This leaner was 96,000 lbs, because of the lack of structural integrity on these trinity trailers we needed to unload some weight so that the trailer didn’t take any damage.
My dad would take us out to Lake Lowell sometimes. Had boat races there, those really fast boats would throw up a " rooster tail" this was back in the mid 50's.
Sir Michael !!! GREAT RECOVERY !!! If you watch ""RON PRATT"" ,,he uses the 4 X 6 timbers standing upright between the tandems on his ""TATOR"" to keep it from rolling backwards instead of using them laying down on the ground !! Just another way to keep the ""TATORS"" from moving !! ""KEEP IT SAFE "" !!!
K B nice observation, we also use lumber upright, if you use it that way you need to make sure it’s a hardwood. We have a support trailer that carries that lumber. The way I use the lumber here is letting the truck roll up against the lumber until the tire shows a deformation then lock the breaks. We use a little softer wood to bite the asphalt road and lock the truck down. It works great on this type of road, as we get more bite out of the lumber on the ground compared to using the upright style wood that only gives us 4 inches of contact each. Now if we would have been in the dirt I would have used the upright lumber as it digs in awesome. Thank you for commenting, keep up the great work and keep on learning. See you next time.
Sumter wreckers gets these same situations regularly. Mr Hal and crew do them with their v 100 50 ton. They use a slightly different approach. It might be worth checking out their CZcams to see their method. Job well done none the less.
One of the local wrecker services has, for lack of a better description, a rig that will suck up grain like a vacuum cleaner and blow it inot another trailer. It is trailer mounted and can be towed by a pickup truck.
I'm amazed you did not need a line over the top to keep it from rolling once it was off the telephone poll. Good work, good video and you got my subscription
Times like this I remember what my daddy told me: Son, if you're ever gonna screw up, do it in a way that makes everyone scratch their heads and mutter "what the...."
What need is radio that can pick up those signals, make sure it has an Audio out port, from that Audio port, hook a Digital Audio recorder, hit record and it is captured
Good video.. was surprised not more concern about electric overhead utility lines holding the pole from breaking... but good to see the utility truck bracing it eventually.. and suggest tossing the dirty vests into the washing machine.. would look much better and more professional.. lol
good job on rigging and recovery only thing i see wrong is the 4 guys standing in the trailer while your winching it out big saftey issue if something goes wrong and it decides to go over there in trouble and try explaining that to an insurance agency as to what happened and why they were injured
You aren't wrong about that style belt trailer not having much structure to them. Hollow Structural Steel Tube, Hopes, and Dreams. If one of the diagonal braces gets damaged, it's all over but he crying.
It always amazes me that the trailer designers seem to give basically no consideration to recovery. It all seems to be just maximum payload for minimum cost. I'm sure there are better designs out there, and part of the blame goes to those buying the trailers, but it really wouldn't kill them to design in some lifting points and the like.
Haha that’s funny, landview hauls us ground corn as well, considering this was by the lake this load didn’t come to my place haha, and as for the people commenting that he doesn’t know how to drive, this driver hauls to our dairy once a week and backs up his trailer into a 9.5ft bay every time, and that’s with little turn around room for the truck as well, everyone has an off day and maybe this happened to be his!
yeah they all judge and not hear the whole story then some candy a## tow truck driver cant operate the truck he drives he could have backed up to it two chains pic it up swing it out of the ditch Done it many tm=imes myself !!!!!!
Being they unloaded some of it and that’s a rotates why didn’t y’all pick it up and move it versus sliding it risking the chance for tearing anything up? Just thought maybe picking it up would be a ton easier but idk weights of trailer and or what your boom can handle
I think their biggest problem was finding something solid enough to lift with. In the end they settled for dragging it out, which worked, and was relatively free from the chances of damaging something. But I'm not the tow-truck operator, they did it the way they thought best, is my best guess.
50 ton rotator = 100,000 lifting capacity straight off the rear at 30 to 35 degrees of elevation .... two things wrong here one the truck was way too far away from the job the closer you can set up your wrecker the more control you have of the load your lifting or winching and two a simple pick and swing using a three part line on the low side and a two part line on the high side would have worked way better due to having more control and having more control means your working safer ... when you pick and swing your not lifting the entire weight of the trailer just about half at the very most .... as soon as the trailer starts to come up on the low side then tighten slowly on the cable on the high side and if your positioned correctly the trailer slides back onto level ground all while being controlled
AWESOME video of a technical recovery! I've watched a few of your videos, & decided it's time I subscribe, & support my fellow Pacific Northwest CZcamsr!IF I can figure out how to build it, would I have your blessing to make an RC model of your rotator?
