This and That: 2022 Olympic Games Ice Dance Recap with Sandra Bezic (Papadakis and Cizeron)
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- Sandra Bezic joins us to make sense of the CAS ruling in the Kamila Valieva doping case and helps us to recap the ice dance event at the 2022 Olympic Games. Gabriella Papadakis and Guillaume set a standard in ice dance with their magnificent performances, Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue gave power and connection, Madison Chock and Evan Bates explored space romance, and Viktoria Sinitsina and Nikita Katsalapov gave us a Russian classic with a twist of Paganini. We break it all down, including highlights from Olivia Smart and Adrian Diaz, and Lilah Fear and Lewis Gibson, in the latest edition of 'This and That'.
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Thank you Dave for calling on Sandra. She has covered some major moments in our sport. One of the great stewards of our past time. Excellent choice to guide us through this dark hour.
Well said
And you just feel her compassion. It's a hug we all need.
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0:00 Doping scandal, history of corruption in skating (18:43 what will the isu do)
24:40 dance event
25:05 Montreal teams
28:31 Smart/Diaz
32:46 Fear/Gibson
37:12 Hawayek/Baker
38:05 Chock/Bates
42:10 Sinitsina/Katsalapov
46:02 Hubbell/Donohue
50:50 Sapporo olympics
52:15 Papadakis/Cizeron
58:25 Gilles/Poirier
1:03:11 Stepanova/Bukin
1:05:07 Guignard/Fabbri
1:09:58 Beaudry/Sorensen
1:11:54 Lagha/Joie
1:15:00 Moment of the event
1:17:31 Nathan Chen
1:19:44 Pairs event preview
Thank you!
Thank you so much!!!
When you said that the commentators aren’t really walking us through this scandal like Sandra did in 2002, that is the role that the Figure Skating Lesson has taken on! You all are filling in the gaps in much needed coverage. Love Sandra. I think the other overhead lift she is thinking of was in Nick and Lolo’s gladiator long program.
Only 7 minutes in and Sandra is already the most articulate queen on how we're all feeling I have ever heard on this situation.
One thought while listening this conversation - we should be talking about consequences, but we also should be verbalizing what we truly want and value and that is CHANGE. It's not even about giving consequences and punishment but the greater goal of change for a corrupt system.
Just want to add that after 2002 I think figure skating in North America may have lost a lot of fans except for the die hards. It’s seemed like a joke to a lot of people and nothing has really changed except how they score
Sandra's comment about Kamila: "Shouldn't we just take her home and give her care?" made me tear up. That's everything. Thank you again for your outstanding in-depth coverage of this situation. 100% the best in the world right now.
Instead everyone hates kamila without really knowing the truth.
@EB18 we are talking Eteri Tuberitze. She doesn’t even care for her own daughter.
@@jjh2456 true, she’s a full blown narcissist for sure. It’s all about her own image & success. Doesn’t matter how many children must be ruined in the process.
@@riaanamclean I think most people know it wasn’t Kamila’s idea or if she even knew what she was taking. But she’s ultimately the public face because she’s the one who tested positive. So she’ll be the one people will talk about. And the adults who did this to her somehow aren’t in the public hot seat & continue to do wrong by her.
@@riaanamclean your right , they should be hating her coach and team . Shabotova and gubanova talked about the drugs but nobody did anything and that same team kicked them out of Russian federation .
I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE SANDRA!!!
Sandra is a beautiful and knowledgeable soul. Thank you for having her as your guest. ❤
She’s the BEST.
Sandra is a delight every time. Empathy, grace, style, charm. Thanks, Dave! Fabulous to watch after a horrid day for the sport.
❤️❤️❤️
Thrilled to see Papadakis and Cizeron won. L’élégie by French impressionist composer-Fauré with modern ballet movements made this trophy program. I also love their Moonlight Sonata bt Beethoven. Quel beau chef-d’œuvre!
