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- Draymond Green was asked about how these Boston Celtics stack up compared to facing LeBron in past Finals. The Golden State Warriors' forward said quote: 'It doesn't compare mentally playing against LeBron James, who I think is arguably the smartest guy to ever play this game..and so to say that it compares to that, it's disrespectful to LeBron and it's a lie to you.' Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe share whether they would think any less of the Warriors' title (if they win) because they did not beat the King.
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This has to be the dumbest question ever….even the trolls can’t think up a question like this 😭
The ones who's been indoctrinated by skip would!
U casual saying is dumb
With that logic every championship before 2003 doesn’t count
the lakers played no defense they were horrible
@DB L comment on Lebron
One of the dumbest questions ever asked in the history of this show. Skip is shameless 😭😭😭
He's a shameless troll. And proud to be
This question is so beyond unbelievably stupid
He doesn’t decide the questions…..
@@Netsfan24 bro u dont think they have a hand in the topics? U r dilusional
Of course he picks the topics, he’s an executive producer of the show. He’s said as much on his podcast.
I visibly laughed when I saw this title🤣
my first reaction was "wtf"😭
Me too! I was like "who came up with this BS" 😂😂😂
They must be running out of topics
We all know its Skip. I could care less who wins this chip but these titles are absurd
Skip chose this topic just for him to throw shots at LeBron, Curry, Draymond, and Tatum all at the same time.
Now that i think about that , it’s a genius question
Basically
Skips a hater
Skip bayless hating iq is second to none 😂
Too bad he couldn't find a way to throw Luka in there
Bruh we're in Game 6 of the NBA Finals and they're still finding dumb ways to put Lebron in it 😭
You watching one segment out of a 2 hour show🤦♂️
@@3nim3nimabl3 This is the dumbest segment they could’ve came up with is the point he’s trying to make.
@@cjsmith1058 facts and bron my favorite player
@@Malik_22 every sports show about basketball in the last decade will definitely talk about LeBron. It's like if these shows existed in the 90s , they would only be talking about jordan .
@@rakshanpurandhar7446 I know it's annoying
Skip basically proved Shannon's point. He called OKC the "Baby Thunder", yet that same Thunder team won 4 straight games to knock his Spurs after going down 2-0.
They were young.
Literally 23/22 years old. I think the oldest key guy was perk who was barely lebron's age.
@@Christopher._M That they were, but Skip only throws that out because LeBron beat them in the Finals. They were young the whole time they made it out of the Western Conference, which back then was way tougher than the East.
@@Christopher._M where is the excuse for lebron being young when he faced the spurs in 07… stop
@@Christopher._M ok, in that sense how come Bron never gets that same courtesy for his finals loss in 07 to a legendary spurs team with the Cavs
@@wentwonn1668 no one has ever killed him for that.
If they did more people would have knows he completely sucked in that series.
What does the 2022 NBA Finals have to do with LeBron James? This is so ridiculous. Talk about the Warriors or the Celtics. Not about how it relates to a player whose team didn’t even qualify for the playoffs. With all due respect to LeBron James, but why does everything start and stop in the news with him. Have some respect for the players who worked hard to get to this point right now. It’s sickening how much LeBron lives in their heads rent-free. 😤
the lakers are horrible
the Celtics actually play defense the cavs in 2018 didn't play defense in the finals
They need views
@@ricardolozano5356 they were comparing them to a healthy 2015 Cavs team, not 2018.
it's crazy right
Skip: "KD carried them to two championships"
Shannon: "Well why can't he carry his damn self"
You need good teammates to get the job done.. See LeBron first Finals against Spurs
@@jvtopflight796 how tf does a team with KD and Kyrie get swept? I dont care what team you put infront of them, those two should be able win you ATLEAST one game any series
@@leetraviusmckay2.066 You can say that about many teams of the past.. LeBron got Swept and MJ.. KD is not greater than anyone of those guys.. So what is your point
@@leetraviusmckay2.066 Iverson won one game against the Shaq and Kobe Lakers.. So are you talking down upon KD LeBron MJ etc for being swept before??
