I think for IxxPs, it's more of, when they like or are interested in something, they'll consume as much as conditions allow, meaning they'll only consume what they like and they'll keep on taking in any information about it until they don't like it anymore, or by themselves decide to stop. While ExxPs are open to any type of information to consume, but it only registers to memory or for utility when it resonates with their "Fi values/truth or Ti logic/truth".
CZcams Veterinarian It’s the format of reading, not the act of consuming. Of course I have considered it, but I do so much CS-ing and so little BP-ing, I have a hard time believing I’ve consume as a demon. Reading is just the one type of consuming which is hard for me, because I, like Bill, set rules of reading and comprehension to myself. I prefer to take in information through other formats; visually, through audio etc.
CZcams Veterinarian indeed. Otherwise I’d never have typed myself as having Oe savior:). I will say, however, that my friend who has consume 3rd or 4th also claims to “love lots of new information”, so perhaps it isn’t the most accurate thing to type based on. She does enjoy new information, yet she prefers to go to her previously stored information first. So no, I’m not certain that I’m consume savior, but I do think it seem most reasonable.
CZcams Veterinarian I think my friend might be quite similar to you, and that’s why she claims to love new information (because it is on her own terms). Could this be consume 3rd? For me, often I consume something out of simple curiosity. It doesn’t need to be within a subject I know and love, or have any use in studying. It just needs to catch my attention and offer me NEW information. After I’ve gathered it, I’ll take my time to process it. So essentially I tend to discover something new, learn about it, process and practice it, and then put it to side when something else new and exciting pops up. Rinse and repeat 😂
CZcams Veterinarian Ohh I think I see where the disconnect is. I think you misunderstood my original comment a bit. It’s not that I don’t want to read new stuff. I want to gain the new knowledge, but the format of reading demands a lot more of me than other formats. As Bill said, with reading especially you have to actively make sure you’re paying attention and comprehending. When reading one is in charge of placing emphasis the right places in order to understand the text the way it was meant to be understood. Essentially when I read, I feel responsible to take my time to scrutinize the text and fully comprehend and internalize it. It becomes a long process, and other formats make the process much easier, so I rarely pick up books. I should also mention that with books, the authors structure the text in a certain way for a reason. So basically I hold my self accountable for full comprehension all the way through the book, and if I stop actively paying attention at some point, I won’t get the full experience. It’s a bit hard to explain actually 😂 Saying I don’t want to read *new* stuff is misleading, because regardless of whether it’s new or old information, reading can be straining, as I have more responsibilities than I would if I only had to listen and comprehend. I hope this clears it up a bit :)
this is so true for me as an INFP. it’s the reason i had so much trouble in college. I HAD feel like I was actually learning from each of my classes. I could never spead read my homework and if i wasn’t concentrating or didn’t have a lot of time, I would put off the task. I am a total perfectionist because I want to really understand and need. alot of time to evaluate info from my Fi viewpoint.
I'm an INFP too. It was really difficult for me to finish the liberal arts reading assignments during college, because after every paragraph I had to stop and emotionally deal with what I just read, or have flashbacks about where I have seen the concept take action in the past, or perhaps even go to the internet on a tangent to explore and fully understand the new concept I had just read. I was literally getting upset over how my mom raised me when I had to read "The Second Sex". Everything hits me personally. Meanwhile the essay is due tomorrow....
Alex Maximus I think they meant when ever they read they want to grasp every single point and not skip over anything, like when you speed read you miss a lot of the information from the book
Ohh My God, This is totally why I dropped out.. If I can`t be the best, I better not do it.. And also, I feel.so.guilty to pass with a B because I know I don`t know.enough so I feel like a fraude.. Takes a bit of effort to pass through that and keep going..
These videos are golden. I unsubscribed and don’t listen to any other typology channel, even the ones I used to like. None of the others break it down like you guys. When you take MBTI + Functions + Masculine & Feminine + Sleep & Play + Blast & Consume like you all do it you really get the full picture.
Also Nathan Glass (Love Who), it's high-quality entertainment. Once you've figured the technical stuff out, you (or at least I) get bored, and all that's left of value in mbti YT videos is the entertainingness.
Julia Hagen Ne likes to gather concepts and ideas, and then “passes them” down to Fi. Fi is concerned with how we ourselves feel about it, does it align with our moral understanding, our sense of authenticity, our emotional selves. Does that make sense? So if you have Ne/Fi consume, you’re out there creating/gathering/digging through abstractions & ideas and then cross checking with how they make you feel.
Alexander Hall thank you! :) it seemed so reverse to me for gathered concepts to have to be in line with personal morals/values, so I had a hard time comprehending it. So thank you for you explanation!
The Great G-man The Guy I don’t know about you, but I’m just here to be entertained by Dave and Shan’s ideas. I probably am using Si unconsciously in some way or if you count me screenshotting a chart for future reference. XD
Well, this cleared many things up further. Confirming I am not an Exxp. I can be laxed about gathering, but mainly, I go to the same stores, roads, places. To enjoy my expected experiences.
This video was great for me in understanding consume (more so for Ti since Bill Gates (a very clear explainer) was set as an example). It would be helpful to have more of this example type for S, P and B.
Gates is a fascinating contrast with me. There's a huge difference between Consume with Sleep 2nd and Consume with Sleep 4th. The ratio of books I have begun to books I have finished is like 20 to 1. Actually, I very recently developed a habit of note-taking while reading, and it's a dramatically different experience. I'm frustrated at the time with how much more slowly I move through the book, but afterwards I find it far easier to *recall and apply* that information. The work of "translating" the Ne stuff into Si instances that can be referenced in the future is very difficult, but incredibly rewarding. Just thought you'd enjoy the example of what developing Sleep can do.
lol!! Everytime I had to read a book for class and didn't agree with it, it would stay on the shelf for weeks. Sometimes, I'd not even bother finishing it despite getting a bad grade for a book report lool!
lol I have not thought about this very much before, but I'm pretty sure I'm Consume first (ISFP), and my husband (ISTJ) is low consume. I'm always googling stuff and reading stacks of books, magazines, articles etc...my husband makes fun of me that I start the day off already googling stuff, watching videos at breakfast. It just comes naturally to me, but I can see how it would be exhausting to someone with low consume.
When I get something new I excitedly get out the instructions and devour them. I’ll turn the box around and around and read every side. When my husband gets something new, he opens the box, gets out the instructions, and throws them away.