They are 🤩 amazing artists on ice
Dave and Jonathan, I am so incredibly impressed with your knowledge, insight, and work ethic. I’m a long time subscriber but I just want to reiterate how much this skating fan appreciates you. You are, as many others have stated, far beyond any other professional reporters or broadcasters in the sport. A huge thank you!
“I hope this (glass of water) doesn’t have TMZ in it.” The best line ever.
why not, could be able to do quads..
For this whole season, I feel like Gabriella and Guillaume have battled assertions that their best days - both artistically and athletically - are behind them as dancers due to their free dance leaving a lot of people cold. This Olympics put those critiques to rest. To me, this is a high point throughout their entire body of work. The music they chose to embody was just exquisite, and I felt so much watching them. They were just on another level.
Yes absolutely, the people who were saying it was boring, just don’t understand what they are trying to do, and don’t understand their high artistic skills. No other pair would have been able to do that and pull it off. No other team.
I liked this free dance and performance, but I still think their peak was in the 2018-2019 season, especially technically. That was their best and most difficult/complex set of programs, imo.
100%. They’re a million times greater than the next-best in the field.
They deserved to win but this years program itself was tired and no masterpiece. Not every Olympic program is a piece of art. This year the programs are weak but the skating great
when Sandra brought up "protecting" a minor, the other athletes, and the sport she was absolutely right. protecting the other innocent athletes and the sport trumps just protecting one athlete who regardless of her age tested positive.
Thank you Sandra you feel like a palate cleanser from all the crazy things that is happening! I was initially underwhelmed by G&G's Free Dance at the start of the season. But the more you watch it, the more beautiful it becomes. It's not the most rousing of music that would rouse spectators, but it's pure dance. It's art.
Yes! I feel like they’re marble sculptures come to life in the museum after dark. Guillaume is literally the most beautiful skater I’ve ever seen.
I loved the music from the start, and although some thought it wasn’t a good choice for Olympics I liked it and was expecting it would fill up and reach its full potential at the Olympics. With gpf cancelled and them not going to Europeans we didn’t get to see the full evolution, but I was delighted to see the full product at the Olympics and like you said, I felt it was art
Yes completely agree! I feel like the whole dance vent was a palate cleanse from the past few days, just so much class and beautiful skating (massive shout out to IAM for that lol). Also agree about the P/C free, was kind of blah about it the first time I saw it, but last night it was stunning.
My goodness…Sandra hasn’t aged a day since 2002. Thanks for having her on…it’s so refreshing to have her commentary, intelligence and empathy during this time
I’m so sad that Gabi and Guillaume’s win has been entirely overshadowed by this doping scandal. Congrats to them on their world record and insanely well-deserved OGM. Like Nathan, they didn’t just win, they dominated and won by the biggest margin in CoP Olympic history.
Gutted for Chock and Bates. Sad about their RD slip but that free to me is best of the season by a mile. At least it was different and said something.
All I needed was a P/C win and we got it. A million congrats to them, redemption is soooo sweet!
THIS IS an A+! Thanks Dave, Jonathan, and Sandra... especially Dave for his countless hours of dedication and care for figure skating.
Love French, loved both Americans but Olivia/Adrian were the moment for me. Even though I adore Sara Hurtado I was very happy other Spanish team could go to the Olympics and show that amazing program 🤩
Yes! They had the most memorable performance
This year’s dance felt so much better than 2018. So many teams had mistakes last time and last night felt like a display of talents. Very few errors and just great skating!
Also, absolutely love when Sandra is on! I miss her commentating.
I'm not going to lie.... this video has made my entire day. Seeing Sandra was exactly what we all needed. Thank you.... I can only imagine how tired you all are!
Sandra has a unique soft voice. I could listen to her for hours.
I've loved her voice and intellect too since the mid 90s and she was with SOI and pro skating took off.
Jonathan and Sandra just *vibing* as artists I love it. Sandra's comments connecting the Valieva scandal to SLC were very illuminating. Fans have been screaming about the corruption in scoring for years and get gaslit by people in the sport. When is the sport going to admit there's a problem?