@@jvtopflight796 brother Im not talking about KD alone. I said KD AND Kyrie. Maybe two top 10 offensive weapons of all time. The time Kobe got swept or Lebron in 07 neither had a teammate like Kyrie theres a clear difference
Any team that didn’t beat jordan will have an asterisk! -skip
😂😂😂😂😂
The team that beat Jordan in 95 got swept by Hakeem in the Finals
@@cjtalksmovies467 And Hakeem never did anything the rest of his career.
@@Emma-dh1lx MVP, 2 Time Defensive Player of the Year, and back to back champion
@@cjtalksmovies467 What did he do AFTER his LAST title 🤔
Shannon absolutely cooked Skip in this segment. I’ve never seen anything like it.
"Never seen anything like it!" LOL indeed
I told y'all if the Warriors win another championship without KD then skip's "KD saved GS" narrative will be no more
In fact,he saved them twice from lebron
And he’s still spewing that same nonsense smh
@@lixondarvish7334nope, the warriors saved kd
So Skip thinks KD Vs Giannis was 1 on 5 but LeBron Vs KD was “head to head”? 😂😂😂😂😂
He has the best drug dealer in history
Bron had Ky and Love.. It was a 3 Vs 4.. Draymond really don't count on offense
@@jvtopflight796 DPOY yeah counts regardless.
@@bigpimpen1000 lol 😂😂
@@jvtopflight796 you a kd fan I see 😂😂 you can be an objective fan
Shannon: "We've never criticized or undermined a player like Steph Curry, for winning"
Skip literally does this for every player he hates
like who for championship
Skip hates today's NBA stars
@@racquelholness169 literally lebron James he always says it’s a Mickey Mouse ring
Skip just said Kd carried the warriors to 2 titles 🤣🤣🤣
An asterisk for beating whoever was put in front of them? Nah I don’t think so
They tried to do it in 20 , wit tha lakers cuz tha clippers, bucks got beat lol
@@mylestonah_kruezeeznk8214 according to five thirty eight, the lakers faced a weaker first round opponent, second round opponent, and WCF opponent than any of the warriors five year finals run.
Dragic and Adebayo were out in range finals as well and from this years ECF we can see that a team that Butler had to carry just isn’t a championship caliber team.
Not trying to discredit that championship because all championships are decided by healthiness to a certain degree, but the narrative of “LeBron showed he can also win in the Wild West” is false simply because that western conference in 2020 isn’t anywhere near the western conference in any season of the 2010s.
@@joshuachang5210 lol, sure they did but everybody was saying they was gonna lose to those same teams, when the playoffs rolled around
@@joshuachang5210 lakers still beat those teams in the regular season tho and ended the season with back to back wins against the bucks and clippers. Your point? 🤓
@@ghini1987 They’re casuals. Portland was never that good (and playoff Dame is overrated), Houston had a Russ that’s not as hot after COVID, and Denver gave them some challenges but not enough when LA is healthy. The Heat would’ve won if they got their personnel together though
I remember after game 1 of the finals, everyone had Celtics in 5 but now Celtics are “super flawed” or “no point guard” 😂 what happened to “the match ups are perfect??”
hindsight/trash talk.
What was the espn percentage again??? 🤔
@@eduardoharoproductions3065 86% Celtics
We can always count on Skip to regurgitate the same 2016 points to hate on Steph. It doesn’t matter how much success he has, once Skip has switched up on you, that’s it. I hope the Warriors win it tonight to end this silly discussion (at least for awhile)
You are 100% it’s like lebron 2011 . Once if you have a bad series it’s over . Skip ain’t never letting go of that 3-1 rightfully so but still
I haven’t even watched this video but just from the title I can tell that it’s a stupid argument.
An asterisk for not beating LeBron?😂😂 they’ve already beaten him 3 times
Exactly😂
Skip discredited 2015 because of Kryie and Kevin injuries. He discredited 2017 and 2018 because KD was there. So from his perspective, the Warriors never really beat Lebron.
