The Completionist Charity Situation Gets Worse...
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- čas přidán 19. 11. 2023
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time I give an update on the charity situation involving one of the biggest OGs on this platform, The Completionist. With plenty of statements surfacing in regards to egregious claims regarding his Open Hand foundation it's time we dig a bit deeper and see that things aren't as they should be. Thanks for watching!
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What would happen if the money never existed because of some reasons. 😐
Can someone give a TLDW description please?
For a second I thought something happened to Meat Canyon.
Why bring up ProJared's controversy when it has nothing to do with this? Jared has never been accused of stealing charity money. You are such a snake, Muta.
@@archangelgabriel5316me too ahaha
The amount of people exposing themselves for not even paying attention by asking “why didn’t they talk to jirard” is extremely funny.
Hehehehe yeah
that shit pisses me off so much, deal with that type of stuff irl, everyone so focused on responding they never stop to listen
@@cjpackintelligence is at an all time low
I noticed this immediately, on twitter there was one guy who was saying "remember projared? you should let the other side say their side before coming to conclusions" except they did let the completionist say their side, it was in the actual video. Turns out the guy was just a hater of this channel and wasn't afraid to state it. so he was biassed. Even projared is a hypocrite. "let both side say their story" except he didn't even watch the accusations side, because he would have seen the completionists side then too. Of all the people you'd think he'd know.
@djhowell5273 The strangest thing is that it isn't. Critical thinking is.
So people are mad that a charity got exposed instead of being mad at a charity for committing fraud. What a time to be alive.
It's called brand loyalty, mate. It's the same reason Nestle is still successful despite all the shit they pull: Popularity and brand loyalty overrides reasoning.
Parasocial relationships basically.
I think people are mad because all CZcams is now is just dumb commentary/react channels trying to turn any minor event into clicks.
@@robertallen2151 im no Mutahar fan but if youre referring to these videos he’s put out on Jirard, I wouldn’t really call 10 years of charity fraud with $600k raised by the gaming community a “minor event”
Its downright cult like , most of the people who defend jirad are far-leftwing radicals . No matter what proof you show them they will still lie and make excuses . I found out what kind of person jirad was when he supported frosks unhinged rant on g4tv, no normal person can ever support rhetoric like that.
Someone saying "no due diligence" while doing no due diligence seems like the epitome of Internet interactions 🎉
And Jared no less.
@@ZenoDovahkiin If you've known of Jared this long are you surprised? He revealed himself back when he threw Holly under the bus.
This is exactly why the aliens haven't invited us to the galactic table yet lmaoo
@@frankmarano1118I just want some damn intergalactic barbecue. Shit I'll settle for interplanetary at this point.
@@darkagedrifter Preach my brother, preach
They're doing dementia research. They're researching on what would happen if people found out that they forgot to donate the money.
Ooooh, it's performance art! That explains it.
He needs to do diet research. Dude is hefty af
@@PzShockz 💀
You know who else is doing research on dementia? You know who else is doing research on dementia?
@@PzShockz Well honestly, where do you think some of the charity money was going to? Food for Jirard's gut. 😋
The "we're looking for the right charity" argument looses a lot of weight when the guy is shown listing charities and talking about how much they give them.
That's the misleading part. If they're not acceptable to receive/meet the criteria of your restricted guideline of donation, maybe I dunno... don't mention them?
loses*
@@DvainsWeassel yet you still knew what they meant. no one cares bro.
@@bakabrick People that finished school care.
@@Naptosis they really dont. no lifers care
Projared not doing his research and just making an assumption about people is REALLY funny
Lol that's what they call irony
Sadly that's how humans are if they see there freind getting attacked thell defend him that's just human nature imo. Still a bad take
It's kinda weird considering when all that stuff with Jared went down Jirard completely threw him under the bus... odd that he should be so quick to have the back of someone who didn't have his.
That response is just ProJared being Projared 😂.
@@Metalchip1989projared in thr sailer moon outfit?
The fact that Jirard OPENLY LIED on camera/mic for years about where this money was going, and people are somehow fine with that sickens me.
Glad it ain’t mine 😭😂
I went to check on this to be sure. Jirards language actually never changed from BEFORE he found out the money was not going to charity to AFTER he found out. The list of charities he name drops remain the same. His language remains the same, charities WE work with he says before and after. I don't believe Jirard recently found out. I think he's known from day one. If you found out you were sitting on all the money you thought had gone to these charities. Wouldn't you at least adjust your language to say something like "oh sure we work with charities, yup we're always looking for the best charity to donate to in the future!" Ya know, cover your ass because you were SO SHOCKED to find out the money hadnt been donated?
@@ClayMannI suppose he’s been the CONpletionist all along.
'Lie' is a strong term. Dudes mom died of the disease and made a charity trying to 'cure' it. Having worked in non profits it reeks of good intentioned but naive individual completely ignorant of how difficult these kinds of projects are.
If he was doing this maliciously there's a million ways he could have cloaked the spending and simply pocketed the money. The fact there is no evidence he ever did this absolves him of malicious intent if you ask me. You'd have to really hate this guy to make yourself believe it was some kind of ultra long term con.
I want a professional investigation done because I have a hunch Jirards family was either misleading him to give themselves a yearly income OR they wanted to have so much money they would have the power to indicate how the money is spent.
I'm willing to wait for a professional investigation because although I have immense respect for guys like Mutahar, Coffezilla, Karl etc. People forget their jobs are not to definitively prove guilt or innocence, it is their job to use their platform and passion to point a finger at a house on fire and say, 'ain't it messed up there's smoke coming out of that house and nobodies doing anything about it?
Either results wouldn't surprise me in the least and it also wouldn't surprise me if they do find some evidence of criminal negligence or mismanagement on Jirards fault. The real tragedy is the the internet doing what it always does and obsessing over drama instead of helping the victims.
@@josephmatthews7698I mean the evidence is damning, his statements prove him as untruthful, though your conclusions show some light on the situation, all he needs to do is donate the money too though 😕
It’s weird that they’re saying that they’re still “looking for the right organization,” when their website lists a college as one of the places they donate to. Donate to them! It’s on your website, donate to the people you said you’d donate it to!
Yeah, for me that's the biggest issue with the whole Open Hand thing. They have no problem name-dropping charities each year to raise money, but apparently those charities aren't worthy enough to actually donate to?
@@Randalor exactly. they knew exactly what they were doing the entire time lmao
Yes I'm sure they know and I'm sure that money is gone too. This just looks like a scam and they hope after getting away with it for all these years that no one would catch on to it. Sad and sickening.
@@Randalor Thats one of the main reasons I dont really believe the whole negligence defence. The site very specifically states where they are donating to, with links to do so. Yet when asked where the money is, they say they are still looking for a charity. Who the fuck is on your website then? Why would you claim to give to charities you haven't in the first place? That's what it really boils down to. That shit is suspicious as fuuuck.
Then you add all the stuff with the golf course...
