Thanks for reviewing the motor! Glad you like it as much as we do! I spent over a year engineering the stator and rotor combo to make it smooth, powerful, and efficient at all speeds.
Its an excellent motor for sure and I'm not done with the videos with it, I also have one with it in the Redcat Gen8 and have plans for a lot more as time allows
5:08 is a perfect shot of smooth crawling into tons of wheelspeed! That's what I strive for with design, keeping extremely smooth low speed control with crazy wheelspeed on tap if wanted. The lower KVs drive even smoother.
HolmesHobbies how’s the drag break work on this with the right ESC. Wanting to try out some brushless. Have a ton of RC crawlers and only on brushless motor and that came in my RYR Axe Edition. Gonnna go with your product just not to sure of what I’m needing. My trucks weigh a ton do to the fact I don’t let them go unupgraded if that’s even a word lol
Great video once again! And thank you for not adding stupid music to it. I wanted to hear for cog, in this case there lack of. Good job to you and Holmes!
I was just complaining to Holmes last night on a Facebook question he asked. About the lack of decent videos highlighting his Motors without crappy music or run through some kind of gearbox.
Thinking of trying this set up in my TRX4 1979 ford bronco appreciate you sharing, what a awesome spot you have to go crawling for sure i'll be watching for more
So...John redesigned the XL. I had a 1st-gen XL(with the 5mm shaft) and it was insanely powerful but it had crappy start-up and the shaft was REALLY hard to turn by hand. It wasn't a rock crawler motor....it was for rock racing....it said also said so in the description of the motor on the website. If you took the a Rock 412 , Castle and a Puller Pro of the same size apart...you'd find the rotor/magnet inside the Holmes motor to be bigger. John fits a bigger/stronger rotor the way they are designed...and just better overall/quality parts. Oh...you need to turn-up your drag-brake. lol
It absolutely IS! I haven't been able to get anything for awhile, obviously... But I have a 4 year old, HH TorqueMaster 30 Turn Handwound.... I've put new Brushes in it twice, and it hasn't needed ANYTHING else!!
good way to identify if its not on the box or on the can, if it is an L or XL, nearly identical in size to a 550. Might be easy to turn with no power, but when the fields get electric in them.. omg. I do find the HH motors to have a noticeable increase of torque and smooooth. Even the 540L 4100kv that is supposed to be a rock racer motor on sensored its still not too bad at low speed, much better than the cogging I get out of the Velineon's.
I didn't know that it would look similar to a HW when I redesigned the can. Totally different motors though, just look similar now. Boo to that, but I think it looks sweet anyway.
Since Ive been in the hobby I've been leaning towards HH all his motors are affordable and explained so well. Ya cant beat it. I noticed the KV was pretty high you you recommend turning it down some? The link has it at 2100 KV. Any help would be nice thx for this video it displayed the Puller beautifully. This will be my first brushless set up as well.👍👍👍👍☠🤘🎃🎃
Well I would be surprised if it was sensored and it cogged? The whole idea of sensored systems is TO eliminate cogging. But sure I guess, Its awesome that it does not cog.
You’re hearing the PWM of the castle esc. The motor can be as quiet as anything if I could turn up the PWM but it can’t be done on the castle esc. It sounds worse in video than it does in person or with a group of guys.
@@ExocagedRC sure would be nice, if memory serves me correctly believe I can even adjust the PWM on my Hw 1080 w/ the program card.. come on already Castle !!! lol
I have a 10.6 lb Gen 8 would you recommend this Puller Pro 3500kv size motor or a different kv? I get confused with the KV's between brushed & brushless? also what size Pinion do you think would work best, I believe the Scout ii has a 17T currently? Thanks so much
If I’m running a mamba X esc what HH motor would you say will work best with it? I’m looking to do slow crawling, don’t need much speed. I’ll also be running 3s. Thanks !
Nice video...just want to ask if this motor compatible to rr10 bomber? Planning to get HW quickrun 1080 wp any brushed motor with good low speed and smooth crawling you can advice for me? Thanks...
This motor is brushless and for a bomber I’d highly recommend this motor with castle mamba x esc. If you must stay brushed the the 1080 and a Holmes 21t Trailmaster Sport 550 would be my choice
Was it smoother then the train I have both takin the new water proof one and Holmes pp and it’s a really close call and the tekin is the 3100 kv and pp is 3500kv love both was just wondering your thoughts on the comparison great video as always keep em commig
I have a question about the pan hard bar set up on the front vs 4 link on the rear. Do you think there would be a downside to running 4 link on the front and have it set up just like the rear on your truck? I am currently designing a new lower plate that would let me run 4 link front and rear but I am going to have to basically re design the entire front end of my TRX-4 to do so and was wondering if you had any advise or ideas that would assist?