@@bwp2bruce 2015 is reasonable but all the other years they destroyed em
Lebron would have 6 rings right now if not for KD.
@@bwp2bruce injuries are apart of the game. No one felt bad for warriors in 2016 when curry could barely get out of bed, igoudala had a bad back and bogut was out smh
these questions are getting ridiculous. LEBRON DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE PLAY IN
Saying the Celtics would get swept by the Cavs is such a wild statement
Fr, like did the Celtics when they were younger not take the Cavs to 7 in 2018? Ironically Kyrie was injured, but for the Celtics. So what even was the basis for the Celtics getting swept by the Cavs.
@@KleinpeterHank well the 2015 cavs had Kyrie for 1 . Another 30+ppg .
@@soulzy3596 calm down its more 15 ppg nowadays
lol this is intentional... the answer is absolutely not, LBJ didn't even make the play in.
You can keep repeating the same statement that all of Skip’s minions and low-IQ LeBron Haters repeatedly say, but it doesn’t make you sound any cooler. You just appear unoriginal and like sheeple.
Definition of an Asterisk:
A picture of LeBron and A.D holding a bubble trophy. 🐭💍
No such thing as a asterisk championship. You play whoever is in front of you. But I do agree not every ring has the same value.
Bro what? Why does everything have to be about Bron 💀
Obsession
Roles have reversed. Steph lost a 3-1 lead, yes. It was also only his 2nd Finals. Compared to Lebron’s 7th at the time.
Now it’s Steph with all the Finals experience.
@Ocean Breeze Steph has surpassed LeBron??? if your talking about who's better right now then yeah but if your saying 1 ring and finals mvp makes him past Lebron all-time when Lebron has been recognized as top 3 all-time then by your standards Steph curry went from a top 15 player to a top 3 player of all time with 1 championship
im a bron fan but wtf does he have to do with this??😂😂
When it comes to skip, LeBron is always the topic, directly or indirectly!
@@ricodarefcallingallfouls6624 literally 😭
Ok its official undisputed gets there headlines off twitter…
This is like saying Lebron never beat Kobe so all his chips have asterisks. Also Kobe passed away so only way Lebron can redeem himself now is dying and playing him in heaven.
@Ocean Breeze youre wrong tho, without LeBron, Celtics Big 3 going to the finals every single year until 2013
Even though I'm not a Curry or Warriors fan. This is the first time I agree with Shannon.
The FIRST time? So you agree with Skip most of time? SMH…
first time??
@@nideeshreddy8368 naw I'm lying about the agreement part, but I'm serious about not being a fan of them. ✌🏾
@@edecanemane y’all getting stepped on 💪🏾🔵🟡🔵🟡🏆
@@narutokiid9639 I'm not a Celtic fan either. GO GRIZZLIES
This year was by far the warriors most impressive championship. No super team, no injuries to stars. It was just a well played series
There’s no way y’all are on your knees this much. This is crazy
Shannon gave it to him today, and I love it. Big up, Uncle Shay Shay.
Why tf is this a question? Whoever came up to this question need to get fired
Skip saying “ heck no “ is extremely entertaining
When has someone ever said “ oh since MJ never played against a team with a historically great basketball player (like Lebron) his championships don’t mean anything. This new media shot be reaching smh.
He faced Magic, Charles & Karl.
They can't give curry the credit he deserves so they have to find a million excuses of why he keeps winning. It can't just be his talent!!!
Stephanie didn’t face a healthy team in the west. Next year I guarantee the flippers come out the west if kawhi and curious George are healthy. Celtics lucked out too not facing a healthy nets and a healthy bucks. Bucks would’ve been the finals this year if they were healthy.
