Android to iPhone RCS Messaging: All New Features (Tested)
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This video explores how the recent implementation of RCS messaging on iPhones impacts users with Android devices. While also testing features like high-resolution media sharing, read receipts, and group chat functionality.
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Timestamps
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0:00 - Intro
0:31 - Getting started
1:08 - High quality media sharing
2:11 - Read receipts
2:56 - Typing indicators
3:18 Group chats
3:54 - Issues
4:17 - Green bubble vs blue bubble
5:01 - What you should know
6:11 - Closing - Věda a technologie
Apple made the decision to go with RCS one day before they had to reply to a major monopolization lawsuit in Great Britain. It was not a coincidence.😅
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@@jaybreezy4711 Another Apple fan boy who'd hasn't done his research. 🤣
They still believe USB C introduccion (and a basic one) was for innovation, when it was this exact situation: Europe forcing them to do it.
Next one will be removable batteries!
@@Jenny-px5tu you make a claim without a source apple could care less about Britain, that’s a tiny market, they could leave Britain and it not make a dent in their profits
Thank you for this video! As a solitary Pixel user isolated in an ocean of iOS devices in my family, it's great to know that I would be able to text my son or my wife with some decency! Finally! Thanks for all you do!
I feel the same, I finally convinced my wife to get the P9P when it comes out in August. Hopefully she doesn't change her mind by then🤞🏿.
@@chobanniyogurt pixel got best pictures why wouldnt a woman want that
@@subgivtara Pixel hasn't been the King of photography for YEARS.
🤣🤣🤣
Vivo has held that crown for a few years now.
Software can never make up for camera hardware.
Same !!!!!! #TeamPixel #TeamAndroid #FamilyFullOfApples 😂😂
Oppo user in America here using a Oppo is like being a grain of sand in a ocean of smartphones
I love this, as an IPhone user being able to communicate with my Android friends not needing another app is amazing, full quality images, videos and reactions is all i need. 🎉
Please correct your English/grammar. You're making us iPhone users look bad haha. Here, I'll do it for you:
I love this.* As an* iPhone* user,* being* able to communicate with my Android friends without* needing another app is amazing.* Full quality images, videos and reactions is all I* need.
Everyone here we use WhatsApp
@@The.JZA.you're THAT guy
@@maravreloaded Yes lol. Only when it’s REALLY bad though. Grammar is a dying art.
@@The.JZA. It's honestly annoying how dismissive people are over bad grammar because "it's just the internet, not an essay." Pardon me for trying to help you not look like an idiot.
As an android user surrounded by mainly iPhone friends, I most look forward to being able to text over WiFi. My college is in a location where my signal is spotty at best, and this past year has been somewhat a nightmare when trying to communicate with friends. Can't wait for the full RCS release!
Have you tried Wifi calling? You're supposed to be able to call or text when enabled.
@@Not_Like_Us87 Yep, I use WiFi calling, but it only seems to works like 50% of the time. Texting also doesn't work at all unless I have a signal. So WiFi calling helps the situation, but it is still pretty unreliable.
@jrhaven Yeah we need that updated then
We need e2e encryption in the open standard
They're working on it, but that's gonna take time.
It's not in the base standard so GSMA meets various counties telecommunications laws. It can be added like other features with extensions like Google has done. So Apple can do it.
@@Spoonfed78 Is that true? In those countries, how does Google handle those regulations with their existing E2EE solution?
It seems like the GSMA can add E2EE to the RCS spec and still allow governments to force carriers/OEMs to disable it for devices sold in those countries.
@@_____case GSMA has the details of the universal profile on their web. It's in a way modular by design. Has the ability also to be connected into 3rd party messaging too, which may happen in time due to the EU. Google has signed into the open cross platform e2e messaging thing also, I can imagine Apple couldn't think of anything worse.
So yes Apple can implement whatever, they choose not too. It's simple. Yet Apple cares about security is all people blab. Down here in the backwater RCS has been around 9 years via carriers, it's not exactly new.