These animal videos are fascinating but equal parts useful and confusing. I have felt sure over and over that I have got to have Blast and Play at the top (especially because I wish I didn't have them first), but there are some pieces of what you describe in Consume that seem to rule me. However, the whole Consume bit could be explained by my childhood. I never liked to have to go through every bit of information (or read a book all the way through), but I learned to (try to) do it with some things, and books are a bit of a rule to me that I want to finish every book I start. I have this *feeling* hovering over me if I don't finish a book. It's an unfinished Project. I can't leave anything unfinished!
Interesting, I've always thought Seth McFarlane is an ENTP. I'm going to have to go back and look at some of his old interviews. Great video as always, guys!
I thought I was an INFJ for around 5 years... Now I see a lot of similarities between me and Bill Gates (the fact that I have to be researching or learning something new nearly every day from a new book or course to solve important problems, taking notes and structuring all my notes into a guide with a highly structured, logical flow). Also, I watched the Info Vs Energy Dominant video and thought Mike Chang seemed ridiculously illogical to me. I am really really starting to see myself as either a highly introverted ENFP or ENTP.
I've think I've got consume 1st. But sometimes when I'm working on a design or I'm going to go somewhere new, I consciously limit my research. In the former, too much info can stifle my creativity and imagination, or when travelling, limit my sense of adventure and awe. Do not over consume.
Would it be safe to say that demon consume would be like, only mass study when you are invested into a topic and/or have something to gain from studying to use for something?
That feeling when your brain drags you down the road of finishing that whole book or that whole 30-minute article and won’t let you stop. This Bill Gates clip reminded me why I dropped reading books. It’s the OBLIGATION to finish the whole. Damn. Thing. Starting up again another time is too expensive. It’s like I’m a slave, and I only have one conscious choice at the beginning to stop before I start, otherwise I get swept under into unconscious consumption. This video triggered my fear response, because OPS predicts this tendency in lead-Consumes which means I’m (1) predictable, and (2) not unique. That’s a huge threat to my sense of Ne-freedom and Fi-significance. Damn it.
Huh, my ex-partner was consume last and has never read a book in his life (Te/Si). I'm consume first (Fi/Ne) and love books and any information really.
What's the difference between consuming and learning, let's say by reading. I've gotten the impression that they are pretty much the same thing so logically it would mean that as Ni/Te It is impossible for me to learn new concepts or to analyze them, which SEEMS to ME(as a human who like all humans can't see him-/herself) very odd, because I don't really recall not being able to do that. For example now I(assume) consumed the info you gave me and analyzed it which shouldn't be possible if my type of consume is Se-Fi. What did I miss?
i’d like an answer to thus as well. i’m Pi/Fe or Pi/Ti but i don’t hate reading. taking in information, being disturbed by information or by people blasting information which i don’t know could be unnecessary or not - it’s super annoying to me. but reading and learning for pleasure, select times, is definitely not.
I wonder if people tend to consume according to type even if it's not their first animal. For example, my consume is second and SF. So do i take in information like Kim K, or does it not work that way at all? Because if i had to guess, I'd say that i even consume in a more intuitive way but then again that could just be my lack of perspective/good comparisons.
Well, if I understood it right, and I think I did, if your consume is SF, you tend to consume sensorial facts that you like, it doesn't matter if you consume first, second or whatever. Maybe you think you consume intuitively because when you're consuming, you often stop to do your first animal. For instance, I'm Si/Ti SC/B(P), so my consume is Ti/Ne, but often when I'm reading or wachting a video or something like that, I take a time to reflect about what I'm consuming and organize all the details and factual information (sleep SiTi).
I’m not sure where consume is in my animal stack, but I can relate to the pressure that Gates puts on himself when it comes to processing new information. Just coming in slow af.
I'm a theoretically entj and I love meeting new people because they are an endless source of new information. I find them fascinating. Would that suggest a lead consume?
I am the consume 'crack addict', constantly trying to accumulate new information which is interesting to me and in school I didn't take subjects that contained premises I didn't agree with, or I would just get bored reading the same thing over. When doing assignments or papers I would get stuck in the research phase and not manage to organise and consolidate it half of the time into a complete assignment or paper even though I spent hours and hours on it. Which of these am I? (I think it's preventing me from getting a degree.)
I think what he meant by that is the standards a Fi or Ti user puts on themselves to have integrity towards the consistency with either their values or logic.
I would love for you guys to try typing some well known preachers. Eg Andy Stanley or Brian Houston. This video makes me see that Consume is pretty high up there, but it feels like Blast is also high up there for me? The more videos of yours I watch the less I feel confident about my type.
Alright, now for the million dollar question, is there a correlation to who we are attracted to; especially when they have the opposite to our double masculine or feminine animals? I couldn't help but notice that both you and Shan have double feminine animals as your second but they're both the inverse of each other. Shan has Dave's inverse of double masculine consume as double feminine as her second animal and Dave has the inverse of her double masculine blast.
I think the type of information being consumed is this clear only if Consume is the first animal. Otherwise, I think it would be much more complex. If you were a SC type of Ni-dom, for example.
What about a person who consumes to blast and blasts to consume? Also how do we account for the impact of neurodivergence? For example I have both ADHD and Autism but I frequently type as INFP and personally agree with this identity (though not every stereotype around it) That being said I am also studying for a degree in philosophy and often find the majority of my time is spent exploring thoughts and ideas and seeking out new information to try and come to new understandings and build the best most consistent worldview I can and once I get a piece to fit the puzzle it sparks new inspiration for new questions to explore that couldn’t even be understood before. I also in my approach whenever I can love to engage others in philosophical discussions to understand differing viewpoints and test my hypotheses against their reasoning, it’s pretty easy to convince my logic but not nearly as easy to sway my values which is why I don’t think im INTP, but I just happen to value logical thinking in general. Anyways I end up blasting my theories at others but in turn really intently take the time to soak in the responses and different perspectives I get and really think them over and try to understand them on a deep level. I always kinda assumed a lot of this was explained by my ADHD/Autism traits with special interests drawing in my attention and info-dumping on those interests to others and then being specially attentive to what they have to say. Adhd makes my interests widely varied and outspoken and Autism makes me deep dive into them and hyperfixate. But idk how that affects tthe functions. I posed a similar question to Harry on his channel “Cognitive Personality Theory” which I also find very insightful for how things work behind the scenes of the functions and see it as a complementary theory to this one. Honestly I would love to see a between your two channels with your scientific approaches to personality discussed and explored in depth, and honestly research into how neurodivergency impacts personality would be amazing! Thank you for your thoughtful insights!