I was so happy to see H/D skate so well and win a medal. You have to just fall in love with their skating whenever they have a half-decent program. A few errors but I guess that's part of just going for it the way they did. They deserve to be remembered as a great team.
Dave so clearly LOOOOVES Sandra. He literally melts when she speaks. : )
Quality-wise this was the best FS event I have ever seen at any Olympics. SO many wonderful pairs showing their best when it counted. The IAM showing the complete dominance in every aspect of skating, choreography, performance, visuals... Just amazing!
My only problem with the outcome is that Chock and Bates ended up off the podium while they clearly deserved a medal. That FD is so sophisticated and well thought. It's original, it juggles with a tricky theme that could've easily driven them to kitsch, but they stayed firmly on the sophisticated side. Her hair, makeup, their costumes, the program fluidity, and their performance... just amazing!
LOVED Papadakis & Cizeron (RD is the best piece of ice dancing EVER), Hubbell & Donohue (this sport will not be the same without them... they're so unique), and I also loved Smart & Diaz (BOTH programs are superb and hope they'll stay in competition for 1 more year at least), and Howayek & Baker (oh that FD suits them like a glove -- seeing that I knew we were in for an event of our lifetime).
Sorry for this long a post! Papadakis & Cizeron rekindled my passion for figure skating. After the 2002 scandal I kind of fell off the fandom. Now, after the current scandal, I think I may stay in to follow Yuma and the IAM pairs, but I am not going to follow FS as I did for the past 7-8 years. Life is too short... I know that FS can and will survive perfectly well without me, but I guess it will be super hard to attract youngsters to dedicate their lives to such a difficult but ultimately crooked sport.
NO WAY Eteri doesnt know every single thing going in with her skaters her coaches her drs the cooks etc
Exactly she’s the leader of that…. Pack of wolves. She would never not know what’s going on.
Golden TimeStamp: 23:20 - 23:46
Dave’s face & TMZ reference as sweet Sandra proposes that maybe Eteri didn’t know about the doping. The comedic relief we deserved. I’m grateful
David's face at around the 23:38 second mark when Sandra suggests Eteri might not have known what the team doctor was administering, had me actually LOL. I have to absolutely commend David on his 'As The Blade Turns' coverage - so insightful, so interesting and so very thorough. Well done.
Omg 😂. Thx for pointing it out. It was pretty hilarious- I was proud that Dave was able to compose himself. Love you Dave! 😂😂😂😂
Agree with Sandra on Hubbell and Donahue’s RD. I think it really shows off how strong and powerful they both are and they were so in sync it just made it look really edgy and cool… helps that I love Janet Jackson! Also that move they do with that deep and low back inside edge and just going right into that knee slide that was executed perfectly.
funny how wikipedia says that they skated to hip hop. how is Janet Jackson hip hop. LMAO.
Yessss....that deep deep edge into that knee slide is one of my favorite things ever. Shows off how incredible their edges are.
I love the smart/diaz Free!!! So good!. Papadakis and Cizeron's sbs twizzle sequences? OMG it was like they were on top of one another it was so exact.
Thank you so much for inviting Sandra! This Olympic experience has been more palatable thanks to you guys and TSL. I looooved the ice dance event, even if I had to wake up at 4am to see the last two flights. I’m so happy for Gabi and Guillaume, not only did they win, but with such brilliant set of programs.
My 2 moments in for this event were also S/D and P/C. That Zorro program is going to be a guilty pleasure that I'll go back and watch over and over again. Yes it's cheesy, but I'm just such a sucker for that. For P/C, I didn't love their FD all season but for some reason in Beijing there was a sudden moment of clarity in their FD where everything clicked for me. When I need a good cry I'll be going back to the P/C FD again.
Totally agreed about the IAM skaters: each of them are presented in the best way possible drawing on all of their own unique strengths and none of them look like the other teams. That in itself is an incredible feat. Much love and respect for this school in Montreal!
“There are some things, where more isn’t more.” - Queen Sandra
Sandra is the voice of reason. A lady that is very deep in thought. Thank you for this fabulous presentation.
