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- An NBA Finals win for Stephen Curry would give him as many rings as Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James. While Steph is still seeking his first Finals MVP, he is only 34 years old and could have several productive years left in the league. Steph and the Warriors host Celtics in Game 1 of the NBA Finals. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe ponder if Curry can pass LeBron in the GOAT debate.
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Omg since many many years I am watching you, that’s the worst topic you ever debated 😢😳😱 KD is better than Steph and he is not even close to Lebron’s career, Skip don’t be a clown 🤡 people joking sometimes but we know you know basketball 🏀 we respect your knowledge but don’t discredit yourself, Curry is not even a top10 all time, if you don’t have something to debate, just go on vacation, that one trash 🗑🤮
LeGoat James is the Goat 🐐 Sir.
37,000 pts
10,000 Assist
10,0000 rebounds
4 season MVPs
4 Finals MVPs
A scoring title
An Assist title
And if you watched the Lakers this year, the Lakers had a bad year.
But healthy they had the warriors #
Number.
56 and did you see the English on the pass to Melo for the 🗡️ against the warriors this year!
The Warriors don't want to face the Lakers in the playoffs next year.
Oh and the Celtics dismantled the warriors game 1.
Member you said the east was weak.
1 magic Johnson award 8 Larry Bird awards if you want to count
CONFERENCE TITLES
If Steph was as tall as Dell and could get those(apparently) Legacy defining rebounds LeBron wouldn't have a case vs Steph. Imagine KD but add the praise he currently gets actually being earned earned bc he woulda fulfilled his potential as a freak athlete instead of a 6'2" ZERO athleticism guy beating him at every turn and minus the pansy-a$s behavior. That's a REAL contender in the MJ/GOAT debate unlike lebron
Stephen curry is the greatest shooter of the game. Irrelevance that's lebron
Gsw 6 championship within next two years
"Stop it. Get some help."
This is some topic
@ Yeah, white people invented competition…Black people would have no interest in such things if left to their own devices.😂
How much help does lebron need? Lmao
@@GreaterThanSolomon He needs 2 perennial Allstars starting…and a bench of full of former allstars that are willing to take less money to go ring chasing.
@ damn talk about a racial reach 😂
Skip tries to discredit Steph in the first segment. Now he feels steph could take that 2007 Cavs team to the Finals. Come on man.
↩️ Skip can make tight U turns
N the east…y not
Now u can’t say ‘that’ team
The would have different pieces bcuz curry would b the pg
I know the east vs west debate is where it’s @
Even for him that’s a new level of flip flopping lol
@@Tawknmysht we’re talking about that particular roaster of Cavaliers in 2007. In the east with Paul Pierce and the Bad Boy pistons 2.. no, and I admire Steph’s greatness but he has never carried that kind of load at any point in his career
The east was weak af at that time
The way Shannon was talking all calm in the beginning you can tell he was just disappointed that this even a debate 😂
😂😂😂
Now he knows how we feel when he compares Lebron to Kobe or MJ.
@@saradaharunoofthesharingan3564 u sound dumb asf lebron is closer to mj than curry is to lebron
curry greatest player of all time and getting greater
And it’s practiced and scripted.
“ I don’t care how gorgeous she is, I still gotta let the phone ring 3 times”🤣💯 Shannon the goat 🐐
Does the universe explode or something if they don’t talk about LeBron and his legacy for 10 minutes
Lmao it’s like resetting the countdown ticker in lost
All ESPN did was talk about MJ while he was playing you sound young 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BornCrowned_ mj is not LeBron. How dare you mention the two in the same sentence. YOU sound young, son.
@@MichaelLudden Yea, he's not LeBron.
He's M.J! Greatest of all time.
Skip: "I want to see your reaction"
Shannon: "You already know my reaction"
😂😂😂😂
You know it and I know it
I was scrolling and just as I saw this comment the video sync with this
When Shannon says "and that was the only shot he took" and Skip acts likes he's been shot 💀💀💀 this is levels above the other sports talk shows it's hilarious 😂
Yo the intro was absolutely hilarious, Shannon’s face says it all.