TBone I prefer the 4-link front and servo on Axle. You should see my Grimlock 3 build series where I put a 4-link front and servo on axle using 1tenth RC servo mounts. It’s PT3 of the build.
Thanks for reviewing the motor! Glad you like it as much as we do! I spent over a year engineering the stator and rotor combo to make it smooth, powerful, and efficient at all speeds.
Its an excellent motor for sure and I'm not done with the videos with it, I also have one with it in the Redcat Gen8 and have plans for a lot more as time allows
5:08 is a perfect shot of smooth crawling into tons of wheelspeed! That's what I strive for with design, keeping extremely smooth low speed control with crazy wheelspeed on tap if wanted. The lower KVs drive even smoother.
Dude I love your products and your attitude. I promote your motors and ESC's everywhere I go.
HolmesHobbies how’s the drag break work on this with the right ESC. Wanting to try out some brushless. Have a ton of RC crawlers and only on brushless motor and that came in my RYR Axe Edition. Gonnna go with your product just not to sure of what I’m needing. My trucks weigh a ton do to the fact I don’t let them go unupgraded if that’s even a word lol
Your intro music is killer I'm subscribing on the strength of that alone
Great video once again! And thank you for not adding stupid music to it. I wanted to hear for cog, in this case there lack of. Good job to you and Holmes!
I'm the same way, let me hear the squeaks and rattles lol
Same here!! No music just wanna here the truck/motor work 😋
I was just complaining to Holmes last night on a Facebook question he asked. About the lack of decent videos highlighting his Motors without crappy music or run through some kind of gearbox.
Thinking of trying this set up in my TRX4 1979 ford bronco appreciate you sharing, what a awesome spot you have to go crawling for sure i'll be watching for more
This is the best place I ever seen to run a r c. That was awesome
Fixing to put one on my scx10.2 as soon as my mamba x gets here. Greg vid.
Awesome video, great look at the Holmes motors performance ! 👍👍
Awesome video another great motor and excellent place to run
Definitely looks like it's got plenty of power
So...John redesigned the XL. I had a 1st-gen XL(with the 5mm shaft) and it was insanely powerful but it had crappy start-up and the shaft was REALLY hard to turn by hand. It wasn't a rock crawler motor....it was for rock racing....it said also said so in the description of the motor on the website.
If you took the a Rock 412 , Castle and a Puller Pro of the same size apart...you'd find the rotor/magnet inside the Holmes motor to be bigger. John fits a bigger/stronger rotor the way they are designed...and just better overall/quality parts.
Oh...you need to turn-up your drag-brake. lol
pretty sure the drag brake was at 100 on this test, yeah I like the 1/8 shaft for gearing options
Nice run love the truck ,looks like it does well ,xish I had some terrain like that here👍
Love,,, Holmes hobbies products good stuff
It absolutely IS! I haven't been able to get anything for awhile, obviously... But I have a 4 year old, HH TorqueMaster 30 Turn Handwound.... I've put new Brushes in it twice, and it hasn't needed ANYTHING else!!
To me their motors are special they have a custom feel.
good way to identify if its not on the box or on the can, if it is an L or XL, nearly identical in size to a 550.
Might be easy to turn with no power, but when the fields get electric in them.. omg. I do find the HH motors to have a noticeable increase of torque and smooooth. Even the 540L 4100kv that is supposed to be a rock racer motor on sensored its still not too bad at low speed, much better than the cogging I get out of the Velineon's.
yeah I really like the motor
Man I wish I had motors to test! Great video though man. I am a big Holmes Hobbies fan. Saving for one right now.
Great info and running footage 👍
I'm gonna try this motor in my ryft..
looks like a Hobbywing motor with bigger bearings..Very nice!
I thought so as well but it drives way better than any Hobbywing motor I’ve run in a scaler.
@@ExocagedRC I've never run a brushless scaler so I wouldn't know but Holmes Hobbies knows their stuff for sure
I didn't know that it would look similar to a HW when I redesigned the can. Totally different motors though, just look similar now. Boo to that, but I think it looks sweet anyway.
@@HolmesHobbies Nothing wrong with the hobbywing look IMO
Nice Truuuck! I knew that the Motor would be great.
Great review!
Thanks joe
Id like to see you put this in the Gen8 with the MombaX..
