nyc,..
But ever since I’ve started watching this channel I’ve been itching to do a shingle roof to put what I’ve learned from here
Boycob has came a long way man is a hard worker
Having a feeder always slowed me down .. Those few seconds you wait on a shingle/ starter add up .... If I'm on a steep roof, and we're setting jacks, I'll gladly wait to few extra seconds on my feeder 😆😆
I loved it ..Many times when I drive by a job . And it's the middle July here in SC .. I point up and tell my wife " Look at all those guys roofing .. That's male privilege !!" .. I am an older carpenter and the few roofing jobs I have done in my life . The temp was about 2 degrees above molten lava . Wanted to jump off the roof , Headfirst into a cube of brick .. granted I have sheathed hundreds of roofs in my days and it can get savagely hot up there all day . Question .. What is the most comfortable pitch to roof ?? ..I heard some like a 4/12 and others like 10/12' .. Personally as a carpenter .. I like an 8/12 to sheathe .. Not as much back break and the toes still cling to the roof .. I believe roofers have one of the most grueling jobs on earth and go straight to Heaven when they die .
it was 120 on are roof today
Nice job
Thank you
I think World faster shingler is sort of prideful name.
Also I am a roofer
I've seen alot of faster guy.
But i understand of the heat and slope.
And i really love your performance and detail as well.
Stay best roofer and drink a lot of water!
Yes sir thank you!
Nice Drop on the rake
I’ve always been faster without a thrower. Just because it’s hard to find a guy that throws shingles the way you like them to be thrown.
What a boss.
I do what I can lol thank you sir
You're only as good as your laborer, there was alot more he could have been doing to help speed up the process but that's on the guys with more experience for not giving him direction :) someone els said this but it's true, tool belt for coils, hammer, hacket, knifes even snips, he could be pre cutting the 2 shingles for his gable edge and instead of handing shingles he could be placing them above him on the next shingles so all he has to do is pull it down a bit to set the shingle less moving for the installer and you can place the shingles like that all the way up your run so you're never really just standing around being useless lol but either way you guys still killed it
What do you charge per square just labor on a 4/12 pitch like the roof you just did
ouwouu. i don't do labor prices i don't really know honestly. average cost per sq right now is probably around 400 with material and dump and all. so this garage would've been about 3200 all together
This was over at about 21:45. The tosser needs some more instruction. The nailer on the left should never have had to touch a full bundle of shingles.
Yea he was a fresh tosser I will give boycub that much. He prolly could've beat me if he had organized the tosser a little better
If I was his shagger I promise we would have beat you. But man let’s not forget when boycub started shingling man I gotta say I’m impressed he is pretty damn good now.
when you toss them its faster to hand them over at hands reach, one after another, move anything in the way
Here we go,and start
oh yea, this was a fun one. feels good to have a little competition again, just needed to give the kid a feeder to get it lmao
When does boy cub finally become man cub he's starting to kill it lol
Lmao I told him a long time ago when he gets a 13 sq day. I think he has but I just can't call him Mancub lmao
Tosser stops for a nice long drink at the end like he did something lmao. 5 second wait for a shingle, he would’ve been better off without him
Title of video:
Left side:
*"TYPICALLY AMERICAN HARD WORKER"*
🤣🤣🤣😅😳
Gentlemen , (because , let's face it , all the haters are MEN) it's not about speed or quality . It's about being EFFICIENT . Efficiency is the happy marriage between speed and quality. Zack does his work like a battalion commander . It's not about the tools you have or the men you have. It's about knowing where and when to put those assets into battle to affect the closest outcome to your mission goals . You could see from the video , that Zack and Boycub both had all the starter , shingles, nails and space they needed to do the job. However , did you notice WHERE Zack put those assets ? They were ALWAYS just a step ahead of him, ALWAYS within arms-reach . It's about being EFFICIENT ! If you put a step-counter on Zack and Boycub , you would notice that Boycub takes 3 times the number of steps to complete THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK ! LOL , that is , if a dropped knee counts as a step ! Anyone ever noticed how often Zack stretches his back ? Do you know WHY he does that ? BECAUSE HE IS ON HIS FEET ALL DAY !! THAT'S WHAT WORK IS !! The only time Zack gets on his knees , is to cut in a vent , do some flashing , drip edge , or starter. He gets on his knees to lay his FOUNDATION . That's