Shannon should've trolled Skip by saying he agreed with the article
I said the same thing ! Lol
That is like burning down your house to devalue your neighbors' property values... Shannon is working overtime to push the G0At lie
Right 😂😂😂😂
Lmaao. It’s the way Skips says these things with a straight face for me. Like seriously?😂
Shannon: "lebron averaged 29/11/11"
Skip: "Who took the last shot?"
Shannon: "That's the only shot he took"
Meh. Kyrie played out of his mind in that series. Averaged 27 ppg on super high efficiency. 47/41/94 percentages are nothing to sneeze at.
lmao i thought I was the only one that got that joke...clearly this other comment didn't smh
@@dsteele2332 can u explain please
@@backendkid8385 the joke..Skip said Kyrie took the big shot...Shannon says well it's the only shot he's taken since..a play on words that Kyrie won't take the covid shot lol
@@dsteele2332 ohhh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hate how we can never appreciate greatness as it happens in front of our very eyes, because we always have to compare it some one else.
They are both all time great. LeBron is Top 2 all time and Steph might end up top 10 if everything goes well. Let’s enjoy the two as long as they play.
Well said. Hey I'm like #23!
Exactly !!!!!
Great Ness stop it ...... LB is washed behind AD
@@huberescobar1464 haha washed?
LeBron is not top 2
I like how Steph just leaped frogged Kobe, Magic, Bird, Wilt and Shaq in the goat discussion.
"I don't care how fine she is I have to let the phone ring at least three times" 😂😂😂
😭😭😭😭
The way Shannon can effortlessly say such clever things as casual banter 😂
Bro LeBron has won finals MVP in every championship he’s won lmao this is ridiculous. Let’s just focus on where Steph ranks among point guards
Why should we focus on that? He is easily number 2 in a top PGs list. There is no need to debate that.
Yeah, Steph isn't passing Lebron. But saying we should just focus on where he ranks among point guards is disrespectful. Steph is a legend and will end his career as a top 10 all time
If Lbj plays his career n the west he has 1/2 of all his accomplishments 🤷♂️
@@Tawknmysht depends on what team he’s on in the west.
@@Tawknmysht If Lebron played in the west, someone would’ve BEEN built a team around him; the west was so good in the early 2000’s because they had FAR better Front office to make decisions. People like you on his nuts crying when he gets help, but say he chokes when he has no help against 4 or 5 HoF’s.
Even Skip is trying not to laugh during this absolute joke of a segment 😅🤣😂
10:00 gotta let it ring 3 times🤣🤣🤣
Amazing I had to scroll down this far to find a comment on that 🤣😂🤣
And, "I remember that girl you're talking about, Steph" 😅
The beginning of Shannon's take 😂😂
Skip: “you’re about to be under siege from the rear.” PAUSE
🤣🤣
Cmon bro lmao
AYOOOO 😭🤣🤣
Skip did this just to get a kick out of it…..doing it on purpose to get a rise out of Shannon 😭
Michael Jordan is, in my mind (and currently in the minds of most people polled on the issue), the GOAT. And while I very much enjoy watching Steph play more than I do LeBron, LeBron is clearly above Steph on the GOAT list. And it isn’t close.
Edit: In case anyone cares, and I doubt anyone does, but here is my top 5: MJ is the greatest, followed, in order, by Bron, Kareem, Magic, and Bird.
I care. U got 1 and 2 right. Idc bout the rest lol... Its Jordan then lebron.. U wanna go magic or bill or wilt or kobe im cool with it
@Michael Martin facts
It's blasphemous to say he's close to being a better player than Lebron. It's silly.
As an individual player, Lebron is on another planet. However let's say the Warriors win with Curry being the Finals MVP and he'll beat Lebron in the WCF in the next two years with two more Finals MVP. Would it be fair to say that Curry has dominated Lebron in his era and therefore should surpass Lebron in the alltime list. Again not as an individual player and skills
@@bigpoppa6658 all time is crazy and im saying this as a warriors fan
@@CallMeBezzy it is crazy but as I said, when both of their career ends and Steph has more rings than Bron, then it's fair to put him above Bron..
@@bigpoppa6658 lol Bron been all nba 18 times curry 8 lebron 4 mvps and 4 finals mvps... steph ain't close individually, you have to bring in team accomplishments to compare the 2.