Since Ive been in the hobby I've been leaning towards HH all his motors are affordable and explained so well. Ya cant beat it. I noticed the KV was pretty high you you recommend turning it down some? The link has it at 2100 KV. Any help would be nice thx for this video it displayed the Puller beautifully. This will be my first brushless set up as well.👍👍👍👍☠🤘🎃🎃
I just ordered the 3500 puller. Should I upgrade my gears? I’m running stock gears at the moment.
sweet truck!
No cogging that's awesome
Well it is sensored…
@@skirmich thanks man like I didn't know that. can't I give a guy a complement?
Well I would be surprised if it was sensored and it cogged? The whole idea of sensored systems is TO eliminate cogging. But sure I guess, Its awesome that it does not cog.
whys it so loud, I thought the revolver was the loud motor & am I confusing the 2 ? Thnx
You’re hearing the PWM of the castle esc. The motor can be as quiet as anything if I could turn up the PWM but it can’t be done on the castle esc. It sounds worse in video than it does in person or with a group of guys.
@@ExocagedRC Oh ok that makes sense, I thought it was the motor wining. Im shocked castle doesn't make a fix for that.. Thanks
HKGuy #1 I’ve asked them several times to let us adjust the PWM on their ESC’s
@@ExocagedRC sure would be nice, if memory serves me correctly believe I can even adjust the PWM on my Hw 1080 w/ the program card.. come on already Castle !!! lol
How have your temps been? My JJ 3500kv is running at 160+f?
I have a 10.6 lb Gen 8 would you recommend this Puller Pro 3500kv size motor or a different kv? I get confused with the KV's between brushed & brushless? also what size Pinion do you think would work best, I believe the Scout ii has a 17T currently? Thanks so much
yeah the redcat has a lot of reduction, you can run this motor and a 12t pinion and be fine for most anything
I think most would agree HH are good. But how did it feel from the controller compared to the motor that was in the truck before?
it felt better down low, about same overall power but had a bit more top end
Awesome thanks
Exocaged RC would u suggest a lower kv like 1800 or 2100??
depends on the speed you want, I like a higher KV so I can run a smaller pinion for better brakes and low end resolution resulting in better control.
If I’m running a mamba X esc what HH motor would you say will work best with it? I’m looking to do slow crawling, don’t need much speed. I’ll also be running 3s. Thanks !
Nice video...just want to ask if this motor compatible to rr10 bomber? Planning to get HW quickrun 1080 wp any brushed motor with good low speed and smooth crawling you can advice for me? Thanks...
This motor is brushless and for a bomber I’d highly recommend this motor with castle mamba x esc. If you must stay brushed the the 1080 and a Holmes 21t Trailmaster Sport 550 would be my choice
@@ExocagedRC great! Thanks bro..appreciate it:)
did you say 11T pinion, how much does the grimlock weigh? Thanks
Could I run this on a Vxl-3s on 2s??
Sure
Smooth. Are the Holmes for crawling only?
crawling is his thing but he has bashing motors as well as a 1/8 scale racing motor
Was it smoother then the train I have both takin the new water proof one and Holmes pp and it’s a really close call and the tekin is the 3100 kv and pp is 3500kv love both was just wondering your thoughts on the comparison great video as always keep em commig
you know it may be a touch smoother down low, the top end felt the same between both of them.
Yeah both great motors
nice
I have a question about the pan hard bar set up on the front vs 4 link on the rear. Do you think there would be a downside to running 4 link on the front and have it set up just like the rear on your truck? I am currently designing a new lower plate that would let me run 4 link front and rear but I am going to have to basically re design the entire front end of my TRX-4 to do so and was wondering if you had any advise or ideas that would assist?
TBone I prefer the 4-link front and servo on Axle. You should see my Grimlock 3 build series where I put a 4-link front and servo on axle using 1tenth RC servo mounts. It’s PT3 of the build.
Will do. Ive been looking through your videos and did not see it. Thank you.
TBone this one czcams.com/video/a-gphiz6kDc/video.html
Lack of drag brake at 3:50 ?
Might I ask what gearing you are using??
How was the drag brake?
felt a bit stronger than some others
Is that engine legal to use in ROAR races? :-)
Are you running sensored ?
Yep
Doesn't look like the XL bro
I think you're right, I don't see an XL on the box.
@@ExocagedRC doesn't say it on the motor, either. I have the 540xl and it's written on the can/box
My XL has a 5mm shaft too. Definitely not an XL. Still a great video!
I thought the motor case spins on these Holmes motors...???
Just the Revolver outrunner motors. They're like an airplane motor. Torque for days and super smooth sensorless startup.