where the quality thing comes in.Vents CANNOT leak . Flashing CANNOT leak , eave and rake trim and starter HAVE TO be straight !! Shingling can be done with our eyes closed . The eave and rake are the PERIMETER . Preparation of these in roofing , is the same as securing your perimeter in the field of battle . The foundation for the fight ! To KNOW your environmental boundaries . You may not realize it , but walking a roof all day places muscle memory in your head with regard to that perimeter . How many steps from rake to rake etc. How many steps from ridge to eave . That's what keeps us from stepping off the roof . Which only proves that your head needs to be as organized as your body to accomplish ANY task ! You always have the right clothing , boots , pouch , tools , materials to complete the job. How about getting your head involved too !! Humans are inherently LAZY . BUT !! There are 2 kinds of lazy . 1) people who DON'T WANT TO EXERT ANY ENERGY to get something done. 2) People who KNOW that there is a more productive way to accomplish a task . People , DON'T waste steps ! Be they footsteps , or steps in a process . Each step we take , takes us closer to our goals . Wouldn't you rather reach your goal with energy left over ? Zack has a REASON to put his feet up when he gets home . He worked all day . But.....if he gets spun up later today , he will have the energy to complete that task too . I taught all my sons to ask themself a question before doing something . " IF I DO THIS , WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ?" In relationships , life , and work , ask yourself that question before doing everything . It will save you time , effort , AND , it will save you a recall to that very place in your life . I wish you all happiness in everything .
You're the man and you speak nothing but facts and I can tell it comes from experience. Best comment ever
Zack , I don't know how people just don't get it !!
Gd wrk zak!
Killin it bro
Thanks 🔥
Any tips for me as a new roofer? I’ve been doing it for a week now , I pass my boss the shingles into his hands and he lines them up and nails them in . I’d say i am faster/more consistent than the tosser in the video . Do you guys have any tips for me as to how I could be a better shingle passer/tosser?
Watch my tips and tricks video. But mainly it's the same stuff. Predict what he wants n where he needs to go.
I've even taken it as far to cut rakes and around pipes for him if you can learn it well enough. Get him a stack n work on something in the mean time
@@NWIVeteranConstruction sounds good, I will check those out . I appreciate the help !
Don’t watch this guy he’s a joke
@@roblewis7354as a roofer and someone who's watched this and some of his other vids. Nah your wrong this guy dose good work.
How many roofs a year do you guys do?
Not as many as I'd like I take too many siding jobs. Trying to do only roofs though the rest of the year
Some people really don’t know what “fast” is. He’s a good shingler and knows what he’s doing can’t deny that, but definitely not considered “fast”
Bro show me ONE! JUST ONE other shingler that can start a side as quick as me. I'm about to create a new one sq challenge
@@NWIVeteranConstruction ha8trs gonna hate your faster than me fo sure
@@NWIVeteranConstruction except you didn't start that side without help. We saw the kid laying out your starter. They probably put on your drip and laid out your bundles. Plus you got no warranty because you never used your gauge. I will give you mad respect for not nailing the garbage on the top run down over the other side
Boycub is getting better for sure
oh yea, 4 sq in an hour when putting on starter, creating your stair step, and cutting your end rake, ain't no picnic even with a tosser. I'm proud of him.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction I know what you mean .back in the 80s I trained plenty of roofers here in Alabama we used roofing hatchet made by plumb .remember them .red handles
maybe its just me or the camera angle but it looks like u both are diving alil but probably just the way it looks on camera lol like it has a arch lol
its the angle. i went up today and looked to double check myself lmao i meant to make an outro showing exactly that but forgot and wanted this video up so it is what it is lol
Now that is how you make money
Hey bro how can I send u some videos I'm a big dude but fast and do a lot of steep roofs always with a feeder
Post em on CZcams n comment your link. Best way I know of. Makes the roofing community on here a lil better anyway we need real shinglers posting shingling footage
@@NWIVeteranConstruction I was watching one of ur steeper roofs I always do my first 6 rows off a ladder and then get the sponge and just go up but I have a feeder
Hey bro I just posted a short video it's just a garage I posted it under regular roofer it was like 5 sq on a Saturday after a long week
Hey buddy you have any shingle prices go up out ur way?