Fully agreed I am so glad Apple isn't just using Google's proprietary standard. Instead opting to force the adoption of a open standard to benefit all
I'm so glad this is happening. At least once my friends update in the fall.
Exactly. My whole family is on iPhone and I was able to update my wife's phone but the rest of family refuse to right now and God knows when they will when it's officially released.
You can get it now. It's a beta test.
I'm soooop ready for RCS on iPhone!!! I'll finally be able to send videos to my family with practicality!
This is the best review on RCs in iOS 18 beta. I have watched. You covered all the features and drawbacks well and included group messaging features! Thank you.
Great video Jordan! 🙌🏾 Thanks for doing a side-by-side comparison! I can't wait until the fall when it becomes stable on iPhone.
Welcome to RCS Messaging, iPhone friends! 🙌🏾
I’m on iPhone currently, but thinking of going back to Android after iOS 18 is released due to the addition of RCS.
RCS is buggy as is rn, don’t expect it to be as fluent cross platform. Encryption isn’t there yet as he stated
I won't change IM app (I live outside the U.S. and we use WhatsApp) but it is great to know that U.S. iOS users have now the ability to choose their own platform (to an extent) and get rid of the bullying.
Thanks EU for making this possible
This is Great for Android fans, my bro has a iPhone, it's gonna be nice to finally send High quality pics and videos to each other
I think this is the first time a channel has sent this viewers where I actually feel like they mean it? ❤❤❤
It's a nice touch. Have noticed some of the same inconsistencies you've mentioned while messaging with my iPhone friend. Overall experience has been positive but still keeping Whatsapp as well
Great content and awesome to hear RCS is coming to iPhone users!!
Been using both iOS and android since the first gen, this is like that one kid had had a glow up after high school…. Only it happened 15 years later lmao
this channel is underrated
One thing I just wondered, I've seen memes mocking the video/photo quality of androids before and now I wonder if a bunch of people thought that the images/videos they recieved through MMS were the real quality lol
Honestly you're absolutely right. I live in the UK and the number of moronic iPhone users that have this mentality is unfathomable to say the least.
It drove me crazy to the point I had educate allot of my friends about it just because they openly and shamefully mocked andriod users for having inferior video quality (so to speak) whilst having absolutely zero idea why.
@@detroid89 mark my words once this goes live its gonna be outrage on social media from iphone users lol.....its gonna be on shaderoom
A lot of people are tech-illiterate. Got no idea the *why*. Just blame the droid!
This is exactly why. They see the potato quality photo and assume that's what photos look like when taken by Android phones, not realizing that more often than not, some Android phones actually take better photos than their iPhones 😂
Hopefully RCS helps with that misconception a little, another reason I'm excited for RCS to finally come to iPhone
A good bit of people probably did think that, but this is also due to most android social media apps taking lower quality pictures/videos than if they were done in the native android camera app itself. I think this has been mostly remedied recently though
Finally. Been waiting on this for a while now
Glad to see the implementation progress even though it took THIS long. The only thing that bothers me is most videos/articles are displaying this as a feature iPhone is bringing and not a tech they refused to implement to hold people inside iMessage. Your video hinted at the "finally" portion. It's crazy that Apple had to be sued to put this in. Even crazier (great job marketing) that most Apple users don't even know what iMessage really is and that they have been missing rcs/the upgraded TEXTING experience.
RCS isn’t advanced enough yet to be considered the a superior iteration of iMessage
@@Smoshylife they are two different things. iMessage is a data messaging service like Whatsapp and Facebook messenger. RCS is the next gen texting (sms/MMS). It is the superior version of THAT and Apple had to get sued to implement it. Apple users just thought that all other phones sent bad pictures via "iMessage" but it was really that Apple was forcing their customers to continue to use an outdated sms technology. Marketing genius since the customers had no idea and just thought they had a better phone.