I can't say anything original, except leave another comment of gratitude. To you both guys. I have grown up watching Sandra's choreography. She is amazing, articulate, intelligent, funny, talented, empathetic, charming all the compliments. My moments of ice dance: Gabby and Guillaume and Maddy and Zach. I found myself glued to my TV for Maddy and Zach's FD - which grabbed and surprised me... totally agree with the way Zach was connecting with Maddy throughout that performance. Gabby and Guillaume's SD was genius, authentic and different. LOVED the FD. I found the whole event so uplifting, especially with what has been going on. Thank you again guys,
What a salve this episode has been! Thank you Dave, Jonathan and Sandra for representing the best of our sport always, but especially in the face of the harmful decision today. You’re all so needed and appreciated! ❤️
David channeling his inner Cizeron with that red top.
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For all the hate this Channel has gathered over the years, the work that you do is like no other. You spread the love for the sport, in fantastic ways, you made me a fan of the sport and I haven’t seen a snowflake ever in my life, nor set foot on ice for the matter. Thank you!
OMG Jonathan coming with the Danny G. SHAAAAAAAAADE!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA!!!! A moment of levity in such a heavy convo!
I’m so looking forward to these recaps now. I can’t stomach watching the drug cheat Olympics but I do love Sandra. TSL has been such a comfort in this debacle.
Sandra is awesome!! She's articulate; her arguments are sound; and she's so pleasing to hear. Please bring her in as often as possible, guys. And thank you for this in-depth coverage.
Love Sandra, I was hoping you guys would bring her back for one of the olympic recaps, so glad it happened!
Words don't do you guys justice. What an excellent, elevated conversation with great insights. I am so glad I found your channel, and I am proud to support it through Patreon. keep up the god work.
Thank you, D and J and the Skating Lesson. I'm not even sure how to feel, so you laying out the facts is the transparency we all need. Keep up the great work.
Appreciate that
Johnny and Tara came out today in an interview and condemned the decision to lift the suspension.
Yes
It’s about time. Maybe Johnny saw what happened to Ted and decided he better jump ship, at least publicly. Also, they realize what a farce the women’s event will be now & they have to sit there and commentate it. It will be an awkward event and not enjoyable for anyone at all (could also say something similar about their particular brand of commentary too but apparently some people actually like it…)
Wait he was saying he thinks it’s a good idea for her to compete?
@@amethyst5512 who’s Ted?
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 no, the opposite.
Dave and Johnatan, could you please tell Sandra that I will never ever forget her comments on Yuna's all four gold medal performances. I have them written on my wall. ❤Thank you, guys! I love you and TSL.
Honestly, we all needed Sandra after a day like today. ❤
Dave drinks water: "I hope there is no TMZ in there." lololol
I watched the end of the free dance with a group of people who had gathered for the super bowl because NBC switched to Olympic coverage after the game. Read: about 10 people who knew NOTHING about skating but were drunk enough to be mesmerized by people in costumes and music. It was a fun experiment.
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Fear and Gibson's Lion King was NOT a hit.
Sheer and utter confusion about dancing, skating space aliens.
Guillame's red shirt was not well received. Gold would have been better.
The favorite program of the evening was Zorro. Like, everyone was hootin' and hollerin' like Olivia and Adrian scored a touchdown.
Smart/Diaz' Zorro program was BOMB! The Olympic medallists were expected (though, ROC athletes are now suspect to me), but I enjoyed the Spanish team's Zorro FD the best!
Re fear and gibson, though I don’t think it was their best performance and I think their rhythm dance is better.
I wouldn’t be surprised that the French wouldn’t be the biggest hit with American football fans, even if they hadn’t been drunk. I personally enjoyed the subtler gold threads through red version of their costumes and was very glad they didn’t add more gold to Guillaume. I can agree however the zorro free dance is fun and they performed it really well that night!
Thank you for reporting from your interesting experiment!!
I preferred Guillaume’s copper-colored shirt he wore at one point earlier in the season.