@@benjaminan1183 a magic with Aides? And Charles and Karl ringless dudes are comparable to LeBron's competition? 😂
@@josh_7569 all of them were bus drivers, unlike somebody i know who got swept in the first round playoffs this year...
when lebron won his first 3 rings he always had 2 more all star players to help him, barkley and malone did not have that kind of help, only magic had a super team
lebron failed against a dallas team that only had 1 all star player in that year, while miami had 3 all stars
the hardest competition that lebron had was GSW with 4 all stars, but he had a 3 all star player team... dirk proved that even 1 all star can win against 3 all star so lebron should have no excuse losing to dallas (jason kidd was nowhere near his prime if you want to count him as another all star in dallas, being an all star player is not a lifetime achievement award, it is yearly, in that year only dirk made it from the dallas roster)
They did beat Lebron. They beat him 3/4 times this season 😂😂😂
2007 - LBJ made Finals, Kobe didn’t
2008 - Kobe made Finals, LBJ didn’t
2009 - Kobe made Finals, LBJ didn’t
2010 - Kobe made Finals, LBJ didn’t
2011 - LBJ made Finals, Kobe didn’t
2012 - LBJ made Finals, Kobe didn’t
2013 - LBJ made Finals, Kobe didn’t
We missed out on what could have been a great Finals.
When presented like that its obvious that without a superteam formed by LeBron nobody would have touched those Celtics until 2013
@@arnaud4588 Those Celtics WERE a superteam. LeBron going to Miami was a direct response to what Boston did.
@@cyrus2546 sure i didmt Say otherwise just saying the Heat were finals bound in the 2010's without LeBron joining is wrong
This is such a Skip topic. Just posing the question is idiotic & disrespectful to Steph, and in Skip's mind when Shannon refutes it that somehow also equates to Shannon discrediting LeBron
This is so bogus because in 2011 the Mavericks didn’t face the Spurs and they dodged Chicago which finished higher than Miami in the regular season. This stuff happens more than we think and it’s only when people are trying to discredit someone they they will use this argument. Many all time greats should be discredited if we are using this logic consistently
Skip could care less if it holds water in general. He found his talking point to diminish Curry and stuck with it
wtf kinda question is this LMAOOOO
So we should put an asterisk next to Tom Brady 2020-21 Super Bowl win because he didn't face a healthy Chiefs team
As much as it shocks me to say this, cause he's had so many, this was Skips worst take of all time! Cause by his logic if any team, even the almighty grizzlies that he loves, would've won it'd be diminished right?.. cause they didn't beat that Bron team from 6/7 years ago?... 🙄
He's not comparing every time to LeBron, he's only comparing the Warriors because his theory is that they would have never beat LeBron on their own. 2015, LeBrons entire team was injured, 2016 they lost 3-1, 2017 and 2018 they had KD.
Who else laughed when they saw da title 💀💀💯
Everyone laughed 😅
This might be the worst question ever asked on this show 😂😂😂
Bruh what?
Saying KD carried the warriors to 2 chips is one of the most blasphemous statements I’ve ever heard lmao
Exactly because he couldn’t even carry okc to a title and lost to lebron and the heat in the finals and they both had stacked teams. The media forgets his okc thunder choked away a 3-1 lead in the wcf but they always remember the warriors choking away the 3-1 lead in the finals. KD ran as fast as he could to GSW
Sometimes I don't think Skip actually believes what he says. But he doesn't care cuz he got dropped a bag to just argue with his opponent lol. Honestly respect
Also, idiot statements generate more traffic on the lines.
These days I just fast forward past Skip's comments on any Steph-related topics. He has become as bad as Rob Parker... and that's something you never want to hear.
Even me being a die hard Lakers fan I’m tired of them talking about the Lakers and Lebron. Man can we just appreciate these two teams in the NBA Finals.
If this year has an asterisk, then the 2020 title has 10 asterisks, the 2019 title has 5 asterisks, the 2016 title has 3 asterisks, and the 2015 title has 3 asterisks.
Celtics beat KD + Kyrie, and Giannis lol. Skip might need to call it a career and keep these takes to himself and his buddy Rob Parker. Shoutout to Shannon for rejecting the bull-jive.