Thanks for the video
Love your channel ❤
This was super insightful
Damn, ths is wild. I remember being made fun of back in the day for having green bubbles from girls, friends etc. I never cared or let it affect me as i have always had android since the beginning. But to the ppl that it does affect thats dope tbh. Im sure more ppl will branch out now cause really the features that RCS brings makes the iphone to android gap that much smaller. This is a major win for android to say the least. What a time to be alive :)
yes
It's a major win for Apple as they were the only ones behind and most of the world who own smartphones own an android.
@@koolyokam007 most of the world doesn't use sms as their main communication platform though 😂😂 the rest of the wold doesn't care for green bubbles or iPhone vs Android when messaging because we all use whatsapp or wechat or whatever other thing
...I've read so many people online saying that they were teased or shunned for having green bubbles, but I've also never heard of that happening a single time IRL. Where is this happening? It's got to be a few specific major cities, I assume?
@@AdamFunk America 🇺🇸 all over
Thank you so much. I think finally i can give a try to iPhone ❤
Finally,I hate talking with someone that has an iPhone lol, eventho I have both, android personal, iPhone work
Awesome now we get to keep our favorite Android phones without having to switch to an iPhone just for a messaging app.
In the beta, you can toggle read receipts via the messages info page when you click on someone's profile picture.
This'll be really good for my mom, she has an iPhone and sends photos a lot
unfortunately I think it's imperative that Apple changes the color for RCS bubbles. the masses are probably not even going to think anything is different unless the biggest visual factor changes
Did I spot the Google Store in San Francisco 👀 I have been there once...quite a nice place. It's perfect to grab a cup of coffee from the Google Cafe and get work done on your laptop 😂
Can’t wait to have this working. Tesco mobile not doing it yet
I’m running iOS 18 dev beta and rcs wasn’t active last week on Verizon. I noticed it is now though when I texted someone with an android
this is probably not very surprising but I have been waiting for this day to happen for EONS
Too many people still don't comprehend that iMessage is NOT an app. It's a messaging protocol.
Messages is the app that iPhones use. Messages supports SMS, MMS, iMessage, and now RCS.
iMessage>RCS>SMS
It's absolutely an app. I bet my life savings ($50) that if the government told Apple you have 24 hours to release an app for the Android devices to use iMessage(messages) that they already have it developed in their vault right now.
@@B-RaDD No it's not. You're still confusing the app (Messages) with the messaging service (iMessage). If iMessage is an app, then that's all it would do on Apple devices: iMessage. But the app (Messages) can also send and receive SMS, MMS and now RCS messages because they are messaging services, just like iMessage.
According to your logic whatsapp and beeper is a messaging protoccol. No iMessage is an app with SMS, RCS, and appe's proprietary E2E messaging.
It is actually just an app that combines text messages (and now also using RCS) and Apple's own instant messaging service just like other apps do on Android. The only reason you believe it's not an app is that Apple does not allow third party apps to do the same which makes making it a "system app" while on Android Google Messages is the "equivalent" but there are also 3rd party ones.
The basic concept of both iOS and Android is based on Apps, even if it's an exclusive app that comes with the device and cannot be uninstalled. Apple continues to limit services to it's won system apps while Android never did but on the first Android versions the "system" apps were part of the system, like with iOS, with updates provided through the regular OS updates but that quickly change and even "system" apps are updated regularly through the regular play update system, even if the device itself does not get OS updates.
1st off. I don't care about bubble color. I don't want Ppl to see if I read their text. What I care about most is the high resolution file sharing. That's it.
Nobody cares about bubble colours but android nerds
@@Sofus-fu4rocomplete opposite
@@feetenthusiast1015 the only people complaining about bubbles are android users
@@Sofus-fu4ro wrong
@@feetenthusiast1015 you seem to care about it
I mean iMessage doesn’t have typing indicators nor read and deliver receipts for groupchats so it makes sense that’s it’s inconsistent on rcs groupchats
Doesn't make sense to not have those features.