The ageless Sandra Bezic, bringing forth wisdom and perspective 😍
Hearing of how the other women skaters are practicing - I wish their coaches will sit them down and tell them, I know it feels devastating and we don't know what the outcome at the end of the road will be, but the way they as skaters fight for their sport is to give the performance of their life, because the world is watching on this Olympic stage! Imho it is either withdraw in protest or truly show the world what figure skating should be about.
Great comment! Totally agree.... yes! Go out there and do what you do best and don't worry about anything and anyone else.
Well said.
I hope Chock + Bates continue on another 4 years. They need to be World Champions.
Thank you so much for your coverage, it makes me feel a bit better after everything that's been happening, and specially with Sandra to recap the ice dance event!
"Tork the death spiral till its dead" 😂
"Their last minute should have taken them off of the podium." Love Sandra.
Thanks all of you for covering this with compassions for the victims (clean skaters and also Kamilla) and sharp focus and words for the people responsible . Fantastic job.
Hubbell and Donahue benefitted from no audience, they didn't get over energized and really leaned into their long program (not my favorite but I thought it was the best skate of it this season). Sad to see Piper and Paul whimper out here, unfortunately the team event predicted their fate and they didn't seem to recover. Smart and Diaz, program of the season!! I hope they stick around for a bit, they could make some big moves with this momentum.
they have to stick around! i hope sara and krill stick around too. i want to see two spanish teams at worlds.
So glad that none of the shenanigans in Ice Dance could rob Papadakis and Cizeron of their gold medal.
At the dance event the performance that I would always remember would be the French pair and Spain with that peace....just wonderfull
Sandra Bezic’s comments are perfect: measured, thoughtful and utterly on point.
I have to say, C&B's free dance really grew on me over the season. Might be hard for those seeing it for the first time to fully appreciate it.
On a different note, I watched the last group with my boyfriend (who's French, so he really wanted to watch P&C). He could not understand why S&K's marks were so high, from a layman's perspective. I didn't say anything in advance as I wanted to let him form his own opinion. Halfway through their dance, he said "I must say, I really don't understand that scoring. The numbers don't seem to be matching what I'm seeing." And I totally agree with Sandra about their last minute. It's just bad.
A friend of mine who only watches figure skating during the Olympics actually told me her fav was “the alien one.” I know she’s just one person that I know of but still a pleasant surprise. P.s. I didn’t like their free all season but ended up really liking it when I watched it without commentary for the first time!
The French were breathless and I loved chock and bates . Diaz and smart really we’re impressive too
GABBIE!! 🥇GUILLAUME!! 🥇I CAN ONLY CELEBRATE TODAY!!🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇
Sandra said it best, « culture of shrugging off corruption »
Amazing!! You are getting me through this horrible-but-should-be-awesome time of The Dark Olympics.
I LOVE Sandra's point that if we want to discuss protecting Kamila, she has not been protected all this time.
You are unbelievable Dave! I just finished as the blade turns and I never expected this! How are you still alive?!
@@TheSkatingLesson Also luv your sweater 🙊
@@suetavakoli I got it as a gag for the Meagan Duhamel show. It arrived a week later than expected. I was going to tell her it was a gift from Maxim Trankov.
@@TheSkatingLesson I did a literal LOL when I saw it.
Wonderful interview with Sandra! It was a beautiful event last night and you three did a thoughtful and engaging discussion about gorgeous skating.
Sandra is telling us the NHL has more integrity than the ISU.
100%
There was a huge scandal with the Chicago Blackhawks involving the cover-up of an employee’s sexual abuse and a failure to protect a young player. Google it.
@@skatefan9495 sadly figure skating had many cases like that but they will never come to light. We will never know the full truths behind any of these sports’ organizations but at least the NHL had enough integrity to not allow the doing doctor in; I think that was Sandra’s point.
Also NHL doesn't give a f... about WADA
What a wonderful, classy lady Sandra is. Knowledge, integrity and beauty combined. It was such a comfort watching this now. Thank you guys ❤️
Watching Sandra watching Dave getting all breathy and imitating her! I love it!
Thanks for the recap!