@@SomeonesDad2020 that's my whole point. Allen Iverson as an individual player achieved more and is a greater player than Scottie Pippen but Pippen is ahead in the alltime
"I must admit when I first saw this article last night I got a kick out of it because I thought of you" 😂😂😂
Curry is the goat
The way Skip drops his head saying no.…lol …bet he couldn’t hold his laugh
I ain’t mad at the hustle to write clickbait to get views but man the disrespect LBJ gets. He’ll have to retire for them to realize what he’s done ain’t easy.
U R Correct it ain't easy no one in the modern day NBA has been to 8 straight finals
Facts he’s the greatest stat padder of all time no one will come close
@@laamkingent1 weak east
Louder
Luka on his way
I am ready to see Skip choose between his most disrespected players.
So you're telling me Steph already surpassed:
Kobe
Magic
Duncan
Wilt
Bird
Shaq
Hakeem
Russell
???
he passed hakeem for sure, and take points away from russell for only playing against 5 teams
@@TRILLTALKTV Lmao Hakeem is arguably the best and most skilled at his position of all time. Curry isn’t even better than Magic
@@MoSuli96 if I'm ranking them curry would be ahead of hakeem. Curry is in the top 5 pg convo, hakeem might not be in the top 5 centers convo
I think Shannon’s letting us know today how sick he’s getting of some of Skip’s topic selections
I absolutely love Steph but he doesn't control the game like LeBron.
Even though he is great offensively, Draymond is the guy that runs the offense and he doesn't have to be the best player on defense.
Yes, he made the 3 point shot a big advantage but I think that is his biggest impact.
We all know Steph is great but I don't think this is an fair comparison.
@HidanVenom but LBJ led in points and assists in most of those finals. They were having debates on giving him the finals MVP in two of the series that he lost against GS.
All that control just to miss the play in lmao. Bron does nothing better than Steph, not even defend
@HidanVenom how did he outplay him? By getting KD
@@indmslikedeez8005 shut up bro you still ain’t answer my question
@@indmslikedeez8005 lmao y’all trolls need to be banned off the app man
Steph Curry making the top 10 all time greatest to play in the NBA is even in dispute. Lebron is undisputably top 3 at least. This is disrespectful to 'Bron.
No one is indisputably anything. It’s ALL subjective. Yall need to chill
You're delusional.....smh
How is it disrespectful to lebron? Trust me lebron's n knows curry is not quite on his level but in the Convo. Remember Steph still has 4 good years left in him. Lebron is pretty much done.
Lebron is the 2nd greatest loser since jerry west😂😂
When tf lebron pass kareem or magic
Curry needs at least 1 more league MVP, 2 more rings, and 2 more finals MVP to even be in the same conversation as Lebron
Nope
Nah 2 more rings would do it.
@@antwanwimberly1729 Your on drugs if u think that my goodness
@@matthewitaliano9088 if u say so
Curry already better than lebron 💯 right now facts 💯
Skip is literally just trolling now and I love it lol. He's tired of people comparing Steph to the greatest of the greats and he's just showing how people will switch up when you actually say Steph is better than their favourite player.
Even Steph fans in the comments know this is ridiculous 🤣
All I'm saying its hard to look at a player and say he's the goat of his era if there's another player that won more championships than him. I believe that never happened in any era. That's like against unwritten goat era rules. It just can't happen like that
@@jheiny1231 that don’t even make sense Hakeem won 2 ships in MJ era 🤣 and winning a ship as the second best player in every finals you won really loses you credibility
@@airyoxus yeh but mj ended with 6. Nobody in his era had more is what I'm saying. And the same before mjs era
@@jheiny1231 6 out of 14 years you talk as if he won 6 straight he didn’t he lost y’all Jordan fans try to pause his career after 6 years 🤣
@@airyoxus not one player that was considered goat of there era retired with another player having more championships than him. What don't u get. Your bringing up stuff that I'm not even talking about . Every goat in the past won the most championships in there era. End of story. Your bringing up stuff im not even talking about
I’m not a LeBron defender but I 100% agree with Shannon this is a joke
why this is joke? curry might surpass lebum you never know
@@Oggyyy78 lol never
@@Oggyyy78 literally never happening
@@Oggyyy78 never what an idiot
Steph has to 3peat with 3 finals mvp’s and another regular season mvp for me to consider him passing LeBron. This is coming from an MJ fan
Yes indeed
“Skip… The bounds of which you would go to try to discredit my man GOAT James…” 😂😂😂
We can’t start the week by saying Steph doesn’t even deserve 3 rings to then compare his and Lebrons legacy. Move onto a different sport if you’ve run out of things to talk about lol
Agreed. I wish they would talk about baseball once in a while. They used to in the early days of the show.