@@jasonashley9853 You’re definitely right, was just saying that’s probably why they are not fully working on rcs since they are in a group chat with iPhone people
Reminder that this only happened thanks to pressure from regulatory bodies. When there's no profit incentive, major companies will never do things like this to improve the QOL for users
Interestingly, the RCS standard supports changing group chat icons just like iMessage, although it has never been implemented in Google messages. I'm very curious if this feature works between iPhone users in RCS group chats.
You must have an iPhone. We have always been able to change group names. Now with ios 18. Iphones can see the group name. You can get the beta if you would like to try it yourself.
That’s awesome ngl
Okay! You should try two iPhones and android in group chat.
So do both ends have to be on the 3 main carriers for RCS to work? Or does the iPhone have to be on the 3 big carriers for RCS to work?
I would think just the iphone because as long as the android user is using google messages then rcs will work on any android phone
thanks for this video. i can’t wait to switch back to android
why did you leave?
Me too! I was android for years and missed it when I switched to iPhone. Was never impressed with it.
**Tim Cook, enters the chat** 🤔
In Android, you can have any color you want for text. Yet, people think the iPhone is more advanced . 😂
Apple did this on purpose to convince the iPhone fanboys that they had a superior product.
iPhone users always think they are or have the best phones. So funny to say such a thing in 2024 and years to come 😂😂
Bro no one cares. Grow up.
@@Artistikk This is just a fun tech discussion about phones. So why do you have to get ugly? Just let people talk.
@@Artistikk Bro it's 2024 and beyond, your choice doesn't make your decision the best or right to everyone.😂😂
Nice! Can you do group chats with RCS on iPhone or is it limited to single users?
Yea you can do group chats and you can name them as well. Everyone will see the name. You can add and remove people from the chat as needed.
Can we change the green text though
Hope you all enjoyed!! What should we cover next?? 😁
On what features should already exist in pixel phones which are simple and basic in other Android skins..and what's up with pixie ai,? any info on that?
Will they ever add contact pictures in message thread
In RCS on Android to Android sending pictures and videos by pressing the plus icon and then files sends them completely uncompressed unilike when pressing the gallery button where some compression is applied. Could you check if thats also the case on Androis to iOS?
@@The_Butcher_of_Blaviken wow thanks for the pro tip👌
Also do you have a Samsung phone? The RCS settings in their Messages app allows you to send photos and videos at original quality. I wonder if the iPhone actually receives it as such
Apple needs to finally admit that they are the reason the txt bubble is green not android especially now since both phones support RCS
They know it and talked about it in the announcement
iMessage have the blue exclusivity as It’s more secure for Apple
They've admitted all these things, internal memos have come out. They do it in your face with Tim "buy your mum an iPhone" comments on a question from the press.
Apple don't care unless the EU or DOJ twist their arm enough.
They know the bulk of their users have A.S.S (Apple Stockholm Syndrome) and will cop whatever and enjoy it
This is absolutely idiotic.
The bubble for messages has always been green and it has nothing to do with Android.
this is a feature, you can know what phone is on the other side. 😅
Thanks for the comparison on what can and can't be done between Android and iPhone's RCS systems.
The only thing though... Are you able to remove people from Group Chats now? And also will Android be annoyed by Every ping of messages in a Group Chat? I forget the exact wording for it but I hope you get the gist of it.
Yes you are. You can add and remove people. You can change the name of the group.
Does Google Messages have Quick Messages??? A message that you can create yourself and save it and use it as a response or let someone know quickly?
this would require the carrier use google's jibe and not their own server. While TMO said they were going to switch to jibe doesn't seem to have fully happened so far as some report issues with RCS between android users at this point.
So happy this has been getting so much more attention. Ive been waiting for years telling my iphone friends the exoerience will get better while I fight off their insatiability for blue bubbles. It'll still be green, but it'll be better
My biggest problem is that texts dont always come through on both ends, leaving gaps in communication. Curious if anyone else is experiencing this and if this might be a fix
Switch platforms would mean getting an iPhone. I'll do that when hell freezes over.
what do you mean when you say "especially for Android users in the US?"
If RCS e2e encyption universal standard gets updated and they implement the edit, unsend, and direct reply features across platforms, we could finally put this silly topic to rest!