Muta forgot to mention something important: someone from Open Hand tried to take down Karl's video through a privacy claim but CZcams rejected it. Another massive red flag.
Oh that’s sketchy
@@americankid7782 And hilarious. Privacy? You're a 503(1)c - that's how the records were obtained in the first place...
is there even proof???
i hadn't heard about that but jeeeeeeze that's a really bad look on the foundation
@@theawesomeali8834 yes, Karl showed the creator studio page with the claim, with the name of Open Hand on his socials.
Can't post a link that takes you outside of CZcams though, else my comment gets instadeleted, but you can easily find it.
Jared calling you out for apparently only talking shit for clout while only talking shit for clout is almost poetic.
who is jared?
It may not be for clout. Jirard defended him when he was dealing with all the stuff with his ex-wife and the accusations, so Jared may just be returning the favor.
Wasn’t talking shit for clout. Jared is his personal friend and he went in defense mode by default and probably also had a flashback to when he got cancelled. It was a bad take but I highly doubt it was motivated by clout.
Also he gave them a chance to explain his side and included it in his video, so he dug his own grave
Your profile picture is adorable
To those who are saying that people are more upset at Muta and Karl for exposing this than the charity itself: 38k likes on the video vs 631 dislikes at the time of this comment tells me that these people are just a loud, idiotic minority. Kudos to true investigative journalism, you do us all a great service.
You can't see the real number of dislikes
@@notorio526true, but Muda's channel is going to have a more accurate RYD statistic than most other channels due to viewers who are more likely to care about additional statistics. Then again that viewer bias could lead to an underestimation of dislikes as I imagine those with RYD are less likely to dislike actual investigative journalism than random Twitter commenter types who can't be bothered to watch more than 1 second.
It wouldnt be an issue if Jirard said. "Give us your money so we could put it in a box for decades"
So saying it is for anything else, is in fact, fraud
The fact people are more mad that you guys looked into this scam than the scam itself is so bizarre.
They're in the comments defending their video game God
Gamers..am I right😃?
This is the take people should be having fr fr
Because they get a profit from the scam.
Because they might be doing the same scam or involved. Defense mechanism at it's finest
Funny that those who accuse Muta and Karl of not doing due dilligence, are the ones who did not do any due dilligence.
Yeah it's really ironic
Ill be honest, most of them are on (formerly known as) Twitter and I think its mostly just kneejerk reactions, like usual on Twitter. It makes sense on an emotional level.
Many people would have that if a "drama" channel covered their favorite creator or friend who they had no reason to believe was a bad guy, and briefly read over the headlines on the even and it just said stuff like "found documents on the internet about improperly disclosed paper work".
Its easy enough to assume that this is some Keemstar guy.
Obviously this is not the case, but fake cancellations and outrage are so prominent on the internet its easy to assume as much.
Should people check up on this info after, sure. But if its just a tweet I don't really care too much.
People making videos though, yeah, do better.
Damn at this point i'm inspired on how much Mutahar does due dilligence i found his channel very recently and every video he makes he's like me ( do full research or don't talk about it half-baked ) < - i miss people like this in my life.
and thats ok, not everyone has the time to look into these things like a full time youtuber and even so they are still allowed to be skeptical and ask questions. whats the alternative? just blind compliance by every single person? wouldnt this whole situation never come up if everyone just takes people at their word that due diligence has been taken?
@@koollio9724a good resolution would be for people to simply keep their mouth shut unless they’ve done at least a morsel of research into the topic they’re going to publicly critique, no?
Jesus if this isn’t a case of ‘shoot the messenger’ I don’t know what is.
Also pretty eyebrow-raising for the reason to be ‘we want it to go to somewhere that matters’ to immediately ‘just tell me where to donate it, I’ll do it today!!’ like where’s all that conviction gone?
Right? He straight up refuses to donate for a decade and is ready the day people find out. That's some very convenient conviction
@@jetmcgee4218 he also points out that he's aware donating it quickly will spur on the thoughts of "he's only doing it because he was caught." so its very weird for him to pull out that strawman (? not sure if i used the right word) after admitting that.
More shifting responsibility away from himself, which actually somewhat worked. Some people said "well yeah if you want him to donate it why don't you tell him where it should go", which is... not at all the point
Simply put, you cannot say you have worked with people you haven't worked with. You cannot imply money is being used in a certain way if it is not being used in that certain way. Even if it's by accident, it is fraud. Negligence is not an out.
Exactly, I’m not sure what smooth brain logic people are using to give Jirard a pass in this… but they’re missing the point that even when he knew the money was being held he still marketed it as if it wasn’t. You can’t just say “we’re actively helping all these people” yet, you’re not.
The big red flag for me is the fact an ex-dean of an institution wrote a thank you to the charity on behalf of the place after he was fired. That is shady and deceptive no matter how I try to slice it.
>Simply put, you cannot say you have worked with people you haven't worked with.
I believe Amber Herd tried to use this with her "well, I PLEDGED to give them the money, so that means I DID give them the money" defense at trial.
XD
I mean technically its not called fraud if its not intentional. That said, negligent misrepresentation is a thing and is still a civil wrong.
He didn't imply. He explicitly said they worked with those organizations.
US Politicians do it all the time. It's called lip service. Keep the masses at bay and do what you want behind the scenes. Saying something isn't illegal (1st amendment to a degree). Holding the money to find an organization to work with, while stupid and unethical, is not illegal. Now saying you still have the money and we end up findng out the account is empty or the money is going into their pockets, now that's a big no no and will destroy that entire family.
It’s so wild to me that people are seriously upset with you guys, while acknowledging that they didn’t watch your videos in their entirety
"People"? You mean ProJared?
@@Introversion399 I'm sure it's more than just Projared, just based on the multiple reactions from people that were demanding to know why they didn't just ask Jirard about his side of the story.
@@Introversion399uh, no, not just ProJared. Muta specifically mentions at least one other tweet / account who was criticizing them while stating they didn't watch the videos, and it's not even a stretch to assume that there were others besides that who were upset at the story and defending Jirard without even looking at the evidence. Hence, "people".
Welcome to The Internet.
@@Introversion399 so you also did not watch this video as well? How ironic
“You might remember ProJared from several years ago” is like the most subtle yet brutal insult I’ve ever heard. Like it just assumes there’s no way you’ve seen any of his content since then.
Which, at least on my case its true, I dont want to sound like an a**hole but I didnt remember him.
Well, he's right
I don't know if the debacle destroyed his content algorithm-wise or if he just fell off, but it's probably true that statistically, most people watching this aren't gonna have interacted with him since.
I mean.... did he lie though? lol
And highlights the irony of his statement, Jared's career took a massive hit because of people repeating false allegations without knowing what they were talking about, and then he felt the need to do the same thing.
This kinda feels like a, "But he's a good guy" situation. Just because someone is looked on as a good person doesn't mean they can't make up for it when they lie and or screw up.
Doesn't necessarily mean they _are_ a good person, either.