Roughly speaking, IP consume will have an easier time comparing the Consumed info to known info, like Bill demonstrates. EP consume will have an easier time weighing the consumed info between the Self/Tribe and Valuation/Reasoning, like Jordan Peterson demonstrates very well
Can Consume come to an end? I thought I was INTP with Consume saviour, but I have only read a few books to the end. Now I don't even read anymore. After decades of noodling, I figured out my own philosophy and wrote a book, so now I can't stand reading other people's dumb opinions. These days, my Consume comes out in watching CZcams videos and Netflix. But I'm getting bored with that too. I’m more interested in creativity and spirituality now, and even travel.
Of course an INTJ would think ESFP's are the dumbest ones. But a professional like you (Dave) has no right to express it in those blunt terms. Especially someone who has a deep understanding of types and human nature. As an INTP, I think ESFP (and especially Kim ^^) are awesome people, that we need in our life, and they are very fun and enthousiastic about ideas and theories. So don't say they're dumb because they don't work the way you work. I personnaly feel that INTJ's are sometimes the smartest self-defeating people, but do I have to say it out loud, and at their face? No, unless they are being obnoxious and need some feedback to get back on track. Cheers, and thanks for all the work btw.
Sadly, I agree with him, but that's what happens when your Fi comes in. Yeah, you get that those people can be useful to the tribe in some way, but to you, that part doesn't matter too much.
Edouard Writer They said the dumbest Consume not the type or the person. He tell that because of this kind of consume + he knows it is his consume demon so he just react like fuck that shit it’s my demon. Gamma Quadra has this type of consume.
@@LemonMeIon It's not that, really. So Dave and Shan typed me MF Ti/Se CS/B(P) -- my partner and I narrowed down my dad to MF Te/Ni BS/C(P). My dad and I have the same interests by and large, we just approach them differently straight up because of our type differences. Getting my dad to Consume so that we can be on the same page when we talk is a serious pain in the ass.
@CZcams Veterinarian You sign up for their class for a minimum of 2 months at $19/month then pay $119 to get typed. You then record a video of yourself answering an almost annoyingly short questionnaire for 1 hour.
@CZcams Veterinarian It's 6 questions. It's meant to be tricky to make it go for an hour. And yes. I had myself typed as MF Ti/Ne CS/B(P). After I watched my own video, before I got the results, I realized it was Se and not Ne.
How does consume work for J types? Will an ENTJ, for example, be Se > Fi, Se > Ti, or Ne > Ti ? Thought about it and my assumption is that it depends on the situation. Tuning into his ESFP subconscious it will be Se > Fi. When tuning into INTP unconscious Ne > Ti Can anyone share their thoughts about this? Thanks!
ENTJ is Te-Ni-Se-Fi, so it would be like a baby ESFP consume - taking in easy surface-level information (Se), and internalizing what they like (Fi) - all so reluctantly because their preferred animal in action (in contrast) would be either blast or play.
If they are Ni dominant, it will be connected to their goal. So basically if they come to the conclusion that for their dream job they will need to know XYZ, they will search the internet and/or read books. While they're doing this, they are also judging each knew information, trying to decide if it's worth to remember or not, because as consume last, they want to take in THE LEAST amount of info. For Si dominants, it's connected to their system. The Si trusts the process. This means "doing this will make my life better". For example they might come to the conclusion that reading in a second language will help their brain develop better. This might not be connected to any kind of specific goal, although it will generally come in handy in some situations. This will push them to read. The Si logic is: if I do things a certain way and live my life doing certain things, I will be equipped with the right skills and knowledge to do anything I decide.
A funny story about "The New" I needed medicine for my allergies, and also some for my mom's diabetes. I was getting ready to leave the house and go to a drug store. My brother came in, said "There's this new site, they have a discount for new client, 500 rubles, for the first order. You can order there, they deliver the same day" What did my ass do? I got irritated, uncomfortable and said "No, I will do it the old way, and I will go and buy my medicine where I usually buy it", and I left the house.
My greatest struggle in life is learning how to do things differently. Especially, when it took me time and effort to learn how to do them the way I do them in the first place.
What if you consume a lot on CZcams but you read and study not often. I have to force myself for the things I don’t want to but once I go read, 70% of the time I like it and want more 30% of the time (30 of the 70). Even if when I was young I read a lot of fantasy books. It’s like I want one kind of method/format for the consume. After that I gather lots of news about like 6 différents topics on that format more specifically. I think I am consume second and I think I have the dumbest consume (Se Fi) haha.
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin I still consume all day about the things I like. I think I am SC so my organise/processing/consume happen fast and automatic/default. But I have a hard time communicating it. I never talk about my consume which is against blast savior. If you tell me if I respect it hummm difficult to say because I don’t like consuming every type of things (my Fi I would say).
Are you watching CZcams because you want to learn stuff. Or are you watching it because its entertaining? You can say "I DO BOTH". But which one is more important to you?
@@lexih7653 I would say entertaining come first. But learning is still entertainment in some level. I am still young (19) but I have 6 major interests in my consume. 1. Music 2. Movies 3. Personality theories 4. Business/trading 5. Video games 6. Human science topics (Psychology/philosophy 3/4 of times on podcast). All that on youtube and movies on my tv/Ipad. I am trying to split my consume in other format like reading some stuff (6.) instead of videos. I consume maybe 5 hours per days when I dont work and maybe 3 hours when I dont have a big day at school (even if my schedule is only like 17 hours a week this semester). 1. 3. happens naturally, 5. 6. when something get my attention, 2. for fun, 4. because I want to learn. I start consuming a lot 3 years ago, before that I just consume movies, music, video games and I had a rent of fictions books between 7yo and 12yo.
I dont get how fi's consume NT stuff through fi?! Cuz for ti bill gates the info gotta make sense to his logical framework. But for instance if an INFP is studying math or physics do you wanna see if you like what you read?!
1. I love how Bill described himself when he talking about DFW. We looove throwing ourselves onto other people, and everybody does it. Those two would have made a hilarious odd couple sitcom. 2. Ne+Fi humor is the good variation. It can also look like "I'm unhappy, oh God all these little things keep relating back to it," then using Ne to figure it out, which makes you Fi exhausted, etc. It's a nasty animal. 3. Dave looked so disgusted watching Bill talk about reading.