Sandra, you don't need to be apologetic about what you think about the ending of Sinitsina/Katsalapov's program. Even Tara and Johnny (who people do not like and who also gush about Russians) said the same thing about their icky music change.
And I loved the bit of Scott's commentary I saw on twitter. He said the things we wish the general public would hear! He said he was surprised to see Davis/Smolkin in the Olympics 🤣
My favorite programs were P/C's Whacking RD and S/D's Zorro FD! I wish we'd seen Daisuke's RD here.
Russia was over scored
Always have been! Favortism at its best
@@adelinedevol2642 how on earth did S/K get 2 points less than P/C in their RD? disgusting, for that? If they got 88 p/c deserved 98. Thank GOD they didn’t get the gold
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 S/K has consistently skated the best pattern all season long.
Seeing you both with Sandra is the best thing that's happened in the last two days. Thank you!!!
I love Sandra. Her voice is so lovely to listen to when she’s commentating. ❤️
I think this may be a sort or natural outcome when the focus of winning in competition becomes extreme. For the most part I really lost interest in singles figure skating years ago because what I really loved about figure skating, which is that it is such a beautiful display of FLOW, became less and less as the focus on jumping became more and more extreme.
Jason still has that beauty, flow, choreo, and everything especially when he skates clean. And his interactions with Tracy are 🤩
I wonder if the IOC will raise the age for participation in the Olympics to above 16 after this. Basically this can easily happen again if they don't.
I completely agree with you.
Thank you for having Sandra on. I’ve missed her choreography, shows and commentary so much!
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Great discussion with Sandra Bezic. What a treasure she is. I'd like to see a follow up video showing the highlights of what she brought up with you both as you are talking.
"shrugging at corruption." Very astute analysis from Sandra which just goes to show how difficult it is to eradicate corruption, not only in Sports but across the broad expanse of society. It definitely is a reflection of society's morals, not just in Olympic sport but in all things. What are we left with except speculation when all controlling bodies are also corrupted and do not do what they are supposed to. Everyone likes to debate philosophically, the relevancy of the word "truth", to the point that nothing applies and there is no sense. And then it's Rafferty's Rules where anything goes. I personally have given up these last years on devotedly following the Olympics, Winter and Summer. Destroyed faith in public figures as with world bodies covering eg., health policy and science, must be displayed in the public's response to following the sport and displays of mistrust.
Great discussion.
I want to come back in my next life as Guillauime's Red shirt and Adrian Diaz' black pants! Swoon!!!
So great to see Sandra. Made me realize how much I miss her! Thank you!
Spending Valentine’s with David and Jonathan is a treat. Thanks boys xoxo
Sandra!! The calming voice of reason we adore.
So happy for the French team to finally get their gold, I've thought for a while they're the best to have done it. I agree the last minute of Sinitsina/Katsalapov was pretty atrociously choreographed but I didn't think the Chock/Bates was that well choreographed so I didn't feel like they would land in 4th. In order for the Chock/Bates program to have worked, she needed to be far colder and less expressive than he was since she was the space character and he was the human and that's never been the case for those two.
Omg S/K choreography at the end was horrible. My sister actually laughed at them and made me rewind so she can watch it again and laugh. They aren’t actually that bad, especially her she’s a great skater but that Choreography ruined it, also, nikitas twizzles… god
The story is about two completely different species finding common ground, and… love. I think they performed that perfectly.
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Also their presentation sucked cheap looking outfits and boring hair on her part. There rhythm dance music suck and though nice their free dance music was expected. I too also thought that the last minute was so Riverdance.
@@MrChaseBlue In principle yes, but from her costume and hair/makeup it is clear they were going for a space theme.
Who said aliens have to be cold. Maybe they are warm and loving. It was a love story.
Sandra, the other dance team with the overhead lift was the Canadians Laurence and Sorensens gladiator program.
OMG I agree with Sandra, everything the ROC did was probably staged and calculated to increase sympathy for KV, just as she is being portrayed as an angel in Russian media. I feel for her, I truly do, but everything that's happened is just so wrong.