Some criminals even DEPEND on that defense so that even the most definite proof of wrongdoing is called into question. Abusers in particular WANT the defenders to say “He can’t be the bad guy. He’s been a good guy to us” despite the fact that we have proof of the crime being done.
It might even count as a form of emotional manipulation because it depends on defender ignoring logical evidence in favor of positive emotional association to the criminal.
@@insanemindset2667 Exactly.
Especially when its this big of a fuck up. Its a fuck up that brings the moral character of the person into question by how low of a thing to do this is. What else is he lying about? Is there actually money there or has it all gone to his family?
Not even. Everyone is capable of doing shitty things, but not everyone lies to people to steal their charity money. Thats something else.
Jirard was panicking in that call, dude was willing to donate more than half a million dollars to whatever org Muta suggested so quickly, which contradicts Jirard’s reasonings for withholding the money in the first place
he wanted to safe face, the whole time he was concerned about "making a video to make him look like the bad guy"
Seriously. He cared more about his image at that moment than anything else.
Also the fact that what he was worried about was "Looking like a scumbag" and "Being perceived as guilty" instead of "For years all of this money that I raised for a cause that is very personal to me because my mother died of dementia was wasted and that makes me upset since it could've helped so many people in that time"
All he was worried about was not looking bad... not the fact that all of this money raised out of the goodness of his heart was literally wasted, all of that 'good' work did absolutely nothing but his main concern is not looking like more of a scumbag by immediately donating it...
So instead he's just gonna continue sitting on the money so he doesn't look bad, instead of letting it help people :)
@@namegoeshere1 Of course , he does not care about anyone but himself, considering how vehemently he supported frosks rant of g4tv is it really that surprising to learn that he only cares about himself, birds of a flock stick together .
I'm curious if they actually have organizations that they could recommend. What did Jirard do in this case?...Probably still nothing xD
ProJared not watching the video at all is some insane level of Irony I wasn't expecting to see today
Was so quick to the draw that he shot himself in the foot.
@@sniperfi4532 Like he shot his relationship in the back
I'm happy for the 180o (maybe 150o, or 125o?) ProJared made, his line when he came back, "NOBODY asked how I was when it all happened" still hunts me to this day. It was absolute brutal, weirdly, the reaction now is nothing compared to. So sad his reaction now, I expected more.
Didn't know he was still a thing.
@@PanoptesDreamshe has 2 channels, projared and now in the 90s. I actually like the latter
Imagine being one of his "partners" and hear him saying he doesn't trust them to use the money correctly...
Can you blame him for not trust charities? His is a scam, theirs might be too!!!
@@Dre2Dee2so he lies to people, almost claiming all donated money to himself and that makes him still ‘good guy’ for not believing charities? And then listing their names in one of podcasts? WTF?
@@daniilbelenkii6534 i think you missed the joke
Muta and Karl: *Goes into details, laws, checks government filings AND gets Jirard's side of the story, being completely objective*
Twitter "people": "OMG how sad! they just want DRAMA!"
How are these people so braindead they think charity fraud is just some "youtuber drama". Too lazy to even watch 10 damn minutes of a video yet still somehow think it's justified to form a complete opinion on the subject they know literally nothing about.
Social media. IQ has been lowering for some time.
Social media makes the world dumber by the day along with television.
its the age of 'everyones entitled to their opinion', which is the calling card of someone who has nothing to back up their opinion. and for some reason its become an excuse to never have to listen to reason or logic. sad stuff.
Mfs be so terminally online everything is fucking "drama" to them, even possible crime.
A Leon Belmont profile picture eh, I see you're a man of culture as well
It’s sad to see that so many people missed the point. The problem is not that the money is being held, the problem is that jirard isn’t telling everyone that it is. The problem is that jirard is telling people that the money is being donated to these organizations when they are actually just holding the money. The problem is that despite acknowledging that this is a problem, he still held indieland 2023 and told people that they were donating the money to these organizations. It’s also sad that people will immediately disregard anything as drama if it’s between two CZcamsrs, and if the CZcamsr being called in to question is popular, they immediately assume that it’s just to gain fame.
All true, but it's also a problem that the money left there for a decade will have lost like 1\4 of its value. By doing nothing, they already wasted a part of the donations.
agreed. it's a shame that he had to make another video where 90% of it was just saying his initial point again. i don't understand how, if someone watched the original video, they couldn't understand mutahar's point. i thought it was pretty obvious haha
Plus Jirad or anyone being radio silent also makes the whole thing seem even more scummy
@@phaolo6It would have been earning interest in the bank account.
@@PBMS123 i think they might have meant the economic value of that amount of money. $600,000 10 years ago would have gone a lot farther than it does today.
$600,000 USD in 2013 is just shy of $800,000 today with inflation (792,000). So a fair amount of potential value.
Obviously all of the money wasn't there at once right from the start in a lump sum, but letting it just sit there isn't doing it a lot of favours in the long run.
The whole “CZcams Drama” defense is insane cope mechanism. This IS a case of Fraud even if the money is still in the bank because of what Jirard said they have been doing with it for years. Appreciate you and Karl bringing attention to this.
accusing muta and karl of using this for drama is an attempt to deflect blame away from himself.
If you think about it "Tax evasion" is just a form of YT drama
@@jervistetchMadHater "Your honor, you don't understand. The prosecutor is trying to stir up CZcams drama."
This whole situation is so depressing. Jirard was well liked by basically everyone, and for him to be doing charity fraud behind the name of his dead mother. That's just disgusting dude
I didn't know he existed 'til I saw Karl's vid.
It genuinely angers me that people don't do any research before talking about a topic. Worse when they accuse *others* of not doing their due diligence or try to besmirch their character. It legit feels like the people going out of their way to get involved to attack you and Karl are reacting purely with their emotions and nothing else. "I like Jirard, they must be awful people" is the beginning and end of it to these people.
Facts 🔥💯
¡Bienvenido al internet!
Welcome to the culture we live in.
I think its people who are invested into something to much to the point where criticism on that thing be it a game/show/person are taken as personnel attacks
A lot of people trying to defend jirard lemme say something that’ll sink in, He had YEARS to donate this money not days, not weeks nor months he had YEARS to figure out who to donate too and yet he still hasn’t…
He has a DECADE, but decided to continue the charity even if the money isint even donated.
His fanboys and friends can’t be reasoned with, just ignore them.
@@DresdenShuffle Cult members. He did so much damage to the reputation of donating to charity, just what he said he cared about his online look only
Let me ask you this. Why didn't he use the money? Anything spent was fir gaining it, but it was in storage the whole time.
It’s such BS he didn’t know the money was just sitting there too.
He is a director, he is a fiduciary. They need to have board meetings and take meeting notes.
Pro Jared should know better than anyone to not jump into conclusions. You'd think anyway
Yeah but when there's so much evidence now..
Ain't looking good for jirard
@@beansoup8171
Yeah. There was apparently "so much evidence" against him, ProJared, as well and yet he was able to clear his name.
what projared did was still gross and idk why people have let him off the hook for using his position of power to sext his fans, especially when the majority of his fanbase were children.