@@CountryEquipmentRentals I've got to check with my friend that has the machining capabilities to make the custom parts that would be needed. It'll be a LONG long time before it would see the light of day, with all the specialty parts that would need machined. If he's on board with the project, I'll get started with it.
@@CountryEquipmentRentals I checked into having my friend that has the CNC machines that would make this project possible. He's not interested in assisting with the project at this time. ☹ IF I can get the machining portion to happen, I would still love to build this rotator truck!
Tbqh it's a pretty big failing on the part of the trailer manufacturer to not design a way so as to enable recovery crews to handle the trailer if it's loaded to capacity
@@CountryEquipmentRentals KI know I live in Arkansas and a farmer hauling from the field to the first place of storage has no weight limit, but if he loads somewhere that has scales the weight limits apply. Across the river in Mississippi you ca nbuy a permit for about $30.00 that allows you to have a gross weight up to 83,000 pounds.
Next time go over the trailer with a strap and then low with the drag like yall did and itll level itself out all faster and be a easier pull on the drag. I love my 1150 theyre beast
@18:27, Should that person be in the trailer? What would have happened to him if there was a catastrophic failure, chain break, and that trailer rolls over?
Way too much camera motion in this video (spinning around in a circle as well as constant jumping around), and one half of the conversations, no video of unloading the trailer :( One star
Alexis DeVille I am a rigger and I video with a go pro on my chest. I’m a 6/7 wreckmaster and mainly did light duty medium duty and heavy recovery but now I’m in management, Michael is the main guy who runs the rotator, he’s very good at what he does. He’s a wreckmaster instructor and one of the best in the country at heavy recovery. Plus I don’t have a cdl lol
I drive a school bus and known to take wide turns....what/how the heck did this driver end up in this horrible situation. I bet he needed to change his drawers when he seen that trailer start leaning.
I'm with everyone else. This driver really cut the corner on this one. Probably newer driver to the truck & trailer. He's going to pay for this with his ass. Boss man is going to be super pissed when he see's this video. It's a standard right hand turn (corner), should not of been a Biggy as there is plenty of room. The truck driver literally drove the left trailer side trailer wheels into the ditch, where do you think the right wheels were? I don't think he was talking on the phone, I think he was sleeping.
Not arm chair quarterbacking and unloading when possible is the best way. You guys couldn't have come in from the ass of that trailer and some how rigged under the axles picked it up and swung it back to hard ground instead of dragging it from the side? Just asking I owned a wrecker service for 25 years way before the rotators came out (Damn i wish we had em' back then) We used to call a crane company out when we really had to lift and swing something. Overall Good job!
Phat Boiz Back Yard KustomZ Thanks for your question, it seems that would be the best option but because of this particular type of trailer if we would have picked up the back it’s possible it could buckle in the middle, we didn’t want to take that chance. These trailers are not very structurally sound.
I watched a former coworker cut a corner so bad in an asphalt tanker he woulda had both trailer axles to the inside of a stop sign and promptly rolled over
Can you send those back and exchange them for ones that you can extract the audio from so you can edit it into the video? Surely they have a satisfaction guarantee as much as they cost.
Harrison Katzz we would totally do that if it wasn’t a trinity trailer. This particular trailer if you do that especially with weight in it, it buckles the middle and destroys the trailer.
Robert m the driver would surely pay for this stupid mistake does he have 2 eyes, like dot requires, probably on cell phone which the dot will look at,I would surely send him for a pee test.
My dad would take us out to Lake Lowell sometimes. Had boat races there, those really fast boats would throw up a " rooster tail" this was back in the mid 50's.
Sir Michael !!! GREAT RECOVERY !!! If you watch ""RON PRATT"" ,,he uses the 4 X 6 timbers standing upright between the tandems on his ""TATOR"" to keep it from rolling backwards instead of using them laying down on the ground !! Just another way to keep the ""TATORS"" from moving !! ""KEEP IT SAFE "" !!!
K B we too do that. We just didn’t have any hard wood on the truck, it’s usually in our recovery trailer but the trailer didn’t go on this call.