NT would be play for an ESTJ. They could be Te/Ne play first. So... They'll basically find new ideas constantly and want to discuss their logic with people constantly. And once they find the next thing, the old thing gets dropped. For Te/Si Blast ESTJs, play would be the exact same thing, but less constant. Them dealing with NT would be through play, but they would be more focused on the tribe logic of the reality that's already established for them and the tribe. (If I understand it correctly)
Where is Consume if you consume pretty much everything like you consume background music - not concentrating hard, not taking notes, doing other things at the same time, trying to "learn by osmosis", hardly remembering any of it except things that were funny or resonate strongly? Third/last?
so...i'm ESFP-T meaning i'm Se+Te. Saviour play, demon blast (the complete opposite to this goofaloid) and technically a "thinking" type and i think i'm Femenine Se, Masculine Te...the thing is, i would like some more videos about the ESFP.
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo Cool, we're fairly similar then. Can you explain to me how the fuck your narrowing down process works? Ne to Si Consume -> Sleep boggles the hell out of me.
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo For my Se, I'll consume a whole lot of factual information that's correlated on a topic and then when I'm "sleeping" I'm looking at all the data that's been gathered and trying to pinpoint the intuitive "why" after. What I'm trying to ask is how the hell that process works for someone who's Ne over Si
Simon Taylor that’s very interesting actually. I have the opposite struggle of yours: I really struggle to imagine how Se > Ni does CS, but your explanation was really helpful. I haven’t been officially typed, but I would describe my CS, which is likely Ne > Si as such: In the process of gathering I comprehend the knowledge conceptually, based on connections, rather than a collection of data points. (Ne) Then I’ll compare my new knowledge to previously stored knowledge, and see how they connect, and if the information aligns. (Si/sleep) Sleep and Consume essentially work together like this for me: New information(Ne) -> Do I agree? (Di) -> Does it match my current knowledge? (Sleep) If not, why do they not align, and which is more accurate - the new information or my old information? I don’t know if this helps at all, but at least I had fun writing it lol
Simon Taylor But like @Mr. 8-bit Doggo said, the consuming and processing often happen simultaneously. I will read a few sentences in a book, then stop to process (do I agree? Does this match my known information? Etc. etc.) Other times I will consume something and not process it properly, and it will come back to me later in the day. I’ll say stuff to my friend like “remember what the teacher said about sociology during the first class? I just realized he was wrong because XYZ...” Honestly I have a hard time understanding consume without sleep, since they’re so closely tied together for me, so I’m probably mixing up my own consume and sleep processes. They just kinda bleed together in my mind, I suppose.
Didn't he say ne and se gatherers skim through thing s without paying attention but go through many kinds of info then why does gatherer an ne ti go through everything he reads with deteil this makes no sense -O
It's abit of a tricky one but I guess you can look at it like this...when looking for an answer/solution, saviour Se/Ne will prefer to look at a wide variety of information, however when they are consuming a particular pot of information, they are responsible to consume all of what is PRESENTLY infront of them. The Saviour Ni/Si may not consume ALL of what is presently infront of them when consuming a particular pot of information (by selectively consuming), however they are more willing to follow up with the same pot of information in the future, so while the Oi does this the Oe moves on to other sources of information. If bill gates was lead Ne, the scatteredness would probably be worse - but since he is a double observer it's not quite as bad as an ExxP.
So, no offense, but it basically sounds like you've created this concept of "consume" - which is essentially little more than saying EPs like to consume a lot of information - am I missing something? Cuz that sounds pretty much like just one of the more typical qualities of an EP - I don't see anything new you guys are actually doing, other than creating new labels and attaching them to new derivative layers of abstraction
Wait... how is Seth MacFarlane an INFP? Seems more like an ESTP... good at mocking stuff with just enough Fe to push the boundaries to get away with it
I think for IxxPs, it's more of, when they like or are interested in something, they'll consume as much as conditions allow, meaning they'll only consume what they like and they'll keep on taking in any information about it until they don't like it anymore, or by themselves decide to stop. While ExxPs are open to any type of information to consume, but it only registers to memory or for utility when it resonates with their "Fi values/truth or Ti logic/truth".
As an IP, I approve this post 😀
this makes sense. 👌
Agree, if I don't like it I dont want to have it
Yep. Basically the difference lies in where the filters applies.
EPs consume then filter. For IPs, it's the other way round
Bill Gates just explained why I don't pick up books very often. My mind is blown.
CZcams Veterinarian I haven’t been officially typed, but I’m quite certain it’s savior consume.
CZcams Veterinarian It’s the format of reading, not the act of consuming. Of course I have considered it, but I do so much CS-ing and so little BP-ing, I have a hard time believing I’ve consume as a demon. Reading is just the one type of consuming which is hard for me, because I, like Bill, set rules of reading and comprehension to myself. I prefer to take in information through other formats; visually, through audio etc.
CZcams Veterinarian indeed. Otherwise I’d never have typed myself as having Oe savior:). I will say, however, that my friend who has consume 3rd or 4th also claims to “love lots of new information”, so perhaps it isn’t the most accurate thing to type based on. She does enjoy new information, yet she prefers to go to her previously stored information first.
So no, I’m not certain that I’m consume savior, but I do think it seem most reasonable.
CZcams Veterinarian I think my friend might be quite similar to you, and that’s why she claims to love new information (because it is on her own terms). Could this be consume 3rd?
For me, often I consume something out of simple curiosity. It doesn’t need to be within a subject I know and love, or have any use in studying. It just needs to catch my attention and offer me NEW information.
After I’ve gathered it, I’ll take my time to process it.
So essentially I tend to discover something new, learn about it, process and practice it, and then put it to side when something else new and exciting pops up. Rinse and repeat 😂
CZcams Veterinarian Ohh I think I see where the disconnect is. I think you misunderstood my original comment a bit. It’s not that I don’t want to read new stuff.
I want to gain the new knowledge, but the format of reading demands a lot more of me than other formats. As Bill said, with reading especially you have to actively make sure you’re paying attention and comprehending. When reading one is in charge of placing emphasis the right places in order to understand the text the way it was meant to be understood. Essentially when I read, I feel responsible to take my time to scrutinize the text and fully comprehend and internalize it. It becomes a long process, and other formats make the process much easier, so I rarely pick up books. I should also mention that with books, the authors structure the text in a certain way for a reason. So basically I hold my self accountable for full comprehension all the way through the book, and if I stop actively paying attention at some point, I won’t get the full experience. It’s a bit hard to explain actually 😂
Saying I don’t want to read *new* stuff is misleading, because regardless of whether it’s new or old information, reading can be straining, as I have more responsibilities than I would if I only had to listen and comprehend.