@@WittyMick03he was candid about it. his honesty about the situation was what earned him his reputation back at the time.
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581Who respects him now?
One of the most disgusting things about this whole ordeal is how Jirard has tainted the memory and legacy of his mother.
That is tragic, almost as if he made her death have no meaning.
It just show that they don't care about their mother. They probably thought they were entitled to some financial compensation for taking care of their sick parent.😢
They used his mother as a bait almost, a bit nauseating honestly
It’s pretty tough to look at Jirard the same way after this. It just sucks ass that, even if his heart is in the right place, he clearly doesn’t understand that he’s just taking money.
He straight up said he doesn’t see it that way on the phone call. Huge bummer.
Hopefully the money gets to where it needs to go, but this information combined w Jirard constantly saying money is tight for the Completionist channel does NOT look good
i was just thinking that while watching this....even giving him a complete benefit of a doubt and he SOMEHOW got everything cleared up (I highly doubt this will happen, this is all so messed up), there is NO WAY that Indieland can continue after this. Imagine starting a charity, in your mother's name to help cure the disease that killed her and messing it up so badly that no one will ever trust./donate again ...
I love how exposing potential fraud is being listed as "drama". That's so crazy.
One could argue Karl only looked into it to start drama but that doesn't exonerate Jirard. I hate how legitimate issues with CZcamsrs will get revealed by people obviously looking to start drama and make themselves look better. Like all the performative outrage at EDP.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Personally I feel like it's weird to worry about that kind of shit when we're talking about crimes like charity fraud and pedophilia, but.. you do you i guess.
@@RainbowWaffles Because those types usually go about it in moronic ways (that idiots that went after EDP basically allowed him to get away with it) and as we just saw from Mamamax, will lie.
"Tax fillings are public you idiot!" lol loved this line!
Naming specific charities and saying you've 'worked' with them (implying that theyve previously made a donation) and not actually donating is insane.
Anyone can make a phone call lol. I “work” with the dmv and my doctor this last week 😂
They can go Amber Turd mode and "pledge"
@@mefikFS🤨?
It's also fraud prima fascia*, and charities have been shut down for it.
*-"on its face" meaning if this happens the court automatically presumes it is fraud unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary.
@@thedangerwich5476 amber Amber Heard pledge to help donate 3.5 million but in the end only 1.2 million was donated
Considering this organization was supposedly founded "In Memory of" their mother, it's really sad that when on their opening webpage, they couldn't even be bothered to remember whether her name was spelled KARREN, or KAAREN.
A charity for dementia, in memory of their mother ... who's very name they apparently forgot to give proper diligence to.
The jokes write themselves...
You can’t be serious
That’s just
@@charmandergamer1287 i really wish it was a joke. (If anyone wishes to check themselves, just google "kaaren" "karren" and look at the description blurb that shows when Open Hand appears at the top of the search results.) The absolute irony of it is so depressing.
@@dimitriwarchief301Sad, disheartening, infuriating, lazy, pathetic...I could go on.
I don't get why it's a bad thing to snoop when you're curious about something. It's public information for a reason
Guys, the Conpletionist is totally innocent here.
He has said this money goes towards families affected by dementia.
...and since his mother died of dementia...
*taps temple
He misspoke. He meant FAMILY affected by dementia....his family.
That's really nice of him. I hope he sent himself a "thank you" card as well!
I thought it was a typo at first but then I realized what you did with his channel name, good 1 sir.
Modern problems require Modern solutions
His rabid fanbase actively dismissing the concerns is just as disgusting imo
Just little kids
Edit: I mean those defending him not in general and It doesn’t matter anyway
@@dampking Yeah 30-40 year old little kids😭
yeah, I grew up loving jirards content, all the way back on screwattack, it just sucks now
I've been a huge fan of his channel since like Episode 20. I was rooting for this all to be a misunderstanding but it's not. It's a huge bummer.
I wouldn't call that disgusting, I'd call it intentional ignorance.
He unlocked the "Fraud" achievement... truly a completionist.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
XD
Soon he will unlock the "Jail" achievement.
@@user-yl7kl7sl1ga buff cat is gonna break down his door soon
"Why tf are you guys looking into and calling out sh*tty behavior with the intent to protect innocent hardworking people?! What's wrong with you?!" Thanks for being an intelligent and cool person Muta; so few YTubers are these days...
This situation is exactly how charities get "scammed". A trusted member of the org collects the money, but instead of making the donations, just squirrels it away somewhere (usually only a small amount at a time) and then makes off with the whole stash after a few years. It happens again and again when people don't have a trustworthy accountant or take a look at their charitable organization. So yes, this IS on Jirard for not looking into this sooner or doing anything with it. If I was a company like say.....For lack of a smaller one coming to mind, Razer. I'm prepared to drop 10,000$ and dedicate a portion of all item sales during that stream to his charity. If someone came up to me and said he had been "waiting to find the right charity" while collecting almost a million dollars? I would immediately back out. And the sad part is - I wouldn't be surprised if some potential sponsors did.
That to me is the true failure - this lack of oversight is probably costing an otherwise noble endeavor even more resources because they lack the means to steward these donations properly and with correct documentation.
Im kinda disappointed in ProJared that he didn't even do any of his own research into this before calling it horseshit, defending a friend or not
"They didn't do due diligence!"
Doesn't bother watching the video
I feel like ProJared instead read news articles that called SOG and Karl Jobst for accusing Jirard of money laundering or something and immediately responded with this. When will people learn to stop reading what news outlets for gaming has to say? They just promoting machines and clout chasers.
The irony...
He threw Jontron under the bus too. He's a worm.
That was the more disappointing thing because I almost did that when he showed his receipts but I still watched and was convinced he was innocent
The blame is on Mutahar for not adding a Subway Surfer run on the bottom part of the his video. Should've done due diligence on Jirard's fanbase.
You gotta have Subway-surfers on the bottom, Minecraft Parkour on the top, and whatever song TikTok likes at the moment playing it the background.
On a different note, every time I hear "Projared", I want a $5 footlong 😮
@@zap7759 hopefully you dont want any mini subs
@@maklame3318Dont worry MiniLadd has those covered.
@@americankid7782and some ai generated subtitle generator that gets every 5th word wrong
If you're looking for a counter of how many times Muta said "again" or "and again", I did the counting for you. It's 72. You're welcome.
🎉 thanks
Can you do a count of how many times he pulls the front of his hoodie down? Thanks, you’re doing god’s work
@@anthonybarnett5682 haha i noticed that as well. It's just a nervous habit I have a friend who does the same thing when he talks to people
Get a job.
@@anthonybarnett5682 22 times on camera 1 time off camera
It's pretty damn telling that most of the detractors can only complain about supposed clout-chasing as opposed to the actual concerns being raised. The way I saw this was as a potential concern being raised by Muta and Karl to someone close that could actually look into it (Jirard). Instead, it was immediately treated as an accusation and all defenses went up
For all his complaining about the optics of the situation, Jirard would really have it much easier by just doing the thing he said he was going to do and donate the damn money. It can only get worse from here.