Oh yea I think we're getting em all Across the board lol I've been getting warned since last year and I know we've had several on shingles and roofing accessories. Plus aluminum by like 20% this year
@@NWIVeteranConstruction yeah same here I've been getting told shingles are going over for months now up I just told my rep yeah yeah and they finally dinged me for another $5 a sq and accessories are up
Everything has gone up. I know our gutter stuff has gone up 5 times since last August.
I couldn't do using a tosser that close Grab me 3/4 of a bundle and put them on my foot, and nails when my pouch gets low. Outside of that, get out of my way and let me run.
same! i have them open and spread my bundle down the run like i normally do for myself and i pound away. and on really big runs, if they're competent enough i'll have them go down to my bottom row and butt the shingles in place next to each other (like parallel to the gutter)...and then i'll go across it and lay 10-15 shingles in like 20 seconds.. i just check to see its straight, bang, check to see, bang. all while he spreads my bundle out. i did 10 sq in one hour like that before with a really good tosser. i nailed on prolly 3 square of it without ever touching the shingles lol
Agreed. My boss likes a passer. I can't stand it. Unless they really know what they are doing and can keep up it just slows me down and then what's the point?
@@RabidParana1 yea generally somebody putting shingles in your hand ain't gonna do much. It's the grabbing bundles and opening them that saves you time. especially if they can set them up nice for you so you're just in a constant state of pound town lol
@@NWIVeteranConstruction I will only take a passer on one occasion. I've got a labour who can get far enough ahead he's got nothing else to do. And then I slow down and use that time to teach them. Next time get your hammer and nails ready cause you're more useful putting on starts or bottoms or whatever
Everyone I know runs out all the starters..f that, I lay them as I go. Good win tho. 👍
I usually just lay enough to get my 2 rows across the bottom (I only do that for 1 Bundle worth) but it was so small n I was right there plus all I could think of was the essential craftsman video about productivity when he said "if you have to drill holes, drill all the holes, if you have to move wood, move all the wood" lmao
After I get done prepping, I always go ahead and tack my starters down with my tacker, and as I'm shingling, I'll nail my starters down before putting the first shingle on each row
@@timbibin1301 I've done that, same with the drip.
@@stevejones8486 .. I actually nail my starters low, so I'm hitting the starter, and drip edge at the same time
I'm not even watching. Just listening and reading comments. I have barely ever done shingles. It's just hot on the roof. There is not one other thing about it that is hard.
Man I wish i could learn from the company owner. Insane knowledge/skilss
Yea its nice to get straight to the source. But I do have a great channel here if you search around you can see all the process n learn
Have you ever seen someone nail 4 an hour by hand?
Love these videos. I'm not going to knock anyone's workmanship or their skills, but I've seen faster shinglers/shooters. That being said your way is still very efficient and I gotta agree with the pouch thing. It weighs ya down and puts more load on the back. I keep a straight blade, a hook blade and 2 rolls of coils in my vest now because the pouch just carries ma shit and makes me heavy
Right on brotha! But yea I'd love to see someone else lay 4 sq an hour through 3 vents and both rakes, alone with starter lol I've been trying to inspire these guys to show us! I wanna learn too if they do it better lmao
They definitely don't do anything better or worse. Your way is your way. We shoot 6 nails, but I notice you guys use a whole different shingle too. They look nice to work with.
I definitely have to say that I appreciate the level of tranquility and peace thats there on the site though... lol doesn't seem as though there's any conflict
Hahaha I'm pretty sure the name of that title is wrong the name of the video should be that slowpoke shinglers
prolly
Dammmnnnn deleted good work boy cub saw him checking nail placement on gables and all
yea i got the basics drilled into that kid, you can even see the very last shingle we had to talk about it lmao
Nice to see you making videos again I been laying my squares and doing repairs down here in Florida hot as shit man keep up the good work
ILL FEED THREE boycubs that tosser is walking if your gonna have a tosser you need to read your shinglers mind i like tossers on 8 pitch and higher makes every thing more convenient but straight up that boy is getting in boycubs way
Straight up! Lol not fair really
Standing there yacking to we jabronis, just cost you 100 bucks...
boy cubs side doesn't look straight but other than that looks good keep it up
It actually was. That garage was built terribly. We jacked it up and reframed a bunch to get it looking just okay lol I meant to do a walk through but forgot n wanted to get the video up so I decided to skip it. That thing was all humpy
@@NWIVeteranConstruction i feel ya bro you should see the garage im doing now its built even worst than. It makes are jobs harder when its like that
@@ralphpann5816 sure does! I'm making a video now about why I'm not putting my siding on level lol crooked garage that's why
@@NWIVeteranConstruction thats a great idea deff do that.
