Are All Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Athletes On Steroids? - Craig Jones
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- Chris and Craig Jones discuss if BJJ has a steroid problem. Is there a steroid problem in BJJ according to Craig Jones? Why does Craig Jones think so many Brazilian athletes do steroids? Does Craig Jones think he is a good role model for kids?
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Maybe Roids have a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu problem
You win! 🥇🏆Should have closed the comments after yours!
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My sensei is a walking talking steroid
lol
Bravo!
BJJ has been rampant with PED's for decades; this is definitely not anything new. People being honest and up front about it is relatively new.
They aren't being honest though. If they were being honest they would say that they are coming forward with it for clout.
@@JustNo8808what?
@@HarietDubman The people there are meeting to taking steroids in the recent years are doing so for attention. If there was negative consequences for admitting those things like there used to be, they wouldn't be doing it. In fact not only is there not negative consequences but there are positive consequences nowadays.
@@JustNo8808 why there should be negative consequences ?people want to juice to push their limits and its fine if every one is on gear there is no cheating i dont see any problem with that
Any sport that doesn't test will have a huge PED problem.
Craig Jones is the best No Gay Jiu Jitsu artist in the ABCD competition.
250 ml of test + Anavar + low dose of deca is not TRT, it's a low dose cycle.
He did say this is my stack. The test is a cruise/TRT dose but I agree adding anavar is not for therapy reasons. Some clinics I’ve heard of will prescribe deca but very low dose, spread out due to the long ester of deca. Some NPP would be better imo
Didn't he say ge only adds the anavar + deca close to competition.
@@dmythica yea he did. Probably low dose T to cruise year round and adds them in to prep for a tourney or match. Now that I think about it… the pumps on Var + jiu jitsu must be ridiculous some days. Forearm pump 🤯
250mg of test alone is already not TRT, heck even 200mg will put 95% of people well above reference range
@@JlecHuktrue 125-150 usually puts most people in the high ‘standard’ reference range
“I’m on trt so my balls are pretty small “
Lmao
Dude I LOVE your honesty. Test. Anavar. Decca. Need more transparency like this
It blows my mind. I started training BJJ in 2003, I remeber seeing all these champs Galvao, Rodolpho, Monson, Romulo Brral, Popovitch, Arona . I realize how naive I was and they were all roided out of thier minds and its crazy lol. I never heard a whisper about steroid use in my gym or anyone else I knew in the community.
Craig is the most entertaining jiu jitsu athlete out there.
I think we should do a "crack vs meth" division. Imagine the high level grappling we would get
Meth win easy
I'd like to see drunk BJJ, in jeans and hoodies - make it more street real.
Meth takes the trophy bro. 1st place gets new teeth
That's actually a lot. Deca Anavar and 250 of test? That's not TRT.
Stack
Most "TRT" that sportsmen take isn't TRT. It's just a euphemism for sub-bodybuilding juicing. It's not like all these young, fit dudes are likely to need TRT! Remember when all the UFC guys came as as needing 'TRT' - before Dana put a stop to it. RIdiculous.
It’s not that cut and dry. He didn’t provide anavar or deca dosages so we don’t know.
250 per week test will yield different results for different people. This was the standard TRT dose for a very long time.
Micro dosing deca would be enough to protect the joints a dose like 50 mg a week and only taken as needed.
Same with anavar 25 mg once or twice a week will provide results. Bodybuilding dose would be 50-100 mg per day for 6 weeks.
Never heard of this guy until this past week. Listened to him here and on Rogan. He’s the definition of not giving a f*ck. very funny guy.
He's one of the best
Not seen him on Rogan before with volk ?
Never heard of him? Go back to your rock
Juice-Jitsu
Jiu-jiucetsu
Bruh... 😆
No. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has a steroid solution.
The problem is not taking enough steroids.
Paul Harris agrees.
Gordon Ryan is taking more than enough ahahhahhahaha
I like where this is going
Craig Jones is a brilliant mind..much respect
Captain America takes super soldier serum while others take Steroids.
Love ICONs that are straight up real.
hell yeah i think criag should released out an instructional about this topic
It depends on the individual, juice is tricky, you could be a non responder or hyper responder, it depends on what stuff you take, if it really is what your "pharmacist" sells you or it's water.
Im 44 and not an athlete and I'm on 200mgs of Test/Cyp per week. Dr prescribed of course.
There should be just a juiced category in competition.