Bruh!
Sou Steph does not deserve the rings sou lbj does not deserve he’s rings cuz he always stack teams up
@@austinclark007 nobody cares about baseball, that’s why
@@luisrios7138 LBJ teams have only been favored at least twice since he has been playing. A declining D Wade and very good Bosh is stacked? Get outta here
The disrespect on Bron is crazy. Steph couldn't even lace Bron's shoes. Bron's undoubtedly the 2nd greatest ever and Steph isn't even in the top 10. For 2 of his 3 rings he was the 2nd best player on his team and the other one Bron by himself took him 6. Steph will never be on the level of Kareem, Jordan or Bron and thats okay. People need to chill out cos this is getting ridiculous.
Thank you for spitting facts!
LeBron SECOND greatest player.
FACTS
False lebron is 8th all time
@@GreaterThanSolomon You’re the only person who thinks that🤣
@@owtkvst biased bronsexuals will agree with you lmao
"I don't care how pretty she is I got to let the phone ring three times" 😂🤣😂. Shannon a fool
Just cuz he got around the same rings doesn’t mean he’s better
And don’t forget 2015-2016 when bron came back from 3-1 against steph never done before in the FINALS !!
they saying that curry will end up with 5/6 rings at the end of his career and he will surpass lebum and thats fact. and ok you also need to remember that Steph is 3-1 in final with Lebron.
@@Oggyyy78 Bron's 2nd and 3rd best missed 2015 Finals. KD put Warriors over the top for 3 years and one 2018 Ky wasn't even in the Finals helping Bron. Any finals loss Bron has is mainly due to Bron's teammates being injured or playing like trash
So Russell has 11 rings is he the goat or does that logic only applies when LeBron is in the debate?
@@Oggyyy78 yea thanks to Kd don’t forget that and the one he won without him kyrie was injured and had no help
Bron made everybody want to have an all around game. Lowkey no one never talks about that, which it's "changing the game" imo.
No one wants an all around game, everyone wants to shoot 3s
@Kizzle B lmao no it was players like James Worthy and Scottie Pippen, Jordan couldn’t do it long term while they did it all their careers
all around game goes to kobe and MJ with their ability to shoot the midrange whether it be fadeaways made it look effortless with enough grind and hard work(don't get me wrong lebron is good he just happens to be genetically gifted and spends couples of millions on his body a year)
Steph needed KD. KD needed Steph. The couldn't beat the Bronasaurus lol 😂
@Kizzle B Please stop the cap. Jordan was running to the scorer’s table to check his rebounds and assists. He was regarded as a statpadder at that time for that reason. MJ never had an all-around game. He was the original ballhog who only focused on scoring, which invented hero-ball, which invented idiotic analysts like Skip who think you should take the last shot no matter what, even if 4 defenders are in your face. He could never do what LeBron has done for 19 years.
Curry is a all time great he’s changed the game so much but he will never be better then LeBron
Never be "As good as" LeBron, if he's better, he is the equivalent of M J.
@@patrickfoster_media5451 stop it
Imagine thinking Steph could even touch Kobe’s legacy, let alone LeBron’s.
Some people are just Morons.
I have seen people compare Steph to LeBron favourably, say Harden is a better scorer than Kobe and that MJ dominated against Plumbers and Firemen.
I don’t know what to say to them except ignore them
He could get close to Kobe’s
Lebron has lost a lot more than steph.
@@MrJharpomax well obviously you can make arguments like that but curry also was on that super team that swept lebron imagine if the roles were reversed
@@MrJharpomax Every player who doesn't win a champ has lost low iq bum
Ahahaha Love Drippy getting a reaction out of Shannon!!! Hilarious! “I’m not co-signing!!!”