Great job but speed isnt everything. Quality is key over speed when it comes to construction.
No quality was sacrificed bud thank you
It don't count if it's trash. There's no glory in being the fastest hack
So true
Interesting. My buddy and I are about to redo my roof next week. I have done a few roofs and he's done a lot more. It seems the tosser doesn't speed you up that much and will be far better off doing our own patch of roof individually, rather then me throw shingles at him.
Depends on the experience of both guys. If you guys watch closely on how I shingle and know exactly how to organize the process then separate is better. Otherwise 2 ants will almost surely get more done together than separate
@@NWIVeteranConstruction You were right.. It was mostly much faster for my Wife to toss shingles at my buddy while I did all the cutting.. I had to move pretty quickly to avoid getting behind though..:)
Well not trying to smack the tosser in this video but there were tons of times when the shooter didn't have singles ready for several seconds because he went to grab more, after he fully ran out. Most of it comes down to work ethic, and a steady pace. Also the owner of the video is pretty darn fast, so it's hard to keep up with two novices or average roofers.
Not trying to criticize....asking for own knowledge...but, no water/ice shield?
no issue bro i knew i'd get this at least once lol its a detached, unheated garage. the ice and water is only required in my area on heated buildings.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction ahh ok makes sense, couldn’t tell the building type. good old NWI. Live in Hobart myself. Thanks for the info/tips man! Me and my buddy kinda overkill it and always put 2 rows on bottom,1 row up gables, and a row on bottom of garage. 🤷🏻♂️
it is what it is. this was basically hobart it was lake station. you guys need a job? lol
email me at zack.ahearn.az@gmail.com
That tosser ain’t worth af
You ain't wrong lol!
Hander, if you dont constantly sit on your ass cheeks, be a man and or buy some kneepads, you can mount yourself beside your shingler, and be constantly passing him shingles. If you also raise the bottom of the lip up so its ready to just fall onto your shinglers hands, all he has to do is gauge it! Cheers from Manitoba bois
Yea he did a terrible job for boycub
Man everyone can do it better bla bla bla. Great content and I enjoy watching
I know right lol thank you glad you enjoy
ohhh i think im 2nd comment... hahah maybe :) good stuff guys
With a good tosser I can definitely do a square in 10 to 15 min boy cub got shafted buy the tosser
I'm sure you can do a sq faster with a tosser...boycub can lay a square in under 9 minutes alone...and i did it in 6 minutes alone lol
You’re not that fast. Gable to gable 4sq is on average an hour. 4/12 pitch, what we call gravy
I'm pausing this video at 4 min, 46 sec, this one guy already has his 3 corners done, these 2 Fools don't have shit done, the other is watching Chuck Norris kick ass, who's gonna win this🤔🤔🤔🤔
lol
I wouldn’t say the fastest 🤣😂
My only complaint is those unAmerican shoes you have on. I wouldn’t wear them to clean a sewer #BoycottNike
i can understand that
Down with Nike for sure.
I respect the competition aspect, but getting your lines snapped and prep done is only showcasing that your fast at putting shingles down and not much else. Getting around the cut in and doing the start quick and efficiently is the mark of a good journeyman, so cutting that out defeats the purpose of the competition to me.
I had to make it competitive somehow. You can see the metal is on good and it didn't take long but I'd likely lose a lot of viewers if that was included. They would get bored sooner
Not true. You would lose the viewers who are "impressed" by your speed. You would gain viewers who want to learn. You choose the more superficial stupid audience.
@@matthewhewitt5613 I've got other videos for that
I know a few Mexicans that would smoke you shingling
wish i knew em too! lets see it. i'm starting to sub some of my roofs out to what i hear is a ridiculously fast Guatemalan crew. like 80 sq steep roof off and dried in by 11. shingled by 6. only 4 guys...and i can't wait to race them. but for now, nobody's posting shit like I've posted over the last 2 years. let's see these boys create their stair step n get sumn going and we'll talk!