I hope this clears it up a bit :)
this is so true for me as an INFP. it’s the reason i had so much trouble in college. I HAD feel like I was actually learning from each of my classes. I could never spead read my homework and if i wasn’t concentrating or didn’t have a lot of time, I would put off the task. I am a total perfectionist because I want to really understand and need. alot of time to evaluate info from my Fi viewpoint.
Eden Blair ... perfectionist?
I'm an INFP too. It was really difficult for me to finish the liberal arts reading assignments during college, because after every paragraph I had to stop and emotionally deal with what I just read, or have flashbacks about where I have seen the concept take action in the past, or perhaps even go to the internet on a tangent to explore and fully understand the new concept I had just read. I was literally getting upset over how my mom raised me when I had to read "The Second Sex". Everything hits me personally. Meanwhile the essay is due tomorrow....
I relate to this comment so much. I've typed myself as INFP too.
Alex Maximus I think they meant when ever they read they want to grasp every single point and not skip over anything, like when you speed read you miss a lot of the information from the book
Ohh My God, This is totally why I dropped out..
If I can`t be the best, I better not do it..
And also, I feel.so.guilty to pass with a B because I know I don`t know.enough so I feel like a fraude..
Takes a bit of effort to pass through that and keep going..
Oh please make other videos like this for the animals it's really good
These videos are golden. I unsubscribed and don’t listen to any other typology channel, even the ones I used to like. None of the others break it down like you guys. When you take MBTI + Functions + Masculine & Feminine + Sleep & Play + Blast & Consume like you all do it you really get the full picture.
This ^^^
Also Nathan Glass (Love Who), it's high-quality entertainment. Once you've figured the technical stuff out, you (or at least I) get bored, and all that's left of value in mbti YT videos is the entertainingness.
@baby turtle Jason Wilson is the same type as Dave, and, apart from the obvious aspects, they look like twins
They have a whole website. Have you seen it?
@@xynx1211 exactly!
Thumbs up if you Ne/Fi consumed this
Alexander Hall Now, how do Ne-Fi work together in consuming? I have a hard time imagining it, so I’d appreciate it if you’d explain it to me:)
Julia Hagen Ne likes to gather concepts and ideas, and then “passes them” down to Fi. Fi is concerned with how we ourselves feel about it, does it align with our moral understanding, our sense of authenticity, our emotional selves. Does that make sense? So if you have Ne/Fi consume, you’re out there creating/gathering/digging through abstractions & ideas and then cross checking with how they make you feel.
Alexander Hall thank you! :) it seemed so reverse to me for gathered concepts to have to be in line with personal morals/values, so I had a hard time comprehending it. So thank you for you explanation!
It was funny and I liked it.
✋🏼
Good old savior Ne... The reason I keep coming back!
that's Si
@@thegreatgmantheguy Plot twist: It's both. Psshh. Mindblown.
The Great G-man The Guy I don’t know about you, but I’m just here to be entertained by Dave and Shan’s ideas. I probably am using Si unconsciously in some way or if you count me screenshotting a chart for future reference. XD
@@southnoon5808 or see the concepts from a different angle
Well, this cleared many things up further. Confirming I am not an Exxp. I can be laxed about gathering, but mainly, I go to the same stores, roads, places. To enjoy my expected experiences.
This video was great for me in understanding consume (more so for Ti since Bill Gates (a very clear explainer) was set as an example). It would be helpful to have more of this example type for S, P and B.
Gates is a fascinating contrast with me. There's a huge difference between Consume with Sleep 2nd and Consume with Sleep 4th. The ratio of books I have begun to books I have finished is like 20 to 1.
Actually, I very recently developed a habit of note-taking while reading, and it's a dramatically different experience. I'm frustrated at the time with how much more slowly I move through the book, but afterwards I find it far easier to *recall and apply* that information. The work of "translating" the Ne stuff into Si instances that can be referenced in the future is very difficult, but incredibly rewarding.
Just thought you'd enjoy the example of what developing Sleep can do.
This may also be a contrast between decider Consume and observer Consume.
lol!! Everytime I had to read a book for class and didn't agree with it, it would stay on the shelf for weeks. Sometimes, I'd not even bother finishing it despite getting a bad grade for a book report lool!
Great breakdown of elegant concepts.
I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between NT consume and NT sleep :)
Someone Random Don’t you think we have enough NT videos. We need more videos about sensors
@@wes2262 Ok, then SF Blast vs SF Play! ;)
@@someonerandom713
and maybe the double masculine and double feminine versions as well.
Bill Gates (consume) vs Elon Musk (sleep). They have the videos here.
@@catinthepeng2686 That's NT consume and ST sleep though. I ment Ti + Ne versus Ti + Ni.
lol I have not thought about this very much before, but I'm pretty sure I'm Consume first (ISFP), and my husband (ISTJ) is low consume. I'm always googling stuff and reading stacks of books, magazines, articles etc...my husband makes fun of me that I start the day off already googling stuff, watching videos at breakfast. It just comes naturally to me, but I can see how it would be exhausting to someone with low consume.
When I get something new I excitedly get out the instructions and devour them. I’ll turn the box around and around and read every side. When my husband gets something new, he opens the box, gets out the instructions, and throws them away.
Funny thing was that I thought of me not finishing Infinite Jest, then Bill Gates starts talking about just that book.
These animal videos are fascinating but equal parts useful and confusing. I have felt sure over and over that I have got to have Blast and Play at the top (especially because I wish I didn't have them first), but there are some pieces of what you describe in Consume that seem to rule me. However, the whole Consume bit could be explained by my childhood. I never liked to have to go through every bit of information (or read a book all the way through), but I learned to (try to) do it with some things, and books are a bit of a rule to me that I want to finish every book I start. I have this *feeling* hovering over me if I don't finish a book. It's an unfinished Project. I can't leave anything unfinished!
Interesting, I've always thought Seth McFarlane is an ENTP. I'm going to have to go back and look at some of his old interviews. Great video as always, guys!
It would be great a video about masculine/feminine observer functions
I thought I was an INFJ for around 5 years...
Now I see a lot of similarities between me and Bill Gates (the fact that I have to be researching or learning something new nearly every day from a new book or course to solve important problems, taking notes and structuring all my notes into a guide with a highly structured, logical flow).