It's funny how often people will ignore facts when a situation is about someone they like but we're lucky to have people like Muta, Karl and Coffee who are always willing to stick their necks out there to do what's right and hold people accountable.
Fuck yes
Given the era we live in the kids that are poorly raised by parents that don't teach important values and lessons, it's not surprising people would defend something without trying to research, because they don't want to be the next kid to say, "say it isn't so." People who enjoyed Jirard's video likes him so much, that he became some example of a person they strive to be. And you can't expect all of them to be quick on critical thinking as you. I should know, I was a kid once.
@Mcdigits You made me laugh! That level of confidently incorrect/passionately wrong is _incredible!_ I just hope you & the many, many others under the same verifiable misconception can laugh about it.
@@leon4000 the research is _substantially_ incomplete in ways which makes it a laughable effort & waste of time. Laughable because to reach their conclusions, Open Hand Foundation would have to be based outside of California & above the $1M threshold. Open Hand Foundation is based in California & well below that audit threshold.
Until Muta or Karl clearly indicate the CAGGTC was part of their research for this specific "investigation" -- I'm struggling to believe they even know it exists.
They are so wrong, yet it's seemingly all because - to them - the California Attorney General's Guide to Charities is an unknown, unknown.
Also: I'm open to there being a real problem with Girard holding funds. So far as I can tell, the sum total is less than $750,000 -- meaning there's no crime or moral failing.
Who knows. This is peak Ad Sense season. We may find out in a month or two that this was a collaboration to teach people how to evaluate unrated charities before making a donation; media literacy is a skill, after all.
@@kneau That's Wonderful! Please feel free to enlighten all of us on the many ways we lack understanding of this points. I'm always a fan of a good chuckle.
If he did end up spending the money it’s an absolute travesty and complete disrespect towards his mother and the entire reason why he started the charity. Disgusting.
at this point I wouldn't be shocked if his mom was alive and well
Also fraud, it would be charity fraud
"Disgusting"... if true. But that's pure speculation at this point.
@@television9233wouldn’t be speculation if he would actually respond instead of going silent for a week. Really makes him look above board
It's fraud!
To everyone who is running to the Completionist's defense, I only ask you this: If Jirard is not guilty of anything, then why is he acting guilty as shit?!
All Mutahar and Karl did is ask him one simple question: "Why didn't your donate the money like you said you did?"
What Jirard and the foundation did was _immediately_ start covering their asses in dubious lawyerspeak and Jirard spewing complete and self-contradictory bullshit in that call they had. Then right after this he tried to _fraudulently_ get the videos removed, and when that failed he just completely clammed up. Not a peep from Jirard or his -mafi- organization ever since. No statement, no "hey guys, we are working on a response" or even "Hey we are donating all this money to [charity]", nothing.
The question right now is: Did he or did he not know where the money was for a DECDADE? IF he did not, that's gross negligence _at best_ . If he DID know, it's plain fraud.
He was constantly soliciting charitable donations using his dead mother's suffering and constantly namedropping organizations he apparently never worked with and _demonstrably_ never gave a single cent to. That's fraud. Even if the money is still there (which is _very_ doubtful at this point) that means the foundation did absolutely *nothing* for ten years. So what did all those tens of thousands of dollars of "administrative costs" go to? Clearly not towards facilitating dementia research, so...what?
Mutahar and Karl didn't accuse anyone of anything, they just pointed some very relevant questions, to which we do not have _any_ answers so far. So anyone questioning their motives I suggest to ask Jirard to answer for these before casting the first stone. You know, due diligence n stuff...
And then he tried to put it back on them with that 'what do you want me to do to make this right?' Like bruh, it is not Muta or Karl's job or responsibility to help you fix your shit, and it's flat out slimy and manipulative to even say it.
In summary
Lied to viewers
Lied to companies and major donators
Lied to Muta in the call
Lied on the website about working with companies before they even existed
Are we seeing a pattern here?
I think we are.
What bothers me most is that Jirard used his mother’s name, it’s such a vile thing because although I didn’t donate it makes it much more probable that people will donate money.
@@elif6908 Exactly, that irked me something fierce, using her own dead mother's suffering, that's just low.
Let's take a more measured look at this situation.
It's easy to jump to conclusions when someone reacts defensively, but being defensive isn't necessarily a sign of guilt. People can respond in all sorts of ways under pressure, especially when their reputation is at stake. It doesn't automatically mean they're guilty of something.
Regarding the lawyerspeak and contradictory statements, it's pretty standard for individuals and organizations to be cautious in their communication when legal matters are involved. It might come off as evasive, but often it's about being careful not to say anything that could be misinterpreted or used against them in a legal context.
The silence from Jirard and his organization can be frustrating for those looking for answers, but it's not uncommon for people to withhold comment while they're figuring out the best way to respond. It doesn’t prove anything by itself.
The accusations about misusing charitable donations are serious, and if there's truth to them, that's definitely concerning. However, it's important to remember that these are still accusations at this stage. Without concrete evidence, it's unfair to treat them as facts.
In terms of administrative costs, it's valid to question where the money has gone, especially if it's a significant amount. Transparency in financial matters is crucial for any organization, particularly a charitable one.
While Mutahar and Karl have raised some important questions, it's crucial to approach the situation with a mindset of seeking the truth, rather than jumping to conclusions. It's always better to wait for more information before forming a definitive opinion on the matter.
Can't wait for Jirad to 100% his prison sentence
What i get stuck on is the repeated implication that they had already been actively working with various organizations while sitting on the money.
Those statements in particular will look pretty damning if fraud charges end up hitting. It is tough to reconcile those statements with his admission that he already knew none of the money had been donated
Yeah, like he could’ve literally just been honest about it.
Like if all there is to them not donating the money, is that with a “small” donation you can’t avoid it going to the CEO’s pockets/administration expenses etc, they could’ve simply explained it to the audience during the events.
“our goal is to reach 1 million dollars, that way we can make sure all the money we donate are going towards dementia research, right now we are at 500.000$, i hope in a couple of years we’ll be able to finally do something great with this money, we already know who we would like to back up”
Like i’m sure a lot of people would’ve still donated
Lmao you believe they have the money. It's more than likely been spent on a lavish lifestyle. It's funny how people continue to believe liars. You probably still believe the sob story about his mom dying don't you?
@@user-yl7kl7sl1gThat kind of confidence you've got can go straight into overconfidence. Still, it's not the first time something does get revealed that shows malicious motives and it doesn't help that some content creators jump into things without a plan or intentionally intend to steal from others. The silence from Jirard to most people already feels daunting enough to assume the worst has happened. But we aren't detectives, and can be wrong. This is why I still attempt to get all the details necessary before I judge.
I just vex the idea that people assume and judge quickly what's happened based on previous stuff that happened before to points of arrogance.