Lebron isnt in the finals and yet they find a way to fit him in. The worst part is that this isnt even a topic people are interested in.
speak for yourself
@@nestormarrero7690 lmao you like this bs?
Skippy would be unemployed if it wasn’t for LeBron Raymone James Sr.
You commented and gave it a view. Thousands will watch this so you’re wrong to say ppl aren’t interested
All ESPN did was talk about MJ while he was playing you sound young 😂😂
That would mean his above Kareem, Kobe, Magic, Shaq, Wilt, Tim
yes
If he wins 1 more *WITH FMVP* then I can see him get over Wilt and maybe Shaq but the rest, no chance
lmao wilt and Shaq are so much better than Steph is literally insulting to compare him to them
lets not forget bird, hakeem and russel
@@somregularguy wilt is top 5, steph is not top 5, at best if he is top 10 either shaq or hakeem gotta go
“im entering year 3 of being single and im still gon let the phone ring 3 times” lmaoooo unc 😭😭😭😭
The beginning of the video got me 😂
I'm not even a Lebron fan and even I cant deny this is asinine. Lebron is clearly better than Steph.
Idk how people compare the players from two different positions…yea bron basically runs point but he’s a true SF
As a lebron fan, I thank you.
I don’t see why they keep saying KD had to join Steph to win a ring. He joined stacked Golden State, it wasnt just Steph lol
so the guy who beat the guy 3 times is not better than the guy who beat him once?
Nah
No way this a real discussion 😂 saying Curry could pass Lebron in the goat debate is basically putting Curry at 1 or 2 all time which is never happening.
not ""never"
Tho very unlikely ... He could potentially get at least 3 more rings
@@radiospines
Not really. This could be GSW's last ring. And, he need to have at least 4 FMVPS to be compared to bron.
@@keif9447 If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and 2fmvps I believe the 2 extra rings would offset that.
Mainly because LeBron has a losing record in the finals, with 4-6
@@radiospines
LeBron's finals losing records aren't a negative thing lol. It's not his fault for not losing earlier. It even adds up to his overall legacy (talk about MJ's 3 1st round exits).
Using that argument to downgrade LeBron's career (the consensus top 2) just shows that you cannot be trusted when it comes to comparing two different players.
Should we not use statistics, Steph has never been a more dominant player. He always has his team (GSW) to maximize his potential. On the other hand, we all know Bron does not depend on anyone and can make a team instantly better. Like Green said, Bron is arguably the smartest guy to ever play the game.
@@radiospines 5 of those finals losses LeBron did his part and he had no barely much offensive help in 2018 and 2015 (injuries) and 2007 they had no business being in the finals. LeBron also faced GSW with KD in 2017 and 2018 that’s unbeatable except the 2017 spurs and 2018 rockets were toughest opponents to them before injuries.
Only 2011 was LeBron fault and maybe 2015 was not good. However the other 4 finals losses I can guarantee MJ or any other all time great or goat candidates would lose with LeBron team in 2007 and 2018 and 2015 finals and no one is beating 2017 GSW with KD
What's Steph's 4th quarter 3pt fg% in finals? I'm genuinely curious.
7:23
Skip saying Kedone
🤣🤣🤣
IM DONE
🤣🤣 kedone is hilarious
Steph got 3 championships with no fmvp to show for it. I can’t put him over the king 👑
LACRYBBY is no king or a GOAT he just stat chasing ring chasing need's to build super team, just to win a championship looking for the easy way out
@@txmade2102 you definitely been saying that exact comment since 2011 🤣🤣
Steph curry better than lebron 💯
@@juwantaylor5293 in what way lol he's a great shooter that's it
Alright I’m a warriors fan and who ever had this question for todays Segment needs to be fired 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
bro are you not confident that curry will surpass Lebron? I am warriors fan too, I feel way confident that steph will pass Lebron in addition to 4/5 years left for curry to play easily surpass in my mind
@@Oggyyy78 man some of y’all Warriors fans are delusional
@@princesslightning5447 facts it’s scary
Curry prime vs lebron prime. Boy y’all must’ve forgot what the warriors were before 2015 .