Also, I watched the Info Vs Energy Dominant video and thought Mike Chang seemed ridiculously illogical to me.
I am really really starting to see myself as either a highly introverted ENFP or ENTP.
My consume is weird. I listen to about 3 audiobooks per week. A 2020 goal is to slow down, take notes, and integrate the understanding better.
I've think I've got consume 1st. But sometimes when I'm working on a design or I'm going to go somewhere new, I consciously limit my research. In the former, too much info can stifle my creativity and imagination, or when travelling, limit my sense of adventure and awe.
Do not over consume.
Would it be safe to say that demon consume would be like, only mass study when you are invested into a topic and/or have something to gain from studying to use for something?
XxZekeKnightxX great question!! I want to know too.
That feeling when your brain drags you down the road of finishing that whole book or that whole 30-minute article and won’t let you stop. This Bill Gates clip reminded me why I dropped reading books. It’s the OBLIGATION to finish the whole. Damn. Thing. Starting up again another time is too expensive.
It’s like I’m a slave, and I only have one conscious choice at the beginning to stop before I start, otherwise I get swept under into unconscious consumption.
This video triggered my fear response, because OPS predicts this tendency in lead-Consumes which means I’m (1) predictable, and (2) not unique.
That’s a huge threat to my sense of Ne-freedom and Fi-significance. Damn it.
The more I watch about this extra add on stuff you've done, the more skeptical I'm becoming
Huh, my ex-partner was consume last and has never read a book in his life (Te/Si). I'm consume first (Fi/Ne) and love books and any information really.
I am consume first and I only ready books when the internet is down.
What's the difference between consuming and learning, let's say by reading. I've gotten the impression that they are pretty much the same thing so logically it would mean that as Ni/Te It is impossible for me to learn new concepts or to analyze them, which SEEMS to ME(as a human who like all humans can't see him-/herself) very odd, because I don't really recall not being able to do that. For example now I(assume) consumed the info you gave me and analyzed it which shouldn't be possible if my type of consume is Se-Fi. What did I miss?
i’d like an answer to thus as well. i’m Pi/Fe or Pi/Ti but i don’t hate reading. taking in information, being disturbed by information or by people blasting information which i don’t know could be unnecessary or not - it’s super annoying to me. but reading and learning for pleasure, select times, is definitely not.
I wonder if people tend to consume according to type even if it's not their first animal.
For example, my consume is second and SF. So do i take in information like Kim K, or does it not work that way at all?
Because if i had to guess, I'd say that i even consume in a more intuitive way but then again that could just be my lack of perspective/good comparisons.
Well, if I understood it right, and I think I did, if your consume is SF, you tend to consume sensorial facts that you like, it doesn't matter if you consume first, second or whatever. Maybe you think you consume intuitively because when you're consuming, you often stop to do your first animal. For instance, I'm Si/Ti SC/B(P), so my consume is Ti/Ne, but often when I'm reading or wachting a video or something like that, I take a time to reflect about what I'm consuming and organize all the details and factual information (sleep SiTi).
2:00 this was me in grad school and why I had to drop out.
I’m not sure where consume is in my animal stack, but I can relate to the pressure that Gates puts on himself when it comes to processing new information. Just coming in slow af.
2:00 me in exams when I didnt study meticulously beforehand because otherwise I'll do it during the exam
I'm a theoretically entj and I love meeting new people because they are an endless source of new information. I find them fascinating. Would that suggest a lead consume?
I am the consume 'crack addict', constantly trying to accumulate new information which is interesting to me and in school I didn't take subjects that contained premises I didn't agree with, or I would just get bored reading the same thing over. When doing assignments or papers I would get stuck in the research phase and not manage to organise and consolidate it half of the time into a complete assignment or paper even though I spent hours and hours on it. Which of these am I? (I think it's preventing me from getting a degree.)
What does Dave mean when he says “standards on self” for Ti? I think this is something I’ve been trying to figure out but can’t see it clearly yet.
I think what he meant by that is the standards a Fi or Ti user puts on themselves to have integrity towards the consistency with either their values or logic.
I would love for you guys to try typing some well known preachers. Eg Andy Stanley or Brian Houston.
This video makes me see that Consume is pretty high up there, but it feels like Blast is also high up there for me? The more videos of yours I watch the less I feel confident about my type.
Is it possible for me to change from INTP sleep first to INTP consume first?
Thanks
I'm so here for the tidbits at the end lol
Alright, now for the million dollar question, is there a correlation to who we are attracted to; especially when they have the opposite to our double masculine or feminine animals? I couldn't help but notice that both you and Shan have double feminine animals as your second but they're both the inverse of each other.
Shan has Dave's inverse of double masculine consume as double feminine as her second animal and Dave has the inverse of her double masculine blast.
Idk if I have to agree with a book/document necessarily, so much as I have to *understand*
Haha I have Infinite Jest still sitting on my self for a very similar reason.
Omg dave powers is still alive! Where's keith?
In before “reeeeeee bILl GaTeS iSnT aN iNtP!”
I think the type of information being consumed is this clear only if Consume is the first animal. Otherwise, I think it would be much more complex. If you were a SC type of Ni-dom, for example.
What about a person who consumes to blast and blasts to consume? Also how do we account for the impact of neurodivergence?
For example I have both ADHD and Autism but I frequently type as INFP and personally agree with this identity (though not every stereotype around it)
That being said I am also studying for a degree in philosophy and often find the majority of my time is spent exploring thoughts and ideas and seeking out new information to try and come to new understandings and build the best most consistent worldview I can and once I get a piece to fit the puzzle it sparks new inspiration for new questions to explore that couldn’t even be understood before.
I also in my approach whenever I can love to engage others in philosophical discussions to understand differing viewpoints and test my hypotheses against their reasoning, it’s pretty easy to convince my logic but not nearly as easy to sway my values which is why I don’t think im INTP, but I just happen to value logical thinking in general.
Anyways I end up blasting my theories at others but in turn really intently take the time to soak in the responses and different perspectives I get and really think them over and try to understand them on a deep level.
I always kinda assumed a lot of this was explained by my ADHD/Autism traits with special interests drawing in my attention and info-dumping on those interests to others and then being specially attentive to what they have to say.
Adhd makes my interests widely varied and outspoken and Autism makes me deep dive into them and hyperfixate.
But idk how that affects tthe functions.
I posed a similar question to Harry on his channel “Cognitive Personality Theory” which I also find very insightful for how things work behind the scenes of the functions and see it as a complementary theory to this one.