@@user-yl7kl7sl1g Right now there is no reason to disbelieve that his mom died from what he has said. In fact that story, whether truth or lie, has absolutely no bearing on the issue at hand - is the money that was donated still sitting there? And why has it not been properly donated as was the public expectation throughout all of the fundraising? Sure it is possible that the money has been embezzled and used for personal expenses, but if that is the case then it won't be that hard to bring it to light with a criminal investigation. We live in an era where every dollar you collect and spend can be traced electronically. If they did misappropriate the money for personal use then it will come to light because that shit is going to be hard to hide. You might be able to cover up a bit of fraud, but that much fraud will show with even a cursory audit.
This isn't youtube drama, its investigative journalism at its finest.
Yeah, this is way more serious than just "drama".
It can be both at the same time and it most definitely is.
The way they did research, collected actual evidence, and gave him time to respond before publication are all the staples of ethical investigative journalism.
This is what professionalism looks like.
That's the idea, calling it drama aims to discredit the person and by extension their points.
Yeah, but journos bad.
Damn, now I'm kinda curious about what tipped the informant to check the charity. But hey, that's how anonymity works and it's clear here that its needed. Thank you for the great work you two did bringing this to people's attention!
I love how easy it is to point out people who haven't seen the video they're actively criticizing. It's very telling.
Baffling how people say this is "drama". Dude, this is crime.
It’s beyond drama. When something becomes crime there is no drama.
For reference I've never heard of this "completionist" person. I don't think there is a crime here, the funds are still there and the money spent internally is not even close to embezzlement territory. However, its a huge red flag for future potential criminality. If nobody noticed it for X years then the intention may have been to steal it. That's the problem here though, the money is supposedly still in trust with the organization.
Crime can be pretty dramatic.
i just had to imagine the judge sitting down in the courtroom and be like "whaaaaat is up drama alert nation? i'm your host killer judge!".
@@CommanderRiker0I don't think embezzlement was the accusation but charity fraud.
Something I've not seen mentioned about the interview with jirard. It's pretty easily heard that there's someone off screen giving answers. The few hours of prep was probably getting notes down and the like of getting their story straight, and the time of when he found out might have been amended after realizing that wasn't the narrative they wanted to push.
Yeah, sounds like he's on speakerphone or just that someone is close saying things in the background. That much is clear. Your comment needs more upvotes for visibility's sake!
He cooked
When I heard that, I thought it was just an echo but now that you mention it you're totally right!
Honestly, I'm surprised there isn't a CZcams channel out there that specifically goes through and looks at every CZcamsr charity for stuff like this. It seems like easy tea to spill.
Not everyone is in the same country
While it may be this easy in the US it might not be as easy in other countries.
Comments keep coming in "Why not talk to Jirard?" FFS, THEY DID!!!
It's still *EXTREMELY WEIRD* He hasn't said anything yet, im willing to bet a lawyer flipped out and told him to go dark until they have everything in order
yeah that's my bet, lawyer told jirard not to go on a call but he did anyway and now the situation is a lot more difficult for them
Not very weird then, is it?
@@MC-9yea
I disagree. A coward wouldn't make a comment, period. Not until it became a thing that he couldn't run from. Then he'd have to do something.
Well, Mutahar and Karl's vids were tried to be taken down remember? Jirard's side knew this would be go messy
They said the money was used, and the money was not used. That is called lying about charity money.
Same with invoking all those authoritative sounding names of universities and foundations but apparently they're not acceptable to send money towards? That's very misleading to his audience and everyone. Literally asking Jobst and Co. if they know any good places to donate towards but yet invoking the names of USCF, et al... is a terrible look. Extremely misleading.
Also "Do you know of anyone we can give the money to?" is akin to "Can you do my homework?" -- maybe don't collect money if you don't have a place to give it towards in the first place?!
@@PaulieMcCoy Plus the fact that they've been going like this for *_almost a decade._* I'd be willing to believe Jirard really didn't know the money was gathering dust because they missed some steps or were sabotaged by a third party or somesuch... if this whole issue was recent. I can't honestly believe Jirard and his crew were all "oh whoopsie! We didn't know the money wasn't going through to the charities! Silly us!" *_for so many years._*
By this point, even simple negligence would've piled up into a catastrophically bad look on them, but it's not looking like just negligence, anyway. Shit appears, looks, smells, feels, and tastes sus af.
@@Maverick2736i think its his brother and jared just found out recently. But idk
The defense that "the IRS hasn't come after us so its legal" is bull. The IRS has done so, but every case i can find the charity in question had been commtting violations for 10 years at least. And in some cases for over 30.
The wheels of justice grind slowly.
To that accountant who says that $600k is a small amount of money. Sure, if you’re the American Red Cross… but a nonprofit supposedly being run by a guy, his brother, and father? Please…
they literally said "this is who we donated your money to" in videos for YEARS it's too late to say "we wanted to make sure the right person got the money" they've spent it
This.
It is still defrauding donors to claim their money is going somewhere it isn't.
Exactly. The whole “we don’t want a CEO to get this money” bs argument people are making on his behalf makes no sense when the man himself is saying that this money should of been donated by now and would of if he was paying more attention
@@SleepyRainTraineven if a portion goes to the CEO, like who cares??? The rest of the money is still going to a good cause that it was supposed to benefit. Its still a positive.
they spent it in a smart way they took out loans against whats there so it can't be withdrawn the bank holds it until the loan is paid in full
@@Aaron-zu3xnIs that legal?
The worst part to me is, (if there is something legally shady going on here) they're doing this using the name of his dead mother.
Her name is already tarnished even if this is just a fuckup and not malicious.
You don't understand, his mother's dying wish was for them to use her name and story to pad the family bank accounts through BS charity salaries.
There’s a reason he hasn’t made a statement yet, strategy. It’s like what happened to ProJared. Guy gets caught with infidelity and the whole sending nudes to fans thing and his rep tanks and his channel flatlines. Then someone accuses him of sending the pics to minors. That becomes the topic and everyone focuses on that for months until they believe that was the initial problem. Then he makes a vid proving those specific accusations false and makes his triumphant return. Even though the original problem wasn’t dealt with, because nobody remembers it, too focused on the pedo accusations
People are already spreading that The Completionist embezzled money, even pointing to his recent “buy every 3ds and WiiU e shop game” to support the theory… all without actual evidence. All he has to do is wait for the conversation to switch from “he at best misled, at worst committed fraud,” to “he embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars.” Then he just has to come out, show he never embezzled, talk about the evils of cancel culture coming after him without evidence, and that’s that! Even though the original issue was never addressed, he makes a comeback and everyone cheers him on.
i was wondering what made this investigation start. Tipping off is interesting af. Somebody in the charity might have snitched on them and made you guys look into it
whoever tipped off Karl
is an ABSOLUTE LEGEND
Lol can you imagine if it was projared
I think after so many years only one person, who actually knew how to research this looked into it before donating and found out.
Whoever this person was also knew his voice alone would drown on social media so he tipped a bigger youtuber off who works in that space and Karl is known to uncover frauds.