@@chrischenault3687 curry never gonna be in the convo as mj and Lebron stop
This was so funny. Skip is hilarious - “I didn’t make the argument, this random guy from CBS sports did, I’m just an innocent bystander”.
Skip is such an endearing troll.
LMFAO! This is not even a conversation, Choke Curry could never pass LeBron, he would literally have to 3peat and win finals mvp all 3 times to give him the edge... and that will never happen...
Substituting Steph on the 07’ Cavs not even making playoffs. STOP IT. SEEK HELP
Learn the game of basketball. Like Sharpe said “it’s more to basketball, than scoring” well said.
@@kaykounty6322 definitely would’ve made the playoffs. The 07 Cavs had one of the best defenses in the league and a few shooters. Putting steph there, they would’ve still been a highly comp team.
WE ALL KNOW. Mark my words Skip Bayless is retiring when LeBron is no longer in the NAB
NBA*
They drafting Derrick rose if curry led that 2007 cavs team
Take steph off the warriors and put Lebron with the same supporting cast and he got 10 rings EASY. Put Curry on the Cavs with the same supporting cast Lebron had and he’ll have ZERO
Curry wasn’t even getting paid as a max player more then half his success + kd cap spike. Steph is great but only a blind man would say better then Lebron
Lebron would have 15 rings easily
kyrie and curry kinda cold but yeah nobody beating kd and bron
Factual.
@Kizzle B Bet and what would Curry have without Klay? See how this works? See how team sports work? So essentially give Lebron a garbage team not fit to make a championship run is what you're saying? Yes, with Tim Duncan and the Spurs, let's remove Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, and Kawhi from the later years 'this time he won't have his all-star hall of fame teammates to help him'
Ah, yes - the great Kobe Bryant, let's go ahead and remove Shaq and Pau Gasol 'this time he won't have his all-star hall of fame teammates to help him'
With that being said, give a prime Lebron that warriors team that got bounced by the grizzlies last year, I promise you they in the playoffs lmao. That's not a knock-on Steph, Steph is a top 15 player all time, but Lebron is another level. This comparison needs to stop
I never thought they "needed" KD to reach the finals again, and beat LeBron. KD was the perfect piece for their team at the time. Yes he's KD, but GSW's system fit his play style very well.
Yes. Golden State needed someone to cancel out Bron. Bron and Kyrie were scoring just as many points as Green, Clay, and Steph combined. Cavs had the better team fit for playoffs before Golden state got KD. LeBron and KD are playoff players. Steph is more of a regular season guy in my opinion.
@@jasminewashington2806 they didn’t need KD they just needed health, but KD made them unbeatable. That’s why they went after him
Look at skip raise his head up quick at the beginning of the show when he heard what the topic was 🤣
I knew this was gonna get under Shannon's skin 🤣🤣🤣
"That was the only shot he took" 😂😂
If Michael Jordan lost in 1998 and only won 5 rings, I'm not sure he'd be universally the undisputed GOAT. But he did. He has 1 more than Magic, Kobe, and Tim which keeps him higher. Tied with Kareem but with more Finals MVPs.
Agreed
Has nothing to do with rings, if that was the case then Robert Horry would be in the GOAT convo 🤦♂️
@@cactusjack2264 fax u can’t use rings as a scape goat bc their a team accomplishment not a individual
@@cactusjack2264 Rings matter. And nobody is comparing role players to superstars.
@@virgilholland1191 rings do matter but so do their circumstances. You gonna tell me that stephs 2 rings should count in a convo against lebron. Man literally had the most insane superteam literally just to beat lebron. Convo ended. Curry top ten no doubt but lebron is top two. The legends in top 5 and on are just that much higher im sorry. Cry, cope, seethe, mald even if you have to.
Skip wanted to bust out laughing at 6:00 🤣
If Steph Curry can’t pass Magic than he damn sure can’t pass LeBron. This is blasphemy.
Can Curry surpass Mike Bibby?
Curry better than both magic and lebron
@@juwantaylor5293 😂😂😂😂😂
How is Curry surpassing LeBron when he hasn't even surpassed KD yet ?