Honestly I would love to see a between your two channels with your scientific approaches to personality discussed and explored in depth, and honestly research into how neurodivergency impacts personality would be amazing!
Thank you for your thoughtful insights!
How will consume look like in a INFP vs ENFP, since they both uses Fi/Ne?
Roughly speaking, IP consume will have an easier time comparing the Consumed info to known info, like Bill demonstrates. EP consume will have an easier time weighing the consumed info between the Self/Tribe and Valuation/Reasoning, like Jordan Peterson demonstrates very well
Can Consume come to an end? I thought I was INTP with Consume saviour, but I have only read a few books to the end. Now I don't even read anymore. After decades of noodling, I figured out my own philosophy and wrote a book, so now I can't stand reading other people's dumb opinions. These days, my Consume comes out in watching CZcams videos and Netflix. But I'm getting bored with that too. I’m more interested in creativity and spirituality now, and even travel.
Who is the guy on the far left Fi-Ne consume?
If you have consume first, does this mean that your respective Oe and Di are your saviour functions?
Yes.
@1:41 why couldn't it just be Te/*Fi* saying "it has to make sense to *ME*"? There's no reason it has to be Ti
Of course an INTJ would think ESFP's are the dumbest ones. But a professional like you (Dave) has no right to express it in those blunt terms. Especially someone who has a deep understanding of types and human nature. As an INTP, I think ESFP (and especially Kim ^^) are awesome people, that we need in our life, and they are very fun and enthousiastic about ideas and theories. So don't say they're dumb because they don't work the way you work. I personnaly feel that INTJ's are sometimes the smartest self-defeating people, but do I have to say it out loud, and at their face? No, unless they are being obnoxious and need some feedback to get back on track. Cheers, and thanks for all the work btw.
i think she's ISFP because all the examples they gave were IXXP's with that first decider function
@@surfacetension2298 Good point. But anyway. xSFP are nice and have many times proved to be very insightful persons, while many NT's are plain dumb...
Sadly, I agree with him, but that's what happens when your Fi comes in. Yeah, you get that those people can be useful to the tribe in some way, but to you, that part doesn't matter too much.
Edouard Writer They said the dumbest Consume not the type or the person. He tell that because of this kind of consume + he knows it is his consume demon so he just react like fuck that shit it’s my demon. Gamma Quadra has this type of consume.
Well, he isn't wrong...
tfw lead consume but have no one to share my resources with because most of my buddies have demon consume
Simon Taylor Sounds like you just haven’t found an Oi-De who shares an interest in what you’re gathering!
@@LemonMeIon It's not that, really. So Dave and Shan typed me MF Ti/Se CS/B(P) -- my partner and I narrowed down my dad to MF Te/Ni BS/C(P). My dad and I have the same interests by and large, we just approach them differently straight up because of our type differences. Getting my dad to Consume so that we can be on the same page when we talk is a serious pain in the ass.
@CZcams Veterinarian Can you be more specific with your question?
@CZcams Veterinarian You sign up for their class for a minimum of 2 months at $19/month then pay $119 to get typed. You then record a video of yourself answering an almost annoyingly short questionnaire for 1 hour.
@CZcams Veterinarian It's 6 questions. It's meant to be tricky to make it go for an hour. And yes. I had myself typed as MF Ti/Ne CS/B(P). After I watched my own video, before I got the results, I realized it was Se and not Ne.
How does consume work for J types?
Will an ENTJ, for example, be
Se > Fi, Se > Ti, or Ne > Ti ?
Thought about it and my assumption is that it depends on the situation. Tuning into his ESFP subconscious it will be Se > Fi.
When tuning into INTP unconscious Ne > Ti
Can anyone share their thoughts about this? Thanks!
ENTJ is Te-Ni-Se-Fi, so it would be like a baby ESFP consume - taking in easy surface-level information (Se), and internalizing what they like (Fi) - all so reluctantly because their preferred animal in action (in contrast) would be either blast or play.
@@trayson Thank you!
So for the ones that don't like to consume/learn/ search, what the process they make to learn or add info ?
If they are Ni dominant, it will be connected to their goal. So basically if they come to the conclusion that for their dream job they will need to know XYZ, they will search the internet and/or read books. While they're doing this, they are also judging each knew information, trying to decide if it's worth to remember or not, because as consume last, they want to take in THE LEAST amount of info.
For Si dominants, it's connected to their system. The Si trusts the process. This means "doing this will make my life better". For example they might come to the conclusion that reading in a second language will help their brain develop better. This might not be connected to any kind of specific goal, although it will generally come in handy in some situations. This will push them to read. The Si logic is: if I do things a certain way and live my life doing certain things, I will be equipped with the right skills and knowledge to do anything I decide.
Who's the guy on the right with the dumbo ears
His name is Tom-Tom. That's his name.
Is Bill an INTP or ENTP?
A funny story about "The New"
I needed medicine for my allergies, and also some for my mom's diabetes. I was getting ready to leave the house and go to a drug store. My brother came in, said "There's this new site, they have a discount for new client, 500 rubles, for the first order. You can order there, they deliver the same day"
What did my ass do? I got irritated, uncomfortable and said "No, I will do it the old way, and I will go and buy my medicine where I usually buy it", and I left the house.
My greatest struggle in life is learning how to do things differently. Especially, when it took me time and effort to learn how to do them the way I do them in the first place.
Where that video of bill gates taken from??
ok i'm consume haha
What if you consume a lot on CZcams but you read and study not often. I have to force myself for the things I don’t want to but once I go read, 70% of the time I like it and want more 30% of the time (30 of the 70). Even if when I was young I read a lot of fantasy books. It’s like I want one kind of method/format for the consume. After that I gather lots of news about like 6 différents topics on that format more specifically. I think I am consume second and I think I have the dumbest consume (Se Fi) haha.
That is demon consume. You plan your consume.
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin I still consume all day about the things I like. I think I am SC so my organise/processing/consume happen fast and automatic/default. But I have a hard time communicating it. I never talk about my consume which is against blast savior. If you tell me if I respect it hummm difficult to say because I don’t like consuming every type of things (my Fi I would say).
Are you watching CZcams because you want to learn stuff. Or are you watching it because its entertaining? You can say "I DO BOTH". But which one is more important to you?