Just my guess
@@CJ96633 My theory is it could be Greg? He did split from the show due to money reasons. Maybe he knew.
The fact that his mom passed away and suffered from dementia and he said they made this charity bc of that and then them not donating any money is beyond disgusting
He just "forgot" to give the money to the charity
I don't know... I find the fact of making a charity to something like dementia only because someone close to you suffered from it is kinda scummy to begin with. Like wow way to trying to make this charity about you.
Fitting though, no?
@@diegomedina9637bro what?
@@KvngLeroy1i kinda get what they mean. In this case especially, I think we may be dealing with a special brand of narcissist (Jirard) 😮
Man, they really do need to do more dementia research- that’s a lot of money to just forget about lol
I see what ya did there. Well played sir. Well played. 🤔😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 you win comments section
Dude really was collecting money like an idle game he forgot to open several years later
According to the 7.5+2 years accountant that is tiny amount of money that can do jacksh*t.
@@river559 playin that shit like cookie clicker
Muda, don't forget time is a resource. People who donated years ago thought their money was going twords research. I even thought my money was going twords a cure in my lifetime. That money I donated went twords sitting in a bank for 10 years, it didn't help anyone.
Fan comes from "Fanatics", these people don't think, these people do not analyze, fans just support whatever irrationality and defend their celebrity xDD
Jirad is wrong for lying and PERIOD! No one is saying that he is stealing, these clever folks just pointed that the money is sitting there and the completionist (Jirad) is LYING ABOUT IT!!
PS: Fans are the worst when it comes to defend wrongess and bullsh1t.
Calling Muta discount Keemstar may be one of the funniest things I've heard recently
"Jirard can't have done a bad thing! He's a good guy!" Apparently we're back in 2008 where we don't believe our favorite celebrities do bad things.
I say it again... never donate to someone who then proceeds to say he will donate the amount to charity... always donate to the charity directly without the money going through a middleman.
I don't understand how people are not upset about their money being used against what they were donating to. It is almost as if people are okay with throwing away their money instead of funding dementia research with all this backlash.
1.) I don’t understand holding a charity fundraiser without having the charity identified
2.) Why does it take 10 years to identify said charity
Him and his family are thieves maybe? I dunno just a guess.
Because they had to make up a lie. They've been conning people out of their money for ten years. The money is probably gone.
think it is real just not working
"We work with USCF, the Alzheimer's Alliance, the Clan of the Closing Fist... also Jobst & Mutahar, do you know anyone who would be worthy of receiving the money? We don't know anyone who meets our stringent criteria!" THEN WHY USE THE NAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!?!
Because it's a scam.
Ironic how transparent Mutahar is being about everything given how Open Hand and Jirard are handling the situation
It's so disheartening to hear this story, having been avid watcher of the Completionist over the years. It's evident from reading the tax filings; the call (which your right was the worst move!); and seeing/hearing other CZcamsrs comment that negligence has occurred here or at least enough for the IRS to investigate the charity.
The smart move would be to lawyer up; donate the money; and issue a statement (which I imagine is going to come). However I feel its going to be difficult to come back from this, due to the legality of the matter.
Thanks SOG and Karl for bringing this into light!
Standard ProJared behavior.
Ironic that Jirard has a rating of "donate it" for bad games, yet he doesn't donate himself 😂
He uses will and did synonymously i guess.
@@m4nt1c0r3s😭😭😭
Why does he invoke UCSF and other names of organizations if the charity itself has never donated to them? That's one of the weird parts..
This, it is weird. He said it himself that he doesn't find any that satisfied him to donate to but he keep repeating other Orgs as if he already working with them
Based on the email response, sounds like they did a donation at one point to one of the organizations, years ago, and they’ve used it as an excuse to say “we work with them” - even though no funds from the recent fundraisers were being disbursed. Lying by omission sort of thing
@@bregowineThe donation was personal (likely the mom) and done before the foundation as established. Open hand itself has never donated anything.
My theory is that he personally (or by the charity, but that should have shown up in the filings) donated something to them. This would allow him to skate by on a technicality "well I donated 25$ way back when my mom got sick" or whatnot.
I dearly hope that the issue is simply that the family couldn't agree which charity to donate to, and Jirard just went "welp, I'mma peace out and keep plugging away, you lot decide what to do with it."
As time passes without any statements, though, the suspicion starts to grow that maybe someone did embezzle the money. Maybe taking a small amount to start with, to compensate them for the work they did for the charity. Then they used it for a trip, which might even be related - "hey, we're visiting X and checking in on charity Y, that makes it OK to have the charity pay for it right?" Then the brakes come off, the spending snowballs and now they can't pay back what they've taken.
Jirard finds out (hopefully after the videos turn up the heat on him to check in on the foundation), but doesn't want to throw a family member under the bus on social media and definitely doesn't want the justice system involved because it might mean jail time and/or the person(s) in question losing their jobs.
That's the story that my brain came up with to explain why Jirard hasn't explained it, and has tried to deflect without being directly at fault for the money not being donated to some charity. Now, could he have been embezzling himself? Sure, that's possible, although I think it's unlikely. Had he wanted to grab it, there are ways - make another company/foundation, preferably in another country, donate the money from Open Hand to the second one because "finally we found someone worth working with", have the second company donate the money to Jirard and then either just hang around, doing nothing or shutting it down.
TL;DR: I think there's an issue with some of the family blocking donations, perhaps because they do want the money to go to the specific condition that the mother had, or because they've embezzled it. I think Jirard knew or suspected this was the case, but didn't know for sure until a certain point in time (maybe late 2022, maybe just now). I think Jirard doesn't want to make public what happened, either because it looks bad, or because it will have really bad consequences for someone in his family.
I've been an officer and board member of several non-profit organizations -- including serving as Treasurer. At each meeting, the Treasurer prepares and submits a report of the finances of the org, provides at least a high-level summary of the numbers, and the Board is required to approve the report (or potentially send it back for revision and approval at a subsequent date).
Was Jirard really so incurious that he just approved each Treasurer's report without even looking at any of the numbers...month after month...year after year?
How are people missing the entire point that Jirard has been saying, for years that the charity has been donating to other charities for years - even after Jirard had said that he became aware of it. Yes I get that it sounds weird if you change up that speech that it can make people confused what you're trying to do.
But he's claimed, that 600k has gone into HELPING PEOPLE and it HAS, NOT, at this point. And I don't care how they want to excuse it "We're trying to find the right one" and "We want to make sure it's not going to a CEO"- it's been 9 years and 2+ of those he's known about this. Yes it's not STRICTLY on him, but there's so much WTF is going on and NO explaining it beyond the worst excuses they could feed people after 9 years.
This isn't drama, this is serious.
I did caregiving for someone with dementia & aphasia- my own mom. And seeing a situation where someone has been holding on to this much money that could have gone into research for this, long?
That's not drama to me, this news that people have not been honest about donations and money should not go to their charity till this gets cleared up because this looks awful and as far as I know? Nothing has improved but only gotten worse.