You're trippin
@@felipeelosuamontt4247 I mean he’s not curry is a greater player then kd but he isn’t a better player then kd
@@felipeelosuamontt4247 for real, kd hasn’t passed Steph since Steph passed him in 2016. Regardless of them losing that finals, that season firmly put steph in front of kd to me.
@@africangamerr Curry has passed KD.
@@BlackKen_M yes as a greater player but not a better player
“I did not do this… I did not write this story” 🤣😂💀 He was so serious 🤣😂💀
coming from a warriors/curry fan, this is a bad question. lebron is ahead of him by a large margin in terms of the goat debate. curry revolutionized the game and is so great but he can’t do what lebron can. lebron beats him in pretty much everything but shooting and ball handling
Hi why is lebron not in the playoffs this year? Thanks.
@@murderah17 so because he’s not in the finals this year he’s not as good? cmon man, lebron has a better career than curry at the moment. i hope curry can somehow surpass him but not yet in my opinion
@@murderah17 LeBron has been playing 20 years. Why curry has no FMVP’s yet?
@@MoSuli96 why after 20 years does he not have more titles if hes the so called goat?
LeBron is second fiddle to M.J!
That’s your opinion.
Second to the God of Bball aint bad
The only GOAT debate in the last decade or two has been Lebron Vs. MJ. Now all of a sudden steph is just in contention lol. Dudes bout to bring up that 3-1 lead so fast like Lebron’s 2011 run.
Stop sleeping on Kobe plz
Kobe in the goat debate..stop the disrespect
@@josephmacias8340 nah man. Love Kobe but we can’t let nostalgia blind us. MJ, Bron and Kareem. That’s it.
@@Wheresthegabbagool 5x champ 18x all star 12 x all nba defense Olympic Gold medalist 2xfmvp nba mvp the last player to average 30ppg and make all nba defense team.. elite scoring outside shooting mid range low post moves/deepest bag , as well as one of the greatest guard defenders.. mike #1 Kobe 2
@@josephmacias8340 Okay cool, that doesn't change what he saying lmao. Bron, Mj, Kobe - if that's your goat contention, that's respectable - steph ain't nowhere near them cats, now all of a sudden he a goat lmao please
People really still disrespect Kobe’s legacy…5 rings, dominant, and stayed with the same team through the good and bad
Shannon so hurt behind this.😂😂😂
This is exactly why I don’t want Stephen Curry to win this year 🤦♂️
because he is proving to be better than bron?
@@midori4713 lmao 4 finals mvps vs 1. Yeah curry not even close.
@@xSilentknifegaming you win rings by winning and you get finals mvp with votes.
So we just giving every good player a Goat Convo now 😂
Use the eye test. Since Curry, Klay, and Draymond took off with their team chemistry about 6-7 years ago, anytime Lebron came into Oracle & now the Chase Center it felt and looked like the Warriors were playing against Goku lmao it’s a whole different vibe
Wait so was there 6’8 and taller players who could score, rebounds and make plays as well as anyone on the court like lebron now look at luka, jokic, harden and others that’s all lebron and how he changed what the point guard is
Elgin Baylor, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were all great allaround offensive players. Bball didn't start with bron.
Everyday y’all disrespect Bron it’s getting outrageous now. stephs great Bron great Jordan’s great Kd’s great Kobes great stop knocking down one to bring the other up.
hypothetically speaking if LeBron and Stephen is on the same team LeBron is still the head of that team straight up.
STEPH WON ALL RINGS WITH SAME TEAM. HES NOT A RING CHASER LIKE LEBRON. HE CHANGED THE GAME. HE ALREADY BETTER THAN BRON!
Shannon Sharpe really thinks errbody outside of the Broniacs think like Broniacs 😂😂😂
7:30 - Shannon: „You can never be the GOAT if you were ever the second best player on your team“
Sorry Shannon, but didn’t you have Kareem as the GOAT only like 3 or 4 years ago? He was the second best player on his team for basically the entire second half of his career.
What about the first half
That’s irrelevant. What is he saying now? LeBron is the goat right? And he’s clearly always been the best player on his team for his whole career. So what sense are you trying to make?