Does sending a voice note to iPhone work better now?
Yeah it works now . better videos pictures group messages as well
2:50 my wife has an iPhone and I have Samsung. I don't get read receipts on my phone because she has read receipts turned off.
5:47 I am on Google Messages beta and I CAN NOT unsend or edit text messages. It's a server issue and not available to everyone
For group chats, can you name groups and set group photos? Can you add/remove members without having to create a new thread like in MMS? And finally, if an Android user is removed and all remaining users are iOS, does the group chat switch back to using iMessage?
Yes you can. And yes it should just go back to blue. Since all other users are iphone people
I might be in the minority but I don't actually like typing indicators in group chats, and their absence is one of the things I like most about iMessage group chats as they are now. I hope there will be a feature to disable the typing indicator at least for RCS.
He succeeded :O
It is not bug that Apple device losing the RCS Messaging and going back to SMS. but it is a feature that needs to be developed.
Google Android device checks if the other (terminating) party is capable of RCS Messaging feature or not, before the originator sends the message as per design, whereas Apple being new to RCS Messaging needs to develop this feature.
🤣 Finally! Apple add RCS to iPhone users 👏 🙌
It's about time Apple catches up to the rest of the world
We didn’t ask for this android users and google asked for this. I could care less, you want iMessage features? Get an iphone simple
@@phire4694 no because android is better
@@phire4694 Android has all of that, except when texting iPhone users. Don't you think that maybe Apple making it worse for everyone is the problem?
@@phire4694so basically you think there should be a monopoly on texting features. That's so dumb. Apple has been the problem all along. We get "iMessage features"...it's called RCS and it works between Android phones.
Do a GoogleFi video, im interested, but it's hard to find information about the current experience
Do you know if voice messages will work from iphone to android?
Yes they will. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they currently do over MMS. Voice notes aren't really that big
I just wish that Apple would reach out to Google to implement E2EE between their two clients.
They say they want to add it to the standard, but I don't think that's ever going to happen as there are members in the GSMA that explicitly do not want it added to the standard.
That's why they say that encryption is the responsibility of the messaging clients, which is why Google implemented it the way they did.
And on my 15 pro max I tried texting my s24 ultra and pixel 8 pro, still doesn’t work in Australia
But even RCS on Android is nothing compared to iMessage on Apple products, there are so many features Apple has built app and it’s one of the reasons I keep my main sim in the iPhone
So yeah I can get all the Rcs features on Android on my iPhone theoretically once it comes out
But it’s still not going to compare to iMessage and I don’t see any of my iPhone friends switching to android
Do stickers work on rcs?
iOS user with Android friends here, I’ll keep using Signal to talk to them for the most part until RCS does end-to-end, so looking forward to iOS 20 or so.
They might do E2E in stable release
How safe is "RCS"? I had 2 new phones pre-installed RCS with a live person I didn't know, and the 2nd phone hacked before I could get set up!?
Any progress on using RCS with dual sim on Pixel phones?
This is what I would like to have, or see. 😊
That works for me. I have Samsung, and one of my daughters has Apple, which limits photos, etc, now.
@6:27 don't be surprised i am from India and all the android OEM do not use google message as default and RCS is not a Universal feature on android either.
Curious to understand the telecommunications laws there, quite possibly the reason
@@Spoonfed78everyone uses WhatsApp. Blue vs green is a north American thing
Yes!!!!!!🎉
They should at least make the green bubbles in iMessage have decent contrast for readability 😅 I know it's intentional, but pretty ironic given their push for accessibility
Can you add/remove people from group chats?
Yes you can. Also you can add the name to the group example. Family. Friends co workers.
Can you add and remove people in RCS groupchats?
Yes
Can you react to images in both places yet?
I can't wait for ios18. I hate have an iPhone for work because of the constant hate in group chat
Weird. My phone with Google Messagaes already reacts when someone hearts or whatever a message I send them.