I am amazed how Jared butt into something and then created one of the worst takes yet.
He probably saw one of the few people who stood by him getting flamed, got emotional and wrote first thing that came to his mind.
It was a bad take, but I doubt it came with any kind of malice, just lack of thought.
It's still pretty laughable take regardless
Him sucking up to Jirard, when Jirard threw him under the bus, whe he had problems of his own..
@@nihili4196 Add to that the fact he's gone through those allegations bullshit which is enough to scar a man for life. A bad take indeed but as you said not from any kind of malice but from the still open wound of his trauma
Especially knowing how he got into trouble because of people who made worst kind of accusations he is doing right now. That a level of irony and inability to learn from own worst experiences I didn't expect from him.
Ikr, unfortunately he did what a lot of people do on twitter: get outraged over a headline but not even bother to do 10 minutes of research into what you’re actually mad about.
The cringe “poor-me” attitude he had while on the call with y’all is gonna stay with me
That's the most troubling thing about this so far. We don't know all the facts yet, but why is he acting so defensive?
I really wish people couldnt leave comments if they dont watch the video.
Man, I hope to never have ProJared attempt to defend me on anything. I would just have to admit that I was wrong.
You do know that Jirad would later defend him after what was going on in 2019, he's not perfect but we can't blame him for defending him
Do worry guys, he "pledged" to donate so it's all good
😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅
"I use pledge and donate synonymously."
Nice one. Becoming a vintage meme now.
Gotta love the amber herd defence
I've HEARD that one somewhere previously.
When the best case scenario is that you end up looking like a complete fool, you’re really in a pickle
"Your honor, my client pleads 'oopsie daisy'."
@@TheTundraTerror
"He kinda did a 650k fucky wucky, but forgive and forget?"
@@TheTundraTerror "Looks like I picked a bouquet of oopsie daisies.
"You are accused of committing a doo-doo, how do you plead?"
"Not goo-goo gaa-gaa, your honor."
Another 10 days still zero answers
Everyone else watching the video: "Omg i cant believe this. The completionist is so wrong for lying to us for all these years."
Me: "Is that a copy of persona 4 golden for PS vita on his desk?"
I strongly suspect that there hasn't been an official statement because Jirard and the Open Hand Foundation are consulting with a lawyer. Which for the record is absolutely the wise thing to do considering the situation.
Even so, letting this fester all week has been horrific PR and I say that as a longtime subscriber of Jirard's.
I assume a family member dipped into the funds as a loan and it would look bad to do a partial donation.
Regardless of whether the money is gone or not the biggest issue i have is this. Jirard knew last year they werent happy with the charities they had looked at. Then on streams he starts rhyming off these charities to motivate donations knowing full well the money isnt going to them. Thats the part for me that isnt right. You dont get to use those names to get people to donate knowing the money isnt going there. All while saying its going there
This, this, this.
So many people didn't pick up on this either. I think Muta tried to underline it better in this video but he didn't really hit the mark very well and should have just directly pointed this out.
Also, how can he say or imply that he's any kind of benefactor when he knew at this time that the money hadn't even remotely benefitted any of these organizations he namedropped?
That's literally charity fraud. And even if he wanted to donate to a proper cause, he is now forced by his own statements to donate to the organizations he mentioned if he doesn't want to fall in the definition of charity fraud
I have one question now: do the mentioned organizations have any ground foe legal actions, since they've been mentioned time and time again, but haven't received any money?
@@Retro_Rainer Yea probably. It's likely considered fraud if you think about it; you've been accepting money from people under the guise of fundraising with these organizations that you haven't donated a cent of that fundraised amount to.
All those organizations would need to prove in civil court is that people donated under the belief or due to being told that the money donated (or a portion of it) was to go to their organization.
The people who donated could also take it to civil court for the same reason and they would probably see more success in doing this than banking on one of these organizations taking them to court. Considering the scale it looks to have gone to you could possibly be looking at a class action lawsuit if donators decide to go through with this course of action as well since many people were affected.
Could be he's scared to come out and say they haven't found anyone and the donations stop. Could be the money's gone and he wants more money. Could be a lot of things. It'll come out eventually what's going on.
If you’re one of the charities that Jirad has claimed over the years to raise money for, but have received nothing, it must be pretty rough to hear him state ‘at this point I’m willing to donate it anywhere’.
It's funny that he's spent years evaluating charities to find the right partnership, but now he's had enough and just wants to get rid of the money and send it to anyone. That is bizarre logic.
Yet another example of a fanbase unwilling to accept that their idol isn't some untainted saint just because they've developed a parasocial relationship with them. Jirard is a normal human capable of doing shady things. He's not special just because you watch all of his videos and "he seems like a good guy."
He's just some schmoe CZcamsr, what makes people think Jirard is providing any value to moving money to where it needs to go?
@@CubicIronPyrite what ?
I wonder if, behind the scenes, somebody is desperate to find $655,000.
We can't say for sure of course, but to me all the signs point to not only charity fraud, but also tax fraud. I don't think the money was there. Did Jirard stole it? maybe. But it could be that his family has been dipping into that fund for all these years. To me it just made sense that Jirard would've shown the bank statements during that call to clear everything up, especially since he obviously hadn't talked to any lawyers yet at that point (because a lawyer would tell you to STFU the very first second they hear about the issue)
Thats what I'm thinking. Jirard's always branched out into other projects, and I'm afraid thats where he got the funds from
They money is probably gone. They'll keep making up lies unless the police get involved.
So many lies… fake quotes in their website, fake sponsorship. Oh for ten years he didn’t know it wasn’t being donated? Common
Even if it's all legally okay with holding the money, they still lied every year in their event about donating money. I can save my own money and donate it, I don't need some youtuber to do that for me and lying to my face about it.
I find it wild that people are mad that this is being looked into, and that a handful of people, including Projared, didn't bother to actually watch the full video where Jirard was reached out to. This is low-key funny.
The funniest part is that Jared didn't even _need_ to watch the full video - the call with Jirard is mentioned and actually shown 10-15 minutes in.
It tells you a lot about how a majority of people work. Most of them just go with their feelings, if they want to admit or not, and if they're lucky they might come to their senses after some time has passed. Unfortunately, a large part will just stick their heels in the sand, and rationalize their initial decision as they don't want to come across as inconsistent.
Tbf nobody should be paying attention to ProJareds opinion anyway
High key funny tbh ong fr
@@geoffdb8118 no 🧢
Ironic, he could complete any game he put his mind to yet he couldnt complete the task of being a decent human being
Ouch… even I felt that.
He thinks people will forget it’s only been a decade since the money was given lol
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no money has been given @@TheFruitingChamber
@@WayStedYouhe means since the money was given to the thief.
I can bet almost anything that all the money is not there. It maybe half or something but I can bet that that 600k is not sitting on some bank account. If that money was there...this would have been a very simple fix and jared wouldn't sound soo freaked out on the call. He literally mentioned it over and over again without anyone asking if the money was still there