Yeah but they didnt beat Lebron, so it would be an irrelevant title obviously. Nobody would respect it. Obviously neither team deservs it really... they should just cancel the season.
A injured nets and bucks keep in mind but yeah I agree
What 😂😂😂😂? Lebron aint even make the playoffs tf this gotta do with him? You only can play and beat whoever is infront of you. I cant watch this anymore bro im done
I can’t believe I just read that title
The Warriors beat the "Great White Hope" in Luka Doncic to make it to the NBA finals. I know that counts for something.
Lmao facts the yacubs are irate about that
Looooool what? Beat a one man team isn’t impressive. Beat a Memphis team without ja, a nuggets team who was another one man show with his two best players injured. Lucked out that the flippers were injured. Warriors won’t be in the finals again next year unless they luck out again
@@GetGr8 That one man team DESTROYED the suns who for many were the best team in the NBA.
You found every excuse you can to dicredit the Warriors championships (15,17,18,22 soon)
@@GetGr8 bruh you really bring out clippers were injured they choked a 3-1 lead against nuggets what have they even done to be considered a great team
Somehow Skip manages to do it again💀
I watched nba from 2014 and now i can easily say.. Steph is one of the gratest player in the history of this game..
No matter what y'all say but he is the most influential player generational talent and best shooter of this game.
One of the best handler
One of the best offensive value the game has ever seen..
You can have your case. But i will stick to mine.❤️
You haven’t watch enough nba to make that point 😂😂
I been watching since '09
@@Youngcarter354 when did you start watching
You have a lot mode to watch. Your frame of reference in the NBA is quite literally when Curry barely entered his prime.
As influential as he is, there are a handle of players who are better.
@@re-mix1040 only 9 players all time
Even if we entertain something this stupid, the better question to ask is "Will the warriors have an asterisk for not beating the suns?"
And the answer to that is still no. If the suns wanted to play in the WCF, they shouldve beat the mavs. Warriors can only play who's in front of them.
Suns went out too sad in their game 7 at home to even being talked about
OMG this is getting stupid now. Skip has gone off the cliff with his troll rage.
Thank you Shannon!
At this point they gonna throw LeBrons name into anything
Thank you Unc! Well said!
“Action Stephen”- greatness! No mo talk.
🤦🏾♂️ they just gotta talk about Lebron 😂😂😂
bruh why even when lebron not in the playoffs nor finals and they are still mentioning lebron???
Bro what is this?☠️☠️
WHAT TYPE OF QUESTION IS THAT🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Wait so because the Warriors didn’t beat a 33 win Laker team in the playoffs, it’s an asterisk championship? Lmfaoooo I’m done.
Let me get this straight. Basically, every team's Finals win in the future will be just an asterisk if they didn't beat LeBron in the Finals? Or is it just the Warriors? If that's the case then I'll put an asterisk to LeBron when they won the bubble chip for not beating the Warriors.
A man that was swept in the 1st round looms over the proceedings of the NBA finals. Only skip can bring this kind of crazy content.
Whoa whoa whoa wait a second 😂😂 SKIP you got me with that one
As much as I love LeBron, this is by far the most blasphemous topic in all sports media off all time. I respect the art of hoops and the Warriors are Mosaics on the court and they're legacy is beyond secured when they win.
So we just gonna put an asterisk on every championship now?
Looks like it lol might as well not even watch anymore...
There shouldn’t be an asterisk on any chip or all of em otberwise what’s the point . You can find a “ asterisk “ in every ring if you wanted to
what is this question?????😭😭😭
The things they will talk about to avoid talking baseball 😂😂
Dear God, please let the Warriors win tonight just to end these playoffs.
Undisputed has been getting worse and worse with the subjects and Skip's repetitive takes over the past few weeks.
Lakers Should Strongly consider trading LeBron-SAS
Lakers not doing that
No one with half a brain would consider that
This might be the top 5 stupidest topics in the shows history
The way Shay ends his segments or rants or whatever is just hilarious 😂
When Golden State lost to the Cavs they were missing there starting PF and Center. And there bench wasn't as good then. Nobody talks about that.