Dude 250mg/week of cypionate test is very high....im 43 and take 100mg/wk to get my levels around 650. Add anavar on top of that you're definitely on a cycle not a "therapeutic" dose.
“Therapeutic” dosage
That’s actually accurate.
Only for us oldsters who fall asleep for a nap before we can get it up!
@@ippolea 200mg weekly and above is always* going to be supra physiological in anyone, aka, steroid use.
It’s honestly is why I love him 🙏👏
No, they are just more open about it. All professional sports participants are juicing, every Olympians, etc.
Right.
A better question is, do almost all professional sports have a PED/steroid problem & the answer is yes.
“No, they don’t all use roids! They just say they do more than others!”
Huh? Try to write a coherent comment.
I have taken care, I'm a sports medicine physician in Brazil, of several high performing athletes who have never juiced. I've had one specific that had used in the last, but when he finally got in a great mma event he was drug free for a long time. So I don't think everyone is juicing as much as we think.
Every Olympian? That’s a crazy assumption and isn’t based on any facts.
@@DarkArtsDeepDive you have any proof that any of them isn't juicing? Seems like you ain't based on any facts either
Is Jiu-Jitsu really that different with no pubic hair?
And you guys thought BJJ was about small guys being able to beat big guys because of the Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
Haha, someone who sees the top 3 in each divisions and still believe that bs won't ever wake up to reality.
It WAS about that.
Captain America takes super soldier serum while others take Steroids.
I like Marcelo Garcia, though...
Marcelo Garcia is great.
@@PhilSophia-ox7ep
John Danaher upgraded and packaged Marcelo Garcia' moves really well.
But Gracie' developed leverage RIGHT???
The whole thing is pretty much fakery to begin with.
Except and I repeat Marcelo Garcia.
No one who does bjj says this. We are on the mats wrestling way bigger dudes. We know this.
The Bomba is cheaper there than supplements are.
Straight speech my parça
And it actually works.
2:04 I love the comment. When you are going to do it and its secret you are left with a choice of idiots. I seriously wish more people would understand this lesson.
That's weird because with me, loss of explosiveness, debilating pumps et gassing out after 1 min of BJJ round comes from already 150 mg per week. I don't really get how some can be effective with 500 mg +
Therapeutic dose…plus a little anovar?!
I think hes joking, he also says a low dose of Deca which is schedule 2 drug, its not light stuff. He knows he using hard stuff and joking that it Therapeutic.
LOL yeah a 250 dose a week, some anavar, and deca... Craig is hilarious, and funny part is you have no idea if he's telling the truth or just joking. I'm assuming joking on anavar and deca, but his blood pressure is notoriously through the roof.
You can get deca and anavar prescribed for trt
Didn't find him to be joking at all. That's a very realistic stack for a bjj guy like that
@@thegoldenthread-greatstori6795 from what I know about deca, it's for life, once you're on it you will always need exdrogenous test. I guess I find that a joke if you're saying it's just trt. At that point why not go all out and use a test stack?
false reap accusations lmaoooo
Well knowing Craig this should be an educational & wild podcast. I'm looking forward to listening to it.
No. There aren't plenty of people who practice-regularly-who Aren't!
250/wk is no small stack
Haha it’s literally as small as it can be without being trt
@@AJ-fp5uz well considering a healthy male only makes an endogenous amount of ~50mg/wk, and most see noticeable gains when only dosing 80-125mg/wk exogenously - which is the typical TRT dose range, this makes 250mg/wk quiet a lot at more than double what most people take for TRT.
@@syntropy3020 50mg per week with no ester weight so it doesn’t directly translate plus not everyone responds the Same to testosterone and need up to 200 just to reach normal levels. Either way 250 is more than trt but it’s still a small ass cycle
250 might put some people above normal range but not all. If you don't have experience with testosterone or steroids its better to dont talk things you dont know
Yeah 250mg will put most people at double (or more) natural levels. It’s not crazy compared to what many PED users take but still makes a huge difference.
Meth, like, crystal meth, would give you an obvious edge.
Go fast.
craig jones, supreme sensei of mexican ground karate
Craig is the honest guy
therapeutic nose beers
Always been told to not take Anavar and deca at the same time
Meth before matches???
Many thai smoke It before fight
Yes... the answer is yes
TRT is like 160mg T per week depending on body weight etc
OK, doc.
YES
Lets just say USADA aint invited
Harm reduction is just an example of a failed judicial system.