K B nice observation, we also use lumber upright, if you use it that way you need to make sure it’s a hardwood. We have a support trailer that carries that lumber. The way I use the lumber here is letting the truck roll up against the lumber until the tire shows a deformation then lock the breaks. We use a little softer wood to bite the asphalt road and lock the truck down. It works great on this type of road, as we get more bite out of the lumber on the ground compared to using the upright style wood that only gives us 4 inches of contact each. Now if we would have been in the dirt I would have used the upright lumber as it digs in awesome. Thank you for commenting, keep up the great work and keep on learning. See you next time.
Yeah the WreckMaster lead instructor knows the basic steps of anchoring outlined in the fundamentals course... lol
Sumter wreckers gets these same situations regularly. Mr
Hal and crew do them with their v 100 50 ton. They use a slightly different approach. It might be worth checking out their CZcams to see their method. Job well done none the less.
Huge kudos to the man that planted that utility pole! Well done that man..
One of the local wrecker services has, for lack of a better description, a rig that will suck up grain like a vacuum cleaner and blow it inot another trailer. It is trailer mounted and can be towed by a pickup truck.
I'm amazed you did not need a line over the top to keep it from rolling once it was off the telephone poll. Good work, good video and you got my subscription
Bill Steel Great! Thank you so much! 👍🏻
Awesome job guys. Love the videos and thanks for sharing. Stay safe
Must have been a hell of a load on both winches...💪. Very nice job...👍
Times like this I remember what my daddy told me:
Son, if you're ever gonna screw up, do it in a way that makes everyone scratch their heads and mutter "what the...."
The equipment power is great. Good job
Oh and dawn dish soap works wonders on sliding tires on asphalt
What need is radio that can pick up those signals, make sure it has an Audio out port, from that Audio port, hook a Digital Audio recorder, hit record and it is captured
That is a AWSOME rotator my dad own a towing in Detroit, Michigan call Dixon towing...
Orande Bostick awesome! 😊
Good recovery! I like Trinity trailers but your right, nothing much to hook to.
Beautiful Rotator you guys have. I’m surprised that heavy trailer didn’t take that telephone pole down.
Good video.. was surprised not more concern about electric overhead utility lines holding the pole from breaking... but good to see the utility truck bracing it eventually.. and suggest tossing the dirty vests into the washing machine.. would look much better and more professional.. lol
He had enough room to make the turn is he'd swung out before he made the turn.
Gotta love pea gravel for job security
He had enuf room on that intersection to do a u turn
This guy had to be trying to back in that road, there's no way he could suck that bad driving forward!
You would be surprised how many idiots are in big trucks 😂
Amazing how them tires stay on wheels and not just pop off with that dragging sideways
good job on rigging and recovery only thing i see wrong is the 4 guys standing in the trailer while your winching it out big saftey issue if something goes wrong and it decides to go over there in trouble and try explaining that to an insurance agency as to what happened and why they were injured
I have noticed that a lot of the local truck drivers in the valley. Shouldn't even have a CDL. Quite a few really unsafe drivers.
It seems some drivers forget that they have a trailer behind them.
You aren't wrong about that style belt trailer not having much structure to them. Hollow Structural Steel Tube, Hopes, and Dreams. If one of the diagonal braces gets damaged, it's all over but he crying.
It always amazes me that the trailer designers seem to give basically no consideration to recovery. It all seems to be just maximum payload for minimum cost. I'm sure there are better designs out there, and part of the blame goes to those buying the trailers, but it really wouldn't kill them to design in some lifting points and the like.
The margins in trucking are tiny and if the job is done right there never a need for recovery of any kind
Haha that’s funny, landview hauls us
ground corn as well, considering this was by the lake this load didn’t come to my place haha, and as for the people commenting that he doesn’t know how to drive, this driver hauls to our dairy once a week and backs up his trailer into a 9.5ft bay every time, and that’s with little turn around room for the truck as well, everyone has an off day and maybe this happened to be his!
yeah they all judge and not hear the whole story then some candy a## tow truck driver cant operate the truck he drives he could have backed up to it two chains pic it up swing it out of the ditch Done it many tm=imes myself !!!!!!
I don’t see how an experienced driver can screw up a turn with that much room, unless of course he wasn’t paying attention.
can't watch my eyes are swimming
should send driver for retraining
Retraining for another line of work
Not truck driveing anymore
flipping burgers
Did they unload the truck or did you just skip that part? If they did, it would have been interesting to see how they did it.