The question in essence is saying that even though Lebron lost more times in the finals than he has won, the Warriors would have to beat Lebron in the finals to legitimize a title to a man that loses more than he has won in the finals. C'mon ESPN!!
The difference btwn you and ESPN is that ESPN looks at it with context... the losing record gives off the inaccurate impression to some fans that lbj isn't that dude.. when in reality most times he lost was out of his control. So ESPN and draymond are in the right here in those regards
What?
This isn't even ESPN 🤣🤣 it's Fox FS1
@@brandonbates9587 he was right tho
@@soulzy3596 I ain't say all that I never disagreed lol I was just messing around
If there's an asterisk, it's 2020 Bubble Chip, that's all. Those are very unusual circumstances that, in my opinion, the NBA should have forfeit the season for health reasons. But, it is what it is.
This is pure comedy I'm not even gonna indulge in this kind of fuckery Let's go dub nation here we go
Omg I swear this is the worst title I’ve seen in a long time
Warriors in 6😎
A REAL asterisk goes to the Mickey Mouse Bubble.
Skip thinks Ben Simmons going to help the Nets he's can't shoot
This is a ridiculous take df asterisk. The celtics beat Giannas kd and kyrie an the heat an their stars are healthy. No its not asterisk. If anything it'll boost curry.
I don’t particularly like the notion of NBA math considering the league can be pretty unpredictable. Yes, the Celtics did beat the Bucks and Nets but they don’t look those same guys right now. If they were playing like this against the bucks they would’ve definitely lost that series
@@jay_1212 its the matchups and golden states star player steph curry its harder to shut him down his skills are crazy his shooting from distance is crazy. Giannas had no shooting game so u could clog the paint and double him cause he's not a dribbler. Kd likes iso ball so when u throw 2 or 3 body's at him he can't get in his bag an he has no inside game an he's not a great passer. Jimmy is up and down 1 game he drops 42 next game he score 14. But with curry he's different he causes so much attention. It's a different level he's the x factor in all of this. Boston defense is the same it ain't changed its just your tryna stop curry
Lebron needs an atrisk for not making play-in with a superteam and winning a Razzie for worst actor playing MJ23 in same year.
You must be pushing at least 50
@@user-ug5sz7yz2v 60
Shannon’s face took me out right before Skips turn 💀
Thank you Mr. Shannon!!!!!
Won't have an asterisk cos even if lebron and AD are playing healthy, they won't be the favorite to beat Bucks, Celtics or even heat. They might not even beat the suns or the sixers. Lebron's win against gsw in 2016 was rigged. NBA is a business, and creating a second MJ is not easy. The NBA was trying to save Lebron's legacy. It's stupid to think even a fully healthy Cavs lineup could beat durant less GSW. Anyone knows about basketball and watch every minute of the 15 and 16 finals knew GSW was a much much much more dominant team than a healthy Cavs. Love was slow, and Kyries ISO play could not get the team anywhere. See how kyrie went to celtics, made it much worse, dumped it, and got swept by the Celtics even when playing with KD. Lebron's playing style is no match against GSWs ball movement.
Will Smith should have walked up to Skip and slapped the s**t out of him for saying something so stupid.
Shannon I Know you are grateful for having this platform and we the people appreciate your honesty and substance you bring to the show .. and get jenny Taft back ...Skip go deeper in the well you can be very informative but where is the logic all information is not good or valid ...dig deeper ...look deeper inside yourself and find that space where your word can truly be trusted..that's Proven
I came for 2016 Skip and he did not disappoint!!!😂😂😂😂😂
He said I’m talking about you 😂😂😂😭😂😭
I'm dumber for watching this.
The way shannon turns frm da camera gets me everytime lol. He shouda did standup low-key
Next on undisputed: warriors championship doesn't count because they didn't beat the 98 bulls
Skip coming around realizing how much he needs Lebron