I’m from Brazil, it’s easy to get roids legal or ilegal, and we get them
Im from Brazil too and it’s true, many people here are on roids
@@BrisaRuiva Same in the west, although not sure about how rampant it is in the bjj community. But in the commercial gyms, there are a lot of roid abuse.
@@pinksupremacy6076 west where?
hmmm...wasn"t bjj about the little skinny smaller guy using the gentle art technique on bigger stronger opponents?😂😅😂😅
i remember having trained in rio 10 years ago...there were a few brainless 45 year olds high on steroids....they had hulk bodies and looked like they were 60+...finished off faces, bad hair, i actually called them senhor instead of vc😅😅😅😅
@@oritafilms omg lol 😂😂😂😂
I was taking 250mg per week, but now knowing this I'm gonna take a ml a week... that basically guarantees I'm going to win ADCC against the 3 plumbers that are still competing
The answer is yes lol
Guilty as charge so they wont answer shit straight away
In the medical field, multiply by at least 2x
Yes
I wish he'd ask him if Nicky Rod's also on the sauce.
Does the pope shit in his hat?
@@HerculesLoydno. Only Hercules did that 😂
He’s a natural athlete
Craig obviously not hyper responsive to pharma grade hormones, because that would be gay.
All of them are juiced
100% if from Brazil
Did you guys see the response to IBJJF placing more strict testing protocols? So many athletes pulled out & protested so ibjjf never did it. I do BJJ but the community is meh.
Low dose stacks are just really good for maintenance and recovery. You're not really going to get off the chart performance enhancements
this is fucked and the sport needs cleaning up it sounds actually dangerous for the athletes as they are going to these crazy dudes giving them insane shit,
EXACTLY the reason why I wouldn’t compete. I’m not a druggy. Love bjj but don’t love the idea of doing drugs to be bigger better faster stronger sharper. Can’t do it naturally why bother n I’m over 40. So I’ll leave the conpeting to the druggies UNLESS I know there aren’t many druggies in my category when I’m ready
2025 World IBJJF Division.
Natural division. WADA tested.
No athletes attend. Complete failure as a division.
5:35 I love your channel and your audience, I'm gonna comment on ALL your videos for years until I reach your level of subscribers.
200-250 a week...LOL.. I know guys take more way than that.. but come on that's double threptic and be probably more like 300. But man, Craig is refreshing with his honesty
"Double therapeutic"? OK, doc.
Where did you get that sleep token shirt from ?
Of course not…same as not all TDF cyclists aren’t on PED’s, same as Olympic weightlifters but A LOT are..
Probably
What clinic he use in texas.. I'm looking for a clinic. Family doc has me on trt. But a tiny amount. I want a good clinic with expert. Family doc knows very little. And keeps me around 350. He'll avg for my age is 250 to 1000. So he won't get me to the 1000.
Not "all", just 100%..........
Trt is not steroids
No
His cycle for anyone thats wondering its 3200mg of estrogen and 1500g of mexican cocaine
Yes they are and that’s why they always suck in MMA. Can’t compete without the roids in real fights
The notion that MMA fighters don't use PEDs is absurd.
yes
More like steroids have a BJJ problem
Normalizing this does no favors to anyone...
Not this topic specifically, but I found this a hard watch. Chris behaves like some sycophantic individual which dilutes the key moments Craig talks about. A shame as this had potential.
All dahastani Samba athletes seem to be.
No, only the good ones
200-250 a week is a bit more than a TRT dose .... but it's not crazy.
No it's literally a therapeutic dosage buddy. Anywhere from 100-300 mgs is considered therapeutic btw. Go watch more plates more dates and get back here.
Does he not risk being turned away from the US border by saying all this? Pretty sure the rules are that you cannot enter if you are convicted of drugs crimes or admit to breaking the laws?
False reap accusations😂😂😂😂
If he claims 250, he's taking 1250
I can't genuinely tell if Craig is on gear or not. He knows enough to be on it but he also loves trolling.
he is.... the 250mg test is true... the rest is joking the benefit of such a dose is mostly way faster recovery and thats it
@@lordad "the rest is joking" - didn't sound like he was joking about the anavar and deca
Anavar and Deca? 🤔
Second best in what world? Maybe second best on his gym.
So turns out, we’ve all been juicing and doing cocaine. I love this sport.
I don't know Jack about jj but I do know that *all athletes are jucing.