Being they unloaded some of it and that’s a rotates why didn’t y’all pick it up and move it versus sliding it risking the chance for tearing anything up? Just thought maybe picking it up would be a ton easier but idk weights of trailer and or what your boom can handle
I think their biggest problem was finding something solid enough to lift with. In the end they settled for dragging it out, which worked, and was relatively free from the chances of damaging something. But I'm not the tow-truck operator, they did it the way they thought best, is my best guess.
50 ton rotator = 100,000 lifting capacity straight off the rear at 30 to 35 degrees of elevation .... two things wrong here one the truck was way too far away from the job the closer you can set up your wrecker the more control you have of the load your lifting or winching and two a simple pick and swing using a three part line on the low side and a two part line on the high side would have worked way better due to having more control and having more control means your working safer ... when you pick and swing your not lifting the entire weight of the trailer just about half at the very most .... as soon as the trailer starts to come up on the low side then tighten slowly on the cable on the high side and if your positioned correctly the trailer slides back onto level ground all while being controlled
A1 recovery yellow coat team 😆
T hat's an unusually long wheelbase trailer.
You need to watch Ron Pratt
there is a guy from plaza towing he has the same headset thing but i can here you guys' back and forth.
I'd love to find out how he does that then. Maybe he puts a mic in the earpiece? It would be much more enjoyable if the viewers can hear everyone.
CountryRepair23 czcams.com/video/8VWdFF8QKgo/video.html
CountryRepair23 that’s the headsets they use
@@artyart31 Awesome! Thanks! I just watched it
Mike Douville jr. I just ordered a headset that I’ll put in my ear piece so you guys can hear everything 👍🏻
Stop panning the camera around so rapidly. Focus on something for more than a half second.
AWESOME video of a technical recovery! I've watched a few of your videos, & decided it's time I subscribe, & support my fellow Pacific Northwest CZcamsr!IF I can figure out how to build it, would I have your blessing to make an RC model of your rotator?
PNW RC heck yeah! We’d be honored!
PNW RC we want one!
@@CountryEquipmentRentals I've got to check with my friend that has the machining capabilities to make the custom parts that would be needed. It'll be a LONG long time before it would see the light of day, with all the specialty parts that would need machined. If he's on board with the project, I'll get started with it.
@@CountryEquipmentRentals I checked into having my friend that has the CNC machines that would make this project possible. He's not interested in assisting with the project at this time. ☹ IF I can get the machining portion to happen, I would still love to build this rotator truck!
Tbqh it's a pretty big failing on the part of the trailer manufacturer to not design a way so as to enable recovery crews to handle the trailer if it's loaded to capacity
Trying too cut weight plus save a dollar...make it cheaper--make it quicker
If it doesn't come up before the asphalt the frame of trailer will start to buckle
Can you list in the video description in the future the head sets and similar equipment ?
heartland96a Yeah I can do that. I bought a mic to put in the ear of my headset, hopefully it’ll work 👍🏻
@@CountryEquipmentRentals great thanks will be checking out those videos
You must have some very different weight limits in that area. 96,000 pounds gross weight would be way outside the limits most places.
It’s Idaho 😊
@@CountryEquipmentRentals KI know I live in Arkansas and a farmer hauling from the field to the first place of storage has no weight limit, but if he loads somewhere that has scales the weight limits apply.
Across the river in Mississippi you ca nbuy a permit for about $30.00 that allows you to have a gross weight up to 83,000 pounds.
How safe is it to have people in the trailer while recovering it
So do you guys paid before to remove the truck or after? And whose taking the videos?
Maybe put a little microphone in the earpiece of one of the headset and record the sound that way. Thanks for another great video.
Yeah maybe, it is a major bummer you guys can't hear everything I'm hearing
Ben Ekeler done! Got it ordered 👍🏻
@@CountryEquipmentRentals Great, looking forward to that.
@@CountryEquipmentRentals Plaza towing has a similar headset to yours, I think only the master headset has the ability to record all other headsets.
Baz764 awesome! I’ll look into that!
Next time go over the trailer with a strap and then low with the drag like yall did and itll level itself out all faster and be a easier pull on the drag. I love my 1150 theyre beast
Kind of cut that corner a bit short. Good job getting him back on the road.