Thank you so much for all your effort, this is the only channel that has consistently given us a detailed coverage of the issue.
I 100% agree with what she said about shrugging off corruption. One of the big things I was thinking while watching Meddling was, "why were they just ignoring the bloc judging???" The French judge wouldn't have mattered if we didn't have that, and everyone just accepted that as status quo.
This was brilliant. Sandra is such an important voice in figure skating. Great as always, Dave and Jonathan!
Thank you for this Dave and Jonathan. As a long time figure skating fan, the decision to allow Valieva to skate was a huge blow to clean sport and I just feel gutted. It was so refreshing to hear Sandra’s take on the recent events.
While I heavily considered not watching the Women’s SP earlier today, I ended up watching and not sure why I bothered since I was left feeling angry on how it played out.
At least we have Kaori and Wakaba!
Sandra is such a national treasure. And yes I realize she’s Canadian. But she’s still “ours”. LOL.
❤️❤️
49:39 the lift sandra is talking about is guignard/fabri’s RD lift. it’s one of my favorites too.
I think the CanaDanes
@@JohnnyOpera1 you're right.
Eteri will positively throw the dr under the bus and say she knew nothing.
Wonderful recap- lovely to have Sandra's take on the event.
I thought Zach and Madi had the silver in the bag and the fight for the bronze was between Vicky and Nicky and Evan and Madi.
Very enjoyable around.
Nah. Those Russians were always going to be spoiler for Zach and Madi.
I think that the other over-the-head lift that Sandra is talking about is one that Laurence and Nik do in their free skate. It's a straight line lift where he's holding her over his head horizontally.
I loved Chock & Bates' free!!!
And why was Eteri perched like a slug on a cave roof, above the Kiss and Cry during the Dance. Too convenient to be coincidental. We are living full-participation theatre of the absurd. And we are actively it happen, by talking about it, but not acting on it. Someone has to be heroic here. You will have millions behind you.
“Perched like a slug on a cave roof” 💀💀💀
Maybe she was trying to figure out how others achieve greatness without drugs. After all she probably does not want her daughter to take cardiac drugs.
Maybe for her daughter Diana Davis
Sandra bezic is an honest woman ..... and we all need more honest people in our lives!
Sandra!!! Oh, Dave and Jonathan, you are always my Valentines, but especially now.
Sandra raised the question if it is a better choice to take Kamala home in this situation? My question is better for whom? Definitely not for Kamala. For her own future psychological well-being the best thing will be go on ice and skate like no one else in the history of figure skating! It will give her the feeling of self-consistency for the rest of her life, and not a complex of victim! By leaving this competition now, she will agree with all unfairness and cruel emotional abuse that you guys put on her! She is a talent, and it has nothing to do with drugs. Drugs cannot provide the elegance, the flexibility, the musicality, and the artistry that she possesses. And second thing! You were talking to take off Russia from the world figure skating and Olympics at all! Really? Who will lose from it? The whole world, because Russian figure skating is the best what this sport has. Would you argue to this, Dave?
Well said.
It’s not fair to the other athletes. And one of the reasons Russian skaters are some of the best in the world is because of the state-sponsored doping program that was implemented after Russia did poorly at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver.
He would not. His coach is Russian.
Her accuracy is just fantastic
lol i don't think i could have more different taste from sandra if i tried. side note-i know yall normally do these types of discussions/interviews during the olympics, but i also love hearing your opinions! yall just always feel a little restrained/accommodating when you have guests on and i know yall are busy but i'd like to hear more of your opinions on these events/teams
The H/D's RD improved a loooot since the begging of the season. I watched them performing this since skate america and it just didn't catch me till this Olympic performance and it was HUGE!
I don’t think shrugging at corruption is human nature at all, any more than sociopathy is human nature. Agree with everything else though. Also, Sandra’s choreography is partly what made me fall in love with skating three decades ago. Thanks guys for bringing her insight to us in this sad moment in skating.
What a gorgeous person! Eteri anti-matter from Canada. Now SHE’s someone you would want to coach you child.