We tried for long enough to regulate this and all we have accomplished is to establish yet another bloated institution that managed to regulate their sports well enough to gate the poor because money will always find a way around it.
It is time to let it go ❄️ bring me the mutant league.
I am ready.
If people make the decision to die with 40 cause they have taken all there is to take, let them.
But I bet that most will actually want to live long enough to enjoy their work.
We can always go back to whatever we pretend to have now.
Ay, yo! Likewise. I'm all for the Mutant League as well. Bring it! 🤘😄
The enhanced games is there 😂
I dunno, anyone at the top level of their sport, pretty much all started as very young children.
Most are groomed and even bred to be that way.
Gonna be a lot of people that aren't adults geared towards the gear
100% not ALL brazilians, but GORDON RYAN is the king of STEROIDS in the combat sports world.
Tren jitsu
wow, are u even asking that ? lol
Kayla Harrison ? 💉
Nah Kayla is an Olympic athlete she's been tested her entire career, she cuts massive weight and ends up huge in her weight division, and she's been cutting since she was in grade school so she's got an advantage. When she was in the Olympics she was up to 78 kilos, in UFC Bantam she's down to 65, she's been much bigger and being tested by the best in the world by the IOC. She is just a legitimate animal.
@@OmegaSupremeWCheese dude shes on gear dont be naive
@@user-pd9ti1uu9z dude realize she's smaller now than when she was in the Olympics, If she's juicing she's the only person to get smaller doing it. You only think she's juicing because you've no idea who Kayla is outside of MMA.
She was tested thoroughly in the Olympics, who have the strictest testing on the planet, and then they save your blood for years and continue to test it when new methods come out.
She's just cutting massively and that makes her look shredded, and coming down so many weight classes she towers over these poor girls, but she was up to 78 kilos in the Olympics, go look at videos of her 5-7 years ago, she was around 165 lbs, 30 lbs smaller than she fights at now.
@@OmegaSupremeWCheese there are undetectable steroids called designer steroids that cant be detected so every athlete propably takes something if they can aford it or know how to cycle off steroids to dont get caught. Olympic games or not doesnt really matter they can beat the tests easy
@@tougeattack123 Yes that is why the Olympics retain your samples for a decade and retest annually, no major judoka has ever been popped for roids, because they're the most heavily tested athletes on the planet. Kayla is a freak of nature, and at least on paper the greatest judoka the US has ever produced. Travis Stevens has the US only Silver, but Kayla was only the 3rd woman to ever medal since the 60's, and she took two Golds.
Going to be interesting to see how doped athletes age.
Lil too late for the whole the next gen not wanting to take peds I see 16 year Olds jacked out of there mind asked one what the hell you training for uuuhhh bjj I was like oh God here we go f(ckin gordon ryan
Nothing like taking performance enhancing drugs and justifying it by saying the he wants the noobs to be "aware". What a fucking joke.
Whenever someone claims that EVERYONE is on juice just read their comment as them justifying the fact they need juice to even compete which is why you see so many freaks these days …can’t just accept their genetics and all that so they juice to keep up with the gifted
My man said just a low dose deca like its not the most toxic steroid ever
Deca is just nortestosterone-19 which is a bio-identical hormone. You’re thinking of tren.
Ask me how I know you have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@bradwebb6927No. Tren is not the most toxic, by any measure. It has a lot of psychological effects and is memed to hell. Big difference.
Trenbolone is far worse than Deca. It absolutely wreaks havoc on your body and mind.
deca is one of the relatively safe compounds, especially at a low dose. The most toxic steroid is most likely cheque drops. Cant remember the actual drug name. But deca is far far from the worst
At this point if this is being asked u just don’t bother to do basic research shit is oldddd news 😭
Lol 250mg a week isn't trt does 😅
Not at all
This is why jiu jitsu needs the Olympics
oh god no, the Olympics kills anything it touches. BJJ has taken over the western hemisphere, if you compare it to Judo it's not even close, Judo is on life support kept alive by countries that have to subsidize their athletes or schools, the private market for Judo is on it's deathbed, constantly having to change the rules just to keep IOC, old school Judo which is 10x more fun is dead as schools conform to the rule changes.
nahh it doesnt Olympics are corrupt as fuck and athletes use gear and pass the tests no problem.i dont understand what is your problem if people want to juice let them juice
This is sad to me.
😂
Its not fair to highlight brazil.
😂
@@kchorwitz3394 Are you laughing because they all use?
Anyone felxing professionally is on the juice.