Only the kids (of all ages) care about green or blue bubbles
Only in US, kids around the world dont care about green/blue bubbles because we are all on whatsapp 😂😂😂😂
Yeah only people in US use imessage. The rest of the world is on WhatsApp, telegram, line, wechat etc.
Here in the states.
A LOT of my generation (Gen Z) are picky because of that. They're always like "ew" in some way, shape, or form. Even people older than me (I was born in the early 2000s)
Life lesson: avoid those people at all costs if you want to live a good and/or better life.
@@LovecraftianGodsKiller🤝🏽
Really strange... everyone says RCS works over Wifi. I can't get txting to work over wifi. Delivery fails unless I enable cellular.
Yeah it's the beta version it'll all get fixed through time on September when the update is here happening on my phone as well
What do you mean by "direct replies"? Can't wait to see this!
I miss when I had imessage on my s23 ultra and when pixel 8 pro had it
No end to end encryption, can't edit or delete messages. I still prefer signal.
If I'm not mistaken, RCS uses the Signal protocol or at least the Google Messages app specifically uses the Signal protocol for E2EE.
In America no one uses signal or 3rd party apps to communicate
@@HollowSentence22They sometimes do.
I personally use discord when talking with my friends and use regular texting with family and family-friends.
I'm even a part of a family group chat consisting of my mom, her husband, her siblings, and her sibling's significant others.
@@HollowSentence22 Yeah, people use Discord commonly in the States but also WhatsApp in popular in major cities. It's not too popular with the pickleball crowd so it's more common in places with a lot of immigrants.
my android sends sms messages even RCS Connected show. Google needs to fix this ASAP
It's a small step up overtime things will get better and Apple will have to find other ways to convince their users
Apple introduced genmoji and it's gonna be intresting cross platform
I am jumping from 15 pro max to Z fold 6 because of them adding RCS.
whats the point of talking about high quality media without confirming the maximum file size? is it 10mb which might be from 2.4 or 100mb like 2.6? @5:57 it looks like iphone still cant interpret reactions properly
It's still beta, lots of bugs
@@HollowSentence22 what's the file size limit though
RCS will just make Texting between both platforms more easier but i don’t think people will stop using other messaging apps
Unfortunately, alot will just stick with sms. I have mine set to RCS though. I'm on an Android.
Now why would people wanna stick with old outdated worse experience sms? Makes no sense
I live in germany where this issue doesn't really exist because everyone has WhatsApp. But you know it's Meta... Personally I ditched WhatsApp and use Google Messages/RCS with my android friends and for the iPhone ones I use Signal and for a few Snapchat. But when the update is out I'm gonna chat with them on RCS and delete my Signal account
Voice & video call?
Well that's not your usual Fitbit 👀
1:54 RCS has been around for 15 years?
Wow I wish Apple would have implemented RCS into their OS earlier. I just graduated from college and for 4 years I was always the one ruining group chats with my friends. Better late than never though.
Google messages only or will it be supported on samsung messages with verizon?? 😩
I thought they discontinued Samsung Messages? Newer Samsung's ship with Google Messages on it but RCS should work?
Samsung messages still exists, its just not the default anymore. New phones have google messages preinstalled and set as the default. Samsung still uses its messages app for somw demonstrations during powerpoint presentations if you notice the theme details. @meroinheroin
@@Santaneria oh okay. Well I did use RCS with someone using Samsung Messages once so it still should work with iPhones
@meroinheroin it should but verizon has done some weird things with their network to limit rcs on all Samsung phones and now they're trying to promote THEIR own app which is now the only way for me to get RCS features other than Google messages
Too bad notification sounds don't work properly still.
Please keep me up to date with this. I really want to delete my Blue bubbles server 😭
Why not just keep it since you already have it?
That's so funny. I got tired of it after about a year or 2 and just made people use WhatsApp
@@B-RaDDmy family would never switch off iMessage
@@B-RaDD they gonna complain so much when I take it down😭
@@HollowSentence22 cuz it not as reliable as my regular texting app and I'm speaking form to much experience