Their work prop ..looks like crap..nails up .leaks. etc
What is the guy in the blue doing 🤦♂️ 2 shingles at a time are you serious😂😂 boycub could have came close maybe won if dude had some work ethic
Yea boycub should have directed him better
That flipper has no idea what's going on and the guy installing needs to learn to use the guage on his gun. I could beat the both of them if I was working at half speed...
Lol! Prove it man. Do the one square challenge. I created that challenge for guys just like you! Guess what. They almost never post their times. My best is 6:10. Check the videos out. Post your time even when it's 8 minutes and I'll still Welcome you to the channel! Welcome my friend
@@NWIVeteranConstruction I got out of roofing full time about 5 years ago and got my CDL. I still do a few roofs a year to make extra cash, I have a 38sq job coming up in a few weeks. I'll check out the 1sq challenge and see what I can do 😆
👍
Have you worked with Mexicans? 🚀
yessir. beasts!
Nothing like a hot ass day your but crack wet from your back
It was the most hot humidity day we had lol
@@NWIVeteranConstruction bunch of beef slow roasting on a roof
There you go boycott u finished u good
He did a good a good job for sure
Hes fast no shittt ..... hes only putting 4 nails....duhhh
Cinco claves
Boy cub can barely move his feet race someone else
I did about a year ago. Great video check it out
Here we go, worlds most average roofer acting like he's fast lmao. You're right handed, why don't you roof like it?
Lmao! Bro. That is how right handers shingle. How can you talk s*** when you don't know the first thing
@@NWIVeteranConstruction I've been roofing 20 years and you shingle backwards. Do yourself a favor and just try starting from the other side. The way you roof now your grabbing your shingle with your left hand and then have to slide it to the left to line it up. Starting on the other side, you still grab the shingle with your left hand but you slide it yo the right to line it up. Much easier and 10x faster.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction the way you roof youre always moving to your left. If your right handed, why would your movements go left? Thats like a right handed baseball player trying to bat on the left side lmao
@@rustyshackleford1562 bro you're nearly alone on this one. I've only seen 2 right handers do well that way and they're both on the same crew. They did my one square challenge. Which if you're so Damn sure of yourself should do as well. It's simple n I'm sure you've seen it, if not search it up. You have to set down your gun that way unless you do it like those 2 guys. And yes as a right hander you grab with your left hand. If you look, my shingles are perfectly set on my left and easy to grab all the way up. You can't have your shingles on your right and expect to grab them with your left and I ain't a fan of putting a bundle on my feet. Post a one sq challenge and we can talk. I ain't gonna talk to a random that refuses to believe he was taught wrong and slow lol
@@NWIVeteranConstruction You absolutely do not have to set down your gun that way. Most people set it down the way you roof, you don't so I give you props for that anyway. Looking down from the peak, if you start on the left side instead of the right, you move to the right, and slide your shingle to the right to line it up. You put your first nail in on the right side of the shingle, adjust the left side and nail it down. I may be the odd man out on this one but that doesn't make me wrong. Every right hander that shingles like you may be following the directions on the wrapper but its still backwards.
Keep ur lines straight pls 😆🤣😂😹😆🤣
Who cares about shingles they are garbadge
Worlds fastest. Lol there is a mexican in every town near me just as fast or faster. Also, makes a huge difference if you are good, but not arrogant.
Fast?? Far from it!
show me somebody doing it better creating stair steps. i'd love to see fast, especially faster than me so i can learn a lil bit
@@NWIVeteranConstruction im not trying to be a hater i enjoy your videos but the crews we use here in east TX are crazy fast. I wish i had the time to slow down and film them but im always too busy working myself.
should make it for me. i've watched plenty of fast crews on youtube n i've yet to see even one person that i think could do a full 8 sq side faster than me. one v one. there's levels to this
@@NWIVeteranConstruction CZcams is a joke when it comes to trades, hardly any really skilled tradesman have the time or knowledge to set up a camera and upload - Besides you and a few others.
Zack is a complete clown
Clowns make over 100 an hour last time I checked son
It’s a 4/12 and No pipes big deal my man.
No pouch no knees pad come on
Been through this lol you're late to the party.
Your fired pal hack jack roofing
@@Blingwat56 lmao I'd love to hear what I did wrong 🤣
Posting this video for starters
@@Blingwat56 that's the type of answer I Expected. Welcome future fan happy to have you.
Still junk you walk to much laying out starters and first shingle waste of time