@@lexih7653 I would say entertaining come first. But learning is still entertainment in some level. I am still young (19) but I have 6 major interests in my consume. 1. Music 2. Movies 3. Personality theories 4. Business/trading 5. Video games 6. Human science topics (Psychology/philosophy 3/4 of times on podcast). All that on youtube and movies on my tv/Ipad. I am trying to split my consume in other format like reading some stuff (6.) instead of videos. I consume maybe 5 hours per days when I dont work and maybe 3 hours when I dont have a big day at school (even if my schedule is only like 17 hours a week this semester). 1. 3. happens naturally, 5. 6. when something get my attention, 2. for fun, 4. because I want to learn. I start consuming a lot 3 years ago, before that I just consume movies, music, video games and I had a rent of fictions books between 7yo and 12yo.
@@savagestudio9666 Sounds like savior consume. Hard to tell without a typing video though.
I dont get how fi's consume NT stuff through fi?! Cuz for ti bill gates the info gotta make sense to his logical framework. But for instance if an INFP is studying math or physics do you wanna see if you like what you read?!
1. I love how Bill described himself when he talking about DFW. We looove throwing ourselves onto other people, and everybody does it. Those two would have made a hilarious odd couple sitcom.
2. Ne+Fi humor is the good variation. It can also look like "I'm unhappy, oh God all these little things keep relating back to it," then using Ne to figure it out, which makes you Fi exhausted, etc. It's a nasty animal.
3. Dave looked so disgusted watching Bill talk about reading.
I thought BG was INTJ.
So bill gates is intp
Wish Bill Gates talked that openly about Epstein
I wonder what an ESTJ-NT would act like?
I know, not Consume, but still curious.
NT would be play for an ESTJ. They could be Te/Ne play first. So... They'll basically find new ideas constantly and want to discuss their logic with people constantly. And once they find the next thing, the old thing gets dropped.
For Te/Si Blast ESTJs, play would be the exact same thing, but less constant. Them dealing with NT would be through play, but they would be more focused on the tribe logic of the reality that's already established for them and the tribe.
(If I understand it correctly)
Are you an ESTJ? :)
You mean in general? Totally badass 😎
@@someonerandom713 Nope. Well, nothing confirmed yet, but I _seem_ to be a fairly blast-heavy NT type. ESTJs, whatever the variant, fascinate me.
Please try to type Kubrick
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo yea
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo yea i know hes so well rounded, hard to peg down
Where is Consume if you consume pretty much everything like you consume background music - not concentrating hard, not taking notes, doing other things at the same time, trying to "learn by osmosis", hardly remembering any of it except things that were funny or resonate strongly? Third/last?
so...i'm ESFP-T meaning i'm Se+Te. Saviour play, demon blast (the complete opposite to this goofaloid) and technically a "thinking" type and i think i'm Femenine Se, Masculine Te...the thing is, i would like some more videos about the ESFP.
So Kim K is not an ISTJ? Her demeanor is very cold and robotic, typical of I*TJs. ISFP is not making sense here. Could she be an INTJ?
Bill Gate type is ?
IIRC Bill Gates is a stock INTP
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo Cool, we're fairly similar then. Can you explain to me how the fuck your narrowing down process works? Ne to Si Consume -> Sleep boggles the hell out of me.
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo For my Se, I'll consume a whole lot of factual information that's correlated on a topic and then when I'm "sleeping" I'm looking at all the data that's been gathered and trying to pinpoint the intuitive "why" after.
What I'm trying to ask is how the hell that process works for someone who's Ne over Si
Simon Taylor that’s very interesting actually. I have the opposite struggle of yours: I really struggle to imagine how Se > Ni does CS, but your explanation was really helpful.
I haven’t been officially typed, but I would describe my CS, which is likely Ne > Si as such:
In the process of gathering I comprehend the knowledge conceptually, based on connections, rather than a collection of data points. (Ne) Then I’ll compare my new knowledge to previously stored knowledge, and see how they connect, and if the information aligns. (Si/sleep)
Sleep and Consume essentially work together like this for me: New information(Ne) -> Do I agree? (Di) -> Does it match my current knowledge? (Sleep) If not, why do they not align, and which is more accurate - the new information or my old information?
I don’t know if this helps at all, but at least I had fun writing it lol
Simon Taylor But like @Mr. 8-bit Doggo said, the consuming and processing often happen simultaneously.
I will read a few sentences in a book, then stop to process (do I agree? Does this match my known information? Etc. etc.)
Other times I will consume something and not process it properly, and it will come back to me later in the day. I’ll say stuff to my friend like “remember what the teacher said about sociology during the first class? I just realized he was wrong because XYZ...”
Honestly I have a hard time understanding consume without sleep, since they’re so closely tied together for me, so I’m probably mixing up my own consume and sleep processes. They just kinda bleed together in my mind, I suppose.
Didn't he say ne and se gatherers skim through thing s without paying attention but go through many kinds of info then why does gatherer an ne ti go through everything he reads with deteil this makes no sense
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He's ti/ne. The savior function is not the gatherer function.
@@jumpingjoy20 The saviour function IS the gatherer function. His Ti and his Ne are both saviour functions.
@@jumpingjoy20 no the gatherres are the extraverted deciders like se ne search up his video on it
He contradicted himself in the explaination of the gatherers (ne se) and consume
It's abit of a tricky one but I guess you can look at it like this...when looking for an answer/solution, saviour Se/Ne will prefer to look at a wide variety of information, however when they are consuming a particular pot of information, they are responsible to consume all of what is PRESENTLY infront of them. The Saviour Ni/Si may not consume ALL of what is presently infront of them when consuming a particular pot of information (by selectively consuming), however they are more willing to follow up with the same pot of information in the future, so while the Oi does this the Oe moves on to other sources of information. If bill gates was lead Ne, the scatteredness would probably be worse - but since he is a double observer it's not quite as bad as an ExxP.
So, no offense, but it basically sounds like you've created this concept of "consume" - which is essentially little more than saying EPs like to consume a lot of information - am I missing something? Cuz that sounds pretty much like just one of the more typical qualities of an EP - I don't see anything new you guys are actually doing, other than creating new labels and attaching them to new derivative layers of abstraction
x = (SeFi + SeTi+NeFi+NeTi)
x = Se ( Fi + Ti) + Ne ( Fi + Ti)
x = (Se + Ne) (Fi + Ti)
But
x = (Se+Fi Se+Ti Ne+Fi Ne+Ti)
x = Ti (Ne+1)+Se(Fi+1)+FiNe
Wait... how is Seth MacFarlane an INFP? Seems more like an ESTP... good at mocking stuff with just enough Fe to push the boundaries to get away with it