Twin steer rotator ? Why didn’t you pick and slide
How do these drivers get thier jobs, much less keep them
Why no spades or outriggers down. That’s loading your suspension and brakes pretty good
@18:27, Should that person be in the trailer? What would have happened to him if there was a catastrophic failure, chain break, and that trailer rolls over?
We were holding it while they unloaded some. That trailer wasn’t going anywhere
Way too much camera motion in this video (spinning around in a circle as well as constant jumping around), and one half of the conversations, no video of unloading the trailer :( One star
Good job
You do not seem to be operating the Rotator what’s the story you seem to be primarily doing audio, video?
Alexis DeVille I am a rigger and I video with a go pro on my chest. I’m a 6/7 wreckmaster and mainly did light duty medium duty and heavy recovery but now I’m in management, Michael is the main guy who runs the rotator, he’s very good at what he does. He’s a wreckmaster instructor and one of the best in the country at heavy recovery. Plus I don’t have a cdl lol
I drive a school bus and known to take wide turns....what/how the heck did this driver end up in this horrible situation. I bet he needed to change his drawers when he seen that trailer start leaning.
His boss 😭😭😭driver 😩
Bet that driver was riding higher in the saddle after that
I'm with everyone else. This driver really cut the corner on this one. Probably newer driver to the truck & trailer. He's going to pay for this with his ass. Boss man is going to be super pissed when he see's this video. It's a standard right hand turn (corner), should not of been a Biggy as there is plenty of room. The truck driver literally drove the left trailer side trailer wheels into the ditch, where do you think the right wheels were? I don't think he was talking on the phone, I think he was sleeping.
This driver evidently had something serious on his mind to put her in that ditch with all the room in this intersection...SMH
Audio keeps cutting in-and-out
Not arm chair quarterbacking and unloading when possible is the best way. You guys couldn't have come in from the ass of that trailer and some how rigged under the axles picked it up and swung it back to hard ground instead of dragging it from the side? Just asking I owned a wrecker service for 25 years way before the rotators came out (Damn i wish we had em' back then) We used to call a crane company out when we really had to lift and swing something. Overall Good job!
Phat Boiz Back Yard KustomZ Thanks
for your question, it seems that would be the best option but because of this particular type of trailer if we would have picked up the back it’s possible it could buckle in the middle, we didn’t want to take that chance. These trailers are not very structurally sound.
👍👍👍
Is that the new 100 ton ??
I watched a former coworker cut a corner so bad in an asphalt tanker he woulda had both trailer axles to the inside of a stop sign and promptly rolled over
With all that room how can any so called truck driver drop his trailer off the road that bad ?
Can you send those back and exchange them for ones that you can extract the audio from so you can edit it into the video? Surely they have a satisfaction guarantee as much as they cost.
We have a leaner!!! 😂😂😂
You need black strap to lube these dry cables
what was the guy hauling
tommy dallas Cornmeal
#49 thumbs uP
Is this in Idaho
Perdo and Leland Perdo yes it is, out by lake Lowell
You should mount your camera on your head
workcolton 123 I had too many complaints about the movement and it being hard to watch
@@CountryEquipmentRentals oh ok
workcolton 123 maybe I’ll try it again
👏 wow
LUCY. YOU'VE SOME SPLANIN TO DO
Bet that driver looking for another line of work. Stupid. Cutting the corner
Probably can't judge distance n the cab. He didn't swing out enough to make that turn.
That is what mirrors are for.
This driver passed steering wheel holder school or he could be a swift driver, anyway to miss judge a turn tell me he needs about 6 week of schooling,
You guys get paid by the hour as slow as you move these loads.
Very sketchy recovery put your hair up on end!
COUNTRY REPAIR 23 I ASKED A QUESTION AND A VIEWER SAID NEGATIVE COMMENTS WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER IT LOOKED REAL TO ME
Harrison Katzz what is your question?
Question is pick up back end and swing over ?
Harrison Katzz we would totally do that if it wasn’t a trinity trailer. This particular trailer if you do that especially with weight in it, it buckles the middle and destroys the trailer.
@@CountryEquipmentRentals Thank you ,I missed the fact that it is a self unloader and light weight construction
He has a gross weight of 96000 lbs.
His pay load is probably only about 68000
Robert m the driver would surely pay for this stupid mistake does he have 2 eyes, like dot requires, probably on cell phone which the dot will look at,I would surely send him for a pee test.
Diese Wackelaufnahmen sind nervig!