Great point
@@malachiwesley207 you are not making any sense. Read those words „You can *NEVER* be the GOAT…“ - for Shannon Kareem was the GOAT from the late 80s to the late 2010‘s despite that. Just goes to show his argument makes no sense. And it doesn’t. Had Jordan joined a better team at the end of his career, with a prime star on it, would that disqualify him? No.
Curry isn’t the goat nor near it. But playing with a better player is not the reason why.
@@Shaolin91z Curry was the best player on his team from 2009 to 2016 and 2019 to at least now. It‘s about ALWAYS being the best player. A million players were the best player of their team at some point.
Steph could average a triple double with 50 points in these finales and still not even see LeBron in the goat debate.
Just elite level trolling on both sides of this 🤣🤣
“I’ve seen that from Steph on Occasions” lmaooooo WHAT
LeBron is the only man who's won at least 1 ring with 3 different teams
4 finals MVP, score 50 points in year 17,
Is ranked 3rd all time in triple doubles,
Only player to score 40 points in all 5 positions, the only player to play all 5 positions at a elite level as a pass first player, all time scoring champion, 10 finals appearances in the last decade
And he ruined that 3 teams too. 😅
I don't care what anybody says. Steph is lebron biggest threat.
He knows it
This segment was so funny 🤣
.. “yu collab’d on it.”
- Shannon
😂😂😂😂😂😂‼️
No he won’t
LeBron is the G.O.A.T aswell as Jordan but Bron has more Records that Current & future players can’t touch. & about Jordan, All I have to say 2x 3 Peats, 6x Finals, 6 Rings, 6x Finals M.V.P & multiple records that (like Bron) No1 will be able to get close to any of them.
& last point, They BOTH played in completely different eras. 1on1 Jordan. 5on5 LeBron 💯%
You’re taking Jordan over Lebron in a 1v1?
Finally someone who knows what's up
Facts !!!
LACRYBBY is no GOAT just stat chasing ring chasing building super team. To win a championship looking for the easy way out
@@txmade2102 and here comes the idiots rolling in..
It's a joke to even ask this question. Lebron literally does everything on the court at the highest level and the only thing Steph does at a high level is shoot and drive. What an insult to Lebron SMH.
After lebron added the 3 point shot to his game it was over for the curry lebron take.
Nice way to show your bias, lmfao. Saying how great Lebron is while narrowing a top 10 All time great down to just being able to “shoot and drive.” Funny
@@kimochi__ You mean to show my comparison? What else does Steph do at the highest lvl besides shoot and drive? I guess you can argue he's a good passer and facilitator because of how smart he is when he drives but that's about it. I admit he's a top 2 shooter of all time(I put him behind Dame dolla because dame is clutch, curry isn't which is another reason he ain't a goat) but to say he's a top 10 player of all time or to even compare him to Lebron is just sugar coating it but that's just my opinion you deserve your own of course.
@@kimochi__ if you take away stephs 3p shot he not top 10 that
@@beyoncefrancois1182 If I take away KDS pull up jumper he’s not top ten either. You sound dumb, bud.
Ya gotta love when Skip Clueless destroys his own argument at 10:54.
Man these guys funny af together lmao especially shannon
I love this show because of Shannon’s personality 💯 one of one
Yes!
The guy that wrote this and needs to be drug tested immediately. This is Stephen A BLASPHEMOUS ‼️‼️
I don't know about anyone else, but the notion that the Warriors without KD would have just lost to LeBron from then on is crazy to me. They were up 3-1 and if Draymond doesn't get suspended, the gentleman sweep them.
Yall really be thinking, you gotta let the phone ring before answering it? Yall weird if that's the case.
One FMVPs takes Steph from top 15 to Top 3??????? Past Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, Bird????????????
Those players can’t shoot
I love LeBron, he's a beast. But to ignore what Steph has done to impact the NBA is more than a fair bit of hubris. Dude opens up the entire court. His handles are second to arguably only Kyrie and that's debatable. He is a great leader. He's selfless and an assassin. Dude can light it up from anywhere and his ability to get to the rack is underrated. He's also a beast. Not in GOAT territory but DAYUM good
Still not better than the second greatest player of all time.
I feel like they both good in there in departments. But together they are unstoppable